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Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:05 pm**

Colin, what’s the similarity between this and LC in courage? I see none.

And don’t come at me telling me I’m taking a back seat. I’m one of the few who has driven conversation.

I also fully disagree with your town reads. Nova and TH look extremely likely as sokoth teammates to me. Sokoths votes in the captaincy thing would fit the pattern perfectly, he voted I believe for TH, DH and glorf along with inh. It furthers my belief there was an intentional plot against me.

TH or DH or both would easily be the type to deliberately attempt to block my captaincy.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:05 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:04 pm Dammit

DrWilgy accepts the position on the Serenity

Welcome aboard fam.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:06 pm**

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Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:06 pm**

Also glorfindel is not bad and I will defend any assertion he is Sokoths teammate vigorously.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:08 pm**

Nova was on sokoth early, and sokoth was not one of the leading wagons. When sokoth took the lead, nova tried to divert others to seeing Luna as bad while not being willing to swing that way himself.

This has all the hallmarks of distancing becoming bussing to me. It’s like something I would do.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:13 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:08 pm Nova was on sokoth early, and sokoth was not one of the leading wagons. When sokoth took the lead, nova tried to divert others to seeing Luna as bad while not being willing to swing that way himself.

This has all the hallmarks of distancing becoming bussing to me. It’s like something I would do.

u wot m8

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:13 pm**

Luna and speed are the ones I feel best about out of that lynch.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:14 pm**

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golden offers Lunalee a position on the Bonnie Mae

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:14 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:06 pm @Spacedaisy Are we allowed to spend/send money during the night?

The shop is only open during the day. I will be adding new items later tonight. No one has made any purchases yet.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:15 pm**

Yo Dharma wanna put our shit on pause and take out Goldenboy?

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:17 pm**

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:15 pm Yo Dharma wanna put our shit on pause and take out Goldenboy?

Yo TH wanna recruit the people I’ve scumread and use them as allies just because it’s an easy way to take out a threat to you?

I’m not on the poll.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:21 pm**

People should look back on yesterday. Nova was going after me all day one and just decided to start going after sokoth. At the time I found it odd, given I was on the poll... his answer as to why was essentially ‘oh yeah you’re still bad too’. Then when sokoth was actually in danger of being lynched suddenly nova declares the counterwagon as being on someone also bad, but doesn’t move.

Colin, you want something actually reminiscent. This reminds me of you in retrocausality. It feels like the outcome nova was voting for and the outcome he wanted were different.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:23 pm**

And if I’m right about this and nova isbad I’m snsolutely convinced TH is his teammate. I linked them early and ever since then... and not before... TH has come to his defence every time I post against him. It’s soooo superficial to me. There’s not even substance to THs defences. Read them.

Lastly, Colin, you should remember my conviction that TH was bad in courage was real. It’s equally real here, but this is not a case where I’m bad and think he’s third party. I thInk he coordinated, deliberately, a plot to cut me out of captaincy.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:24 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:17 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:15 pm Yo Dharma wanna put our shit on pause and take out Goldenboy?
Yo TH wanna recruit the people I’ve scumread and use them as allies just because it’s an easy way to take out a threat to you?

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:24 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:14 pm @lunalee

golden offers Lunalee a position on the Bonnie Mae

Get in line Mr "Stop poaching my picks"

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:27 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:24 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:14 pm @lunalee

golden offers Lunalee a position on the Bonnie Mae
Get in line Mr "Stop poaching my picks"

Yesterday you voted for her. I’m just giving her options.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:39 pm**

I have the following crews so far:

Serenity - dharmahelper
INH
Enrique
DrWilgy
2 open spots left

Yun Qui - Turnip Head
Epi
Nutella
Nova
Sig
Colin
This crew is full

Bonnie Mae - Golden
Glorfindel
Speedchuck
Marmot
DDL
1 open spot left

Free Agents:
lunalee
DFaraday
lapluie

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:46 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:05 pm Colin, what’s the similarity between this and LC in courage? I see none.

And don’t come at me telling me I’m taking a back seat. I’m one of the few who has driven conversation.

I also fully disagree with your town reads. Nova and TH look extremely likely as sokoth teammates to me. Sokoths votes in the captaincy thing would fit the pattern perfectly, he voted I believe for TH, DH and glorf along with inh. It furthers my belief there was an intentional plot against me.

TH or DH or both would easily be the type to deliberately attempt to block my captaincy.

You did a similar “not paying attention, probably won’t vote” thing there at one point I think. Tonally, yesterday you looked just like you did in Courage.

I just think you’re being kind of over-the-top with this “plot” thing too ... if you are town, you are laser-focused on personal slights against you and I think it’s clouding your judgment.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:48 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:08 pm Nova was on sokoth early, and sokoth was not one of the leading wagons. When sokoth took the lead, nova tried to divert others to seeing Luna as bad while not being willing to swing that way himself.

This has all the hallmarks of distancing becoming bussing to me. It’s like something I would do.

It could be, but why go the distance to distance when there’s almost nothing from Sokoth? Why not seize onto one of yesterday’s major cases? Nova looks very genuine to me so if he is bad then kudos.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:48 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:08 pm Nova was on sokoth early, and sokoth was not one of the leading wagons. When sokoth took the lead, nova tried to divert others to seeing Luna as bad while not being willing to swing that way himself.

This has all the hallmarks of distancing becoming bussing to me. It’s like something I would do.

This.

Also nova is one of the few people who have played with Soneji recently, and would know he is a good player. Giving him a reason to off him on night 1. The other one would be Epi, who won a big game with him as scum a few years ago. I bet one of nova or Epi is bad.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:51 pm**

In fact, can we get a show of hands for people who believe in a campaign against Golden’s captaincy, and those that don’t?

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:52 pm**

I could see Nova being bad similar to Scotty in Easter where he started the Choutas wagon that mistakenly developed. But I dunno. I think there is better fruit to be had in seeing how people reacted as it became real.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:53 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:46 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:05 pm Colin, what’s the similarity between this and LC in courage? I see none.

And don’t come at me telling me I’m taking a back seat. I’m one of the few who has driven conversation.

I also fully disagree with your town reads. Nova and TH look extremely likely as sokoth teammates to me. Sokoths votes in the captaincy thing would fit the pattern perfectly, he voted I believe for TH, DH and glorf along with inh. It furthers my belief there was an intentional plot against me.

TH or DH or both would easily be the type to deliberately attempt to block my captaincy.
You did a similar “not paying attention, probably won’t vote” thing there at one point I think. Tonally, yesterday you looked just like you did in Courage.

I just think you’re being kind of over-the-top with this “plot” thing too ... if you are town, you are laser-focused on personal slights against you and I think it’s clouding your judgment.

No you have it wrong. It’s only personal because it’s me. I’d think the same if it was you. I was removed from a tie for captaincy FIVE times. That’s not a slight, that’s intentional in my opinion. I don’t believe any of the other four in the running were ever removed from the top four even once.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:54 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:13 pm Luna and speed are the ones I feel best about out of that lynch.

I don't feel that good about Luna, she was kind of hesitating about voting Sokoth, until I told her it was self-defense, and even then she took ser sweet time.

I think there are a few who look worse though. Namely nova, DH, Colin and maybe you too.

TH also gives me chills because he disappeared from the game right before the Sokoth wagon started.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:54 pm**

Okay. Let’s see if others agree with that.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:55 pm**

I don't feel like voting for Luna today again tho, I think it's kind of tunneling if I insist on it after that "counter-wagon" of yesterday turned out to be something else.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:56 pm**

As for the LC situation - I subbed into that game during that day.

What’s more I was playing retrocausality with you at the exact same time, I was town, and I made the same posts about my rl circumstances.

I have the unenviable reputation of being always available. Reality is I’m not and I say so when I’m not. But I still made time to fully invest in that lynch and although I warned I might not, I actually did manage to.

Don’t fall into the trap of having a better emotional memory of when I was bad. It’s a false flag.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:57 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:47 pm P.S To nip any "DH could be SQ's teammate" shit in the bud. I put the fucker on the poll, even if I didn't want people to vote for my crew if we were teammates I would've just put a civ on the poll instead.

Anyway those are my two cents.

This is smart btw. I upgrade DH to townish.

Poll when?

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:57 pm**

I'm confiscating Golden's victim card, it will be returned at the end of the game

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:59 pm**

Eh I don't put much stock for or against the nova conspiracy theory. A vote is a vote, it may carry ill intent but it also contains WIFOM.

I kind of not feel so good about nova yesterday. I wanna lynch either him or TH.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:00 pm**

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:57 pm I'm confiscating Golden's victim card, it will be returned at the end of the game

Yeah, minimising is definitely the way to show it isn’t true.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:01 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:59 pm Eh I don't put much stock for or against the nova conspiracy theory. A vote is a vote, it may carry ill intent but it also contains WIFOM.

I kind of not feel so good about nova yesterday. I wanna lynch either him or TH.

Who are your top townreads?

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:02 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:59 pm Eh I don't put much stock for or against the nova conspiracy theory. A vote is a vote, it may carry ill intent but it also contains WIFOM.

I kind of not feel so good about nova yesterday. I wanna lynch either him or TH.

Is this literally the first time we’ve ever been reading the game the same way?

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:02 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:57 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:47 pm P.S To nip any "DH could be SQ's teammate" shit in the bud. I put the fucker on the poll, even if I didn't want people to vote for my crew if we were teammates I would've just put a civ on the poll instead.

Anyway those are my two cents.
This is smart btw. I upgrade DH to townish.

Poll when?

Poll when I get the last name that goes on it from lunalee. I can’t put it up any sooner than that.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:04 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:02 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:59 pm Eh I don't put much stock for or against the nova conspiracy theory. A vote is a vote, it may carry ill intent but it also contains WIFOM.

I kind of not feel so good about nova yesterday. I wanna lynch either him or TH.
Is this literally the first time we’ve ever been reading the game the same way?

I still hate CFDs and I intend to write that in my tombstone though.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:05 pm**

With the nova thing I amdmit I'm kind of pigbacking on your read. And just adding the Soneji thing to it.

I'm more annoyed by TH's strategic leave, personally.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:06 pm**

Nova and I were the first two people to vote for Sokoth so idk what thread you boys are reading tbqh, we're basically heroes

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:07 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:01 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:59 pm Eh I don't put much stock for or against the nova conspiracy theory. A vote is a vote, it may carry ill intent but it also contains WIFOM.

I kind of not feel so good about nova yesterday. I wanna lynch either him or TH.
Who are your top townreads?

Besides Glorf

Golden, INH.

Everybody else is either neutral or bad and I thank you for helping me notice that. I need to look at some of those neutrals.

Or rather, they need to post more. Too many inactive in this game.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:07 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:08 pm Nova was on sokoth early, and sokoth was not one of the leading wagons. When sokoth took the lead, nova tried to divert others to seeing Luna as bad while not being willing to swing that way himself.

This has all the hallmarks of distancing becoming bussing to me. It’s like something I would do.

I wasn't on Sokoth early. I MADE the case against Sokoth. I tried to CFD'd him D1 as well.

I never tried to divert attention to anyone. I saw a lot of bad stuff from Luna, especially her implying that anyone who pushed you is bad.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:11 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:21 pm People should look back on yesterday. Nova was going after me all day one and just decided to start going after sokoth. At the time I found it odd, given I was on the poll... his answer as to why was essentially ‘oh yeah you’re still bad too’. Then when sokoth was actually in danger of being lynched suddenly nova declares the counterwagon as being on someone also bad, but doesn’t move.

Colin, you want something actually reminiscent. This reminds me of you in retrocausality. It feels like the outcome nova was voting for and the outcome he wanted were different.

I went after Sokoth at the end of D1, as well when your lynch wasn't likely. Are you just this dishonest? Or do you have just that big of a hard-on for me? Why the fuck would I stay on you if nobody is going to vote for you?

I proposed Sokoth as a CFD candidate since I didn't like Macdougall's lynch. I made the case against him D2. He came back at me. I double downed on him. Glorfindel defended him. I called out Glorfindel and he dipped, never to be seen again except for some fluff.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:11 pm**

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:06 pm Nova and I were the first two people to vote for Sokoth so idk what thread you boys are reading tbqh, we're basically heroes

An early vote can be just distancing. Point is that when a wagon actually formed, you weren't here to help push it, neither to look bad by pushing something else. A very confortable position.

I admit I'm tinfoiling here and you may have a thousand reasons to have left, but my instinct is that this looks bad.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:16 pm**

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:29 pm**

I'm about to catch up

Sokoth isn't marked as dead in the OP

RIP Kylemii and Owner

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:33 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:43 pm Also please read along with Day 2 if you have time, with my posts up there on the side, and see if it’s accurate. I make mistakes and may have different interpretations of events than you. It’s not deliberate.

I voted Sokoth like ten or twenty posts before I said I did, then left my computer, unaware of the linki. I only came back later to post it.

Might throw off the order.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:34 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:14 pm @lunalee

golden offers Lunalee a position on the Bonnie Mae

Lunalee accepts the position aboard the Bonnie Mae

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:38 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:29 pm I'm about to catch up

Sokoth isn't marked as dead in the OP

RIP Kylemii and Owner

Oh yeah his reminds me, looks like our 3p is a serial killer.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:40 pm**

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:34 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:14 pm @lunalee

golden offers Lunalee a position on the Bonnie Mae
Lunalee accepts the position aboard the Bonnie Mae

:O Betrayed

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:41 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:51 pm In fact, can we get a show of hands for people who believe in a campaign against Golden’s captaincy, and those that don’t?

I have Golden as a slight townread right now.

And no, I don't believe that there was an anti-Golden campaign any more than I believe there was a Luna campaign. The votes fell based on popularity, bribes, and trust levels. Glorf is a trusty fellow.

I don't begrudge Golden thinking so though.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:44 pm**

Holy shit this poll is so small.

Hey DH crew:

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:44 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:47 pm P.S To nip any "DH could be SQ's teammate" shit in the bud. I put the fucker on the poll, even if I didn't want people to vote for my crew if we were teammates I would've just put a civ on the poll instead.

Anyway those are my two cents.

Interesting you should say this. I just told my own crew last night, in paraphrase, ‘I wouldn’t use my captaincy to protect a teammate. If I had one on my crew I’d throw them to the wolves.

This is the kind of action that looks good, so it’s ideal for claiming town cred, but in reality you just put a guy in a pool of several people.

It isn’t indicative that you are bad, but I’d be very careful about assigning it much credibility.

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