The Syndicate

Russtifinko wrote:

Lizzy wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Anyone wanna change their votes?

Linki: S~V~S. So you do think boo had info? That's news to me, as is stealing books and the idea that books are actually useful for this stuff.

And as I said, I'm not convinced you;re bad yet, S~V~S. It's just been something in the back of my mind, and we're running low on other candidates. As you can see, though, I didn't vote you.

You know that if she gets lynched and is bad, you're next.

... if not, I am

Who, S~V~S? Oh, because I didn't follow the bloc? Well, fair enough I suppose. She's right, I've been more or less saying she's civ all game. I promise we're not baddie teammates, though.

SUPER DUPER ULTRA MEGA INTENSE MIND-BLOWING LINKI

And what if she gets lynched and is civ? And she IS

Next game I host i may go back to the old school rule that you have to post and bold your vote to eliminate drive by votes. they are not agaist the rules, but people voting without even posting or saying anything you can refute is incredibly unfair and poor sportsmanship, imo.

Linki, you have seen my bad game up close more than anyone here, Bullz. And you know that this is not it.

Russtifinko wrote:

Lizzy wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Anyone wanna change their votes?

Linki: S~V~S. So you do think boo had info? That's news to me, as is stealing books and the idea that books are actually useful for this stuff.

And as I said, I'm not convinced you;re bad yet, S~V~S. It's just been something in the back of my mind, and we're running low on other candidates. As you can see, though, I didn't vote you.

You know that if she gets lynched and is bad, you're next.

... if not, I am

Who, S~V~S? Oh, because I didn't follow the bloc? Well, fair enough I suppose. She's right, I've been more or less saying she's civ all game. I promise we're not baddie teammates, though.

SUPER DUPER ULTRA MEGA INTENSE MIND-BLOWING LINKI

You just wasted a vote. MR was not an option, not at the last minute anyway. Nice way of avoiding accountability.

Mister Rearranger wrote:Russ and Bullz: did you use any cigs today?

No, smoking is bad! If I had some (which I may or may not do) I'd save myself with them.

Linki: Kinda agree with Lizzy there.

Lizzy wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:

Lizzy wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Anyone wanna change their votes?

Linki: S~V~S. So you do think boo had info? That's news to me, as is stealing books and the idea that books are actually useful for this stuff.

And as I said, I'm not convinced you;re bad yet, S~V~S. It's just been something in the back of my mind, and we're running low on other candidates. As you can see, though, I didn't vote you.

You know that if she gets lynched and is bad, you're next.

... if not, I am

Who, S~V~S? Oh, because I didn't follow the bloc? Well, fair enough I suppose. She's right, I've been more or less saying she's civ all game. I promise we're not baddie teammates, though.

SUPER DUPER ULTRA MEGA INTENSE MIND-BLOWING LINKI

You just wasted a vote. MR was not an option, not at the last minute anyway. Nice way of avoiding accountability.

yeah, even i agree with this, lol~

S~V~S wrote:
Next game I host i may go back to the old school rule that you have to post and bold your vote to eliminate drive by votes. they are not agaist the rules, but people voting without even posting or saying anything you can refute is incredibly unfair and poor sportsmanship, imo.

It's a bit more intense this way. I played as a newbie on a different forum and they were unable to add new polls to threads. I talked about this a bit during Liar's Club 2. So, we HAD to post our votes in bold. And not only that, we could change them at will or leave them with other players too. It was a really different experience.

FZ. wrote:Anyone wants some popcorn to pass the time? I have to say this shindig is not as fun when you're dead

I'll have some. I have to say, I think you guys have a better view than most of us still playing.

Who will be lynched?

Poll ended at Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:31 pm

A Person
0
No votes

birdwithteeth11
1
johns2jj (5)
9%

Bullzeye
0
No votes

Dom
0
No votes

johns2jj
3
Dom (3), S~V~S (6), Mister Rearranger (11)
27%

Lizzy
0
No votes

Mister Rearranger
1
Russtifinko (9)
9%

Russtifikno
0
No votes

S~V~S
3
Lizzy (7), A Person (8), Bullzeye (10)
27%

Edmond Dantès (The Host, the Mod, the Dead)
3
Epignosis (1), thellama73 (2), Sorsha (4)
27%


Total votes : 11

Bullzeye wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:Russ and Bullz: did you use any cigs today?

No, smoking is bad! If I had some (which I may or may not do) I'd save myself with them.

Linki: Kinda agree with Lizzy there.

I'm not sure we're allowed to discuss this.

And Lizzy: You can say that, but I clearly explained my vote and the reason, and I decided I didn't feel great about the other 2 options I was presented with. I even asked people to switch, though I realize we were short on time by that point. I'd rather make a vote that doesn't decide a lynch outcome than one I can't justify to myself, and if my role guesses are right the lynch was decided without me either way.

Interesting how mad some people are that I didn't join their sides in this vote. I'm starting to wonder if certain people are steering lynches, and if they're mad I didn't blindly follow along.

Bullzeye wrote: No, smoking is bad!

Mister Rearranger wrote:

S~V~S wrote:
Next game I host i may go back to the old school rule that you have to post and bold your vote to eliminate drive by votes. they are not agaist the rules, but people voting without even posting or saying anything you can refute is incredibly unfair and poor sportsmanship, imo.

It's a bit more intense this way. I played as a newbie on a different forum and they were unable to add new polls to threads. I talked about this a bit during Liar's Club 2. So, we HAD to post our votes in bold. And not only that, we could change them at will or leave them with other players too. It was a really different experience.

It is, it is kinda like that at KSite but with no polls, you had to look for the hosts vote tally posts. But drive by votes with nothing to refute are really not fair, and are just poor sportmanship IMO. I guess I have antiquated ideas of what is and is not fair in mafia~ based on where I learned to play. Even with the polls, at LP some hosts required a posted bold, and people get lynched for making drive bys, or voting without a reason. No accountability, and it allows no recourse to the person voted for without it looking like "No U". Not sporting, I guess, is the best way to describe it.

Linki~ Ya think, russti? lol

Russtifinko wrote: I'm not sure we're allowed to discuss this.

Lol, I didn't think people would respond in seriousness. If anyone (including Epi) took it that way, I apologize.

Russtifinko wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:Russ and Bullz: did you use any cigs today?

No, smoking is bad! If I had some (which I may or may not do) I'd save myself with them.

Linki: Kinda agree with Lizzy there.

I'm not sure we're allowed to discuss this.

And Lizzy: You can say that, but I clearly explained my vote and the reason, and I decided I didn't feel great about the other 2 options I was presented with. I even asked people to switch, though I realize we were short on time by that point. I'd rather make a vote that doesn't decide a lynch outcome than one I can't justify to myself, and if my role guesses are right the lynch was decided without me either way.

Interesting how mad some people are that I didn't join their sides in this vote. I'm starting to wonder if certain people are steering lynches, and if they're mad I didn't blindly follow along.

Ahhhh... perspective. You waited till the last minute to waste a vote. That still stands. If jjjjjjj is lynched and is civ, yay you! If SVS is lynched and is civ, yay you! If it's a tie, yay you! Yay you!

Lizzy wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:Russ and Bullz: did you use any cigs today?

No, smoking is bad! If I had some (which I may or may not do) I'd save myself with them.

Linki: Kinda agree with Lizzy there.

I'm not sure we're allowed to discuss this.

And Lizzy: You can say that, but I clearly explained my vote and the reason, and I decided I didn't feel great about the other 2 options I was presented with. I even asked people to switch, though I realize we were short on time by that point. I'd rather make a vote that doesn't decide a lynch outcome than one I can't justify to myself, and if my role guesses are right the lynch was decided without me either way.

Interesting how mad some people are that I didn't join their sides in this vote. I'm starting to wonder if certain people are steering lynches, and if they're mad I didn't blindly follow along.

Ahhhh... perspective. You waited till the last minute to waste a vote. That still stands. If jjjjjjj is lynched and is civ, yay you! If SVS is lynched and is civ, yay you! If it's a tie, yay you! Yay you!

You and i should have gotten past that silly tiff earlier in this game and started talking, not threatening each other. i will never underestimate you again.

This is the civviest thing i have seen this entire game from anyone.

smoking is icky

S~V~S wrote:

Lizzy wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:Russ and Bullz: did you use any cigs today?

No, smoking is bad! If I had some (which I may or may not do) I'd save myself with them.

Linki: Kinda agree with Lizzy there.

I'm not sure we're allowed to discuss this.

And Lizzy: You can say that, but I clearly explained my vote and the reason, and I decided I didn't feel great about the other 2 options I was presented with. I even asked people to switch, though I realize we were short on time by that point. I'd rather make a vote that doesn't decide a lynch outcome than one I can't justify to myself, and if my role guesses are right the lynch was decided without me either way.

Interesting how mad some people are that I didn't join their sides in this vote. I'm starting to wonder if certain people are steering lynches, and if they're mad I didn't blindly follow along.

Ahhhh... perspective. You waited till the last minute to waste a vote. That still stands. If jjjjjjj is lynched and is civ, yay you! If SVS is lynched and is civ, yay you! If it's a tie, yay you! Yay you!

You and i should have gotten past that silly tiff earlier in this game and started talking, not threatening each other. i will never underestimate you again.

This is the civviest thing i have seen this entire game from anyone.

And you're trying to get me NK'd. I like you. :P

S~V~S wrote:

Lizzy wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:Russ and Bullz: did you use any cigs today?

No, smoking is bad! If I had some (which I may or may not do) I'd save myself with them.

Linki: Kinda agree with Lizzy there.

I'm not sure we're allowed to discuss this.

And Lizzy: You can say that, but I clearly explained my vote and the reason, and I decided I didn't feel great about the other 2 options I was presented with. I even asked people to switch, though I realize we were short on time by that point. I'd rather make a vote that doesn't decide a lynch outcome than one I can't justify to myself, and if my role guesses are right the lynch was decided without me either way.

Interesting how mad some people are that I didn't join their sides in this vote. I'm starting to wonder if certain people are steering lynches, and if they're mad I didn't blindly follow along.

Ahhhh... perspective. You waited till the last minute to waste a vote. That still stands. If jjjjjjj is lynched and is civ, yay you! If SVS is lynched and is civ, yay you! If it's a tie, yay you! Yay you!

You and i should have gotten past that silly tiff earlier in this game and started talking, not threatening each other. i will never underestimate you again.

This is the civviest thing i have seen this entire game from anyone.

And if one of them is lynched and flips bad, when I could've decided it, very much not yay me.

But whatever, if i must die for the capital crime of having voted MR, so be it.

S~V~S wrote: It is, it is kinda like that at KSite but with no polls, you had to look for the hosts vote tally posts. But drive by votes with nothing to refute are really not fair, and are just poor sportmanship IMO. I guess I have antiquated ideas of what is and is not fair in mafia~ based on where I learned to play. Even with the polls, at LP some hosts required a posted bold, and people get lynched for making drive bys, or voting without a reason. No accountability, and it allows no recourse to the person voted for without it looking like "No U". Not sporting, I guess, is the best way to describe it.

Yeah, I feel ya on that. It does seem like the past few games I've played are a very different breed of it. Bree got frustrated at similar things during The Island, and just overall lack of case-building needed to lynch someone in general.

linki @Russ: Well, at least you acknowledge that it's a capital crime.

No I really am not, Lizzy, if the Staff really is gone, the Sisters know who is "not them".

Russtifinko wrote:
And if one of them is lynched and flips bad, when I could've decided it, very much not yay me.

But whatever, if i must die for the capital crime of having voted MR, so be it.

If SVS flips baddie, somewhat yay you, because you took her in account. Nay you if jjjjjj is bad. But on average, yay you!

Lizzy wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:
And if one of them is lynched and flips bad, when I could've decided it, very much not yay me.

But whatever, if i must die for the capital crime of having voted MR, so be it.

If SVS flips baddie, somewhat yay you, because you took her in account. Nay you if jjjjjj is bad. But on average, yay you!

And she won't flip baddie~ trust me here, i know

S~V~S wrote:No I really am not, Lizzy, if the Staff really is gone, the Sisters know who is "not them".

It's not about that and you know it. What use am I to them if I'm a confirmed civ?

Lizzy wrote:

S~V~S wrote:No I really am not, Lizzy, if the Staff really is gone, the Sisters know who is "not them".

It's not about that and you know it. What use am I to them if I'm a confirmed civ?

This is not a confirmation~ you being lynched, shown to be a civ role, and then being rezzed means "confirmed". You having a civ BTS partner who keeps saying they "know" you are civ, then being lynched is *almost* confirmed.

Me saying that something that you said is the most civvie thing i have heard is NOT confirmed. But interesting that you think i am bad, yet need to label you as a baddie in the thread. Do you reallllly think i am bad?

Nah! I randomised.

I've never had anybody put anything in my mouth I didn't want.

My father (so I'm told- I've never met him) gifted me with a stature that made people think twice about fucking with me. I told you I was big. I like to think I can pass that good fortune on to some of the smaller guys in the prison who don't mean any harm to anyone, just want to do their time in peace and not want to be anyone's footstool or piece of ass. I get that. So from time to time I look after certain guys who could use a friend- a real friend. I don't do it for everybody. Like everything good around here- loyalty, valuables, hope- I'm scarce. I can't save the world, even if my world is in here.

I've been looking after someone. He's relatively new here and has a good sense of humor, despite the place. He used to steal jewelry, but swears that his thieving days are behind him. He wants to get out and find a girl and start a family. I can admire that.

A few weeks after he arrived, that prick johns2jj came up to him and tried to get him to get on his knees and open his mouth. I didn't like that very much, as you might imagine.

Once in awhile, the colossal pricks that run this joint can seem downright magnanimous.

They offered a couple of beers to any inmate who'd been well behaved. Something to celebrate the holidays with if you've been nice instead of naughty. Different kinds of beer too. I sure enjoyed mine.

What two beers did you have?

Fucking A

Lizzy wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:
And if one of them is lynched and flips bad, when I could've decided it, very much not yay me.

But whatever, if i must die for the capital crime of having voted MR, so be it.

If SVS flips baddie, somewhat yay you, because you took her in account. Nay you if jjjjjj is bad. But on average, yay you!

Lolz.....So Lizzy, about my vote being good for me no matter what....

Well, bugger me sideways! SVS, sorries!

Russti, sorries to you too, you're no longer the most amazing baddie I've ever seen. I'll start a JjjjjJjjj fanclub! WOW!

S~V~S, does this mean you;re sad you survived and we got a baddie? That's....confusing.

And it's ok Lizzy, I'll take being a bad civvie over a good baddie any day.

I voted the 2 best kinds of beer. Bye for now, everyone!

Russtifinko wrote:And it's ok Lizzy, I'll take being a bad civvie over a good baddie any day.

This is absolutely fantastic! You know what else would be fantastic? SVS being a baddie too.

Russtifinko wrote:S~V~S, does this mean you;re sad you survived and we got a baddie? That's....confusing.

"Fucking A" is Brooklyn (and i am from canarsie, concrete blossom of that fair borough) for "Oh Goodie" Or "Hooray".

It means "WOOT"

Great result

I'm not really a beer fan (West Country cider all the way!) so I'll just pick two at random and hope for the best.

I hate beer! I had mostly Oirish whisky and some not very fancy champagne. :\

Nice! Beer to celebrate? I like this game.

Sidenote: I just went to our region's new World of Beers last night.

I never much liked beer, but my husband was a major conoisseur, so i will pick stout & rye, his faves.

Lizzy wrote:I hate beer! I had mostly Oirish whisky and some not very fancy champagne. :\

Not very fancy champagne is good as long as you think of it as grape flavored alcoholic pop

For tomorrow, other than the suspicion of John, I would like to know the salient points in the case against me.

I also would like to hear about why John was so NOT suspicious that a vote for him=instant votes for those who vote for him. Also what I missed in his past games that might have led someone to that conclusion. Oh wait, he had no past games. Hmmm.

Also i am curious about why thinking Sorshas kill was weird, and explaining it after being asked was so suspicious. I most def want to hear about this. Also curious why just I was suspicious for this, not the others who discussed it. Just me.

Holy last ditch to save a teammate there, guys. SVS, glad to see you around.

S~V~S wrote:
It is, it is kinda like that at KSite but with no polls, you had to look for the hosts vote tally posts. But drive by votes with nothing to refute are really not fair, and are just poor sportmanship IMO. I guess I have antiquated ideas of what is and is not fair in mafia~ based on where I learned to play. Even with the polls, at LP some hosts required a posted bold, and people get lynched for making drive bys, or voting without a reason. No accountability, and it allows no recourse to the person voted for without it looking like "No U". Not sporting, I guess, is the best way to describe it.

A++++++++++++++

I don't really dig bear (more of a Vodka and Rum guy), so I'll be going with two random ones I pick which are Lager and Blonde Ale

da fuck lizzy?

johns2jj wrote:wow I'm surprised how many days I survived after being outed. This was fun and a good learning experience. Till next time.

You were stupendous! Had you lived longer I still would have defended you to the very end (mine or yours). Honestly, I'm kinda sad you had to die now. It would have been great to be unmasked at the end of the game. I think I'm in love...

Ahem! So who were you working for? Who was the mastermind behind this? Speak! *slap*

Dom wrote:da fuck lizzy?

Da fuck why I still defended jjjjjjjjj? Da fuck I still think SVS is the criminal mastermind of this game (if it's someone else, sorry )? Da fuck why you chose the same options I did? or da fuck lizzy in general? I more used to the latter k.

Lizzy, in your picking random posts to reply to you kinda missed this one, the last part is aimed at Bullz but the first two are for you.

S~V~S wrote:For tomorrow, other than the suspicion of John, I would like to know the salient points in the case against me.

I also would like to hear about why John was so NOT suspicious that a vote for him=instant votes for those who vote for him. Also what I missed in his past games that might have led someone to that conclusion. Oh wait, he had no past games. Hmmm.

Also i am curious about why thinking Sorshas kill was weird, and explaining it after being asked was so suspicious. I most def want to hear about this. Also curious why just I was suspicious for this, not the others who discussed it. Just me.

Lizzy wrote:

johns2jj wrote:wow I'm surprised how many days I survived after being outed. This was fun and a good learning experience. Till next time.

You were stupendous! Had you lived longer I still would have defended you to the very end (mine or yours). Honestly, I'm kinda sad you had to die now. It would have been great to be unmasked at the end of the game. I think I'm in love...

Ahem! So who were you working for? Who was the mastermind behind this? Speak! *slap*

Dom wrote:da fuck lizzy?

Da fuck why I still defended jjjjjjjjj? Da fuck I still think SVS is the criminal mastermind of this game (if it's someone else, sorry )? Da fuck why you chose the same options I did? or da fuck lizzy in general? I more used to the latter k.

Da faq with the options.

But I still don't understand any of your other reasonsings either. So there's that.

S~V~S wrote:For tomorrow, other than the suspicion of John, I would like to know the salient points in the case against me.

I also would like to hear about why John was so NOT suspicious that a vote for him=instant votes for those who vote for him. Also what I missed in his past games that might have led someone to that conclusion. Oh wait, he had no past games. Hmmm.

Also i am curious about why thinking Sorshas kill was weird, and explaining it after being asked was so suspicious. I most def want to hear about this. Also curious why just I was suspicious for this, not the others who discussed it. Just me.

It wasn't just that you thought it was weird, it was this post:

S~V~S wrote:Actually that is where i had her, too, tentatively. I guess it is a culture thing~ where I learned to play it is considered bad form to NK other baddies, rude if you will. So it surprises me when people do it. But I know people who started playing here tend to think differently about that, and even though i know it, it still surprises me when it is done.

Not only have I not heard of that being a thing on LP (Granted I only really played the last four games before it faded into irrelevance), but it just didn't seem right. You seemed like you were really trying to distance yourself from the whole thing, making it seem like something you would absolutely never do and therefore you clearly had nothing to do with it. For instance, you talk about how it's almost rude to kill baddies - though I don't think you'd said much about Sorsha until then, and nor had anyone else. Plus how does one baddie team know who's on the other? They tend to just kill indiscriminately and only avoid people who will probably get lynched. I didn't really have time to go into depth at the time, MR had convinced me to look at you and I didn't really have the amount of time I took to do that. Hence why I voted before posting. If I'd done it the other way round I'd have missed the deadline and I hate to do that. I've missed about five votes ever and always feel bad about doing

I am sorry you have not heard of this. Ask Tranq why don't you, he read me the riot act in s game at TP for something similar. Ask a lot of people, not just me.

Tell me, which baddie do you think I am, and why did you think I was bad and John was not?