The Syndicate

Enrique wrote:Yeah, Made... why would you make that assumption in the first place?

Mongoose wrote:^ I have no idea if he is joking or not!

Have fun & be safe. Make sure those bears aren't making comma splices.

Made wrote:

Enrique wrote:Yeah, Made... why would you make that assumption in the first place?

Honestly, because assumptions are fun. They also allowed me to get a theory. When SVS pointed out I assumed even, I edited my theory to account for additional people.

Since no one''s called me on it yet, I also assumed that if someone critizied Hedge they weren't teammates. I just assumed this because i would help is get a smaller group of candidates for questioning

As for your other comment about questioning you Enrique...


Ignore the last line of that,
I'm taking an Practice ACT so I wouldn't be able to post this when the timer in my Signature ends. The forum's been too slow to day to try to alarm everyone anyways :/

Mister Rearranger wrote:Has anyone else read the first page again?

Only asking 'cause it seems like there's some confusion as to what DF's role was, as well as what MP's role could have done...

S~V~S wrote:UGH

Not proofreading ftl:

I don't want to draw any targets, you have been very very active. Indeed, your "poky, question" playstyle, while not showing much opinion of your own, has made me suspect you to some extent. You have been following closely is my point here, I would have thought you would possibly know what I was talking about. A few days back MADE said something I found interesting, and I called him out on it, and Enrique slapped my wrist for it. So I backed off of Made due to that. But if Made is now going to suspect Enrique, what I thought to be possible becomes not as likely. And the only reason I backed off of my suspicion of Made from Day Zero is gone.

Fixed

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:UGH

Not proofreading ftl:

I don't want to draw any targets, you have been very very active. Indeed, your "poky, question" playstyle, while not showing much opinion of your own, has made me suspect you to some extent. You have been following closely is my point here, I would have thought you would possibly know what I was talking about. A few days back MADE said something I found interesting, and I called him out on it, and Enrique slapped my wrist for it. So I backed off of Made due to that. But if Made is now going to suspect Enrique, what I thought to be possible becomes not as likely. And the only reason I backed off of my suspicion of Made from Day Zero is gone.

Fixed

I figured that's what you meant. Anyway, that's how I have a tendency to play. It helps me interact with people (when they actually respond), and also helps me keep up with the goings-on. Also, I'm not a great scumhunter, so I believe this helps others when they are doing such. Sometimes, I default to this style like I've kinda done this game. When I post original thoughts and ask questions and get no response, I tend to lose motivation. As you say, I've been active, and I was pushing Made on Day 1 as well, but it just went completely under the radar. It's a bit frustrating, really.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Also @ Enrique, you say you don't have a clue to what Made alignment is. I agree, no one does but he. You also don't want to acknowledge him being civvie, and you are using this excuse. So why argue to not lynch him if you don't think he is civvie? This doesn't sit well with me.

Also @ Enrique, you say you don't have a clue to what Made alignment is. I agree, no one does but he. You also don't want to acknowledge him being civvie, and you are using this excuse. So why argue to not lynch him if you don't think he is civvie? This doesn't sit well with me.

Enrique wrote:

Also @ Enrique, you say you don't have a clue to what Made alignment is. I agree, no one does but he. You also don't want to acknowledge him being civvie, and you are using this excuse. So why argue to not lynch him if you don't think he is civvie? This doesn't sit well with me.

I'm not arguing not to lynch him?? I've made posts on this. I hate repeating myself. I thought llama's case was weak so I argued against it. I had no reason to think he was not-civvie. Can you acknowledge my actual stance now?

bea wrote:MM - the way I read Erique Suave's statements was thus: "I thought the case on Made was total BS. My defense of Made wasn't due to firmly believing his affiliation to being civ so much as it was my firm belief that the case was not a good case at all and could have potentially been a baddie looking for an easy reason to lynch anyone not on their team."

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

bea wrote:MM - the way I read Erique Suave's statements was thus: "I thought the case on Made was total BS. My defense of Made wasn't due to firmly believing his affiliation to being civ so much as it was my firm belief that the case was not a good case at all and could have potentially been a baddie looking for an easy reason to lynch anyone not on their team."

That's a lot of work for a Day 1 don't you think? I especially think so, because I still firmly believe the case against Made is very solid.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Made wrote:

Enrique wrote:Yeah, Made... why would you make that assumption in the first place?

Honestly, because assumptions are fun. They also allowed me to get a theory. When SVS pointed out I assumed even, I edited my theory to account for additional people.

Since no one''s called me on it yet, I also assumed that if someone critizied Hedge they weren't teammates. I just assumed this because i would help is get a smaller group of candidates for questioning

As for your other comment about questioning you Enrique...


Ignore the last line of that,
I'm taking an Practice ACT so I wouldn't be able to post this when the timer in my Signature ends. The forum's been too slow to day to try to alarm everyone anyways :/

Why don't we just keep everything in the game thread?

Mister Rearranger wrote:Has anyone else read the first page again?

Only asking 'cause it seems like there's some confusion as to what DF's role was, as well as what MP's role could have done...

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

bea wrote:MM - the way I read Erique Suave's statements was thus: "I thought the case on Made was total BS. My defense of Made wasn't due to firmly believing his affiliation to being civ so much as it was my firm belief that the case was not a good case at all and could have potentially been a baddie looking for an easy reason to lynch anyone not on their team."

That's a lot of work for a Day 1 don't you think? I especially think so, because I still firmly believe the case against Made is very solid.

juliets wrote:So made, I'm just dense. What are you saying with that pastebin? And I agree with MM, can we keep everything in the thread? I know your practice testing - at least I think thats what you said - so you can't answer now but maybe when you are finished with the test.

bea wrote: I think there's plenty here in the thread itself to look at as far as Made goes, but of all the day one cases against him, I found SVS's the easiest and most thread based to follow fwiw.

Made wrote:

bea wrote: I think there's plenty here in the thread itself to look at as far as Made goes, but of all the day one cases against him, I found SVS's the easiest and most thread based to follow fwiw.

I agree with this.

Dom wrote:ATTENTION PLAYERS:

I am going to be packing and traveling and moving into my room at school until Monday. I will be a little less available than usual. Any PMs sent to me ARE important and I will get to them as soon as humanly possible. I just wanted to ensure I am transparent with everyone, but so far, I guess no one's been unhappy because I've received no PMs-- and that makes me mildly happy.

Enrique wrote: I'm not gonna defend a position that's not even mine. Gonna get my eye checked, see y'alls later.

S~V~S wrote:This is a young man with a future.

Bullzeye wrote:So these are the opinions I have found about the people who are currently on the poll.

MP - I feel like MP started out by saying a lot without saying very much at all. He has a lot of posts with a lot of words in them but doesn't do much with them. Other than SVS he hasn't really came out strongly against anyone. He seemed like he might lean toward Made early on but was never convinced and now seems to have gone away from it entirely, which is fine. Also in my opinion he got quite defensive over Epi's suspicion of him.

SVS - I never know what to think of her in general. She has seemed very focused in her pursuit/suspicion of Made and I think her responses to MP's accusations against her have been quite reasonable. I definitely don't see this 'fabricated suspicion' that MP claims is there, I think she has genuine and understandable reasons to distrust Made. I also think that even baddies usually have genuine suspicions. Furthermore, others are suspicious of him for similar reasons but MP only seems to suggest that SVS' suspicion is the dishonest one. Having read the exchanges between these two I would have to say if one of them is definitely bad and the other civ I'd lean towards trusting SVS. That's not to say I'll vote MP today though but I do have an eye on him so far.

Daisy - It's great to see someone with just three posts after going through SVS and MP's! Only one of her posts is really on topic but I know she's usually very busy so that means little or nothing to me. Her read of MP could be particularly damning for him.

BWT - Just after the challenge ended he said there'd been no serious game-related discussion yet, so maybe he ought to be careful what he wishes for!! Seriously though I do share his dismay at having to keep reading a novel's worth of text every time I log in. He is another who is suspicious of MP and shares my view that MP has said a lot without saying much. I also agree with him that we should back off from the Llama/Made fling for now. He seems pretty genuine and in my experience he's more blendy as a baddie so I'm leaning civ on BWT for now.

Juliets - I'm not feeling great about JC. In my opinion she seems to be trying to fly under the radar, not coming out against anyone. Most of her posts say that she isn't suspicious of Made or Llama but she doesn't seem to make much, if any, effort to say who she is suspicious of. The only hint at who might get her vote today is that she says she will vote to save Llama if necessary. My gut says she's not trustworthy and trying to be blendy.

Llama - I was enjoying not having too many posts to comb through He comes off here much like his usual civvie self in my opinion.

Lizzy - Has been missing since Tuesday! Maybe we need to form a search party. Her seven posts are pretty standard Lizzy material. That said, none are on topic or serious in nature but since she disappeared during day zero that's sort of to be expected. I'd like to hear more from her because I know she can be a tricky and dangerous baddie.

LC - I think his point about 'you would know' as a common phrase was good and agree with his view on Made. I'd like to hear more from him though. There isn't enough for me to get much of a feel for where he stands this game. It looks like he might be suspicious of SVS but other than that I'm not sure.

MR - Hasn't posted in a while. The last thing he said was he was joining the 'want to hear more from Made/Rey group' which, as Rey pointed out, he's the founding member of. So I'm not sure what he meant by that. Now that his game is over he might have more time for us so hopefully he makes it in today and can share some of his thoughts.

Canuck - I feel... okay about Canuck. I trusted her for a while in Misfits and was wrong to but here I think she looks quite genuine and I like her point that the baddies could be 'using this insane Made-centric firestorm to stay out of the way and out of memory'. With so much discussion centred around so few people I think it'd be very easy for someone to fly under the radar. She's another I'd like to hear more suspicion from but I feel reasonably good about her.

Dana - Trusted her in Misfits too and I was right for a change. Here she has said a fair bit but, like MP, hasn't really said much. I'm not sure how I feel about her yet.

Made - I doubt I'll vote Made at this point. I think everything that has happened with him here is basically the same as in Misfits, he's just one of those players I guess. I don't necessarily think he's a civ just yet, but I'm not calling him suspicious either.

So overall I guess this is where I stand on the players who are actually on today's poll:

Feel good about: SVS, Llama, BWT, Canuck

Unsure: Daisy, Lizzy, LC, MR, Dana, Made

Feel bad about: MP, JC.

bea wrote:Imma go.with.some.combo.of.both. the.Mr f.comparisons are apt methinks.

S~V~S wrote:Bullz lives in England, Faraday lives in Texas, so yeah, they probably were not on at the same time. He has not played a "strange game" he has actually given an opinion on everyone. And if you are trying to make a behavior based theory on someone, you can't "exclude" behavior that does not fit your theory.

Spacedaisy wrote:

bea wrote:Imma go.with.some.combo.of.both. the.Mr f.comparisons are apt methinks.

If we are of the mind that he plays very like Mr. f let me just say that I'm his first game, as his Baddie teammate I watched him play balls to the wall. We warned him certain actions are suspish and he said, screw it I am doing it my way anyhow. So, to be honest this all over the place stuff does not sit well with me because it is easy to write it off as someone being new, but I have see first hand how someone can play people using that newb card.

S~V~S wrote:What does that even mean?

Long Con wrote: or the claim that Made was doing what she warned against

Made wrote:

Long Con wrote: or the claim that Made was doing what she warned against

Dispor made the warning while Roxy was away. Roxy is also the one who made the rule system. I don't think anyone's claimed the person who got hit with a warning was me beside me. Regardless, Roxy has since laxed her rules in regards to speculation.

S~V~S wrote:You are talking about something totally different, Made. What warning?

Made wrote:

Made wrote:

Long Con wrote: or the claim that Made was doing what she warned against

Dispor made the warning while Roxy was away. Roxy is also the one who made the rule system. I don't think anyone's claimed the person who got hit with a warning was me beside me. Regardless, Roxy has since laxed her rules in regards to speculation.

Just reread what LC said, SVS, you thought the warning was directed towards me?

Roxy wrote:

Enrique wrote:BIH DF.

@Hosts: Are we allowed to speculate about why there was only one kill, the teams, and all that stuff? I'm still a little confused by this.

If it pleases thyself to wonder about the universe that is this game then by all means please thyself.

One smidgen of a rolehint/role outing etc it will cease again.