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Re: Turtles again
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:24 pm
by 112
i'm still thinking falc has to be one of the wolves
would like to see him explain his esooa vote
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:41 am
by Esooa
I guess Epi isn't particularly pushing wolf agenda, if Ted was killed because he scum read Epi while wanting to also use it to push town Delta.
He voted me and questioned someone on why did they vote Delta.
Is he cognizant enough to recognize that the simplest path as a wolf is just kill Ted push Delta?
Idk. He's prob town imo
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:41 am
by Esooa
112 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:24 pm
i'm still thinking falc has to be one of the wolves
would like to see him explain his esooa vote
Yeah, I'm willing to just go Epi town now. Idk about you still. Or Delta. But probably not you so.. maybe Falcon
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:42 am
by Esooa
Wilgy?
I don't think he's done anything great, and idk if I should be convinced by his solving?
But his reasons seem fine enough, his justifications
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:43 am
by Esooa
I'll sheep Tutuu on 112
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:44 am
by Esooa
7 alive
Me, 112, Epi, Wilgy town
Falcon, Delta, Belzy
I'll have to think about Belzy
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:56 am
by 112
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:42 am
Wilgy?
I don't think he's done anything great, and idk if I should be convinced by his solving?
But his reasons seem fine enough, his justifications
i'm also paranoid of wilgy
wasn't particularly satisfied by his comment on falc's d1, too
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:01 am
by Esooa
112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:56 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:42 am
Wilgy?
I don't think he's done anything great, and idk if I should be convinced by his solving?
But his reasons seem fine enough, his justifications
i'm also paranoid of wilgy
wasn't particularly satisfied by his comment on falc's d1, too
Belzy?
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:02 am
by Esooa
why town on Delta?
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:05 am
by 112
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:01 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:56 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:42 am
Wilgy?
I don't think he's done anything great, and idk if I should be convinced by his solving?
But his reasons seem fine enough, his justifications
i'm also paranoid of wilgy
wasn't particularly satisfied by his comment on falc's d1, too
Belzy?
Belzy I can see being a wolf. I'd rank her just above falcon.
I'm thinking something like this right now:
Town
Delta
esooa
Epi
Wilgy
Belzy
falc
Mafia
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:06 am
by Esooa
how am I so high?
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:07 am
by 112
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:02 am
why town on Delta?
i'll re-evaluate but i like his posts and bought his AtE (i think he'd genuinely struggle to highpost this much as a wolf when he's only been playing forum mafia for two months)
there's a little too much o/ and T_T for my liking but if that's the only reason i'd scumread him i probably shouldn't be scumreading him
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:08 am
by Esooa
@Belzy give some reads that aren't sheeping NK/exe imo
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:08 am
by Esooa
112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:07 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:02 am
why town on Delta?
i'll re-evaluate but i like his posts and bought his AtE (i think he'd genuinely struggle to highpost this much as a wolf when he's only been playing forum mafia for two months)
there's a little too much o/ and T_T for my liking but if that's the only reason i'd scumread him i probably shouldn't be scumreading him
Not true, he high posts as a wolf
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:08 am
by 112
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:06 am
how am I so high?
You've made the most sense out of anyone all game

Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:09 am
by Esooa
112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:08 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:06 am
how am I so high?
You've made the most sense out of anyone all game
Wow, I'm trolling though
Good job to me
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:12 am
by 112
idk maybe delta is wolf
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:13 am
by Esooa
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost6955710
delta subs in night 2
posts 170, 21 (quick hammer), 148, 121 times
game ends
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/39696
night 1 delta subs in
posts 157, 149 times
game ends
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:14 am
by Esooa
him not posting today is what makes me think he's town, lol
Also, if I remember his day 1 posting.
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:26 am
by Esooa
Belzy reads towny off a skim, I'm just going to spam things
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:29 am
by Esooa
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:26 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:24 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:19 pm
Do we accept a Xan + Sean team?
\o/
im down
Okay. It's a thought. So if it feels good. Then that's something.
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:54 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:53 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:19 pm
Do we accept a Xan + Sean team?
No.
Me neither. I will look for something else.
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:58 pm
What if Zenon is wolf again?
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:15 pm
I am getting concerned Zenon is wolf again.
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:18 pm
@Delta why were you down with a Xan + Sean team?
towny sequence, world, goes with it, doubts and has a random suspicion on a player it's reasonable to. When they're off that, questions the person who agreed with it. Overall, good flow between things and caring about events (Delta agreeing with them)
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:33 am
by Esooa
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:32 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:25 pm
I gotta admit belzy is pretty surface level towny but i still feel like i should be keeping my vote. Maybe being towny or scummy means nothing in terms of alignments if u think bout it philosophically. Is mafia nothing but a game of pure chance that we delude ourselves into thinking we can skilfully have control over to satisfy our own egos?
Why keep your vote on someone you call towny?
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:22 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:10 am
Im in my tunneling era
Well maybe not tunnel coz im not getting in ppls faces
But i like voting on someone and staying there. Feels comfy. Im gonna be a vote camper
So the tunnel is on me? Someone you agree about is surface level townie and you come with the excuse us not having control over finding town? The weird fukx.
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:23 am
Tutuu is avoiding real wolf hunting. No intention to solve. Maybe my early semi-hunch is right.
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:29 am
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:32 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:25 pm
I gotta admit belzy is pretty surface level towny but i still feel like i should be keeping my vote. Maybe being towny or scummy means nothing in terms of alignments if u think bout it philosophically. Is mafia nothing but a game of pure chance that we delude ourselves into thinking we can skilfully have control over to satisfy our own egos?
Why keep your vote on someone you call towny?
@tutuu
maybe omgus is a bad look, but good question imo. Fair response and @'ing them with the unanswered question seems like they care an okay amount about figuring it out
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:33 am
by Belzy
112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:05 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:01 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:56 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:42 am
Wilgy?
I don't think he's done anything great, and idk if I should be convinced by his solving?
But his reasons seem fine enough, his justifications
i'm also paranoid of wilgy
wasn't particularly satisfied by his comment on falc's d1, too
Belzy?
Belzy I can see being a wolf. I'd rank her just above falcon.
I'm thinking something like this right now:
Town
Delta
esooa
Epi
Wilgy
Belzy
falc
Mafia
Why are Delta and Eso your top town reads, and Wilg's top two scumreads at the same time?
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:35 am
by Esooa
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:33 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:24 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:20 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:19 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:18 pm
@Delta why were you down with a Xan + Sean team?
because they're both sat bottom of my reads list?
What do you make out of Sean's vote on Xan?
think it could be an attempt at distancing?
when asking sean for his reads he reiterated that both his townlean on falcon and scumlean on xan were both weak, could be some thing of 'oh i think my partner is scum but if you give me the chance to back out im going to'
Could be.
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:43 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:40 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:04 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:28 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:20 am
My first impression based last game and Zenon's town games, I think she is town this time. Don't ask me why.
[VOTE:
Belzy] aubergine
You already told us why.
Who the hell are you?
Got that sorted this morning.
You should town it up some more.
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:50 pm
@fingersplints I wanna vote for Epi, but both Epi and Samac are not in the poll.
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:54 pm
Xan + epi is my wolf team rn. But i am still invesgating.
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:25 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:29 am
[VOTE:
Zenon ] aubergine
my gut feeling without re-reading, just voting based on the feelings i remember back when i was skimming
As someone who is considering a Zenon is wolf the sequel as well, can you elobarate on the gut feeling to me? Cuz last night I felt similar to that
Also all seems like fair investigation imo. ~Sorta drops the thought about Zenon, but evidently still has it in their mind so I don't know if I dislike it that much
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:35 am
by Esooa
@Belzy can you link your MU profile/games
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:36 am
by Belzy
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:29 am
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:26 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:24 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:19 pm
Do we accept a Xan + Sean team?
\o/
im down
Okay. It's a thought. So if it feels good. Then that's something.
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:54 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:53 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:19 pm
Do we accept a Xan + Sean team?
No.
Me neither. I will look for something else.
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:58 pm
What if Zenon is wolf again?
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:15 pm
I am getting concerned Zenon is wolf again.
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:18 pm
@Delta why were you down with a Xan + Sean team?
towny sequence, world, goes with it, doubts and has a random suspicion on a player it's reasonable to. When they're off that, questions the person who agreed with it. Overall, good flow between things and caring about events (Delta agreeing with them)
You are actually quoting stuff where Delta didn't look all that townie.
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:36 am
by Belzy
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:35 am
@Belzy can you link your MU profile/games
Internet Cupid
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:08 am
by Esooa
pretty sure Belzy is town
Delta/Falcon/Wilgy PoE
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:09 am
by Esooa
I'm fine voting between Falcon/Wilgy, Delta I can give more time because I believe his WIM can increase
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:24 am
by Belzy
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:09 am
I'm fine voting between Falcon/Wilgy, Delta I can give more time because I believe his WIM can increase
What is a WIM?
Also, we are at day 3. Delta has had plenty of time.
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:25 am
by Delta
112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:07 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:02 am
why town on Delta?
i'll re-evaluate but i like his posts and bought his AtE (i think he'd genuinely struggle to highpost this much as a wolf when he's only been playing forum mafia for two months)
there's a little too much o/ and T_T for my liking but if that's the only reason i'd scumread him i probably shouldn't be scumreading him
highposting is entirely NAI for me
AtE though I just cannot pull off in my wolf games, I'm slightly too detached from them lol
and I will o/ to my heart's content thank you very much
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:26 am
by Delta
i'm kinda split regarding the defense on me here
like
are there wolves trying to mischop me off of xan/tutuu to secure an easy LYLO or is it wolves bringing me along to LYLO to secure an easy win off town paranoia
it's weird. could be a mix? i dunno. the general treatment around my slot is odd though
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:27 am
by Esooa
Well decide imo
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:27 am
by Delta
kinda splits the game in half in doing so where like:
former world is falcon/wilgy/belzy wolves
latter world is esooa/112/epi wolves
and im just the little guy being thrown around in between
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:28 am
by Delta
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:27 amWell decide imo
that's what i want to do within the next few hours hopefully?
will just look over the approaches taken to me specifically and figure out what feels more forced
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:32 am
by Delta
@Esooa what's your take on falcon right now?
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:26 am
by Delta
..or not
D:
get back to me when youre around
i dont like falcon's approach to me considering they've kinda avoided commenting on me all game
& if so i think wilgy's d2 sudden shift on falcon looks kinda weird in hindsight
maybe theres potential there?
especially given wilgy was fine to just call me town prior but comes into today acting like he's had a read on me this whole game
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:29 am
by Delta
[VOTE:
FALCON] aubergine
i think it makes most sense for votes to be split on v!me and v!esooa in a w!falcon world since its either kill me off -> push esooa as tmiing me or kill esooa off -> push me with less resistance
thats how im reading the current gamestate i think
so esooa probably town and we're in a world of the former where wolves need me to drop off to win
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:21 pm
by 112
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:33 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:05 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:01 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:56 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:42 am
Wilgy?
I don't think he's done anything great, and idk if I should be convinced by his solving?
But his reasons seem fine enough, his justifications
i'm also paranoid of wilgy
wasn't particularly satisfied by his comment on falc's d1, too
Belzy?
Belzy I can see being a wolf. I'd rank her just above falcon.
I'm thinking something like this right now:
Town
Delta
esooa
Epi
Wilgy
Belzy
falc
Mafia
Why are Delta and Eso your top town reads, and Wilg's top two scumreads at the same time?
i'm not wilgy
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:32 pm
by Esooa
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:27 am
kinda splits the game in half in doing so where like:
former world is falcon/wilgy/belzy wolves
latter world is esooa/112/epi wolves
and im just the little guy being thrown around in between
How is epi me a thing lol
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:37 pm
by Esooa
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:32 am
@Esooa what's your take on falcon right now?
Wolfy
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:54 pm
by Delta
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:32 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:27 am
kinda splits the game in half in doing so where like:
former world is falcon/wilgy/belzy wolves
latter world is esooa/112/epi wolves
and im just the little guy being thrown around in between
How is epi me a thing lol
i mean if its 2 wolves it shouldnt be, could be like 112/epi or you/112
if its 3 well then fuck me i am just lamb to the slaughter rn
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:55 pm
by Esooa
Random world building doesn't help me as much as your actual reads on players
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:24 pm
by Delta
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:55 pm
Random world building doesn't help me as much as your actual reads on players
based on that world building my reads are kinda structured
so like
TOWN
112
esooa
epi
belzy
drwilgy
falcon
WOLVES
there's the potential that there's a wolf in each group i gave? but that's something i want to tackle after a wolf flip. is there anyone in particular you want a read on?
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:06 pm
by Delta
or maybe i'll shout to the void instead D:
its alright
i'll just waddle around and try solve what i can in this last hour
try come to something that feels comfortable
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:12 pm
by Esooa
That's also not reads on players lol
That's names in some kinda order
You have to have reasons for why each person is there or it's gibberish to me
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:12 pm
by Esooa
@112 save your towny girl (me) and vote falcon
@Belzy you too
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:13 pm
by Delta
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:12 pm
That's also not reads on players lol
That's names in some kinda order
You have to have reasons for why each person is there or it's gibberish to me
kinda what im working on here in the background while waiting on people to pop up
is there any particular one you want first or am i alright to just work on a full list
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:14 pm
by Esooa
You should just say what's important to you
Re: Turtles again
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:14 pm
by Esooa
Reads list are a hoax, you learn that the more you play mafia
You should Hydra with me, I have much to teach. It's fun. You could be very good considering you're already decent