The 7th Saga [END, JJJ IS A DOOFUS]

[MacDougall]

Well apparently we have two cops so game should be hella easy.

Pretty sure Nanook was joking.

Yeah he must have been cuz I'm a cop too

A cop-doctor-vigilante should have won the game on Day 0.

I'm mafia aligned so I did

[1612]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I CANT believe we voted off Hally. THIS IS THE WORST!

[MacDougall]

Dude it's not that big a deal. Just need to figure out which of Nook and Ted is LC's teammate lol.

[MacDougall]

So nook is right that if LC is town that Nook (and Ted) are also town. So LC if you are town you have auto on 1612 and Fatmo. But you're not pushing that so you're outed mafia.

[MacDougall]

At 6 we can't afford 2 town kills tonight so if there is a vigi either shoot LC or holster.

LC is mafia city.

1612 is absolutely town based on how Alison pushed LC d1. If you read d1 you'll see I did similar.

Fatmo is probably just town because he held the vote on LC over Hally.

It is PROBABLY Ted based on how much he shielded LC day 1.

What say you [mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]?

[MacDougall]

Pretty sure it's just Ted and LC. If you analyse Ted's ISO properly with scum confirmation on LC you can see he's basically howling.

[MacDougall]

Fatmo I think Nook is claiming VT. So if you RB LC/Nook and there is a kill it outs Tedxtr imo.

[Long Con]

So nook is right that if LC is town that Nook (and Ted) are also town. So LC if you are town you have auto on 1612 and Fatmo. But you're not pushing that so you're outed mafia.

How is ted autotown?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

At 6 we can't afford 2 town kills tonight so if there is a vigi either shoot LC or holster.

LC is mafia city.

1612 is absolutely town based on how Alison pushed LC d1. If you read d1 you'll see I did similar.

Fatmo is probably just town because he held the vote on LC over Hally.

It is PROBABLY Ted based on how much he shielded LC day 1.

What say you @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME?

Probably taking this one flip at a time but

I don’t see a glaring flaw in the logic

[Long Con]

Fatmo is probably just town because he held the vote on LC over Hally.

Wait so Nanook is autotown because he switched to Hally, and Fatmo is autotown because he stayed on her? WHAT?

[MacDougall]

So nook is right that if LC is town that Nook (and Ted) are also town. So LC if you are town you have auto on 1612 and Fatmo. But you're not pushing that so you're outed mafia.

How is ted autotown?

Same reason Nook is. If you're town you should just assume mafia always vote for you after you claim. Anyone who doesn't is throwing. Especially Ted who didn't even post (fact check) ergo could have got away with it entirely.

[MacDougall]

Fatmo is probably just town because he held the vote on LC over Hally.

Wait so Nanook is autotown because he switched to Hally, and Fatmo is autotown because he stayed on her? WHAT?

Lol you're just openwolfing now. Cheers.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Fatmo is probably just town because he held the vote on LC over Hally.

Wait so Nanook is autotown because he switched to Hally, and Fatmo is autotown because he stayed on her? WHAT?

FYPOV Im lock town because I didn’t vote you


From Mac’s POV Fatmo is town for voting you cause he thinks you’re mafia

[Long Con]

Fatmo is probably just town because he held the vote on LC over Hally.

Wait so Nanook is autotown because he switched to Hally, and Fatmo is autotown because he stayed on her? WHAT?

Lol you're just openwolfing now. Cheers.

No... really, explain that logic.

[Long Con]

Fatmo is probably just town because he held the vote on LC over Hally.

Wait so Nanook is autotown because he switched to Hally, and Fatmo is autotown because he stayed on her? WHAT?

FYPOV Im lock town because I didn’t vote you


From Mac’s POV Fatmo is town for voting you cause he thinks you’re mafia

Ah - another perspective slip I see.

[Long Con]

So nook is right that if LC is town that Nook (and Ted) are also town. So LC if you are town you have auto on 1612 and Fatmo. But you're not pushing that so you're outed mafia.

How is ted autotown?

Same reason Nook is. If you're town you should just assume mafia always vote for you after you claim. Anyone who doesn't is throwing. Especially Ted who didn't even post (fact check) ergo could have got away with it entirely.

Ted wasn't even present since my claim though.

[MacDougall]

So nook is right that if LC is town that Nook (and Ted) are also town. So LC if you are town you have auto on 1612 and Fatmo. But you're not pushing that so you're outed mafia.

How is ted autotown?

Same reason Nook is. If you're town you should just assume mafia always vote for you after you claim. Anyone who doesn't is throwing. Especially Ted who didn't even post (fact check) ergo could have got away with it entirely.

Ted wasn't even present since my claim though.

Well he hadnt voted for Hally last i saw so I can't verify that

[MacDougall]

It kinda doesn't matter though because you should still have scum reads on 1612 and Fatmo and aren't pushing them. You're instead pushing me who voted with you. You are slipping and sliding.

[MacDougall]

As long as Fatmo is really town we have auto. So LC you can only win by proving Fatmo isn't.

[Long Con]

It kinda doesn't matter though because you should still have scum reads on 1612 and Fatmo and aren't pushing them. You're instead pushing me who voted with you. You are slipping and sliding.

I'm not even doing what I'm doing. I'm having some light Night conversation.

[Long Con]

So nook is right that if LC is town that Nook (and Ted) are also town. So LC if you are town you have auto on 1612 and Fatmo. But you're not pushing that so you're outed mafia.

How is ted autotown?

Same reason Nook is. If you're town you should just assume mafia always vote for you after you claim. Anyone who doesn't is throwing. Especially Ted who didn't even post (fact check) ergo could have got away with it entirely.

Ted wasn't even present since my claim though.

Well he hadnt voted for Hally last i saw so I can't verify that

You really can though.

[1612]

GAHHHD I don't know how you guys can do forum. I've invested so much in my town read on Hally and so have they in defending themselves. This is a big OOF in my morale. Q_Q

Well played Long Con, you've defended well and you're making the game hard/fun for town by avoiding it for two days, I bet you didn't think it was possible huh. I didn't

[Fatmo]

GAHHHD I don't know how you guys can do forum. I've invested so much in my town read on Hally and so have they in defending themselves. This is a big OOF in my morale. Q_Q

Well played Long Con, you've defended well and you're making the game hard/fun for town by avoiding it for two days, I bet you didn't think it was possible huh. I didn't

You're new to forum play? You're pretty good at posting those townie energy walls and stuff.

I could have sworn I saw someone say they had meta on you. If not from forum games, where have you played anyone from here before?

I know we didn't get LC killed over Hally, but in these small games, sometimes things just kind of click later. Sometimes it takes a couple big oof days for enough of town to narrow down their suspects correctly.

[1612]

Alright [mention]tedxtr[/mention] you got some explaining to do. Whyd you flip to Hally.

I believed your tinfoil on [mention]chardonnay[/mention] but I didn't believe your tinfoil on Hally. If you're town, I'd hate to pressure you like this since you are also probably low in morale but I can't help but mention I have tinfoil on you now.

I'm quite sad, Hally HAD it on Day 1 and no one acknowledged it. (Unless this was town on town like I feared but then we wouldn't have been able to avoid a Hally vote after flipping Long Con blue even if I still believed in them)

[1612]

GAHHHD I don't know how you guys can do forum. I've invested so much in my town read on Hally and so have they in defending themselves. This is a big OOF in my morale. Q_Q

Well played Long Con, you've defended well and you're making the game hard/fun for town by avoiding it for two days, I bet you didn't think it was possible huh. I didn't

You're new to forum play? You're pretty good at posting those townie energy walls and stuff.

I could have sworn I saw someone say they had meta on you. If not from forum games, where have you played anyone from here before?

I know we didn't get LC killed over Hally, but in these small games, sometimes things just kind of click later. Sometimes it takes a couple big oof days for enough of town to narrow down their suspects correctly.

This is my second forum game. You can take a look at my Lion King game, it was a bit embarrassing how I played as mafia but we won!

And sorry for not replying to you, I was a bit busy with school. Let me see if I can respond to your bulk text about me not communicating and solving you when I got the time.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

IIRC ted was on Hally before LC’s claim

He was certainly there when I switched, I’m sure of that

Pretty confident he was on Hally before the claim too, not 100% sure but I think he was

[1612]

IIRC ted was on Hally before LC’s claim

He was certainly there when I switched, I’m sure of that

Pretty confident he was on Hally before the claim too, not 100% sure but I think he was

Ted switched to hally after Mac said something along the lines of

If Long Con is mafia, his partner is bussing him
If Long Con is town, both mafia are voting him

Not saying that's WHY he switched because that's blatantly scummy trying to avoid being associated with Long Con but yeah. It was pre claim for sure.

[Fatmo]

Not saying that's WHY he switched because that's blatantly scummy trying to avoid being associated with Long Con but yeah. It was pre claim for sure.

It was before LC's claim but I think nook might be wondering if it was before Hally's.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Not saying that's WHY he switched because that's blatantly scummy trying to avoid being associated with Long Con but yeah. It was pre claim for sure.

It was before LC's claim but I think nook might be wondering if it was before Hally's.

I was not

[Fatmo]

Oh oops.

Well yea, Ted voted Hally a very long time ago. About nine or ten hours ago. It was his last post.

LC claimed like two hours ago.

[1612]

Also 1612, you seem to have decided I was scum based on Cass's play and then my awkward entrance to N1 without reading or anything. And also because I shaded Mac.

I mean, how would you feel about Mac if you had just jumped into the game, and like thirty seconds later after dipping your toe in and saying hello, Mac was yelling at you and everyone else that you were lock scum and demanding a full reveal of any power you might have? Lol like really. I get that for you it seems as simple as "I TR Mac and Fatmo shades Mac" but that's just how I felt about our initial interactions.

Like I've said, and even Mac has acknowledged, we may have just had a bad start and pinged each other. But I feel like we've actually communicated decently today and have at least somewhat more of an understanding of where the other is coming from.

You say you don't believe my claim. Can you elaborate on exactly what you don't buy about it? Like obviously I am a RB.

And at some point, I think you said I was trying to set up a possible bus on LC? Lol I don't get how you could think that. First of all, would you EVER imagine such a weird roleblocler role, where I had to block two people in alphabetical order?

Why would I give a potential reason to partially clear who you suspect is my teammate? Again, my RB would have stopped the NK if I successfully targeted who carried it, as long as I wasn't RBd myself or there is a strongman or something.

Why would I even admit to having RBd Mac if I'd legit thought he was a Doc and tried to stop him from saving someone? I wasn't even being pressured anymore like I had been during the night. Heck, even Mac's first post didn't talk about it at all. I just got the feeling either me or LC would likely be the kill, and that that's where all conversation would be spent during the day, so decided to just out what I'd done so people could have the info to help solve.

Cool paragraph. Maybe you town. I don't know man, I was tricked by Long Con when he gave full attempts. I don't know yet. I'll just say I really like your thought process here and I'll consider Hally's legacy read on you for the purity (whatever that means). I'm sure I can find you scum as we keep playing if you are mafia like I found Long Con. Or at least I hope.

Well here's the tea. Like Nanook said, it's unlikely we vote off role claims so I can see you claiming a power role to get the heat off you considering the damage you took in your entrance which was VERY rough. But that's a risky play and if so, I think you pulled it off well with such a unique role. But yeah, it checks out. Fair point.

And its mostly because my POE so maybe I was a bit tunneled. I feel like in a closed setup, mafia absolutely can fake claim a role. I don't know, maybe you did one of those hide the lie with some truth which is why I suspected that you were strongman on tutu or roleblocker on Mac who was fake softing vigi to shoot you. It makes sense if you're mafia to roleblock Mac if he claims vigi shooting you. I thought that's why you roleblocked him in the first place? Why did you role block him?

Fax. Makes sense why you don't trust him. Past OMGUS. Shows that you have a genuine explanation of the way why you are focused on Mac. I get it. You are starting to convince me but hopefully this is not like how Long Con convinces me.

[1612]

Oh man well let's not forget mafia have night time chat so they (long con and tedxtr) could've coordinated something seemingly so uncoordinated that we don't look into it.... or maybe THATS what they WANT us to think. alright ted locked town /s

[1612]

Who's dying tonight you guys think. Or is that not a good discussion to have?

[Fatmo]

Fatmo I think Nook is claiming VT. So if you RB LC/Nook and there is a kill it outs Tedxtr imo.

I want everyone's opinion on this. Not just Mac's. This is the exact kind of thing I'm never sure about.

I want takes from everyone on this. The more takes there are, the more likely that the majority of them are coming from town.

[Long Con]

Who's dying tonight you guys think. Or is that not a good discussion to have?

Definitely me.

[1612]

Tell me why 1612 is town before you die, [Hally]

Is it meta, is it just their catchup post, something else?

TMI

LONG CON HOW DID YOU PULL THIS OFF IM IUHALIWUDHAWILUHALIWUDH

nanook you swapped right? did you fear voting up cop claims? Why would Long Con claim with <1 hour when not everyone is online at the same time. I WISH I were in EoD because I wouldve been there to call BS.

[1612]

Who's dying tonight you guys think. Or is that not a good discussion to have?

Definitely me.

[Fatmo]

Also, I can only use this power one more time. It's a two shot thing.

[MacDougall]

Alright @tedxtr you got some explaining to do. Whyd you flip to Hally.

I believed your tinfoil on @chardonnay but I didn't believe your tinfoil on Hally. If you're town, I'd hate to pressure you like this since you are also probably low in morale but I can't help but mention I have tinfoil on you now.

I'm quite sad, Hally HAD it on Day 1 and no one acknowledged it. (Unless this was town on town like I feared but then we wouldn't have been able to avoid a Hally vote after flipping Long Con blue even if I still believed in them)

Alison and I also pushed LC and voted for him day 1 fwiw.

[1612]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @MacDougall @tedxtr get your votes off me jesus christ. lc is not cop

Don’t know don’t care I’m checking out and sheeping Mac, you guys can figure it out

THIS IS HEARTBREAKING IM SORRY FOR KEEP ON BRINGING IT UP BUT AAAAAAAAAAAA

[1612]

Alright @tedxtr you got some explaining to do. Whyd you flip to Hally.

I believed your tinfoil on @chardonnay but I didn't believe your tinfoil on Hally. If you're town, I'd hate to pressure you like this since you are also probably low in morale but I can't help but mention I have tinfoil on you now.

I'm quite sad, Hally HAD it on Day 1 and no one acknowledged it. (Unless this was town on town like I feared but then we wouldn't have been able to avoid a Hally vote after flipping Long Con blue even if I still believed in them)

Alison and I also pushed LC and voted for him day 1 fwiw.

Mac, you're town, np

[MacDougall]

Also, I can only use this power one more time. It's a two shot thing.

You don't need other people's opinions just use your big fat brain.

I know you are still suspicious of me, I don't fully understand why you are but I know you are. Forget that for a second and then worldbuild. 1612 is clearly town so the mafia are only in LC/Nook/Ted if I am town. So if you with your amazing ability to roleblock two combinations of them you can bloody solve the game tonight.

The only way you can't solve the game is if one of 1612 or me is mafia. So figure out that we aren't and get confident.

[1612]

Also, I can only use this power one more time. It's a two shot thing.

You don't need other people's opinions just use your big fat brain.

I know you are still suspicious of me, I don't fully understand why you are but I know you are. Forget that for a second and then worldbuild. 1612 is clearly town so the mafia are only in LC/Nook/Ted if I am town. So if you with your amazing ability to roleblock two combinations of them you can bloody solve the game tonight.

The only way you can't solve the game is if one of 1612 or me is mafia. So figure out that we aren't and get confident.

He can only do it alphabetically. So if we wants to roleblock Long Con, he HAS to roleblock Fatmo. I don't see them as a team honestly but if its that easy. ayyy lets go.

[MacDougall]

Also, I can only use this power one more time. It's a two shot thing.

You don't need other people's opinions just use your big fat brain.

I know you are still suspicious of me, I don't fully understand why you are but I know you are. Forget that for a second and then worldbuild. 1612 is clearly town so the mafia are only in LC/Nook/Ted if I am town. So if you with your amazing ability to roleblock two combinations of them you can bloody solve the game tonight.

The only way you can't solve the game is if one of 1612 or me is mafia. So figure out that we aren't and get confident.

He can only do it alphabetically. So if we wants to roleblock Long Con, he HAS to roleblock Fatmo. I don't see them as a team honestly but if its that easy. ayyy lets go.

He can roleblock LC and Nook or Nook and Ted. Or LC and me.

So if he roleblocks LC and Nook and there is no kill that's the team. If there is a kill then it's LC and Ted.

[MacDougall]

Oh wait he can't RB LC and Nook. Lame.

[1612]

oh wait, he is fatmo lmao

1612
LongCon
Mac
Nanook
Ted

okay so fatmo if you want to clear me as town, roleblock me and longcon (im just villager)
you have already cleared mac and long con so this is probably a rip. Yeah wtf, in your perspective, Mac is CONFIRMED town to you if Long Con is mafia because if they are both mafia, there would have been no kill with roleblocks. Why haven't you figured that out yet this past day?

He can't roleblock LC and Nook I'm pretty sure.

[MacDougall]

Fatmo as per his claim can roleblock

1612/LC
LC/Mac
Mac/Nook
Nook/Ted

[MacDougall]

oh wait, he is fatmo lmao

1612
LongCon
Mac
Nanook
Ted

okay so fatmo if you want to clear me as town, roleblock me and longcon (im just villager)
you have already cleared mac and long con so this is probably a rip. Yeah wtf, in your perspective, Mac is CONFIRMED town to you if Long Con is mafia because if they are both mafia, there would have been no kill with roleblocks. Why haven't you figured that out yet this past day?

He can't roleblock LC and Nook I'm pretty sure.

How does roleblocking you and LC clear you?

[MacDougall]

That's a very good point re: Fatmo cannot be living in a world where I am mafia with LC.

[1612]

right... doesn't really do much for us does it mac damn. hopefully LC is the mafia power role and we just role block him again. Right? That's the play right? There can't be like a double town kill tonight...