The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:07 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:06 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:01 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

speedchuck's recent observation about her in GTH was good. Her salad was against the law.

Or we could lynch Jay.

Jay, Quin. Maybe Mac or Colin. That’s where I’m at now.

Your read progression on me:

Lies. You said suspicious things two days ago, disappeared for all of yesterday, then came back this morning and said suspicious things.

Don’t let me lynch you. If I catch wolf Jay, you’ll never live it down, Obi-Wan.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:05 pm Guys nutella made a salad, the day phase is over.

Denied.

You're rather forced there given your immediate vegetable-filled mishap.

apart from suspecting nutella and DDL cos they scum read him and hadnt mentioned him in their isos before (i haven't confirmed that yet), speed has done nothing else this game.

pou has scum read people she hadn't mentioned before either. more than just 1, i'm certain.

i don't think what nutella did was a salad. those are all names that are in the pool of scum-behavior (apart from DDL, i dunno why he's scum reading DDL). i saw a clear streak of CIVILIAN nutella day 1 of day 1, that wouldn't make sense if she was on a mafia team. it's going to take more to dissuade me from that.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:14 pm

poutanko wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:13 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:11 pm i find pou's GTH's far more alarming than nutella's.

Scum or town read me, choose. It's not that hard

oh i thought that was clear, with my vote on you and all. you a bad kitty.

Pou is the kind of kitty bunny that nibbles your fingers because you've been handling raw chicken carrots.
Dunya is the kind of kitty that horks in your shoe.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:17 pmthen came back this morning and said suspicious things.

What were they?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:58 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:57 amI think it is going to one of sloonei, ddl, quin, and speed.

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Lmao no. I've been considering those people my suspects for a while. I waffled on ddl around the time of gth but I don't like his overall image.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:16 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:54 am @Dragon D. Luffy and @nutella both scumread me in the GTH, and that was their ONLY post about me.

I found them for you, @JaggedJimmyJay.

Pretty sure I mentioned you before that.

I iso'd you. Searched your posts for "speed". Prove me wrong?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:17 pmi don't think what nutella did was a salad. those are all names that are in the pool of scum-behavior (apart from DDL, i dunno why he's scum reading DDL). i saw a clear streak of CIVILIAN nutella day 1 of day 1, that wouldn't make sense if she was on a mafia team. it's going to take more to dissuade me from that.

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:01 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

speedchuck's recent observation about her in GTH was good. Her salad was against the law.

Speed was incorrect and that was not salad.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:18 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:58 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:57 amI think it is going to one of sloonei, ddl, quin, and speed.

Spoiler: show

Lmao no. I've been considering those people my suspects for a while. I waffled on ddl around the time of gth but I don't like his overall image.

can u be more specific, which post(s) made you feel that way, for example?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:19 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:17 pmi don't think what nutella did was a salad. those are all names that are in the pool of scum-behavior (apart from DDL, i dunno why he's scum reading DDL). i saw a clear streak of CIVILIAN nutella day 1 of day 1, that wouldn't make sense if she was on a mafia team. it's going to take more to dissuade me from that.

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say please.

poutanko wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:10 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:06 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:01 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

speedchuck's recent observation about her in GTH was good. Her salad was against the law.

Or we could lynch Jay.

Jay, Quin. Maybe Mac or Colin. That’s where I’m at now.

bro, you just committed a sin

What’s wrong with that?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:18 pmLmao no. I've been considering those people my suspects for a while. I waffled on ddl around the time of gth but I don't like his overall image.

I don't care. You arranged a buffet of candidates for yourself without a clear direction among them.

Hey who can tell me why Mac has votes? I have seen nothing on him.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:04 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:03 pm MU puts your chosen pronouns under your avatar. It really is the gold standard of mafia convenience.

pou's gender is female on TS too. someone just isn't paying attention in class while he tosses a salad.

We also have the pronoun function now lol

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:19 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:19 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:17 pmi don't think what nutella did was a salad. those are all names that are in the pool of scum-behavior (apart from DDL, i dunno why he's scum reading DDL). i saw a clear streak of CIVILIAN nutella day 1 of day 1, that wouldn't make sense if she was on a mafia team. it's going to take more to dissuade me from that.

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say please.

Please expand.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:20 pm Hey who can tell me why Mac has votes? I have seen nothing on him.

because he's pooping around. people are shaking in their boots.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:17 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:05 pm Guys nutella made a salad, the day phase is over.

Denied.

You're rather forced there given your immediate vegetable-filled mishap.

I got a veggie for you right here.

No 8 year olds allowed.

poutanko wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:41 am @ColinIsCool "For now"? Lol are you not sure?
What are those 3 questions for? You're asking Dunya but then what? You said nothing about her, about novase, or me. So what for again? Just ask for...asking? What do you have in mind on all 3 of us? Disappeared for hours then returned only to... stack a vote on me with "for now"

@dunya @JaggedJimmyJay I'm here as sub. I'm not going to put more effort than this. Take it or leave it.

Still not particularly enamored with this post, if it was "sorry I can't be too active right now" I'd understand but flat out saying you're not gonna put in effort looks weird.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:05 pm Guys nutella made a salad, the day phase is over.

No. You are using salad wrong. I stated the people I might vote for, who are all people I have previously mentioned suspecting. That is not what salad is and you know it. Salad is giving vague reads on a handful of people. That's not what I did. I stated my suspects. Buzz off grandpa.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:17 pm Don’t let me lynch you. If I catch wolf Jay, you’ll never live it down, Obi-Wan.

I'm not sure you have ever read me correctly, so consider me quite unconcerned, Hayden Christensen.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:17 pm apart from suspecting nutella and DDL cos they scum read him and hadnt mentioned him in their isos before (i haven't confirmed that yet), speed has done nothing else this game.

pou has scum read people she hadn't mentioned before either. more than just 1, i'm certain.

i don't think what nutella did was a salad. those are all names that are in the pool of scum-behavior (apart from DDL, i dunno why he's scum reading DDL). i saw a clear streak of CIVILIAN nutella day 1 of day 1, that wouldn't make sense if she was on a mafia team. it's going to take more to dissuade me from that.

You're forcing the idea that GTH is strong read when null is not allowed. I didn't mention them before because they're not my strong read. I based my read on Nutella, Colin and Sloonei from the game I was in with them where they played differently. I'm not even regular here. Playing only 2 games before. You sound like I have to have strong read on those GTH which is bullshit.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:18 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:17 pmthen came back this morning and said suspicious things.

What were they?

“I don’t care about this thing. Nutella, address it immediate.”

“Player salad > everything.”

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:05 pm Guys nutella made a salad, the day phase is over.

No. You are using salad wrong. I stated the people I might vote for, who are all people I have previously mentioned suspecting. That is not what salad is and you know it. Salad is giving vague reads on a handful of people. That's not what I did. I stated my suspects. Buzz off grandpa.

I am the only person who knows what salad is. What you just called salad is not salad. That's what everyone else wrongly calls salad. I am the authority on salad short only of Boomslang, the inventor and daddy of salad.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:24 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:17 pm Don’t let me lynch you. If I catch wolf Jay, you’ll never live it down, Obi-Wan.

I'm not sure you have ever read me correctly, so consider me quite unconcerned, Hayden Christensen.

Saaaaaaaaaand!

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:23 pm

poutanko wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:41 am @ColinIsCool "For now"? Lol are you not sure?
What are those 3 questions for? You're asking Dunya but then what? You said nothing about her, about novase, or me. So what for again? Just ask for...asking? What do you have in mind on all 3 of us? Disappeared for hours then returned only to... stack a vote on me with "for now"

@dunya @JaggedJimmyJay I'm here as sub. I'm not going to put more effort than this. Take it or leave it.

Still not particularly enamored with this post, if it was "sorry I can't be too active right now" I'd understand but flat out saying you're not gonna put in effort looks weird.

Pardon? I'm not native speaker but I'm sure "put more effort" =/= "put in effort".

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:25 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:18 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:17 pmthen came back this morning and said suspicious things.

What were they?

“I don’t care about this thing. Nutella, address it immediate.”

“Player salad > everything.”

That was terrible of me. What a goof. I wish I hadn't done that by accident.



You're reading everything I do in this game at Level 1 without thinking any more deeply than that. It's one of the biggest reasons I have suspected you so much.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:42 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:31 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:28 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:18 am I feel like I need to pick a side to break the Pou/Mac tie. Mac looks pretty good, but he's been silent the past few pages where as pou has been actively defending herself. Regardless of alignment, that always makes someone look worse. But I don't think she's scum for it.

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

This is not how you find mafia, by posts per last few pages.

you're saying I have to read everything before i can form an opinion?

I’m saying all the reads you’ve given this game baffle me.

don't worry, they might get better as time progresses.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:18 pmLmao no. I've been considering those people my suspects for a while. I waffled on ddl around the time of gth but I don't like his overall image.

I don't care. You arranged a buffet of candidates for yourself without a clear direction among them.

Who says I need a clear direction?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:19 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:19 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:17 pmi don't think what nutella did was a salad. those are all names that are in the pool of scum-behavior (apart from DDL, i dunno why he's scum reading DDL). i saw a clear streak of CIVILIAN nutella day 1 of day 1, that wouldn't make sense if she was on a mafia team. it's going to take more to dissuade me from that.

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say please.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:47 am

AudreyTheTattletail wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:11 am not werewolf just normal villager bec idk much about this game soooo it wont or atleast shouldnt make me werewolf and plus once again im only 8 years old plz belive me plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz

Audrey the roles are randomly assigned. Your reason for not being a werewolf doesn't make sense. Also just because you're eight doesn't mean you can't randomly roll the werewolf card. Also we call them mafia on this site not werewolves.

I enjoy that the Mac post which bugs me most is the one he directed at his own daughter.

Also, Audrey's reasoning isn't nonsense. She is right that "not knowing much about this game" shouldn't make her a werewolf. That's not illogical. That doesn't mean she is a civilian, but there's nothing incorrect about that assertion.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:31 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:28 am I think she looks civ. Partly in the way she's defending herself, and partly due to her suspicions of Colin.

Please expand on both of those things at least briefly.

That was as much thought as I gave it. Expanding on those ideas would involve me having to go back and read all of poutanko's Colin allegations, and her defenses, after which I might form a vastly different opinion.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:18 pmLmao no. I've been considering those people my suspects for a while. I waffled on ddl around the time of gth but I don't like his overall image.

I don't care. You arranged a buffet of candidates for yourself without a clear direction among them.

There we are again, turning the caring on and off as is convenient.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:54 am Dragon D. Luffy and @nutella both scumread me in the GTH, and that was their ONLY post about me.

I found them for you, @JaggedJimmyJay.

Well it didn't let me post a "null" read so

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:28 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:18 pmLmao no. I've been considering those people my suspects for a while. I waffled on ddl around the time of gth but I don't like his overall image.

I don't care. You arranged a buffet of candidates for yourself without a clear direction among them.

Who says I need a clear direction?

Someone who needs convincing that you aren't guilty of cardinal salad sin.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:31 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:18 pmLmao no. I've been considering those people my suspects for a while. I waffled on ddl around the time of gth but I don't like his overall image.

I don't care. You arranged a buffet of candidates for yourself without a clear direction among them.

There we are again, turning the caring on and off as is convenient.

I don't believe that "been considering those people for a while" is relevant to my accusation.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:21 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:19 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:19 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:17 pmi don't think what nutella did was a salad. those are all names that are in the pool of scum-behavior (apart from DDL, i dunno why he's scum reading DDL). i saw a clear streak of CIVILIAN nutella day 1 of day 1, that wouldn't make sense if she was on a mafia team. it's going to take more to dissuade me from that.

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say please.

Please expand.

ok gramps.
nutella thought i was bad, you had me as a suspect, jack was pounding me with 'dunya is bad lynch her immediately' and colin was on me. speed i think too expressed i'm bad? she had a lot going for her to keep up the suspicion on that basis. she could have easily kept it up. what motive does nutella have to fake her suspicions on me? they seem like genuine concerns that multiple people were behind. what motive does scum nutella have to backing off suddenly?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:50 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:36 pm i really don't care about this whole lynch deal. can we just start shooting people?

okay you know what forget i ever suspected you

she really let me go though. her read on me felt so genuine. if she's faking this, i'll throw eggs at myself, but i don't see it. scum nutella would have 0 desire to let go of dunya's mislynch/lynch on day 1. period. i've played with her as scum, i've watched her as scum. there is 0 scenarios i can see in my head where she would do that in the environment i was in. she flipped her read. she let me off the hook. scum nutella would be in scum chat telling her scum mates to try and secure my mislynch with my "defeatist" attitude 100%. at the very least, she would have disappeared after casting her suspicions on me and let them sit in the thread and come back later instead of sticking through and altering her read all by herself without any harsh pushes from me.

also, this is going to sound super silly but the all caps "LIKE!" seems so genuine and unscum like

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:48 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:26 pm Sure. The accusation came six minutes after the vote while Jack was catching up, so that may represent Jack justifying the vote by force (while yucking a post that multiple others had already yucked).

LIKE!

this goes for dunya's original post as well, this is just a nice summation of why Jack's vote was sketchy and I hadn't really been considering him suspicious until this was pointed out but this is a great point

yea yea, that part could be scumnutella happy she caught scumjack from another team, but coupled with her specific handling of ME, i take it to see a clear civ nutella.

also this is gonna be one of those times where you think WTF is she on about, but i trust my instinct on this one.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:20 pm Hey who can tell me why Mac has votes? I have seen nothing on him.

Tone/effort read. He is overly negative without contributing anything. But his tone does contrast his play in a World Asunder so I’m conflicted.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:05 pm Guys nutella made a salad, the day phase is over.

No. You are using salad wrong. I stated the people I might vote for, who are all people I have previously mentioned suspecting. That is not what salad is and you know it. Salad is giving vague reads on a handful of people. That's not what I did. I stated my suspects. Buzz off grandpa.

Hm ok I guess speed was right after all. I could have sworn I mentioned not liking him early on but I must have just thought it silently. There was no content from him to criticize directly after all, that was kind of the problem. Oh and then I did say more after the gth, I remember now bc I said he didnt complain about me suspecting him as usual.

The question I find myself asking regarding Mac is this:

Is his current status atop the poll entirely his own doing, in a way that was definitely preventable by a man who cares?

Salad is differentiated from suspect lists by virtue of being just tossed out where as suspects have reasons for existing. By his own admission, Jay doesn’t care about the reasons but he still wants to call salad.

Got em.

I think your points are sound, dunya, if [mention]nutella[/mention] indeed does not suspect you at present. I am not sure it's clear there. nutella, what's yer read on dunya right now?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:35 pm Hm ok I guess speed was right after all. <snip> There was no content from him to criticize <snip>

Cool.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:36 pm Salad is differentiated from suspect lists by virtue of being just tossed out where as suspects have reasons for existing. By his own admission, Jay doesn’t care about the reasons but he still wants to call salad.

Got em.

That is again the wrong definition of salad. That's the "salad" that leads to mislynches, because nobody knows wtf it actually is.

Textbook salad, as I have said in 40 games now (I can retrieve the posts) is: "I am willing to lynch X, Y, Z, or maybe W."

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:36 pm I think your points are sound, dunya, if @nutella indeed does not suspect you at present. I am not sure it's clear there. nutella, what's yer read on dunya right now?

Dunya is town.

Jack, you're playing Connect Four with me again. I believe you're a Chess player, and you're playing Connect Four.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:38 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:36 pm Salad is differentiated from suspect lists by virtue of being just tossed out where as suspects have reasons for existing. By his own admission, Jay doesn’t care about the reasons but he still wants to call salad.

Got em.

That is again the wrong definition of salad. That's the "salad" that leads to mislynches, because nobody knows wtf it actually is.

Textbook salad, as I have said in 40 games now (I can retrieve the posts) is: "I am willing to lynch X, Y, Z, or maybe W."

Well I've caught several baddies with my definition of salad so I don't care about yours.

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine bc at least he already has a vote and so does ddl bit I'm less decided on ddl