The Syndicate

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:02 pm why the fuck are y'all writing overnight posts in a light game

gg hally

bronana wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pm bronanas push on kza, so suspicious!

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:03 pm oh my god and chloe x-posted me while i was writing that y'all are goons

uhh quick note that i got 30 extra posts off the pop quiz, gonna go ahead and save everyone the math on that one

(they will probably all be shitposts)

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:02 pm why the fuck are y'all writing overnight posts in a light game

gg hally

bc i was just slightly surprised at the result and had some reads change and wanted to get them down and cross my fingers i wouldnt die

why does this post make me want to snapvote you lol

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:02 pm why the fuck are y'all writing overnight posts in a light game

gg hally

bc i was just slightly surprised at the result and had some reads change and wanted to get them down and cross my fingers i wouldnt die

why does this post make me want to snapvote you lol

???????????

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:01 pm ok i wrote this overnight basically assuming kza would die and flip red so

if this were spec chat my n1 guess would have been kza/tangchloe/bronana/alison glgl

tangy's placement of kza in her readlist was something i noted in my head at the time, and at eod when she was pushing back a little against the wolfreads there i felt an uneasiness. in general i wasn't totally sold by the angles at which she engaged/didn't engage the thread. hopefully arete and i should be able to get a decent read on chloe pretty quickly

zack just kinda feels like the blendy wolf and i shared the concerns dizzy had with him at eod -- while he was arguing for a wolfread of kza in that exchange, it was in a way i can see as w/w (especially when there was already basically a stated plan to vig kza)

alison.... yeah i rethought this a bit. i was starting to reconsider dya by eod, and i know their tunnels like this can often just be on the money. with gav flipping v, i think it is conceivable after all that alison had tmi on him, and my counterargument to that about her whiteknighting an easy mischop doesn't really hold up since she completely ghosted eod, and had softly waved her hand about how she could have been wrong about gav earlier -- basically she didn't push her view either way and instead sat back and let the elim happen.



@ results

sweet, nice job hally but sad to see you go

aaaaaaaaa

sunbae wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:08 pm we cool with just assuming im good for bringing up kza out of nowhere on day 1 when outed wolf was asking about people to kill?

cause id love to spend the next 24 hours kinda letting the thread do its thing without much input but i dont wanna do that if its gonna make people come at me for being quiet.

re: gav, i just want to let you all know that when the entirety of the discussion/read of a person is based on meta it makes it really hard for people that havent played with them to not only participate in the conversation but also to really follow along/care about whats being said. I ended up caring 0 about the chop yesterday because it was "i haz god read and they woof" and "i haz lotsa experience with them and town" going head to head and I was basically useless

Chloe wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:02 pm - Speaking of Aroot, they're weird. Like.. really weird. I cannot for the life of me figure them out, but they're nowhere outside of their wolfrange. I think their HARD focus on Vul is getting to the point where it feels like they're using it as an easy out from providing in-depth thoughts on other matters - and its something very easy for them to latch onto, and super unnecessary. Like.. Vul is pretty much consensus town you dont need to explain 50 times how you s o u l r e a d him. It's weird. Also they brought up quite a few times that Gavial is potentially town, but I didn't see a huge effort to shift votes elsewhere. I also disliked how they treated my slot (Tangrowth) after her opener - and I super vibed with nut's thought process there. I would not be surprised in the slightest if Arete is a wolf. Hope I can sort them today

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:07 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:02 pm why the fuck are y'all writing overnight posts in a light game

gg hally

bc i was just slightly surprised at the result and had some reads change and wanted to get them down and cross my fingers i wouldnt die

why does this post make me want to snapvote you lol

???????????

i mean you were driving the "we're always ending on gavial it shouldnt even be a question" train

so

did you not have like

any thoughts to get down after that

Chloe wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:03 pm ahahahah i totally didnt write something in my wall about how i thought kza was town for being too consensus of a vig shot thend elete it when i saw the flip nope nope

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:01 pm ok i wrote this overnight basically assuming kza would die and flip red so

if this were spec chat my n1 guess would have been kza/tangchloe/bronana/alison glgl

tangy's placement of kza in her readlist was something i noted in my head at the time, and at eod when she was pushing back a little against the wolfreads there i felt an uneasiness. in general i wasn't totally sold by the angles at which she engaged/didn't engage the thread. hopefully arete and i should be able to get a decent read on chloe pretty quickly

zack just kinda feels like the blendy wolf and i shared the concerns dizzy had with him at eod -- while he was arguing for a wolfread of kza in that exchange, it was in a way i can see as w/w (especially when there was already basically a stated plan to vig kza)

alison.... yeah i rethought this a bit. i was starting to reconsider dya by eod, and i know their tunnels like this can often just be on the money. with gav flipping v, i think it is conceivable after all that alison had tmi on him, and my counterargument to that about her whiteknighting an easy mischop doesn't really hold up since she completely ghosted eod, and had softly waved her hand about how she could have been wrong about gav earlier -- basically she didn't push her view either way and instead sat back and let the elim happen.



@ results

sweet, nice job hally but sad to see you go

aaaaaaaaa

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:12 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:07 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:02 pm why the fuck are y'all writing overnight posts in a light game

gg hally

bc i was just slightly surprised at the result and had some reads change and wanted to get them down and cross my fingers i wouldnt die

why does this post make me want to snapvote you lol

???????????

i mean you were driving the "we're always ending on gavial it shouldnt even be a question" train

so

did you not have like

any thoughts to get down after that

nutella have you ever seen me post a SOD wall in my life outside of anni lmao

i did basically 0 overnight reading and think it's kind of silly that doing otherwise is an expectation you have of me

i have thoughts but they're... still mostly pretty jumbled. i'll sort out how i feel about gavial shit in a bit, doing some work stuff

Chloe wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:12 pm
pretty sure tangchloe is town tbh - which is funny because i had this slot as a slight scumlean as i was following along, for sidelining

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:12 pm also who would have figured hally was vig bc i sure didnt lol

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:12 pm also who would have figured hally was vig bc i sure didnt lol

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:11 pm like especially with kza being a pr, i'm kinda now also questioning the people who were most adamant about gav *always always* being the chop and not really acknowledging the kza stuff

off the top of my head it was mainly amy and maybe visor?

Arete wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:15 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:12 pm also who would have figured hally was vig bc i sure didnt lol

weh

I don't otherwise find Nutella wolfy but this post kind of makes me mrrrr

'hello fellow villagers who definitely would not have PR-hunted Hally, I too had no idea that she was a PR'

sunbae wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:15 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:12 pm also who would have figured hally was vig bc i sure didnt lol

Hally kill is mega weird considering the rest of the factors going on. Not many villa reads there so there had to be a big pr read, but then the shot went off too so they didn't roleblock knowing KZA was gonna be blasted 90% of the time? Have a few ideas of what it could mean rolling around in my head but I'll work em before bogging the thread down with theories

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:14 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:12 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:07 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:02 pm why the fuck are y'all writing overnight posts in a light game

gg hally

bc i was just slightly surprised at the result and had some reads change and wanted to get them down and cross my fingers i wouldnt die

why does this post make me want to snapvote you lol

???????????

i mean you were driving the "we're always ending on gavial it shouldnt even be a question" train

so

did you not have like

any thoughts to get down after that

nutella have you ever seen me post a SOD wall in my life outside of anni lmao

i did basically 0 overnight reading and think it's kind of silly that doing otherwise is an expectation you have of me

i have thoughts but they're... still mostly pretty jumbled. i'll sort out how i feel about gavial shit in a bit, doing some work stuff

okay

i know you dont tend to write overnight but i still get uneasy feelings that your literal first post at sod was just reacting to people's sod posts instead of...reacting to the flips

Arete wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:11 pm definitely did not skim to this part of Chloe's readlist and skip everything else

my focus on Vul is because he's the player I feel like I have the best grasp on this game? like, I'm in a game full of players who are mostly better than me, I think in most cases if I try to read SPF or Amy or Visor or whoever I'm just going to come out with a townread no matter what their alignment is, whereas Vul I can actually read him better than most people here, so I'm trying to mostly focus on doing that really well and commenting on other people when I happen to have thoughts.

w.r.t. Gavial I didn't try to shift reads elsewhere for a couple reasons

- I wasn't super confident in the read, I had him as probably villagery but he was playing a bit out of meta and I thought I might just be dumb and failing to see something that everyone else was seeing
- he's Seth so I didn't really care if he got misexe'd, this is a kind of sucky thing to think but it was in fact a consideration
- I was scared that if he was scum and I harddefended him people would think we were partnered

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:17 pm #villareadhallybeforeitwascool

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:15 pm itsthetellitsthetellitsthetell

chloe plsssss

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:17 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:14 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:12 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:07 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:02 pm why the fuck are y'all writing overnight posts in a light game

gg hally

bc i was just slightly surprised at the result and had some reads change and wanted to get them down and cross my fingers i wouldnt die

why does this post make me want to snapvote you lol

???????????

i mean you were driving the "we're always ending on gavial it shouldnt even be a question" train

so

did you not have like

any thoughts to get down after that

nutella have you ever seen me post a SOD wall in my life outside of anni lmao

i did basically 0 overnight reading and think it's kind of silly that doing otherwise is an expectation you have of me

i have thoughts but they're... still mostly pretty jumbled. i'll sort out how i feel about gavial shit in a bit, doing some work stuff

okay

i know you dont tend to write overnight but i still get uneasy feelings that your literal first post at sod was just reacting to people's sod posts instead of...reacting to the flips

i'm sorry that "gg hally" isn't a sufficient reaction to the flips for you

Spoiler: show

honestly gav flipping town doesn't really bother me enough that i felt like commenting on it, tbh. that's probably callous of me. shrug

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:16 pm

Arete wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:15 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:12 pm also who would have figured hally was vig bc i sure didnt lol

weh

I don't otherwise find Nutella wolfy but this post kind of makes me mrrrr

'hello fellow villagers who definitely would not have PR-hunted Hally, I too had no idea that she was a PR'

i'm literally asking "who *would* have"

as in who might be the wolf that decided to go for them

sunbae wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:18 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:17 pm #villareadhallybeforeitwascool

Do I get a semi-pat on the back for realizing Hally wasn't "right" and then it being due to being a pr? Or is it still a whiff lol

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:19 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:17 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:14 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:12 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:07 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pm

bc i was just slightly surprised at the result and had some reads change and wanted to get them down and cross my fingers i wouldnt die

why does this post make me want to snapvote you lol

???????????

i mean you were driving the "we're always ending on gavial it shouldnt even be a question" train

so

did you not have like

any thoughts to get down after that

nutella have you ever seen me post a SOD wall in my life outside of anni lmao

i did basically 0 overnight reading and think it's kind of silly that doing otherwise is an expectation you have of me

i have thoughts but they're... still mostly pretty jumbled. i'll sort out how i feel about gavial shit in a bit, doing some work stuff

okay

i know you dont tend to write overnight but i still get uneasy feelings that your literal first post at sod was just reacting to people's sod posts instead of...reacting to the flips

i'm sorry that "gg hally" isn't a sufficient reaction to the flips for you

Spoiler: show

honestly gav flipping town doesn't really bother me enough that i felt like commenting on it, tbh. that's probably callous of me. shrug

why does this sound EXACTLY like dya saying "i'm sorry that's a problem for you"

which iirc you specifically townread them for

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:19 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:17 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:14 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:12 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:07 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pm

bc i was just slightly surprised at the result and had some reads change and wanted to get them down and cross my fingers i wouldnt die

why does this post make me want to snapvote you lol

???????????

i mean you were driving the "we're always ending on gavial it shouldnt even be a question" train

so

did you not have like

any thoughts to get down after that

nutella have you ever seen me post a SOD wall in my life outside of anni lmao

i did basically 0 overnight reading and think it's kind of silly that doing otherwise is an expectation you have of me

i have thoughts but they're... still mostly pretty jumbled. i'll sort out how i feel about gavial shit in a bit, doing some work stuff

okay

i know you dont tend to write overnight but i still get uneasy feelings that your literal first post at sod was just reacting to people's sod posts instead of...reacting to the flips

i'm sorry that "gg hally" isn't a sufficient reaction to the flips for you

Spoiler: show

honestly gav flipping town doesn't really bother me enough that i felt like commenting on it, tbh. that's probably callous of me. shrug

why does this sound EXACTLY like dya saying "i'm sorry that's a problem for you"

which iirc you specifically townread them for

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:21 pm because it's the same sentiment. As in you're aggressively pushing things like this that are NAI

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:22 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:21 pm because it's the same sentiment. As in you're aggressively pushing things like this that are NAI

i just mean like

that kind of wording is normal for you, it's not for amy i dont think

and i don't think it's nai given her attitude toward the chop yesterday

Amy wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:21 pm i'm not actually sure what you're talking about because that's not what i townread dya for

though i don't think i actually talked about why i townread dya so maybe that was another line in the dya post i townread? i don't remember lol

but the dya thing that i'm townreading was a v specific emotional marker that i kinda don't feel like explaining cause it feels a little... bleh