Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 9:48 pm
I still suspect Black Rock a lot, but it's hard to have any new reason to when she is all sick and not around posting.
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
fingersplints wrote:I think it's harder to post as we have. While Gman has to find pictures; A lot are repeat. If he is bad he doesn't have to really push for lynches, and he isn't under much scrutiny.Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Imo we should estabilish a G-Man thereshold.
If you are posting less than G-Man, then your activity is not acceptable.
(just kidding, I know real life happens)
i highlight this post only because of a sideboard point. i don't think it's suspicious or innocuous on its own power. but the tonality of fingersplints's attack on BR does give me one distinct feeling -- that it's not bussing. this doesn't have the appearance to me of a point that a mafioso usually makes against a team mate on Day 1, mostly because of its specificity. so if one of BR and fingersplints is mafia, i am inclined to think the other one is not right now. this feels like a pretty arbitrary insight from me though, so if anyone disagrees i encourage you to say so.fingersplints wrote:BR's defense of MP definitely caught my eye. Especially in a one mafia set up. If she was bad, I mean he could be a indy but she would know he was more likely to be good.Elohcin wrote:Anyway, I am leaning civ on Epi, Golden, MM, Splints, and Jimmy. I am not sure about San, Sloo, DDL, MP, and BR.
other than the separated sentence at the bottom about BR, this might be the most waffly post in the thread. so that's not the best thing. fingersplints speaks at length here about MP but only barely seems to actually assert something (the vaguest degree of suspicion, but still "torn"). she waffles the most about Epignosis in this post, regarding his RL time-based attack on MP. i have no idea whether she would conclude his points were well-placed or not. the bit about Golden and TH is also very much on-the-fence and i am not sure why it's even there.fingersplints wrote:So I'm a bit torn on MP. I think that the thing that bothers me the most is actually that I feel like a lot of his posts have a "tell me why I'm bad" demanding vibe going on, and I associate that more with a baddie. The timing thing doesn't bother me (although I totes get where Epi is coming from - it could be he just didn't want to answer that question hoping it would be forgotten) and although I think the Gman thing is weird I don't think makes him bad. The same thing could be pointed out about MP - why even bring up the question of if it is faked when it would draw so much attention for it.
Golden and TH are also bothering me by their different play but I'm not sure it makes either bad necessarily.
BR is still my biggest suspect for defending MP and then saying she wasn't defending him. I will probably be voting there.
not a fan of this "no u" deflection. MP said he was going to explain himself, and given his activity level in this game it was clear he'd follow through on that pledge. but instead of waiting to hear the reasoning, or even asking for it, splints just shrugs it off. very dismissive.fingersplints wrote:" no u"MovingPictures07 wrote:ALARM BELLS.fingersplints wrote:So I'm a bit torn on MP. I think that the thing that bothers me the most is actually that I feel like a lot of his posts have a "tell me why I'm bad" demanding vibe going on, and I associate that more with a baddie. The timing thing doesn't bother me (although I totes get where Epi is coming from - it could be he just didn't want to answer that question hoping it would be forgotten) and although I think the Gman thing is weird I don't think makes him bad. The same thing could be pointed out about MP - why even bring up the question of if it is faked when it would draw so much attention for it.
Golden and TH are also bothering me by their different play but I'm not sure it makes either bad necessarily.
BR is still my biggest suspect for defending MP and then saying she wasn't defending him. I will probably be voting there.
You are my new suspect.
Will elaborate fully when I don't have only like 2 minutes away from class.
Lol alright MP
"not much has happened" in apparently the largest side mission game in recent memory (by Day 2)? granted this post was made in Day 1, but the game was moving quite fast then and a ton of content was in place. so i definitely don't agree with that assessment.fingersplints wrote:The other thing that bothered me about MP was his line about TinyBubbles setting off "ALARM BELLS OF RAGE" for wanting to randomize despite that a lot has happened. Not that much has happened tbh. Some of these long posts are long for the sake of being long tbh
Why is it that crazy for a new person to want to randomize that it would make you rage? That bit seemed weird and forced
Linki - I gotta reread them one at a time. Those guys were mashing together for me a bit there. I don't do well with walls of textI'm not surprised by their reads although I don't agree seem to agree with most of them.
splints's MP vote didn't prove to be very important in the final tally, but i won't call it inconsequential as i did Roxy's vote. this came at a time when the tally was still swingable to multiple players including MP. i would question the "I can't give him a free pass for this again" bit though. if MP's behavior is an alignment-independent thing, then why should it warrant a vote? shouldn't that amount to a null read?fingersplints wrote:I'll comment to the rest of MPs post later but I'm voting him now.
this feigned indignition has become pretty standard for MP. I can't give him a free pass again for this
fingersplints wrote:Yes. I feel like it is more similar to her most recent baddie game I can remember.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:have you noticed similarities between the Elo of this game and the Elo of that game?fingersplints wrote:Maybe I am a little bit clouded by my last experience with a civvie Elo in Roger Rabbit.
Also, I feel like I have suspected Elo a lot for bandwagoning. So while her vote is weird I am not sure that it is that weird for Elo. And I am a bit wary that no one so many people seem to be ok with lynching her.
linki @ Sloonei - Bass is Roxy's son, and that is why I asked her opinion of him earlier. She can read him very well, so if she says he is alright I believe it for now.
these posts i rather like at the moment. Elo opened the phase as the odds-on favorite to be lynched, and this vocal resistance to that is a significant perspective to adopt i think. it's not worth a ton of bonus points, but i like it. if Elo ends up lynched and flips mafia i may feel differently.fingersplints wrote:The major difference is that I had btsc with her in RR for a period or so, but it was an eventful period. And it was during then she learned she had been majorly played by almost everyone else she had btsc with. I feel like her tone now matches that more. It's more reactive and emotionally charged. When she was bad in Zelda I found her to be more dismissive about accusations, and when she was getting lynched I don't remember her getting like this.MovingPictures07 wrote:Splints, can you explain what it is you see that's similar about Elo's game here to her civ game in RR? I'm not seeing it, but it's possible you're catching something that I'm not.
I've explained away so many players' behavior in past games due to meta. I'm sticking to my guns here, even in spite of Elo's meta (since I think this is baddie Elo), since I've already cast my vote, but I'm hoping you can illuminate this matter nonetheless.
who's here?!MovingPictures07 wrote:Well, I'm trying. :P
Jay, I want to play the game now.
Dragon D. SleepyDragon D. Luffy wrote:Aye.
Just say already what it is about. I'm getting sleepy.
i can't say what it is until i know i have participants. that could influence the outcome. need more than 2 for it to be worth anything.Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Aye.
Just say already what it is about. I'm getting sleepy.
Ooooh, good point. Will do.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:hey MP, since you already know what i mean to do... if we don't get enough people tonight, you can still do it sometime when the game is more active. i am stuck in a time zone where the game is often dead when i am awake so, yanno
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:don't be afraid, baddies. this game is for everyone.
see you next MayMovingPictures07 wrote:Where's my ISO Jay
Turnip Head wrote:Where are you rainbow reads MP
Bon voyageJaggedJimmyJay wrote:see you next MayMovingPictures07 wrote:Where's my ISO Jay
Dang!JaggedJimmyJay wrote:bummer. i think we're going to fall short of the requisite number of people.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:i like to think other players are engaged at lively social gatherings. and if i was close enough, i could barge in drenched in sweat with a bottle of jack in hand and an index finger of suspicion pointing straight at them
STOP THE MUSIC. EVERYONE LISTEN. THERE'S A BADDIE IN THIS PARTY AND I HAVE PROOF.
tomorrow.MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm just waiting for my ISO now.
Personal best for most posts?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:i am going to ISO you. i ain't afraid of 300 posts. my personal best is 525.
Lurking is v scummy imoMovingPictures07 wrote:I'm here! Just hidden.
He's definitely mafia.Sloonei wrote:I'm voting for most people.
How do you hide?MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm hidden a good percentage of the time I'm on the site, pretty sure most people do that.
I should. I am.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Sloonei you should read things and then share some delicious perspectives. i'll feast.
Comes in an offers this post early in Day 1 and it seemed to suggest she would be joining in on that a lot of content.acrosstheaether wrote:Where we're from, generating a lot of discussion on day one is a good idea. Gives us more to work from in the future.Golden wrote:My thoughts so far - a few newbies (DDL, JJJ, sanmateo, sloonei) are running straight into a drive by lynch of one of them. Not that I support that, I just feel like it's what you risk by generating so much discussion here on day one.
This post has gone unexplained since it was made, so I'll continue echoing the suspicion of it until an explanation exists.acrosstheaether wrote:Good point.Epignosis wrote:I think Dragon is bad news. He's leaving himself little outs that he can use later.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 76#p142976
Here she echoes the Dragon suspicion with an endlessly vague "don't feel good about them." I'd ask what aether thinks of this read now, and maybe explain what she saw in it early on.acrosstheaether wrote:No substantial thoughts yet... I kinda agree with JJJ on Epi but I disagree with him on DDL. Still don't feel good about them.Sloonei wrote:Hello, have you been able to follow any of this stuff so far? What are your thoughts? What's your password?acrosstheaether wrote:I kept forgetting my password so had to keep retrieving it lol but I got Chrome to remember it this time
This post I really don't like. The bolded part seems like aether giving herself an excuse to hide behind in the shadows. That's almost as scummy as that post I made last game on RYM, imo.acrosstheaether wrote:I don't understand why Golden is the only one with the votes, but oh well, it's day 1, where I'm usually no good. I'll probably be able to dig deeper once more information surfaces.
I also apologise for having been online earlier but not posting. I was confused about whether my amended role was still an error since I rolled the same role twice.
Similar themed post to her first one. Seems to promise a bigger contribution forthcoming and then disappears back into the shadows.acrosstheaether wrote:How do I ISO on this place
Not me.MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm hidden a good percentage of the time I'm on the site, pretty sure most people do that.