BEANS MAFIA - Day 6

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Wow. I didn't expect it to be rescinded, but having the check out there might have had some benefit. Abi and leetic are both town almost for sure.

So are you <3 thanks for green flipping yourself

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I tell you, Abigail. You are very very lucky that you did not out any town PRs

No town PR is CCing me lol

If one did it would have been very very bad. There's a reason why fake cop claims like this are considered gamethrowing behavior

They aren't anywhere I've ever played considered game throwing

Town isn't stupid they aren't gonna CC especially since cop isn't in this set up lol

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I tell you, Abigail. You are very very lucky that you did not out any town PRs

No town PR is CCing me lol

Also I claimed cop specifically cause it purely never exists here

It's not just a cop; Mikey's play in the game I mentioned was bad because it outed a town roleblocker. Just don't do it again

Don't tell me how to play mafia. Kthx.

I will do it again and I do not care.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

OKAY WITH THAT IN MIND can people go revisit Long Con's reaction to the Leetic check with the knowledge that Abi was fpsing & Leetic prolly town?

I feel like I'm losing it but there's something there

No your right

It's like actually probably just LC/Roxy/Jack or Pyxxy tbh

Do you think LC/Jack stacked on v!pyxxy with v/v wagons as is?

Generally speaking I wouldn't think that but I'm opening my mind too new possibilities after me and my entire wolf team stacked multiple days in a row

I'm never recovering from the reunion game d1 vc

But I'd like to hope this would be a little different

Teehee

[leetic]

I tell you, Abigail. You are very very lucky that you did not out any town PRs

No town PR is CCing me lol

If one did it would have been very very bad. There's a reason why fake cop claims like this are considered gamethrowing behavior

They aren't anywhere I've ever played considered game throwing

Town isn't stupid they aren't gonna CC especially since cop isn't in this set up lol

1. How do you know there is no cop in this setup?
2. How do you know they won't CC when town does stupid things all the time (case in point)?
3. How do you know there's no roleblocker, redirector, etc. whose actions could contradict your claim?

Just because it happened that the setup was such that this wasn't a disaster doesn't mean it couldn't have been. Don't do it again.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Everywhere I've ever played people fake all the time lol

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I have given town plenty of time to see the rescind and move off

[Thunal33]

I'm going to reread the play around the d2 check before I come back, but I'm looking for people who tried to look good off leetic's town flip. The people who put a lot of thought into tunneling him are probably town.

[leetic]

I tell you, Abigail. You are very very lucky that you did not out any town PRs

No town PR is CCing me lol

Also I claimed cop specifically cause it purely never exists here

It's not just a cop; Mikey's play in the game I mentioned was bad because it outed a town roleblocker. Just don't do it again

Don't tell me how to play mafia. Kthx.

I will do it again and I do not care.

Then you will throw a game at some point. That's just that.

[Thunal33]

I wish leetic were mafia lol. Having that many posts and calling out people so often would have been great spew.

[leetic]

Everywhere I've ever played people fake all the time lol

There are times when you can fake it role madness but doing it in a setup with limited PRs is a very bad idea because if they get outed it's very very bad

Like this is not even a point that is up for debate

[S~V~S]

Everywhere I've ever played people fake all the time lol

There are times when you can fake it role madness but doing it in a setup with limited PRs is a very bad idea because if they get outed it's very very bad

Like this is not even a point that is up for debate

We understand your pov.

Continuing to argue it benefits no one. K thx bai.

[leetic]

Everywhere I've ever played people fake all the time lol

There are times when you can fake it role madness but doing it in a setup with limited PRs is a very bad idea because if they get outed it's very very bad

Like this is not even a point that is up for debate

We understand your pov.

Continuing to argue it benefits no one. K thx bai.

They put me through all that BS for nothing, I get to be pissed off here

Although I definitely should calm down

[S~V~S]

Can someone tl;dr the Long Con case for me?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I tell you, Abigail. You are very very lucky that you did not out any town PRs

No town PR is CCing me lol

If one did it would have been very very bad. There's a reason why fake cop claims like this are considered gamethrowing behavior

They aren't anywhere I've ever played considered game throwing

Town isn't stupid they aren't gonna CC especially since cop isn't in this set up lol

1. How do you know there is no cop in this setup?
2. How do you know they won't CC when town does stupid things all the time (case in point)?
3. How do you know there's no roleblocker, redirector, etc. whose actions could contradict your claim?

Just because it happened that the setup was such that this wasn't a disaster doesn't mean it couldn't have been. Don't do it again.

1. Intelligence and general balance

2. Intelligence and no town CCs that check before EoD

3. Intelligence because a redirection is not in this set up and a town RBer didn't RB me or you lol

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm gonna go spend time with my girlfriend she's upset and more important than you guys

The game is ez 5 people are sorted off this claim

Stop acting like it's a throw and solve the rest

Byeeee

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

When I have no info and I'm not about to reread 18 pages this is an easy and low risk way to obtain info

I do not regret it

I never will

Bbl

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm going to reread the play around the d2 check before I come back, but I'm looking for people who tried to look good off leetic's town flip. The people who put a lot of thought into tunneling him are probably town.

Correct

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I tell you, Abigail. You are very very lucky that you did not out any town PRs

No town PR is CCing me lol

Also I claimed cop specifically cause it purely never exists here

It's not just a cop; Mikey's play in the game I mentioned was bad because it outed a town roleblocker. Just don't do it again

Don't tell me how to play mafia. Kthx.

I will do it again and I do not care.

Then you will throw a game at some point. That's just that.

Incorrect and my record speaks for itself so kindly fuck off and worry about yourself and I will worry about me

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Everywhere I've ever played people fake all the time lol

There are times when you can fake it role madness but doing it in a setup with limited PRs is a very bad idea because if they get outed it's very very bad

Like this is not even a point that is up for debate

We understand your pov.

Continuing to argue it benefits no one. K thx bai.

They put me through all that BS for nothing, I get to be pissed off here

Although I definitely should calm down

Literally 5 ICs isn't nothing shut the fuck up

[Thunal33]

This is apparently where I'm at right now. Feels weird, but it is what it is.

Epignosis
leetic

Dyslexicon

Jackofhearts2005
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Delta
Roxy

S~V~S
Thunal33
pyxxy
DrWilgy

Long Con

LinearPoint
Scotty

With two of Sean's strong townreads basically confirmed town, it wouldn't make sense for scum to NK him over leetic if he had bad reads. I feel fairly confident just based on this that Epi is town as well, and there's likely at least one wolf in the PoE group of SVS, me, pyxxy, Wilgy, and LC.

[leetic]

I tell you, Abigail. You are very very lucky that you did not out any town PRs

No town PR is CCing me lol

If one did it would have been very very bad. There's a reason why fake cop claims like this are considered gamethrowing behavior

They aren't anywhere I've ever played considered game throwing

Town isn't stupid they aren't gonna CC especially since cop isn't in this set up lol

1. How do you know there is no cop in this setup?
2. How do you know they won't CC when town does stupid things all the time (case in point)?
3. How do you know there's no roleblocker, redirector, etc. whose actions could contradict your claim?

Just because it happened that the setup was such that this wasn't a disaster doesn't mean it couldn't have been. Don't do it again.

1. Intelligence and general balance

2. Intelligence and no town CCs that check before EoD

3. Intelligence because a redirection is not in this set up and a town RBer didn't RB me or you lol

Unbalanced setups happen all the time, and there were enough people who had suspected Dizzy that you couldn't guarantee no roleblocker on them. #2 depends on town playing optimally, which as we have seen in this game doesn't always happen. I have seen a game where this gambit nearly ruined everything, I don't think you appreciate the fire you're playing with

Plus, everyone who digged through my ISO looking for partner interactions wasted their time, so thanks for that

[leetic]

When I have no info and I'm not about to reread 18 pages this is an easy and low risk way to obtain info

I do not regret it

I never will

Bbl

It only turned out to be low risk because of the setup, which was closed and you didn't know. Don't put the game in jeopardy just because you're too lazy to read

[leetic]

Like that is behavior some hosts would modkill over for playing against wincon

[S~V~S]

I am ok with the time I spent of partner interactions. Can we stop arguing and get wolves. I think this was actually helpful, and leetic will too once they’re no longer top wagon.

Since everyone is apparently too busy being butthurt to give me an LC synopsis, I’ll go read.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Like that is behavior some hosts would modkill over for playing against wincon

No... no it's not

Fuck off lol

[leetic]

I think this was actually helpful, and leetic will too once they’re no longer top wagon.

No, just because it might have a positive result in the end does not mean it's a good thing at all. This is probably the most frustrated I've ever been playing mafia, at least when scum framed me and when a jester fake red checked me they were playing to their wincons. I'm honestly considering getting a replacement

[leetic]

Like that is behavior some hosts would modkill over for playing against wincon

No... no it's not

Fuck off lol

Yes it is, that could have gone very bad and you know it

You fuck off

[leetic]

That's it, @Justplayingitcool I'm subbing out. I hate doing this, but when I'm just so pissed off from this bad play there's no way I can put in a good performance for town. Abigail should feel ashamed

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Like that is behavior some hosts would modkill over for playing against wincon

No... no it's not

Fuck off lol

Yes it is, that could have gone very bad and you know it

You fuck off

How about you leave me the fuck alone

You don't get to decide what is and isn't good or bad

No host is killing a player for playing the game and faking a check or they are the worst host in mafia history and should be banned from ever hosting a mafia game on any site across the whole of FM

Leave
Me
Alone

You don't get to dictate how I play mafia shut the fuck up and solve the not obv towns

[leetic]

Like this is worse than Mikey's fake check, at least he felt there was no other way for town to listen to him unless he made the gambit. Abigail was just being lazy.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I literally solved the game

Get good

[leetic]

Like that is behavior some hosts would modkill over for playing against wincon

No... no it's not

Fuck off lol

Yes it is, that could have gone very bad and you know it

You fuck off

How about you leave me the fuck alone

You don't get to decide what is and isn't good or bad

No host is killing a player for playing the game and faking a check or they are the worst host in mafia history and should be banned from ever hosting a mafia game on any site across the whole of FM

Leave
Me
Alone

You don't get to dictate how I play mafia shut the fuck up and solve the not obv towns

What am I supposed to say when you leave me flailing for hours in a move that could have killed the game? Well, town is losing a vocal player for that, and it's all your fault

[leetic]

Maybe I should just stay in FFR

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Like that is behavior some hosts would modkill over for playing against wincon

No... no it's not

Fuck off lol

Yes it is, that could have gone very bad and you know it

You fuck off

How about you leave me the fuck alone

You don't get to decide what is and isn't good or bad

No host is killing a player for playing the game and faking a check or they are the worst host in mafia history and should be banned from ever hosting a mafia game on any site across the whole of FM

Leave
Me
Alone

You don't get to dictate how I play mafia shut the fuck up and solve the not obv towns

What am I supposed to say when you leave me flailing for hours in a move that could have killed the game? Well, town is losing a vocal player for that, and it's all your fault

You could say

Wow there's 24 hours left and lots of new and useful info let's solve the game thanks for giving town so much time to work with

You spent 24 hours whining about how town needed to do stuff

Now they have to and they have more info and you're showing no interest in moving the game forward anymore

Honestly it makes me wonder if my fake was actually right and now you can just drown town with negative energy cause I got cold feet and you don't need to pretend to care about solving anymore

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Now I for real need to devote my entire energy to my girlfriend.

There's 5 obv towns. We win. Let's go.

[leetic]

Like that is behavior some hosts would modkill over for playing against wincon

No... no it's not

Fuck off lol

Yes it is, that could have gone very bad and you know it

You fuck off

How about you leave me the fuck alone

You don't get to decide what is and isn't good or bad

No host is killing a player for playing the game and faking a check or they are the worst host in mafia history and should be banned from ever hosting a mafia game on any site across the whole of FM

Leave
Me
Alone

You don't get to dictate how I play mafia shut the fuck up and solve the not obv towns

What am I supposed to say when you leave me flailing for hours in a move that could have killed the game? Well, town is losing a vocal player for that, and it's all your fault

You could say

Wow there's 24 hours left and lots of new and useful info let's solve the game thanks for giving town so much time to work with

You spent 24 hours whining about how town needed to do stuff

Now they have to and they have more info and you're showing no interest in moving the game forward anymore

Honestly it makes me wonder if my fake was actually right and now you can just drown town with negative energy cause I got cold feet and you don't need to pretend to care about solving anymore

You have to realize your actions have emotional consequences. Like really, if you force me for twenty-four hours to fight for my life and then say "oh, it was fake, I was just doing a potentially gamethrowing move" then what am I supposed to do? We're in a better place now but there are ways to do that without potentially throwing the game, so don't blame me if you don't have the skill or creativity to scumhunt without potentially outing all the town's PRs. But whatever, I'm supposed to be subbing out so I have no idea why I'm still responding

[leetic]

Town, just ignore me and focus on solving the game. Hopefully my replacement will arrive soon

[Jackofhearts2005]

Sadly, Abigail is probably town. They are doing something incredibly stupid, which will be made clear in due time. But I just don't see mafia doing this — trying to out a potential Cop CC when it's unclear one exists and trying to kill a vocal townie that they could nightkill anyway just doesn't make sense to lose a decently townread player that will be outed by my flip. A 1v1 here will just waste town's day, so I'll try to do my best to avoid it.

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine It is completely weird how they completely avoided talking about the elephant in the room, and since this is likely t/t and the two wagons last EoD that they ignored were also t/t, I think it shows a pretty consistent pattern of a wolf that is happy to let town fight itself.

Using the word *stupid* to describe a player is not nice and frowned upon by me.
I'm glad people are playing their own game instead of the lemmings that followed you yesterday.

Well to be stupid I would have to be wrong which I'm not so the insult lost its fangs.

Well, you are wrong. If you're actually town, you better apologize when I flip

Oh god they said the towny words

Cool I caught up

Time to piss Leetic off lol

I rescind my claim and Leetic is obv town as fuck

Thunal is obv town as fuck.

Delta is obv town as fuck.

Roxy looks awful

Jack looks awful

Pyxxy looks pretty mid

You can say I played bad but there's 24 hours left in this phase and we have 4 people who are basically lock town off this so let's go win a game and you can bitch at me after kk

I rescind my claim

Lul.

Explain the ones not me.

[Epignosis]

I am not the moderator on duty, but strictly in the capacity of an admin, I will ask that folks step away, take a breather, and stop responding to one another with a lack of cordiality. If you are upset, the moderator on duty I believe is fingersplints. Please speak to her with any grievances.

^ @fingersplints

[Jackofhearts2005]

OKAY WITH THAT IN MIND can people go revisit Long Con's reaction to the Leetic check with the knowledge that Abi was fpsing & Leetic prolly town?

I feel like I'm losing it but there's something there

No your right

It's like actually probably just LC/Roxy/Jack or Pyxxy tbh

Do you think LC/Jack stacked on v!pyxxy with v/v wagons as is?

We are very good at wolfin tbh

[Jackofhearts2005]

[Jackofhearts2005]

I tell you, Abigail. You are very very lucky that you did not out any town PRs

No town PR is CCing me lol

If one did it would have been very very bad. There's a reason why fake cop claims like this are considered gamethrowing behavior

They aren't anywhere I've ever played considered game throwing

Town isn't stupid they aren't gonna CC especially since cop isn't in this set up lol

1. How do you know there is no cop in this setup?
2. How do you know they won't CC when town does stupid things all the time (case in point)?
3. How do you know there's no roleblocker, redirector, etc. whose actions could contradict your claim?

Just because it happened that the setup was such that this wasn't a disaster doesn't mean it couldn't have been. Don't do it again.

Tbf, if I was a cop in this setup and someone faked a red on my top (noncopped) townread with this kinda posting ratio, I wouldn’t CC cause I’d assume it was a fancy pants play.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm gonna go spend time with my girlfriend she's upset and more important than you guys

The game is ez 5 people are sorted off this claim

Stop acting like it's a throw and solve the rest

Byeeee

Since when?

[Jackofhearts2005]

This is apparently where I'm at right now. Feels weird, but it is what it is.

Epignosis
leetic

Dyslexicon

Jackofhearts2005
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Delta
Roxy

S~V~S
Thunal33
pyxxy
DrWilgy

Long Con

LinearPoint
Scotty

With two of Sean's strong townreads basically confirmed town, it wouldn't make sense for scum to NK him over leetic if he had bad reads. I feel fairly confident just based on this that Epi is town as well, and there's likely at least one wolf in the PoE group of SVS, me, pyxxy, Wilgy, and LC.

Agreed. When Seanzie is wrong, you just let him be wrong.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Idk if LC/Pyxxy is a difference check but it’s a good place to start.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Like this isn’t based on a lot but I feel like Thunnel has been the most townie of those 4.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Five. I meant ally left out Wilgy for some reason. Possibly because o haven’t seen any of his posts

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Looks like it's back into hibernation for me, hallelujah

Like this is the closest thing to an actual comment he has on my wagon

There's a red check on you lol

You've never seen a red check turn out to be fake?

Of course

But I'm a basic bitch that usually goes wjth the most likely outcome

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’m gonna throw out a big dumb townread on Delta. I think a wolf doesn’t make that post about me, Leetic and Pyxxy.

Maybe if those happen to all be townies you legit think you can string up all three but like what are the chances? Delta probably just town.