Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:06 pm
[VOTE:
Ender] aubergine
I'm bored.
I'm bored.
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Cause he wasn't towntelling and there were other votes so I wanted to pressure. Also was about to head out for like, six hours idk.
Any reason I suddenly dropped from your top 5 town?alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:48 am ilario
Lime Coke
Alison
Esooa
Transcend
MacDougall
tonystarkprime
EnderWiggin
Wiml
NANOOKTHECONQUERER
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this is very pre-emptive
top 2: strongest V reads
second 2: strong V reads but i'd have some wariness over their wolf games
next 4: i need to sort in them and i'd be surprised if the group didn't have a wolf
NANOOK i just have no read on but him sheeping me on ilario feels slimy now what i TR ilario, and I know esooa has closest to a god-read on Wiml so until she townreads him i'm always going to be wary (since i townread her a lot)
i'm only on page 12 of backreading though
[VOTE: Ender] aubergineEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:07 pmCause he wasn't towntelling and there were other votes so I wanted to pressure. Also was about to head out for like, six hours idk.
Oh no.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:09 pm[VOTE: Ender] aubergineEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:07 pmCause he wasn't towntelling and there were other votes so I wanted to pressure. Also was about to head out for like, six hours idk.
This time it's not a pressure vote lol.
There is no towntell you have made so far that I am not sure you could replicate as mafia.
The fact that you're acting like there was any cohesive meta-read you pulled on me in that game is making me feel very much like you're trying to establish some sort of authority on the subject when you, in reality, have none.
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:12 pmI once was scary.
But then I took retirement to the knee.
I'm pocketedEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:12 pmOh no.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:09 pm[VOTE: Ender] aubergineEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:07 pmCause he wasn't towntelling and there were other votes so I wanted to pressure. Also was about to head out for like, six hours idk.
This time it's not a pressure vote lol.
Anyway.
I hated couching wolf-buddies because I expect too much from people.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:31 am If I was a wolf in this game I would probably distance rather fiercely very early and then coach my teammate to make the sort of posts I can be excused for townreading wrongly so I can get off the read. I expect similar from the wolves here maybe without the nuance of coaching.
Because there's no way he'd put that effort in as wolf.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:33 amYou plan to iso transcend why?Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:29 amBecause I want to catch up the game still and I have no self control.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:24 amwhy later?Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:23 amI'll go into more detail later about your earlier posts but your re-entrance was incredibly awkward and self aware and being self aware of it being awkward honestly makes it wolfier.
"Later" was referring to a full ISO on Transcend lol.
Hey. Get that humility outta here.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:34 amYeah I think it would obviously depend on my partner because most players in this lobby are better wolves than me lol but my typical stance in a mountainous would be trying to coach my partner as hard as possible and powerwolfing from there.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:31 am If I was a wolf in this game I would probably distance rather fiercely very early and then coach my teammate to make the sort of posts I can be excused for townreading wrongly so I can get off the read. I expect similar from the wolves here maybe without the nuance of coaching.
Ah they grow up so fast.
I'm just going to be amused in my corner. Don't mind me.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:46 amYes, especially if he randed after with me though after I absolutely smeared this all over as his big wolf tell lol.ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:40 amdo you tihnk he would try to take charge in this table though if he randed wolf?Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:35 amYeah I get the idea behind this. I know Esooa touched on it briefly earlier but I'm very much a compulsive control freak and that's very hard for me to hide when I rand wolf lol.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:28 ami think for me it's more that as town I can post any amount but like 9 times out of 10 I'm not exercising thread control or forming coalitions. As a wolf I'm at least trying to have control in any caseWiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:22 amPretty much the same for me lol but people tend to notice less since my posting floor is pretty high regardless.
Speaking of this topic though, this is one of the wolf tells I originally had on Ender. Him trying to take charge = him being a wolf. I'm going to look at his other wolf game in a moment to see if he acts that way even after I outed that as his tell or not.
I'm looming at the wolf game he just played and I think there's clearly an effort on his part to tone down the seriousness early on compared to the wolf gane of his I read a while back tbh. He still leaves RVS very early but he's also not immediately jostling to be a leader.
Honestly this is probably a bad read that I mostly just pushed as an excuse to make extra townreads as a wolf and sort of convinced myself in the process, I think he's aware enough of it that it's just completely NAI for him now. and I vaguely recall him saying in that wolf game "wait until you see me meme as a wolf" anyway. I'm not going to push it any further tbh.
I thought you'd realised lol but I knew the secret town tell you had on me was a read formation / effort tell and that's why I abused it so hard in Scythe lol.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:19 pmThere is no towntell you have made so far that I am not sure you could replicate as mafia.
That being said I'm not a super good meta-reader so who knows. I might be in whiplash from the Scythe sweep.
But to call it a lie is a little disingenuous. Almost seems agenda-y
Read further lol.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:22 pmThe fact that you're acting like there was any cohesive meta-read you pulled on me in that game is making me feel very much like you're trying to establish some sort of authority on the subject when you, in reality, have none.
If I post more than the post minimum I'm lock town. If I'm a wolf I always rwstfo obviously.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:24 pmBecause there's no way he'd put that effort in as wolf.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:33 amYou plan to iso transcend why?Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:29 amBecause I want to catch up the game still and I have no self control.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:24 amwhy later?
"Later" was referring to a full ISO on Transcend lol.
I've wolfed literally like 4 times ever lol.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:24 pmHey. Get that humility outta here.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:34 amYeah I think it would obviously depend on my partner because most players in this lobby are better wolves than me lol but my typical stance in a mountainous would be trying to coach my partner as hard as possible and powerwolfing from there.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:31 am If I was a wolf in this game I would probably distance rather fiercely very early and then coach my teammate to make the sort of posts I can be excused for townreading wrongly so I can get off the read. I expect similar from the wolves here maybe without the nuance of coaching.
You abused the secret meta-read but it wasn't read formation/effort.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:35 pmI thought you'd realised lol but I knew the secret town tell you had on me was a read formation / effort tell and that's why I abused it so hard in Scythe lol.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:19 pmThere is no towntell you have made so far that I am not sure you could replicate as mafia.
That being said I'm not a super good meta-reader so who knows. I might be in whiplash from the Scythe sweep.
But to call it a lie is a little disingenuous. Almost seems agenda-y
Any town who is self-aware of crafted meta and can replicate that as a wolf deserves a solid rating on the wolf scale.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:38 pmI've wolfed literally like 4 times ever lol.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:24 pmHey. Get that humility outta here.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:34 amYeah I think it would obviously depend on my partner because most players in this lobby are better wolves than me lol but my typical stance in a mountainous would be trying to coach my partner as hard as possible and powerwolfing from there.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:31 am If I was a wolf in this game I would probably distance rather fiercely very early and then coach my teammate to make the sort of posts I can be excused for townreading wrongly so I can get off the read. I expect similar from the wolves here maybe without the nuance of coaching.
Oh that makes more sense as well lol (even though it's not actually a tell for me tbh). I'd gathered for sure it was to do with reads and the rest I assumed based on the conversations we had in the 2+2 game.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:39 pmYou abused the secret meta-read but it wasn't read formation/effort.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:35 pmI thought you'd realised lol but I knew the secret town tell you had on me was a read formation / effort tell and that's why I abused it so hard in Scythe lol.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:19 pmThere is no towntell you have made so far that I am not sure you could replicate as mafia.
That being said I'm not a super good meta-reader so who knows. I might be in whiplash from the Scythe sweep.
But to call it a lie is a little disingenuous. Almost seems agenda-y
Which makes it funnier that you turned it against me without properly working out what it was I was trying to read you on.
(Your town games, or some of them, had a level of "Reads confusion" where your scum games had a level of surety to the reads. Obviously not as ironclad of a read as I thought it was lmao.)
I have the day off tomorrow and no plans.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:44 pm You guys know there's over 24 hours left in the day we don't need this many posts lol
Idk sounds like beginners luck cause I'm p sure he's mafiaWiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:44 pmOh that makes more sense as well lol (even though it's not actually a tell for me tbh). I'd gathered for sure it was to do with reads and the rest I assumed based on the conversations we had in the 2+2 game.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:39 pmYou abused the secret meta-read but it wasn't read formation/effort.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:35 pmI thought you'd realised lol but I knew the secret town tell you had on me was a read formation / effort tell and that's why I abused it so hard in Scythe lol.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:19 pmThere is no towntell you have made so far that I am not sure you could replicate as mafia.
That being said I'm not a super good meta-reader so who knows. I might be in whiplash from the Scythe sweep.
But to call it a lie is a little disingenuous. Almost seems agenda-y
Which makes it funnier that you turned it against me without properly working out what it was I was trying to read you on.
(Your town games, or some of them, had a level of "Reads confusion" where your scum games had a level of surety to the reads. Obviously not as ironclad of a read as I thought it was lmao.)
If that's your actual towntell read on me this game then I think that makes more sense lol. But alexa and illario (who was bunnyhunter in Anni) are both easy town reads tbh.
Speaking of illario, if anybody has any doubts about me being able to read him I was so confident on him being town in anni that I called out a fake red peek on him.
Plz noEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:45 pmI have the day off tomorrow and no plans.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:44 pm You guys know there's over 24 hours left in the day we don't need this many posts lol
Just wait.
I appreciate that but.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:40 pmAny town who is self-aware of crafted meta and can replicate that as a wolf deserves a solid rating on the wolf scale.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:38 pmI've wolfed literally like 4 times ever lol.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:24 pmHey. Get that humility outta here.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:34 amYeah I think it would obviously depend on my partner because most players in this lobby are better wolves than me lol but my typical stance in a mountainous would be trying to coach my partner as hard as possible and powerwolfing from there.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:31 am If I was a wolf in this game I would probably distance rather fiercely very early and then coach my teammate to make the sort of posts I can be excused for townreading wrongly so I can get off the read. I expect similar from the wolves here maybe without the nuance of coaching.
I also like analytical players so you're right in my soft-spot for reads.
Oh I'm absolutely not using it right now. I've gone back to basic reads while discarding anything I think you'd easily replicate.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:44 pmOh that makes more sense as well lol (even though it's not actually a tell for me tbh). I'd gathered for sure it was to do with reads and the rest I assumed based on the conversations we had in the 2+2 game.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:39 pmYou abused the secret meta-read but it wasn't read formation/effort.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:35 pmI thought you'd realised lol but I knew the secret town tell you had on me was a read formation / effort tell and that's why I abused it so hard in Scythe lol.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:19 pmThere is no towntell you have made so far that I am not sure you could replicate as mafia.
That being said I'm not a super good meta-reader so who knows. I might be in whiplash from the Scythe sweep.
But to call it a lie is a little disingenuous. Almost seems agenda-y
Which makes it funnier that you turned it against me without properly working out what it was I was trying to read you on.
(Your town games, or some of them, had a level of "Reads confusion" where your scum games had a level of surety to the reads. Obviously not as ironclad of a read as I thought it was lmao.)
If that's your actual towntell read on me this game then I think that makes more sense lol. But alexa and illario (who was bunnyhunter in Anni) are both easy town reads tbh.
Speaking of illario, if anybody has any doubts about me being able to read him I was so confident on him being town in anni that I called out a fake red peek on him.
How do you do, fellow slanker?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:44 pm You guys know there's over 24 hours left in the day we don't need this many posts lol
This is a good playerlist.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:46 pmI appreciate that but.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:40 pmAny town who is self-aware of crafted meta and can replicate that as a wolf deserves a solid rating on the wolf scale.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:38 pmI've wolfed literally like 4 times ever lol.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:24 pmHey. Get that humility outta here.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:34 amYeah I think it would obviously depend on my partner because most players in this lobby are better wolves than me lol but my typical stance in a mountainous would be trying to coach my partner as hard as possible and powerwolfing from there.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:31 am If I was a wolf in this game I would probably distance rather fiercely very early and then coach my teammate to make the sort of posts I can be excused for townreading wrongly so I can get off the read. I expect similar from the wolves here maybe without the nuance of coaching.
I also like analytical players so you're right in my soft-spot for reads.
Look at the playerlist lol.
I'm not really slanking I've read most of the threadWiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:46 pmHow do you do, fellow slanker?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:44 pm You guys know there's over 24 hours left in the day we don't need this many posts lol
What was the towntell I haven't done if you're saying I haven't towntold then? Were you actually just lying about it?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:46 pmOh I'm absolutely not using it right now. I've gone back to basic reads while discarding anything I think you'd easily replicate.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:44 pmOh that makes more sense as well lol (even though it's not actually a tell for me tbh). I'd gathered for sure it was to do with reads and the rest I assumed based on the conversations we had in the 2+2 game.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:39 pmYou abused the secret meta-read but it wasn't read formation/effort.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:35 pmI thought you'd realised lol but I knew the secret town tell you had on me was a read formation / effort tell and that's why I abused it so hard in Scythe lol.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:19 pmThere is no towntell you have made so far that I am not sure you could replicate as mafia.
That being said I'm not a super good meta-reader so who knows. I might be in whiplash from the Scythe sweep.
But to call it a lie is a little disingenuous. Almost seems agenda-y
Which makes it funnier that you turned it against me without properly working out what it was I was trying to read you on.
(Your town games, or some of them, had a level of "Reads confusion" where your scum games had a level of surety to the reads. Obviously not as ironclad of a read as I thought it was lmao.)
If that's your actual towntell read on me this game then I think that makes more sense lol. But alexa and illario (who was bunnyhunter in Anni) are both easy town reads tbh.
Speaking of illario, if anybody has any doubts about me being able to read him I was so confident on him being town in anni that I called out a fake red peek on him.
And sure, I'll allow iliario town. Their interactions have been fine.
If he wants to be a slanker in spirit, let him.
that fourth group was all kinda similarly ranked at the time I wrote that. People who have kinda villagery moments but I'm still working on sorting. There's some people this game who I expected to get confident reads on based on the sheer amount of meta and you're not one of those people so you kinda naturally dropped when I stopped remembering why I had you as townEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:08 pmAny reason I suddenly dropped from your top 5 town?alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:48 am ilario
Lime Coke
Alison
Esooa
Transcend
MacDougall
tonystarkprime
EnderWiggin
Wiml
NANOOKTHECONQUERER
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this is very pre-emptive
top 2: strongest V reads
second 2: strong V reads but i'd have some wariness over their wolf games
next 4: i need to sort in them and i'd be surprised if the group didn't have a wolf
NANOOK i just have no read on but him sheeping me on ilario feels slimy now what i TR ilario, and I know esooa has closest to a god-read on Wiml so until she townreads him i'm always going to be wary (since i townread her a lot)
i'm only on page 12 of backreading though
You haven't done anything that I would consider town-indicative of you.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:49 pmWhat was the towntell I haven't done if you're saying I haven't towntold then? Were you actually just lying about it?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:46 pmOh I'm absolutely not using it right now. I've gone back to basic reads while discarding anything I think you'd easily replicate.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:44 pmOh that makes more sense as well lol (even though it's not actually a tell for me tbh). I'd gathered for sure it was to do with reads and the rest I assumed based on the conversations we had in the 2+2 game.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:39 pmYou abused the secret meta-read but it wasn't read formation/effort.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:35 pmI thought you'd realised lol but I knew the secret town tell you had on me was a read formation / effort tell and that's why I abused it so hard in Scythe lol.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:19 pmThere is no towntell you have made so far that I am not sure you could replicate as mafia.
That being said I'm not a super good meta-reader so who knows. I might be in whiplash from the Scythe sweep.
But to call it a lie is a little disingenuous. Almost seems agenda-y
Which makes it funnier that you turned it against me without properly working out what it was I was trying to read you on.
(Your town games, or some of them, had a level of "Reads confusion" where your scum games had a level of surety to the reads. Obviously not as ironclad of a read as I thought it was lmao.)
If that's your actual towntell read on me this game then I think that makes more sense lol. But alexa and illario (who was bunnyhunter in Anni) are both easy town reads tbh.
Speaking of illario, if anybody has any doubts about me being able to read him I was so confident on him being town in anni that I called out a fake red peek on him.
And sure, I'll allow iliario town. Their interactions have been fine.