Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]

[Kito]

relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other.

Wait what? Why not? If i flipped town you'd have no reason to scum read belzy just for that? What if belzy is actually scum pushing me?

What kind of logic is this?

Gth townread rescinded.

If you're looking for further reasoning you're not about to receive any

That's fine you can get this in exchange [VOTE: Kito] aubergine

Oh ok. Go think for 5 minutes and try again.

[Tangrowth]

I don't really find myself worried by Alison. She is building a view of the game that is generally compatible with mine, and that means she's either good to go (town), she's POEing her own team into hell (mafia), or she's exposing her own team with protective play for later phases (mafia; e.g. Bread Mafia).

What happened in Bread Mafia?

Alison was mafia and in the earliest portion of the game enjoyed a position of relative comfort. Her team was safely outside the POE, so she endorsed that POE through a couple of mischops. Eventually the tide turned against her, well enough in time for town to be fine, and through her mafia alignment it became easier to find her teammate (DkKoba) because of that protective outside-POE play. To be fair tutuu was still deep in that game, but it ended with a concession due to mechanics. The point is that even when she was comfortable as mafia, it ended badly.

Got it, thank you!

[Kito]

Speaking of votes idk what to do with mine now, might just dump it on bunny

[Guillotine]

relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other.

Wait what? Why not? If i flipped town you'd have no reason to scum read belzy just for that? What if belzy is actually scum pushing me?

What kind of logic is this?

Gth townread rescinded.

Episode #573 of guillo doesn't actually read the posts he replies to

It looks like you are the one who cant read, now i've been scum reading you and pushing you heck! Even deathtunneling you and you didnt react but now you have the time to instigate a fight between me and Kito? If i was a day vig i would shoot you right now.

[Tangrowth]

Speaking of votes idk what to do with mine now, might just dump it on bunny

Maybe I'll move there with you even if I still support the LM vote as well.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Speaking of votes idk what to do with mine now, might just dump it on bunny

You suggested earlier that you thought the lost monkey votes seemed unfounded. Okay, whatever.

It'd be cool if you could look at lost monkey yourself and share your perspective.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I have no reason to call bad bunny town or to oppose that wagon. There are many worse options.

[Guillotine]

oh also potential scum distancing between belzy and guillo. you heard it here first lads

Why do you think that?

Cuz Belzy always distances from her scum buddies, like hardcore tunnelling and voting them from D1 distancing.

Guillo pulled an OMGUS vote out of his ass in response, and came up with reasons for it despite town reading her immediately before.

Then guillo stopped talking about it and they're still voting each other. Kinda like they went, ok cool, my job here is done, distancing secured, peace out. This relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other

You know what? Dont read me based off Belzy's behavior please.

[nutella]

relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other.

Wait what? Why not? If i flipped town you'd have no reason to scum read belzy just for that? What if belzy is actually scum pushing me?

What kind of logic is this?

Gth townread rescinded.

Episode #573 of guillo doesn't actually read the posts he replies to

It looks like you are the one who cant read, now i've been scum reading you and pushing you heck! Even deathtunneling you and you didnt react but now you have the time to instigate a fight between me and Kito? If i was a day vig i would shoot you right now.

amazing post hit the showers

[Kito]

Speaking of votes idk what to do with mine now, might just dump it on bunny

You suggested earlier that you thought the lost monkey votes seemed unfounded. Okay, whatever.

It'd be cool if you could look at lost monkey yourself and share your perspective.

Yeah but turns out we share some other reads so maybe voting you aint the one.

I never expect much from lomo D1, the only one of your points I liked was the one about pulling out a random iso post, it did read like that. The rest I thought were reaches.

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

hit the showers

please use this expression more often

[Guillotine]

relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other.

Wait what? Why not? If i flipped town you'd have no reason to scum read belzy just for that? What if belzy is actually scum pushing me?

What kind of logic is this?

Gth townread rescinded.

Episode #573 of guillo doesn't actually read the posts he replies to

It looks like you are the one who cant read, now i've been scum reading you and pushing you heck! Even deathtunneling you and you didnt react but now you have the time to instigate a fight between me and Kito? If i was a day vig i would shoot you right now.

amazing post hit the showers

No. I lost my cool, i cant help it, i got latin blood and it is hot as a hell.

I wish for a day vig shot

[Kito]

relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other.

Wait what? Why not? If i flipped town you'd have no reason to scum read belzy just for that? What if belzy is actually scum pushing me?

What kind of logic is this?

Gth townread rescinded.

Episode #573 of guillo doesn't actually read the posts he replies to

It looks like you are the one who cant read, now i've been scum reading you and pushing you heck! Even deathtunneling you and you didnt react but now you have the time to instigate a fight between me and Kito? If i was a day vig i would shoot you right now.

Instigating?? Lol no one's doing that apart from me

[Guillotine]

relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other.

Wait what? Why not? If i flipped town you'd have no reason to scum read belzy just for that? What if belzy is actually scum pushing me?

What kind of logic is this?

Gth townread rescinded.

Episode #573 of guillo doesn't actually read the posts he replies to

It looks like you are the one who cant read, now i've been scum reading you and pushing you heck! Even deathtunneling you and you didnt react but now you have the time to instigate a fight between me and Kito? If i was a day vig i would shoot you right now.

Instigating?? Lol no one's doing that apart from me

No, she is doing it. Like she's been avoiding me all damn game and the first time she addresses me is to throw shade on me.

Wait? Are you defending her?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[nutella]

I.... What

You were one of my first townreads

You're just continuing to read into things that arent there and it bothers me but prob best to drop it

[Kito]

relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other.

Wait what? Why not? If i flipped town you'd have no reason to scum read belzy just for that? What if belzy is actually scum pushing me?

What kind of logic is this?

Gth townread rescinded.

Episode #573 of guillo doesn't actually read the posts he replies to

It looks like you are the one who cant read, now i've been scum reading you and pushing you heck! Even deathtunneling you and you didnt react but now you have the time to instigate a fight between me and Kito? If i was a day vig i would shoot you right now.

Instigating?? Lol no one's doing that apart from me

No, she is doing it. Like she's been avoiding me all damn game and the first time she addresses me is to throw shade on me.

Wait? Are you defending her?

No, and you implying she's instigating a fight between us is blatantly incorrect

you should be asking her if she's defending me

[Guillotine]

I.... What

You were one of my first townreads

You're just continuing to read into things that arent there and it bothers me but prob best to drop it

Probably because you know i'm town, don't you?

Dont tell me that im reading things that are not there, Kito is doing pre-flips associations when they never work. I've seen how effective Kito can be as town and i dont believe for a moment that he believes that if one of us (belzy/me) is town then it must mean the other is town as well. Bullshit!

Im sorry but i cant believe Kito believes in that statement, if he does, im disappointed.

[Guillotine]

relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other.

Wait what? Why not? If i flipped town you'd have no reason to scum read belzy just for that? What if belzy is actually scum pushing me?

What kind of logic is this?

Gth townread rescinded.

Episode #573 of guillo doesn't actually read the posts he replies to

It looks like you are the one who cant read, now i've been scum reading you and pushing you heck! Even deathtunneling you and you didnt react but now you have the time to instigate a fight between me and Kito? If i was a day vig i would shoot you right now.

Instigating?? Lol no one's doing that apart from me

No, she is doing it. Like she's been avoiding me all damn game and the first time she addresses me is to throw shade on me.

Wait? Are you defending her?

No, and you implying she's instigating a fight between us is blatantly incorrect

you should be asking her if she's defending me

I will, are you defending her though?

[nutella]

Yeah that's not what he said lol

[nutella]

He said if one of you flips town he doesnt have particular reason to scumread the other because he was only talking about an associative read and otherwise had null reads on you

Thought that was pretty clear but you just seem to enjoy twisting things

[nutella]

Anything else I need to translate

[Tangrowth]

Signing off for the night, I’m fading fast, have a wonderful evening friends!

[nutella]

Meh talk to me about belzy i dont have a good handle there

[Kito]

He said if one of you flips town he doesnt have particular reason to scumread the other because he was only talking about an associative read and otherwise had null reads on you

Thought that was pretty clear but you just seem to enjoy twisting things

dude nice

(this is correct)

[Guillotine]

oh also potential scum distancing between belzy and guillo. you heard it here first lads

Why do you think that?

Cuz Belzy always distances from her scum buddies, like hardcore tunnelling and voting them from D1 distancing.

Guillo pulled an OMGUS vote out of his ass in response, and came up with reasons for it despite town reading her immediately before.

Then guillo stopped talking about it and they're still voting each other. Kinda like they went, ok cool, my job here is done, distancing secured, peace out. This relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other

I read it again. Explain it to me like im a five years old (apparently i am)

[Kito]

I.... What

You were one of my first townreads

You're just continuing to read into things that arent there and it bothers me but prob best to drop it

Probably because you know i'm town, don't you?

Dont tell me that im reading things that are not there, Kito is doing pre-flips associations when they never work. I've seen how effective Kito can be as town and i dont believe for a moment that he believes that if one of us (belzy/me) is town then it must mean the other is town as well. Bullshit!

Im sorry but i cant believe Kito believes in that statement, if he does, im disappointed.

How many games have we played together? 2? Including one where you were scum and swept? I dunno what your expectation is of town!me but it seems absurdly high. I'm gonna be throwing out crack theories for like 3 days before I do anything game changing.

[Sloonei]

I have a lingering suspicion of Alison, but she has tossed around more easy town reads than I would expect her to if she was mafia. Some of her content has felt a bit flat to me.

flat?? what's the bar here? her posts have been beefier than most people's posts put together

i’ll explain in more detail later.

[Guillotine]

I.... What

You were one of my first townreads

You're just continuing to read into things that arent there and it bothers me but prob best to drop it

Probably because you know i'm town, don't you?

Dont tell me that im reading things that are not there, Kito is doing pre-flips associations when they never work. I've seen how effective Kito can be as town and i dont believe for a moment that he believes that if one of us (belzy/me) is town then it must mean the other is town as well. Bullshit!

Im sorry but i cant believe Kito believes in that statement, if he does, im disappointed.

How many games have we played together? 2? Including one where you were scum and swept? I dunno what your expectation is of town!me but it seems absurdly high. I'm gonna be throwing out crack theories for like 3 days before I do anything game changing.

We played two, i hosted one and i spectated another one.

I made sure to voice how highly i thought of your play, do yes, my expectations from you ate high.

[nutella]

I was about to form a preflip associative read but then I saw sloonei was here so i preemptively bonked myself

[Kito]

oh also potential scum distancing between belzy and guillo. you heard it here first lads

Why do you think that?

Cuz Belzy always distances from her scum buddies, like hardcore tunnelling and voting them from D1 distancing.

Guillo pulled an OMGUS vote out of his ass in response, and came up with reasons for it despite town reading her immediately before.

Then guillo stopped talking about it and they're still voting each other. Kinda like they went, ok cool, my job here is done, distancing secured, peace out. This relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other

I read it again. Explain it to me like im a five years old (apparently i am)

It's an associative read like nutella said, yeah she could be scum pushing town!you but I have no reason to lean either way, except that I know scum!belzy behaviour and your response was pretty weak/manufactured. therefore if one of you is town you can't be distancing scum and i'm back to square zero

[Kito]

I.... What

You were one of my first townreads

You're just continuing to read into things that arent there and it bothers me but prob best to drop it

Probably because you know i'm town, don't you?

Dont tell me that im reading things that are not there, Kito is doing pre-flips associations when they never work. I've seen how effective Kito can be as town and i dont believe for a moment that he believes that if one of us (belzy/me) is town then it must mean the other is town as well. Bullshit!

Im sorry but i cant believe Kito believes in that statement, if he does, im disappointed.

How many games have we played together? 2? Including one where you were scum and swept? I dunno what your expectation is of town!me but it seems absurdly high. I'm gonna be throwing out crack theories for like 3 days before I do anything game changing.

We played two, i hosted one and i spectated another one.

I made sure to voice how highly i thought of your play, do yes, my expectations from you ate high.

Was it the most recent game? Because if so my play was pretty shocking up until LYLO.

[Guillotine]

oh also potential scum distancing between belzy and guillo. you heard it here first lads

Why do you think that?

Cuz Belzy always distances from her scum buddies, like hardcore tunnelling and voting them from D1 distancing.

Guillo pulled an OMGUS vote out of his ass in response, and came up with reasons for it despite town reading her immediately before.

Then guillo stopped talking about it and they're still voting each other. Kinda like they went, ok cool, my job here is done, distancing secured, peace out. This relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other

I read it again. Explain it to me like im a five years old (apparently i am)

It's an associative read like nutella said, yeah she could be scum pushing town!you but I have no reason to lean either way, except that I know scum!belzy behaviour and your response was pretty weak/manufactured. therefore if one of you is town you can't be distancing scum and i'm back to square zero

Why did you perceive my response as manufactured? (It was not)

[Sonny]

Funny thing, when I woke up one of my first thoughts was I bet LoMo would be leading the votes and lol, here it is, should be fun to catch up. 2 is meh, but it tickles me that I saw that one coming.

do you have a read there?

Nope, was just a premonition. It says nothing about his alignment, just that he has this weird power that involves being able to attract votes without people even really saying he's scum, happens with those who know him as well. Strange super power.

You mean he tends to be scummy town? Hrmm.

Personally I don't think so but he seems to gather votes without a clear "you're scummy" read imo, they creep on and he doesn't really do much to stop it. If wording/phrasing is part of why people find him shady than it's NAI. Haven't gotten to why he was voted yet.

[Sonny]

GTH swipes, sorta (call the left swipes POE more than "mafia reads")

Spoiler: show

Best Reads List Ever! Props for effort.

Definitely still have an unwavering Syndicate bias though. So if you're town, then best yeet would be Made in this scenario. Why are they scummy to you?

[Kito]

oh also potential scum distancing between belzy and guillo. you heard it here first lads

Why do you think that?

Cuz Belzy always distances from her scum buddies, like hardcore tunnelling and voting them from D1 distancing.

Guillo pulled an OMGUS vote out of his ass in response, and came up with reasons for it despite town reading her immediately before.

Then guillo stopped talking about it and they're still voting each other. Kinda like they went, ok cool, my job here is done, distancing secured, peace out. This relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other

I read it again. Explain it to me like im a five years old (apparently i am)

It's an associative read like nutella said, yeah she could be scum pushing town!you but I have no reason to lean either way, except that I know scum!belzy behaviour and your response was pretty weak/manufactured. therefore if one of you is town you can't be distancing scum and i'm back to square zero

Why did you perceive my response as manufactured? (It was not)

You town read belzy before she voted you, you even made a point of stating you were rescinding your town read. Then you managed to immediately engage in a back and forth and had little issue calling her scummy.

That's an incredibly quick turnaround, and you've just done the same thing to me. So do you usually OMGUS this hard as town?

If so... why?

[Guillotine]

oh also potential scum distancing between belzy and guillo. you heard it here first lads

Why do you think that?

Cuz Belzy always distances from her scum buddies, like hardcore tunnelling and voting them from D1 distancing.

Guillo pulled an OMGUS vote out of his ass in response, and came up with reasons for it despite town reading her immediately before.

Then guillo stopped talking about it and they're still voting each other. Kinda like they went, ok cool, my job here is done, distancing secured, peace out. This relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other

I read it again. Explain it to me like im a five years old (apparently i am)

It's an associative read like nutella said, yeah she could be scum pushing town!you but I have no reason to lean either way, except that I know scum!belzy behaviour and your response was pretty weak/manufactured. therefore if one of you is town you can't be distancing scum and i'm back to square zero

Why did you perceive my response as manufactured? (It was not)

You town read belzy before she voted you, you even made a point of stating you were rescinding your town read. Then you managed to immediately engage in a back and forth and had little issue calling her scummy.

That's an incredibly quick turnaround, and you've just done the same thing to me. So do you usually OMGUS this hard as town?

If so... why?

Because we are distancing.

[Kito]

Why do you think that?

Cuz Belzy always distances from her scum buddies, like hardcore tunnelling and voting them from D1 distancing.

Guillo pulled an OMGUS vote out of his ass in response, and came up with reasons for it despite town reading her immediately before.

Then guillo stopped talking about it and they're still voting each other. Kinda like they went, ok cool, my job here is done, distancing secured, peace out. This relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other

I read it again. Explain it to me like im a five years old (apparently i am)

It's an associative read like nutella said, yeah she could be scum pushing town!you but I have no reason to lean either way, except that I know scum!belzy behaviour and your response was pretty weak/manufactured. therefore if one of you is town you can't be distancing scum and i'm back to square zero

Why did you perceive my response as manufactured? (It was not)

You town read belzy before she voted you, you even made a point of stating you were rescinding your town read. Then you managed to immediately engage in a back and forth and had little issue calling her scummy.

That's an incredibly quick turnaround, and you've just done the same thing to me. So do you usually OMGUS this hard as town?

If so... why?

Because we are distancing.

lmao just say you're not going to change your mind and save my time

[Guillotine]

Lets make one thing clear.

No townread is permanent, i could be townreading you but if you do something that triggers a suspicion i will easily take you to my scum pile and yeet you.
Why? Because i can and im allowed

[Kito]

Work should be quiet tomorrow so I'll probably have time to catch up and drop an informed vote.

Might take the time to explain it, likely won't.

peace!

[Guillotine]

Now im gonna take a metaphorical cold shower

[Sonny]

General question for our Percy friends, or for those to whom it applies:

hello everyone! I'm so nervous but also very excited to make lots of new friends!!

A few of you have either voiced direct suspicion of Dana for this post or suggested that you would have or could have done so in the ensuing dialogue relating to Act and Guillotine.

Why? What about this Dana post is worrisome, or could be worrisome? I ask this to develop my ability to interpret everyone involved, perhaps even Dana herself. My first instinct is that not everyone voicing a sentiment like this is being honest, but determining who is not going to be easy if the conversation continues to exist on this vague plane of woulds/coulds/nulls. Help an angry bear out.

It's jarring wording to me and I've no issue with Act jumping on it, had she not I would have myself to see where it led. After that it becomes WIFOM, should town be nervous, probably not. Would scum say they were nervous, probably not, but could someone be scum and honest about how they feel, could do, depends on the player. The fact none of the locals seemed bothered by it despite the conversation dwelling there for some time makes it more meh.

[Guillotine]

First date icebreaker question for everyone: what’s your favorite trip you’ve ever been on?

Disney World/Disney Cruises. And you?

Follow up, why did you choose to ask this particular question?

Hi!

To the PerC people and/or anyone else who wants to answer:

1) what do you think you bring to a game when you're town?
2) what do you hope to accomplish this game?

1. My town reads.
2. Win with town.

Wait what? What do you mean with WIN WITH TOWN, that sounds like a third party wincon.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

@Alison So my comment about nutella's first post feels similar to the interesting tell. "Upgaymers" feels like a filler word. In a previous game on here I picked out Sloonei saying "spicy", which apparently people on here and MU both use. I'm trying to keep an open mind that it could very well be a community clash. But at the same time, it feels like it is something that wouldn't necessarily be said. I don't know if it could be too scummy to be scum or if the context of it is just this site players that commonly use words I'm not use to, which typing them feels of note, as it is uncommon for me to see it in game. But for me, it feels off. It's not directly aligned with a specific tell though.

[Alison]

Not impressed with this Kito narrative about Belzy and Guillo distancing.

@Tangrowth Why is nutella off limits for today? What has she done to earn that protection?

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

I skimmed some of thread while at work, but I can't tell if you are only posting in pictures for the beginning or if you are like quirked this way

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Did you guys know that the number three most important factor in a healthy relationship is using your two ears twice as much as your one mouth

[Guillotine]

I skimmed some of thread while at work, but I can't tell if you are only posting in pictures for the beginning or if you are like quirked this way

I intended to post only in pictures but then i realized i cant afford all that work.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also petition to keep kito even after the game is over