The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:59 pm It did cross my mind that anne's woe-is-me posts about not enjoying the game could be a wifomy "wolf wouldn't openly say this" gambit, she did lean into it slightly overmuch i thought

i have a similar concern about anne. i actually got some townpings from her when she was explaining her reasoning for scumreading me earlier in the day, but i think that her being demotivated and fed up with the game is >rand likely to come from her as a wolf. i dont think i feel comfortable making a scumread on that basis, though

personally i would give dizzy another day or two to see if he towntells

the notanaxehole wagon is whatever. i think that he could be a wolf solely through POE but i dont think anyone in this game has actually stated a reason to wolfread him - it feels like the definition of a shrug chop

my vote will probably land in drwilgy/mac/master radishes/and MAYBE NAA but im not really crazy about any of the wagons right now

actually, i guess ill be the change i want to see in the world

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

wasting one of my posts just to flex on the people who have already hit postcap

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:45 pm my vote will probably land in drwilgy/mac/master radishes/and MAYBE NAA but im not really crazy about any of the wagons right now

PLAYER SALAD! Right here, smacking me in the face in Philosophy Mafia Two: Electric Boogaloo.

sure what the hell

[VOTE: master radishes] aubergine

idk what people have against salad, i think it can be pretty good if u use the right dressing

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:45 pm my vote will probably land in drwilgy/mac/master radishes/and MAYBE NAA but im not really crazy about any of the wagons right now

Delicious.

Why is Nanook town

My view of NAA is quite ambivalent. There are little kernels of the town game I saw in Fleabag, e.g. the partially-troll-partially-cooperative treatment of me and my C L O U T. It’s a small point. I don’t know what he thinks of the game.

Voting NAA is basically a policy yeet for me, since regardless of alignment NAA should never be allowed to end game.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:50 pm Voting NAA is basically a policy yeet for me, since regardless of alignment NAA should never be allowed to end game.

I can't come up with a different scumread otherwise. If I did I would be voting them.

I have a thought about the MR post SPF highlighted. Before I share I would prefer he answer for himself so I will give it a bit

Oh jeez. There are numerous family people here. Expect my presence to be sporadic.

Dear SPF,

Please refer to my opening post in this game.

Best,

Radishes

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:46 pm Why is Nanook town

Perhaps a more productive way to frame this question:

What’s the fundamental difference with respect to interpreting alignment between Nanook and NAA in this Day 1?

Okay then.

Regarding the MR post SPF highlighted: shrug. I don’t struggle to see the latter paragraph as a token qualifier to encourage an active-listening dialogue. “That said, you could be right blah blah” is kind of a staple of my own play even if sometimes it’s perhaps redundant or otherwise not necessary. It’s a courtesy at least when I do it. MR can expand on his own.

The mechanical dynamics of the post may be questionable with a certain degree of nitpick. But you could be right.

The best reason to town read Dizzy is that he is absolutely nothing like he was quite recently when he and falcon ran over Fleabag as mafia.

That’s not worth a ton when the product in the thread is still content-limited. It could be worth “more than nothing” though. He isn’t putting on a show.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:27 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:26 pm Town:
Marmot
Nutella
Leetic

I can solve the game without reading 90 % of it. You're all n00bs. Except Radish, he's a flame thrower, and pretty hot tbh

Plus Nanook

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:55 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:40 pm Gas Station Thought of the Day:

Without looking, can anyone in the chat remember a read Nanook has put in this thread other than “Jay bad”?

No, but I know that his vote sucks.

But all of my votes sucks too, so it's only fair

Tell Me More® about your view of Nanook please and thank you

Disadvantage of saving posts: if numerous others capped then the thread is dead

Current Dizzy wagon is pretty ugly

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Response to SPF is pretty fart

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:14 pm The best reason to town read Dizzy is that he is absolutely nothing like he was quite recently when he and falcon ran over Fleabag as mafia.

That’s not worth a ton when the product in the thread is still content-limited. It could be worth “more than nothing” though. He isn’t putting on a show.

It's closer to Baby Mafia than Fleabag but it's a rough comparison.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:04 pm Dear SPF,

Please refer to my opening post in this game.

Best,

Radishes

Dear Master Radishes,

I took a look at your opening post, but it has raised more questions than answers:

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:51 am i am mafia uwu

Please advise for the next steps.

Best regards,

Staypositivefriend

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:05 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:46 pm Why is Nanook town

Perhaps a more productive way to frame this question:

What’s the fundamental difference with respect to interpreting alignment between Nanook and NAA in this Day 1?

the best answer i can give without going back to nanook's ISO is simply: "tone/motivation" - it felt like nanook had a drive to push his reads forward when he was posting earlier in the day, whereas it seems like NAA has lost that drive, even if i don't think that necessarily reflects on his alignment

i'm open to considering both NAA and nanook as wolves, but i suppose i'm looking for a reason to be suspicious of them that isn't simply: "they aren't towny", and i don't feel like anyone has provided that type of reasoning yet

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:50 pm Voting NAA is basically a policy yeet for me, since regardless of alignment NAA should never be allowed to end game.

LC town.

Don’t know if that is “consensus”

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:54 pm To be real though, I'm enjoying this game. I haven't played much mafia lately, as my life is not really rigged for it time/energy wise. I'm don't feel like getting into this game right now. Maybe because I've lost my taste for D1 or maybe just cause. I may or may not read the game later this day phase. There's a lot of great players in this game. I don't want to bring my team down by not participating much right now, but still, it is what it is kind of. I don't feel like trying to agree with myself about what I really think with no knowns. I know there will be [things happening] because you all are pros. I'm not trying to abandon my responsibility of signing up for a game, I'm just taking it slow, and I hope that's ok.

Like this post is where I'd relate to the Dizzy that was playing in Baby Mafia when Alison was grilling her.

jagged, if you have a post to spare, i would find it helpful if you gave a quick view of how you're looking at the game and what your immediate POE currently looks like. one thing about your play in this game that seems distinct from the other games i've played with you is that you seem to be making less posts that consider things from a holistic/"POE" perspective, and i'm curious about your broader view of the game

Have very few posts left until 1h before EoD, so here's a couple things I'd like to say

It would probably be a good idea to use an investigative ability on Mac and if he survives a few days he may be worth looking at, but for now there are better targets. I still am not a huge fan of Mac's progression, I can understand why he was hesitant to townread us due to his role but it doesn't explain the others such as the odd push on Cass. Still, I think mafia Mac would be more likely to check Falcon early, and could have easily justified it as resolving an inactive slot or whatever.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:08 am Dizzy was voting Mac literally moments before I told him to get his vote off. Telling Dizzy to get his vote off was also a general reprimand for anyone with a vote on Mac. A player doesn't have to have a vote on someone to be eager to lynch them, they're not mutually exclusive.



You calling Mac scummy but not voting for him is scummy btw.



You play the game your way, I'll play it mine.






OHHHHHHHHH yeah, if you think clearing my slot when I'm not participating all that much was a sub-optimal move by Mac, then you don't know much about my scum game.

Not impressed with this post. Falcon, you're being treated as confirmed town and it's important for confirmed town to be vocal and bold. Obviously not advocating a vote for this slot but if we want to win it's important that you step up your game.

Despite not really seeing anything towny in Dyslexicon's ISO I really don't like their wagon so I will avoid that for now

Axehole has been disruptive and has been acting anti-town but apparently that's typical of them so I don't know what to think. Would not mind that slot going bye-bye.

Wilgy has been scummy, I don't like how his first move was to randomly townread a vocal player which is a scum thing to do, and none of their reads are impressive. Currently my preferred option.

MR has also been uninspiring, it feels they are not doing any work but still trying to maintain a thread presence regardless. Wouldn't mind them being voted out either.

Sloonei is mixed, I can believe he's not caught up based on posts (while he would know more if he was in wolfchat) and he hasn't been criticizing players for being active, which is a common tell for inactive scum. However, the way he immediately townread Marmot for his post while doing the same to no one else is a little sketchy. Not the biggest fan of his MR interaction either. Would not vote for now as I'd like to see him more active but I'd like him to participate more now.

Aside from the previous reasons to townread Marmot, there's also this:

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:44 am falcon posted in the game, I am mildly surprised he wouldn't log into a neighborhood chat he received, especially if he was town (or really either alignment)

Due to my role I happen to know BTSC is over Discord, and the wording suggests Marmot doesn't know that, which he would if he was a wolf (although I'm not sure how he would word it if it was the case). Although this isn't a 100% derpclear I think it does add another piece of evidence to townread him.

Anne still doesn't promote any strong feelings in me one way or another. As Nanook has not posted again due to hitting his cap my read on him is the same as before. Everyone else I didn't mention is a townread to varying extents.

I believe I should have three posts left between me and my partner (assuming he didn't post while I was writing this) so this may be my last post before EoD. See ya then, I guess. For now, my vote's still on Wilgy.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:39 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:27 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:26 pm Town:
Marmot
Nutella
Leetic

I can solve the game without reading 90 % of it. You're all n00bs. Except Radish, he's a flame thrower, and pretty hot tbh

Plus Nanook

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:55 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:40 pm Gas Station Thought of the Day:

Without looking, can anyone in the chat remember a read Nanook has put in this thread other than “Jay bad”?

No, but I know that his vote sucks.

But all of my votes sucks too, so it's only fair

Tell Me More® about your view of Nanook please and thank you

No. I haven’t read his posts. I think Marmot said he had reads and was town. I have no real opinion

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:02 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:50 pm Voting NAA is basically a policy yeet for me, since regardless of alignment NAA should never be allowed to end game.

LC town.

Don’t know if that is “consensus”

why is LC towny for that post?

@nutella - any particular reason why your presence has been so low today? not an accusation per se, but i feel like you usually have more to say/have more thoughts that swing back and forth, whereas your play today has felt pretty subdued

it's the day before thanksgiving. i assume that's the holiest day of the year on nutella's calendar.

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Wagon looks interesting and I agree with JJJ the response to SPF wasn't good.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:50 pm [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Response to SPF is pretty fart

There's nothing much I feel the need to say to her or to anyone. SPF's was a fairly lazy but understandable reaction to my posts. People who high post and give 'effort' don't tend to like people who hang around not keeping up with them, and all it takes is a little thing to nitpick (such as my 'shrug' at the Mac thing) to become 'PoE because why not'. This is particularly true in a gamestate with quality players doing quality things - it's hard to find good wolves on D1 and easy to go after the leftovers of the lobby.

I've given a few passing thoughts on things I had passing thoughts on, but I will not be making any effort to do more, particularly not in D1. I stand by my initial bold declaration - I will not be a miselim this game.

It's always interesting to note *when* the 'MR is uninspiring' narrative first picks up. I'm not actually sure I've noticed a particular pattern to it - sometimes it's mid round, sometimes it's later, sometimes it's not until D2.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:03 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:02 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:50 pm Voting NAA is basically a policy yeet for me, since regardless of alignment NAA should never be allowed to end game.

LC town.

Don’t know if that is “consensus”

why is LC towny for that post?

I don’t think he writes that as mafia. But I don’t want to discuss it further tbh. What’s your read on LC? You know him better

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:07 pm @nutella - any particular reason why your presence has been so low today? not an accusation per se, but i feel like you usually have more to say/have more thoughts that swing back and forth, whereas your play today has felt pretty subdued

Been doing rl stuff, checking thread fairly regularly but don't have a ton to add

Ugh I don't feel great about the mr vote either

Let's just hold hands and vote sleep

I’m going to bed.

Prediction is that NAA and is town and most of the if not all people on the wagon are also town.

Good luck.

If I was to vote, I’d vote Mac tbh. Or Sloonei, but that’s unfair and definitely based on nothing

@nutella

What is your worldview for this game?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:22 pm @nutella

What is your worldview for this game?

Everyone is villagery lol

See this is why I chose someone 'off the board' a bit. If I don't have any good leads then may as well play darts with a middle-presence slot.

I will pop in to say that the one thing I do not like about this game is how hedgy everyone is. This even applies to some of my townreads. Voting "sleep" or whatever should not even be in consideration.

Why can't people be hedgey? It's D1 and the wolves aren't obvious.