Re: Tree Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:08 pm
Why are you asking me to elaborate on something I already commented on (and linked to you just a few hours ago)?
sig, this was your first post after replacing in. If you had to name your top three suspects now, who would they be and why?sig wrote:SO hello hello I have an epicly (is that a word) big post since I'm FZ and have the role info ignore me saying FZ is bad I'm not going through my post to edit it since it isright know 15 pages long with 6 more in game pages to go. I will summarize it of course and a good portion is quotes, but I think i've got the scum team down, getting FZ role is acutully very helpful orginally I was thinking JJJ/FZ/Diiny with FZ gone either Mac/Floyd/Motel
Of course not. You, Mac, and Diiny, right?MovingPictures07 wrote:If I could lynch one player right now, I think it'd be sig. I'm going to ISO him right now though; I've lost interest in Mac. I do not want to lynch Mac today.
Because I don't fully understand your train of thought.Epignosis wrote:Why are you asking me to elaborate on something I already commented on (and linked to you just a few hours ago)?
You say that you struggle how he would continue to do that, but the only reasons you provide are:Epignosis wrote: On two of three occasions, MP and MacDougall both voted in a way that could keep Diiny from being lynched.
Ordinarily, one might think Mafia MP would throw Diiny under the bus, but without knowing the state of the existence of a doctor, the Mafia would surmise that lynching 3J would put them on the fast track to the final stage.
Four confirmed civilians have voted Diiny over the span of three Days.
TheFloyd73 has voted Diiny early every Day. I am struggling to understand how Floyd, with a team, would continue to do that- because if we're going by Talking Heads, I did not see that kind of voting from him. For that reason, and the fact that 3J ended up civilian, I don't see Floyd being on a team. I see him coasting in a genuine manner.
More later. Supper and band practice now.
Sell me on Mac then, if you think he is the best way to go. I'm listening, but I see his Day 1-2 content and I don't see a mafia member.Epignosis wrote:Of course not. You, Mac, and Diiny, right?MovingPictures07 wrote:If I could lynch one player right now, I think it'd be sig. I'm going to ISO him right now though; I've lost interest in Mac. I do not want to lynch Mac today.
sig, what do you think of Floyd now? I don't recall seeing you pursue suspicion of him.sig wrote:Quick thought Mac is calling Floyd inexperienced, I disagree compared to some of you yes, but if we are comparing like that then I'm also inexperenced and should be able to get out of lynched/posting. He has played what four games know? Two as scum I believe? If this is the case then he has two game including his first with more experienced players to help him and answer questions and then another scum game same thing and two civ games. No cutting slack for the "nooby" especially since this isn't game 1 for him. Also for the BTSC thought ik this for afact since my first game I was a lover and having a chat was helpful and I'd think a mafia chat was extra helpful since more then one player to help you and have a vested interest in you.
So: You don't suspect Mac. You don't suspect Diiny. You don't suspect Floyd.MovingPictures07 wrote:Sell me on Mac then, if you think he is the best way to go. I'm listening, but I see his Day 1-2 content and I don't see a mafia member.Epignosis wrote:Of course not. You, Mac, and Diiny, right?MovingPictures07 wrote:If I could lynch one player right now, I think it'd be sig. I'm going to ISO him right now though; I've lost interest in Mac. I do not want to lynch Mac today.
And no, nice try, I'm civilian.
That's... not how it works.Epignosis wrote:So: You don't suspect Mac. You don't suspect Diiny. You don't suspect Floyd.MovingPictures07 wrote:Sell me on Mac then, if you think he is the best way to go. I'm listening, but I see his Day 1-2 content and I don't see a mafia member.Epignosis wrote:Of course not. You, Mac, and Diiny, right?MovingPictures07 wrote:If I could lynch one player right now, I think it'd be sig. I'm going to ISO him right now though; I've lost interest in Mac. I do not want to lynch Mac today.
And no, nice try, I'm civilian.
Presumably you don't suspect yourself.
Congratulations! You have the Mafia team figured out!![]()
Mafia is not black and white. It's not as if I'm 100% clearing anyone if I "don't suspect" them. I suspect everyone to varying degrees, but I suspect Mac the least, and therefore am not endorsing his lynch at the moment.Epignosis wrote:How's it work?
sig, can you update this list for me?sig wrote:quotes got all messed upsome of myresponses are in quotes?
So top scum reads
JJJ
Floyd
Scum Lean
Mac
Diiny
Zebra
Civ lean
Epi
In your chat room?MovingPictures07 wrote:For the love of god, where is everyone?
That's what I'm asking in another game. Two actually.MovingPictures07 wrote:For the love of god, where is everyone?
I wish I had a chatroom.Epignosis wrote:In your chat room?MovingPictures07 wrote:For the love of god, where is everyone?
Oh wait its day nvm
He's the one I'm most sure is scum, he's obviously avoiding confrontation, refusing to elaborate on reads and I don't see a townie reason for him to be doing that at lylo. I'm aware he's a new player and claims inconfidence but there's no reason not to answer a basic question that everyone wants you to answer unless you don't want town to win. I don't and can't see anyone who wants town to win when I read his PH.MovingPictures07 wrote:Diiny, talk to me about why we should lynch Floyd over anyone else.
About damn time.Diiny wrote:He's the one I'm most sure is scum, he's obviously avoiding confrontation, refusing to elaborate on reads and I don't see a townie reason for him to be doing that at lylo. I'm aware he's a new player and claims inconfidence but there's no reason not to answer a basic question that everyone wants you to answer unless you don't want town to win. I don't and can't see anyone who wants town to win when I read his PH.MovingPictures07 wrote:Diiny, talk to me about why we should lynch Floyd over anyone else.
I'm responding to things as I go through the thread, I was skimmed through whilst playing bloodborne earlier
Do you feel as though you could be biased because you're the one he's continually voting with little substantiation?Diiny wrote:He's the one I'm most sure is scum, he's obviously avoiding confrontation, refusing to elaborate on reads and I don't see a townie reason for him to be doing that at lylo. I'm aware he's a new player and claims inconfidence but there's no reason not to answer a basic question that everyone wants you to answer unless you don't want town to win. I don't and can't see anyone who wants town to win when I read his PH.MovingPictures07 wrote:Diiny, talk to me about why we should lynch Floyd over anyone else.
I'm responding to things as I go through the thread, I was skimmed through whilst playing bloodborne earlier
What does cfd mean? You have no excuse not to look at everyone on lylo tbhsig wrote:MP voted for me, I'm going to revert to my tried and true baddie hunting strategy.
The first person to push my lynch/vote for me is scum.
So who wants to cfd MP with me?
thank god. still though why not anyone else?sig wrote:On a more serious note I'll read over MPand Epi.
CFD = Chinese fire drill, it means a mass moving of votes to one player without much prior precedent.Diiny wrote:What does cfd mean? You have no excuse not to look at everyone on lylo tbhsig wrote:MP voted for me, I'm going to revert to my tried and true baddie hunting strategy.
The first person to push my lynch/vote for me is scum.
So who wants to cfd MP with me?
linki: he could've tunneled anyone else incessantly and without explanation and I'd feel similarly. Obviously can't account for UNDERLYING SUBCONSCIOUS FACTORS but it's bad regardless who he tunneled.
Total civilian behavior.MovingPictures07 wrote:CFD = Chinese fire drill, it means a mass moving of votes to one player without much prior precedent.
I know, right? They should name it TCB.Epignosis wrote:Total civilian behavior.MovingPictures07 wrote:CFD = Chinese fire drill, it means a mass moving of votes to one player without much prior precedent.![]()
Well, I feel pretty nervous about this potential result then, because I think it would be a mislynch.Epignosis wrote:Still not moving my vote.
My stance on you is you're bad and should be eliminated now. I think I've said that a few times.Diiny wrote:I've just gone through the chat epi and MP had and I I feel like epi asks questions for the hell of it rather than to push/bait/get a read on MP.
Epi, I think you understand that because you think someone's town it doesn't mean their reads are correct. I think you also understood that MP understood that. That's just one of the questions that felt forced to me and the importance of which I don't particularly understand. Also, epi, you still haven't elaborated on your stance for me. Why not?
linki: it would be a mislynch.
his apology seems legit too.motel room wrote:I dunno, I think Mac's town. That bit before where he was concerned about my "shenanigans" voting off-bandwagon when he thought there was less than an hour left doesn't seem like something a scum would be concerned about. and I think it seemed legit, not staged.
why am I bad epiEpignosis wrote:My stance on you is you're bad and should be eliminated now. I think I've said that a few times.Diiny wrote:I've just gone through the chat epi and MP had and I I feel like epi asks questions for the hell of it rather than to push/bait/get a read on MP.
Epi, I think you understand that because you think someone's town it doesn't mean their reads are correct. I think you also understood that MP understood that. That's just one of the questions that felt forced to me and the importance of which I don't particularly understand. Also, epi, you still haven't elaborated on your stance for me. Why not?
linki: it would be a mislynch.
Because somebody has to be.Diiny wrote:why am I bad epiEpignosis wrote:My stance on you is you're bad and should be eliminated now. I think I've said that a few times.Diiny wrote:I've just gone through the chat epi and MP had and I I feel like epi asks questions for the hell of it rather than to push/bait/get a read on MP.
Epi, I think you understand that because you think someone's town it doesn't mean their reads are correct. I think you also understood that MP understood that. That's just one of the questions that felt forced to me and the importance of which I don't particularly understand. Also, epi, you still haven't elaborated on your stance for me. Why not?
linki: it would be a mislynch.
Why am I more likely to be, and why are you being coy at lylo.Epignosis wrote:Because somebody has to be.Diiny wrote:why am I bad epiEpignosis wrote:My stance on you is you're bad and should be eliminated now. I think I've said that a few times.Diiny wrote:I've just gone through the chat epi and MP had and I I feel like epi asks questions for the hell of it rather than to push/bait/get a read on MP.
Epi, I think you understand that because you think someone's town it doesn't mean their reads are correct. I think you also understood that MP understood that. That's just one of the questions that felt forced to me and the importance of which I don't particularly understand. Also, epi, you still haven't elaborated on your stance for me. Why not?
linki: it would be a mislynch.
Diiny wrote:What prevented you from thinking that floyd was 'coasting in a genuine manner' when you saw him as scummy enough that you were demanding his lynch exclusively? Floyd's votes last game weren't anything to write home about either. He had a team then. They weren't as disgustingly tunnely but they were just as shallow and meaningless.
motel room wrote:Because of his flip. i'm worried that if Diiny ends up being town the fake votes today would surely be directed at him and an out of nowhere reversal in that direction with not much to back it up is that, spot on.MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm ISOing Epi. What does that have to do with my feelings for you?motel room wrote:that was then, this is now. And I see you've put some work into casing Epi too so are you even suss of me for where my vote is right now?MovingPictures07 wrote:If this is the case, then why isn't motel room voting for Diiny right now, and why for his 3rd top read?motel room wrote:there's a lot of little separate shit going on that I want to get my head around but I'm somewhere like this right now:
MacDougall
MovingPictures07
Epignosis
sig
a2thezebra
TheFloyd73
JaggedJimmyJay
Diiny
Yes, I'm suspicious of it.
Can you provide a new reads list? Or, if not, would you mind telling me what has changed between then and now which has caused your flip in opinion on Diiny versus Epi?
Who would you ideally like to lynch today and why?
You've been saved twice. Four civilians voted you in the span of three Days. I'm honoring the wishes of the dead in hope that I'm not the only civilian dumbass this time around.Diiny wrote:Why am I more likely to be, and why are you being coy at lylo.Epignosis wrote:Because somebody has to be.Diiny wrote:why am I bad epiEpignosis wrote:My stance on you is you're bad and should be eliminated now. I think I've said that a few times.Diiny wrote:I've just gone through the chat epi and MP had and I I feel like epi asks questions for the hell of it rather than to push/bait/get a read on MP.
Epi, I think you understand that because you think someone's town it doesn't mean their reads are correct. I think you also understood that MP understood that. That's just one of the questions that felt forced to me and the importance of which I don't particularly understand. Also, epi, you still haven't elaborated on your stance for me. Why not?
linki: it would be a mislynch.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:As a reminder, votes are still changeable today, because this is not a LYLO situation.
When did you decide you didn't like sig's crowd pleasing behaviour anymore?MovingPictures07 wrote: ...I still suspect sig because I suspected FZ. (though sig has warranted some movement up the list)
You're voting at a stage where a mislynch could very well seal the fate of town based off of the fact that other people voted for me that have now flipped civ alone? Townies can be wrong. Townies have been wrong about me. You've been wrong this game, and you're claiming you're town.Epignosis wrote:You've been saved twice. Four civilians voted you in the span of three Days. I'm honoring the wishes of the dead in hope that I'm not the only civilian dumbass this time around.Diiny wrote:Why am I more likely to be, and why are you being coy at lylo.Epignosis wrote:Because somebody has to be.Diiny wrote:why am I bad epiEpignosis wrote:My stance on you is you're bad and should be eliminated now. I think I've said that a few times.Diiny wrote:I've just gone through the chat epi and MP had and I I feel like epi asks questions for the hell of it rather than to push/bait/get a read on MP.
Epi, I think you understand that because you think someone's town it doesn't mean their reads are correct. I think you also understood that MP understood that. That's just one of the questions that felt forced to me and the importance of which I don't particularly understand. Also, epi, you still haven't elaborated on your stance for me. Why not?
linki: it would be a mislynch.![]()
And stop saying "lylo." Not only is it a silly word, but
Epi.MovingPictures07 wrote:Diiny, let's say Floyd was off the poll. Then who would you like to lynch?
I'd like to point out that JJJ saved me and flipped town. and notice how I'm not claiming that you should read me as town because he did and was confirmed scum.Epignosis wrote:
You've been saved twice.
You realize that you're playing right into the mafia's hands if Diiny is town, right?Epignosis wrote:You've been saved twice. Four civilians voted you in the span of three Days. I'm honoring the wishes of the dead in hope that I'm not the only civilian dumbass this time around.![]()
I don't know what to think of it. He seemed to be genuinely hunting, but his Day 4 contributions have been tenuous, and the more I mull over it, the more I think he could have easily fabricated much of that content (which was based more on OTHERS' behavior than JJJ's) to get JJJ lynched.Diiny wrote:When did you decide you didn't like sig's crowd pleasing behaviour anymore?MovingPictures07 wrote: ...I still suspect sig because I suspected FZ. (though sig has warranted some movement up the list)
Why do you ask this without having anything on him yourself?sig wrote: What does everyone think of Epi?
Your vote is on the guy.MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't know what to think of it. He seemed to be genuinely hunting, but his Day 4 contributions have been tenuous, and the more I mull over it, the more I think he could have easily fabricated much of that content (which was based more on OTHERS' behavior than JJJ's) to get JJJ lynched.Diiny wrote:When did you decide you didn't like sig's crowd pleasing behaviour anymore?MovingPictures07 wrote: ...I still suspect sig because I suspected FZ. (though sig has warranted some movement up the list)