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Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:09 pm
by LinearPoint
It would make it impossible for LC to have visited Scotty so yeah I think Scotty just cannot be Town at all in any scenario here.
The whole Mafia would have to be hypercoordinated with multiple fake Investigative claims on Scotty.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:09 pm
by alexa
i think Scotty is just outed

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:09 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Scotty is town, and we are killing him.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Night 1]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:10 pm
by Scotty
DrWilgy wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:07 pm
alexa wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:46 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:41 pm
alexa wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:40 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:37 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:35 pm Ok well, if we’re to believe that Mac is a sane cop, Alexa is SK. That Alexa has admitted to killing falcon is probably pretty right on the mark for Mac’s role being sane.

Unless Mac is lying of course to get rid of Alexa.
I tend to believe Mac because he has little incentive to make this up as town.
i have a one shot KP. tracker can go on me or whatever if you don't believe me. or lie detector. if there's an actual SK then either their kill or scum kill got blocked last night. also if i'm SK i don't target falcon that'd be dumb, i shot him because he was POE and i wanted to hit a wolf.
Tbh, your last sentence doesn't make sense, if you wanted to hit wolf, you should have shot the dude who won the EOD tie breaker.
i didn't wolfread SoA though and thought that they could have useful information from their PR. i considered it but like.. that was never my choice of wagon
SoA is just likely town. Scotty sheeped my suspicion on SoA too hard.
I sheeped you for finding SOA sus for my own reasons that had nothing to do with you?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:10 pm
by alexa
which also clears me if Linear isn't lying about a redirection role existing and Michele/MM being the only 2 cops

Re: Fortune of Lies [Night 1]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:11 pm
by DrWilgy
Michelle wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:00 pm @DrWilgy are you playing or just dropped a bomb and dipped?
I was driving back home between cities lol. Just happened to be at a gas station when the thread unlocked :p

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:13 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Let's kill Scotty for real, no need to discuss further.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:13 pm
by Scotty
Here’s some shitty WIFOM defense: why would I kill LC, one of the only people to lump me into his town core? Wouldn’t I want people in my corner?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:13 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Scotty is obviously town

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:14 pm
by alexa
Scotty wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:13 pm Here’s some shitty WIFOM defense: why would I kill LC, one of the only people to lump me into his town core? Wouldn’t I want people in my corner?
i mean, i think you're towny by play but you're basically mechanically outed by multiple people lol

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:14 pm
by Scotty
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:13 pm Scotty is obviously town
I hope they kill you and you win, you clown

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:15 pm
by NotAnAxehole
For anyone wondering, yes this is a play I would make if Scotty and I were both mafia.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Night 1]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:15 pm
by DrWilgy
MafiaMenace wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:14 pm dw dr wilgy ive come to save the day
hardclaim cop with a red check on scotty
HEYO

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:16 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Scotty wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:14 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:13 pm Scotty is obviously town
I hope they kill you and you win, you clown
For the record, I think you're town.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:17 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Unless you're my partner

Re: Fortune of Lies [Night 1]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:17 pm
by DrWilgy
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:21 pm Honestly I already said my reasons for believing the Lie Detector to be Mafia and not Town.
It's very useful for the Mafia and the Town was given 2 Cops in the Setup.
I can get along with this thinking.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:18 pm
by alexa
NAA, you think Wilgy is mafia then? because Wilgy is claiming Scotty visited LC and Scotty is claiming he didn't, so one of them has to be mafia. Wilgy had no reason to fake that imo.

In addition to MM having a red check on Scotty and Michelle being the insane cop.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:18 pm
by DrWilgy
Scotty wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:24 pm COP COULD LITERALLY BE A MAFIA ROLE
Silence wolf

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:18 pm
by NotAnAxehole
alexa wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:18 pm NAA, you think Wilgy is mafia then? because Wilgy is claiming Scotty visited LC and Scotty is claiming he didn't, so one of them has to be mafia. Wilgy had no reason to fake that imo.

In addition to MM having a red check on Scotty and Michelle being the insane cop.
I'm not going to expand my claim to other players at this time.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:19 pm
by NotAnAxehole
DrWilgy wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:18 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:24 pm COP COULD LITERALLY BE A MAFIA ROLE
Silence wolf
Yeah, Scotty, stop defending yourself my man, you're clearly outted by game mechanics. Ya filthy villager.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:22 pm
by NotAnAxehole
I have a green check on Scotty, am I the insane cop?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:22 pm
by LinearPoint
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:22 pm I have a green check on Scotty, am I the insane cop?
No, you're NAA. You're unique.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:23 pm
by DrWilgy
MacDougall wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:49 pm maybe everyone in the game was redirected to Scotty somehow
I got it. Mac's role is literally "confused papi" and that's all the host gave him.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:25 pm
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:22 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:22 pm I have a green check on Scotty, am I the insane cop?
No, you're NAA. You're unique.
I'm serious, I will also hammer the shot out of Scotty if given the opportunity 🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:26 pm
by alexa
i'm also guessing both cops had some sort of mechanical indication of if they were sane or not? considering MM said they suspected they were sane and Michelle said they suspected they were insane.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:26 pm
by NotAnAxehole
I would prefer to kill Mac though, can we do that?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:28 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Ok, wait is there anything I can do to convince y'all I'm not the Jester?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:28 pm
by DrWilgy
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:05 pm Hold on, I'm getting a message from my brain.
I'm dumb af.
Please place the drugs on the desk and back away.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:29 pm
by LinearPoint
So if Scotty flips Mafia I think that pretty much clears MM, Wiggly, and SoA.
MM and Wiggly for confirming their roles pretty much and SoA because like I said Mafia would absolutely not risk a 50/50 lynch.

As much as Alexa would like, I don't think it clears her just yet only because Michelle is the one saying she is Town and Michelle could be Mafia though I would still believe both are Town.

If WCS Scotty does flip Town. I have no idea.
it would mean MM and Wiggly are both lying or for some reason the Host makes Framer also fake visits and there is a second Framer.
On top of this, I would have to throw the book of logic out the window because nothing in this game makes any sense.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:30 pm
by LinearPoint
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:28 pm Ok, wait is there anything I can do to convince y'all I'm not the Jester?
I'm already convinced you're just a unique individual.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:30 pm
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:30 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:28 pm Ok, wait is there anything I can do to convince y'all I'm not the Jester?
I'm already convinced you're just a unique individual.
Ok, so you're telling me there's a chance?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:31 pm
by LinearPoint
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:30 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:30 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:28 pm Ok, wait is there anything I can do to convince y'all I'm not the Jester?
I'm already convinced you're just a unique individual.
Ok, so you're telling me there's a chance?
Yeah honestly when you die and flip Jester I might be convinced.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:32 pm
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:31 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:30 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:30 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:28 pm Ok, wait is there anything I can do to convince y'all I'm not the Jester?
I'm already convinced you're just a unique individual.
Ok, so you're telling me there's a chance?
Yeah honestly when you die and flip Jester I might be convinced.
:nicenod:

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:32 pm
by alexa
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:29 pm So if Scotty flips Mafia I think that pretty much clears MM, Wiggly, and SoA.
MM and Wiggly for confirming their roles pretty much and SoA because like I said Mafia would absolutely not risk a 50/50 lynch.

As much as Alexa would like, I don't think it clears her just yet only because Michelle is the one saying she is Town and Michelle could be Mafia though I would still believe both are Town.

If WCS Scotty does flip Town. I have no idea.
it would mean MM and Wiggly are both lying or for some reason the Host makes Framer also fake visits and there is a second Framer.
On top of this, I would have to throw the book of logic out the window because nothing in this game makes any sense.
wait, why would SoA be cleared specifically by Scotty mafia? didn't SoA risk the 50/50 regardless of Scotty's alignment?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:32 pm
by LinearPoint
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:32 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:31 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:30 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:30 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:28 pm Ok, wait is there anything I can do to convince y'all I'm not the Jester?
I'm already convinced you're just a unique individual.
Ok, so you're telling me there's a chance?
Yeah honestly when you die and flip Jester I might be convinced.
:nicenod:
Might. You could just be a self Flip Framer.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:33 pm
by DrWilgy
Hmm... What if Mac is the SK and just isn't afraid of the SK hit because of that?

Chances are there is no SK, but if there is, the above explains it.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:33 pm
by LinearPoint
alexa wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:32 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:29 pm So if Scotty flips Mafia I think that pretty much clears MM, Wiggly, and SoA.
MM and Wiggly for confirming their roles pretty much and SoA because like I said Mafia would absolutely not risk a 50/50 lynch.

As much as Alexa would like, I don't think it clears her just yet only because Michelle is the one saying she is Town and Michelle could be Mafia though I would still believe both are Town.

If WCS Scotty does flip Town. I have no idea.
it would mean MM and Wiggly are both lying or for some reason the Host makes Framer also fake visits and there is a second Framer.
On top of this, I would have to throw the book of logic out the window because nothing in this game makes any sense.
wait, why would SoA be cleared specifically by Scotty mafia? didn't SoA risk the 50/50 regardless of Scotty's alignment?
Well I mean logically Mafia would have to be extremely confident in SoA's skills at Rock, Paper, Scissors to willingly force him into a 1v1 with MigthyQ.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:34 pm
by MafiaMenace
alexa wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:26 pm i'm also guessing both cops had some sort of mechanical indication of if they were sane or not? considering MM said they suspected they were sane and Michelle said they suspected they were insane.
im limited use
as insane is a negative modifier im presuming he doesnt nerf it into the ground further

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:35 pm
by NotAnAxehole
I'm voting mac so that I can hold the moral high ground when Scotty flips town.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:36 pm
by LinearPoint
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:35 pm I'm voting mac so that I can hold the moral high ground when Scotty flips town.
I'll take the moral grey area and side with logic.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:36 pm
by alexa
NAA's treatment of Scotty is sketching me out rn.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:37 pm
by alexa
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:33 pm
alexa wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:32 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:29 pm So if Scotty flips Mafia I think that pretty much clears MM, Wiggly, and SoA.
MM and Wiggly for confirming their roles pretty much and SoA because like I said Mafia would absolutely not risk a 50/50 lynch.

As much as Alexa would like, I don't think it clears her just yet only because Michelle is the one saying she is Town and Michelle could be Mafia though I would still believe both are Town.

If WCS Scotty does flip Town. I have no idea.
it would mean MM and Wiggly are both lying or for some reason the Host makes Framer also fake visits and there is a second Framer.
On top of this, I would have to throw the book of logic out the window because nothing in this game makes any sense.
wait, why would SoA be cleared specifically by Scotty mafia? didn't SoA risk the 50/50 regardless of Scotty's alignment?
Well I mean logically Mafia would have to be extremely confident in SoA's skills at Rock, Paper, Scissors to willingly force him into a 1v1 with MigthyQ.
but why does Scotty's alignment have any bearing at that?
also TBH i was really confused when the day ended so think confusion about that could've impacted them not self-pressing regardless.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:38 pm
by LinearPoint
alexa wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:37 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:33 pm
alexa wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:32 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:29 pm So if Scotty flips Mafia I think that pretty much clears MM, Wiggly, and SoA.
MM and Wiggly for confirming their roles pretty much and SoA because like I said Mafia would absolutely not risk a 50/50 lynch.

As much as Alexa would like, I don't think it clears her just yet only because Michelle is the one saying she is Town and Michelle could be Mafia though I would still believe both are Town.

If WCS Scotty does flip Town. I have no idea.
it would mean MM and Wiggly are both lying or for some reason the Host makes Framer also fake visits and there is a second Framer.
On top of this, I would have to throw the book of logic out the window because nothing in this game makes any sense.
wait, why would SoA be cleared specifically by Scotty mafia? didn't SoA risk the 50/50 regardless of Scotty's alignment?
Well I mean logically Mafia would have to be extremely confident in SoA's skills at Rock, Paper, Scissors to willingly force him into a 1v1 with MigthyQ.
but why does Scotty's alignment have any bearing at that?
also TBH i was really confused when the day ended so think confusion about that could've impacted them not self-pressing regardless.
Fair, I just think it makes it significantly less likely.
Though I also don't know how often Scotty hard pushes for a Bus day 1.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:39 pm
by NotAnAxehole
alexa wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:36 pm NAA's treatment of Scotty is sketching me out rn.
Vote with me

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:51 pm
by NotAnAxehole
alexa wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:36 pm NAA's treatment of Scotty is sketching me out rn.
I actually don't know why it would sketch you out, all you need to know is that my behavior here, and me pushing for Scotty to stop posting absolutely means we are never partners.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:02 pm
by Paopan
Err... Hi everyone.
NAA is lying. I think he's evil

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:02 pm
by alexa
Paopan wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:02 pm Err... Hi everyone.
NAA is lying. I think he's evil
tell me more

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:04 pm
by LinearPoint
alexa wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:02 pm
Paopan wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:02 pm Err... Hi everyone.
NAA is lying. I think he's evil
tell me more
The context?
There is none.
It never existed.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:04 pm
by alexa
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:04 pm
alexa wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:02 pm
Paopan wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:02 pm Err... Hi everyone.
NAA is lying. I think he's evil
tell me more
The context?
There is none.
It never existed.
huh
i was asking Pao not you
it sounds like they may have some mech info

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:05 pm
by Paopan
I'll read first. Just a min.
To add context.
NAA was not VT.
Feedback confirmed it was a lie.