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Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:33 am
by Marmot
Epignosis puts the brewsky in brusque.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:34 am
by Marmot
Long Con wrote:
Marmot wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Marmot wrote:That's two posts that suggests that Long Con is a power role. Why is he still alive? Why haven't the mafia killed him?
Two different power roles. And that's not counting the lie detector stuff. As Mafia, I've been trying to draw out that last, crucial Civ power role all game, and they're just so darn stubborn that they won't counter my so-called suggestions... and so timid that they won't try to make a case against me. Even though they know I'm the last baddie.

Oh, sorry, is that what you are doing, Marmot? If so, carry on.
How many mafia are there? Was that an intentionally placed slip?
No, just an assumption based on the numbers.
Check out last year's RED vs. BLUE.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:41 am
by Long Con
Marmot wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Marmot wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Marmot wrote:That's two posts that suggests that Long Con is a power role. Why is he still alive? Why haven't the mafia killed him?
Two different power roles. And that's not counting the lie detector stuff. As Mafia, I've been trying to draw out that last, crucial Civ power role all game, and they're just so darn stubborn that they won't counter my so-called suggestions... and so timid that they won't try to make a case against me. Even though they know I'm the last baddie.

Oh, sorry, is that what you are doing, Marmot? If so, carry on.
How many mafia are there? Was that an intentionally placed slip?
No, just an assumption based on the numbers.
Check out last year's RED vs. BLUE.
Three baddies. And Scotty was a Seemer and you didn't know you got a baddie Night 1? Fun.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:52 am
by Epignosis
DFaraday has my vote.

Now it's "between"* you and MM and LC.

*The proper word is "among."

Speak.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:32 am
by DFaraday
notsawyer540 wrote: DFaraday - He hasn't said much of substance other than that he's fine with Marmot or me getting lynched. No elaboration.
Maybe because I gave my reasons previously, and didn't feel like rehashing the same points? :shrug: :shrug2: :keys:
DFaraday wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I want to know the following from everybody:

1. Where you stand on notsawyer and why.
I'm leaning bad on Notsawyer because he is tunneling Epi, forcing the facts to fit his suspicion (ie., blaming Epi alone for SVS's lynch), and cites Epi's lack of caught baddies despite the fact that Notsawyer is hardly looking at anyone but Epi, and so has also caught no baddies.

2. Where you stand on Marmot and why.
Rereading his posts, I'm finding him to be pretty inconsistent. First he cites some mild suspicion, decides to vote her over Jack, then the next day says that he's glad everyone is "seeing sense" and voting Jack, despite making a case on Epi and continually pushing it throughout that phase. I'm leaning bad towards MM, but not as much as I am Notsawyer.

3. Where you stand on Floyd and why.
The lack of a kill could indicate that the remaining baddies are uninvolved, which would implicate Floyd more than anyone (and me next, I'm aware). I'm slightly leaning bad on Floyd.

4. Where you stand on DFaraday and why.
Vanilla Civvie all the way.

5. Where you stand on Quin and why.
I don't really recall Quin's activity this game. I'll need to look into him.

6. Where you stand on thellama73 and why.
If I'm right about Notsawyer being bad, it's unlikely Llama also is given the timing of his vote for Notsawyer on Day 1, when the lynch could still have gone that way. His Jack suspicion was also consistent and felt genuine. Leaning civ.

7. Where you stand on Long Con and why.
LC hasn't felt entirely involved in this game, like he's trying to keep out of the limelight. I don't have suspicions of him per se, but I don't really feel civ about him.

You get the idea. If I left you out, it wasn't personal.

Start talking. Tell me why you're good. Tell me why others are bad. Go.
I'm going to move my vote to Notsawyer for now for self-preservation, though the fact that he mischaracterized me like that only furthers my suspicion that he fits the facts to meet his accusation (which apparently has shifted to me), and makes me more inclined to suspect him anyway.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:45 am
by MacDougall
There is way too much omgus going on in this game. This game really does remind me of a parliament. A whole bunch of men accusing each other of being the villain. Funny shit.

Faraday, do you really think he mischaracterised you in that post? Explain how please. I would describe it more as him describing you with cliff notes.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:45 am
by MacDougall
What if Epignosis is Donald Trump and he is role playing?

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:48 am
by Epignosis
MacDougall wrote:What if Epignosis is Donald Trump and he is role playing?
I still wouldn't kill Eloh.

Now notsawyer is dying. How does that suit you?

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:56 am
by DFaraday
MacDougall wrote:There is way too much omgus going on in this game. This game really does remind me of a parliament. A whole bunch of men accusing each other of being the villain. Funny shit.

Faraday, do you really think he mischaracterised you in that post? Explain how please. I would describe it more as him describing you with cliff notes.
He said that I just said I'm fine with lynching either him or MM without elaboration. I thought my post implied that I suspected them for the reasons I'd stated in my previous post, but he didn't seem to acknowledge that at all.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:07 am
by notsawyer540
So I name Dfaraday as my 3rd top suspect and he immediately votes for me--still without any sort of explanation other than saying that it's out of self-preservation despite the fact that he's not really on the chopping block in the same respect as I was yesterday.

I really don't want to vote out of self-preservation a second day in a row, but DF just put me ahead in votes and his "reasoning" seems scummy, so it may happen again. I KNOW I'm civ, but I don't know the same about any of you, so I'm gonna put myself first every time.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:54 am
by MacDougall
Epignosis wrote:
MacDougall wrote:What if Epignosis is Donald Trump and he is role playing?
I still wouldn't kill Eloh.

Now notsawyer is dying. How does that suit you?
Hmmm I feel meh about it.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:30 pm
by DrWilgy
notsawyer540 wrote:So I name Dfaraday as my 3rd top suspect and he immediately votes for me--still without any sort of explanation other than saying that it's out of self-preservation despite the fact that he's not really on the chopping block in the same respect as I was yesterday.

I really don't want to vote out of self-preservation a second day in a row, but DF just put me ahead in votes and his "reasoning" seems scummy, so it may happen again. I KNOW I'm civ, but I don't know the same about any of you, so I'm gonna put myself first every time.
U do u m8.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:42 pm
by DFaraday
notsawyer540 wrote:So I name Dfaraday as my 3rd top suspect and he immediately votes for me--still without any sort of explanation other than saying that it's out of self-preservation despite the fact that he's not really on the chopping block in the same respect as I was yesterday.

I really don't want to vote out of self-preservation a second day in a row, but DF just put me ahead in votes and his "reasoning" seems scummy, so it may happen again. I KNOW I'm civ, but I don't know the same about any of you, so I'm gonna put myself first every time.

Are you kidding me right now? I was tied for the lead when I voted you yesterday, and I'm still tied for the lead.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:21 pm
by DrWilgy
DFaraday wrote:
notsawyer540 wrote:So I name Dfaraday as my 3rd top suspect and he immediately votes for me--still without any sort of explanation other than saying that it's out of self-preservation despite the fact that he's not really on the chopping block in the same respect as I was yesterday.

I really don't want to vote out of self-preservation a second day in a row, but DF just put me ahead in votes and his "reasoning" seems scummy, so it may happen again. I KNOW I'm civ, but I don't know the same about any of you, so I'm gonna put myself first every time.

Are you kidding me right now? I was tied for the lead when I voted you yesterday, and I'm still tied for the lead.
And now you are in the lead. Isn't that neat?

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:12 pm
by thellama73
I have heard "DFaraday is bad" for a long time now, but am confused about why. Can someone refresh me on the case?

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:14 pm
by Epignosis
thellama73 wrote:I have heard "DFaraday is bad" for a long time now, but am confused about why. Can someone refresh me on the case?
I have no idea why. Something something blendy something something tone reads bad.

MM

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:27 pm
by thellama73
@HOST - Is the Vote Weighting executive order still in effect, or do we have to worry about ties?

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:40 pm
by G-Man
thellama73 wrote:@HOST - Is the Vote Weighting executive order still in effect, or do we have to worry about ties?
Read the night post again.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:49 pm
by notsawyer540
DFaraday wrote:Are you kidding me right now? I was tied for the lead when I voted you yesterday, and I'm still tied for the lead.
A 3-way tie a day before the vote ends. :ponder: :eye:

Anyway, out of the current leaders in the poll I think Marmot's the most likely to be bad.

Vote MM

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:50 pm
by Long Con
It's no longer in effect - pretty sure apparent ties will be actual ties.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:52 pm
by Long Con
Right now we're forcing Marmot to choose who to make tied with him. Once that happens, someone else will have to un-tie it. Who will be the one to make the ultimate decision? It's a big responsibility.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:53 pm
by Long Con
Marmot cannot vote DFaraday, because that would force DFaraday to switch to Marmot, resulting in Marmot's lynch. Marmot is forced to vote notsawyer.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:54 pm
by thellama73
G-Man wrote:
thellama73 wrote:@HOST - Is the Vote Weighting executive order still in effect, or do we have to worry about ties?
Read the night post again.
Again?

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:56 pm
by thellama73
Long Con wrote:Marmot cannot vote DFaraday, because that would force DFaraday to switch to Marmot, resulting in Marmot's lynch. Marmot is forced to vote notsawyer.
True, but if Metalmarsh votes DFaraday and DFaraday votes Metalmarsh, that still leaves me with a spare vote. Oh the power. :feb:

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:04 pm
by Long Con
thellama73 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Marmot cannot vote DFaraday, because that would force DFaraday to switch to Marmot, resulting in Marmot's lynch. Marmot is forced to vote notsawyer.
True, but if Metalmarsh votes DFaraday and DFaraday votes Metalmarsh, that still leaves me with a spare vote. Oh the power. :feb:
What would you do with your power?

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:10 pm
by DrWilgy
Anyone wanna move their votes around?

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:14 pm
by Epignosis
Some insect keeps buzzing around my face.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:14 pm
by Long Con
Ok there, now we see who flinches.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:16 pm
by DrWilgy
Long Con wrote:Ok there, now we see who flinches.
:flamed: LIT :flamed:

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:16 pm
by DFaraday
notsawyer540 wrote:
DFaraday wrote:Are you kidding me right now? I was tied for the lead when I voted you yesterday, and I'm still tied for the lead.
A 3-way tie a day before the vote ends. :ponder: :eye:

Anyway, out of the current leaders in the poll I think Marmot's the most likely to be bad.

Vote MM
Even with changeable votes, that's how it often happens around here. Someone starts taking votes, and the momentum just keep rolling. I was trying to quell it before it became a runaway.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:19 pm
by DFaraday
And now we have a four way tie. I'm starting to not feel as bad that I've been neglecting this game, because nobody else seems to know what they're doing either.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:33 pm
by thellama73
Long Con wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Marmot cannot vote DFaraday, because that would force DFaraday to switch to Marmot, resulting in Marmot's lynch. Marmot is forced to vote notsawyer.
True, but if Metalmarsh votes DFaraday and DFaraday votes Metalmarsh, that still leaves me with a spare vote. Oh the power. :feb:
What would you do with your power?
That all depends, but I certainly don't want a tie. No lynch only benefits the mafia at this point.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:35 pm
by DFaraday
thellama73 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Marmot cannot vote DFaraday, because that would force DFaraday to switch to Marmot, resulting in Marmot's lynch. Marmot is forced to vote notsawyer.
True, but if Metalmarsh votes DFaraday and DFaraday votes Metalmarsh, that still leaves me with a spare vote. Oh the power. :feb:
What would you do with your power?
That all depends, but I certainly don't want a tie. No lynch only benefits the mafia at this point.
I agree. Switching back to MM.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:36 pm
by DrWilgy
DFaraday wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Marmot cannot vote DFaraday, because that would force DFaraday to switch to Marmot, resulting in Marmot's lynch. Marmot is forced to vote notsawyer.
True, but if Metalmarsh votes DFaraday and DFaraday votes Metalmarsh, that still leaves me with a spare vote. Oh the power. :feb:
What would you do with your power?
That all depends, but I certainly don't want a tie. No lynch only benefits the mafia at this point.
I agree. Switching back to MM.
Neat, we are still at a tie as long as Marmot shows up!

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:38 pm
by Epignosis
Would a tie please you, Wilgy?

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:53 pm
by DrWilgy
Epignosis wrote:Would a tie please you, Wilgy?
Not at all, just an interesting gamestate that has to change.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:05 pm
by Marmot
thellama73 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Marmot cannot vote DFaraday, because that would force DFaraday to switch to Marmot, resulting in Marmot's lynch. Marmot is forced to vote notsawyer.
True, but if Metalmarsh votes DFaraday and DFaraday votes Metalmarsh, that still leaves me with a spare vote. Oh the power. :feb:
What would you do with your power?
That all depends, but I certainly don't want a tie. No lynch only benefits the mafia at this point.
Actually, a tie could put us at an odd number of players, so not the worst thing in the world.

I see people are actually considering lynching me. Le sigh...

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:07 pm
by Marmot
But you know, why don't you just vote the player you actually think is scum instead of plotting vote maneuverability? :shrug:

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:08 pm
by thellama73
Marmot wrote:But you know, why don't you just vote the player you actually think is scum instead of plotting vote maneuverability? :shrug:
That's what I'm doing. You're welcome.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:14 pm
by Marmot
Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I have heard "DFaraday is bad" for a long time now, but am confused about why. Can someone refresh me on the case?
I have no idea why. Something something blendy something something tone reads bad.

MM
Why?

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:19 pm
by Marmot
I don't really have anything else to say, except lynch Epignosis please.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:23 pm
by Marmot
His accusations against me are weak, and often off-the-cuff and unfounded. Why? He doesn't need to make a strong case against me; I'm an easy lynch.

Get off your damn "Epignosis is a civilian, because he's always civilian" mentality and get your shit together civilians.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:25 pm
by Long Con
Marmot wrote:His accusations against me are weak, and often off-the-cuff and unfounded. Why? He doesn't need to make a strong case against me; I'm an easy lynch.

Get off your damn "Epignosis is a civilian, because he's always civilian" mentality and get your shit together civilians.
That's not what I'm doing. I just think he made some really good points about why he's a Civ. I think he'd rather have a golden gem in his pocket about never killing Eloh, than give it up for a Heist.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:27 pm
by thellama73
I definitely don't think "Epignosis is always civilian." He's mafia a lot. But he sucks at it and I can always spot him, so I don't think he's mafia this time.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:28 pm
by Epignosis
Marmot wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I have heard "DFaraday is bad" for a long time now, but am confused about why. Can someone refresh me on the case?
I have no idea why. Something something blendy something something tone reads bad.

MM
Why?
Because your suspicion of me can't be real, and if it is, I'm very sorry for you. I am a civilian.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:29 pm
by Marmot
Long Con wrote:
Marmot wrote:His accusations against me are weak, and often off-the-cuff and unfounded. Why? He doesn't need to make a strong case against me; I'm an easy lynch.

Get off your damn "Epignosis is a civilian, because he's always civilian" mentality and get your shit together civilians.
That's not what I'm doing. I just think he made some really good points about why he's a Civ. I think he'd rather have a golden gem in his pocket about never killing Eloh, than give it up for a Heist.
Note that it was SVS who first accused him, not something he brought to the table himself.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:30 pm
by DrWilgy
2 min until tie.

Neat.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:31 pm
by Long Con
Sorry Marmot, I broke it.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:32 pm
by Long Con
Wilgy did the same thing I did.

Re: Day 5- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:32 pm
by Marmot
Long Con wrote:Sorry Marmot, I broke it.
Good! I can't vote myself, so I'm glad you did.

Peace out civilians.