Roxy wrote:My spidey sense tells me Epi is a prime candidate for Killface.
I was afraid you might say this.
Very well- it's how the game is played.
Roxy wrote:He has been on a kick to get Killface all game
How does this make me a prime candidate for Killface? I am going for the only member of the Mafia who has a liability- a vote worth two. That provides a trail of data in the voting records that Killface cannot hide from without getting super lucky with Old Spice or Mr. Ford. This appeals to me, especially since I played Breaking Bad on RM as Gus Fring, and my vote was worth
three. You can imagine how troublesome that was, although I think I fared well all things considered.
Roxy wrote:He has no prob crushing his teammates under his bus wheels
How does this make me a prime candidate for Killface? I find that I am far more reluctant to do this than your wording ("no prob") implies. In my memory, I have only gone out of my way to get a teammate lynched once, and that was in Guess Who?- it worked then because I did it right and I had never done it before.
Roxy wrote:His votes are no better or worse than anyone elses
How does this make me a prime candidate for Killface? If my votes are no better or worse than anyone else's, then we're all equally likely to be Killface?
And I don't agree with your premise. I helped lynch two of three dead Mafia. I'd say my votes look pretty damn good. More on those votes in a minute.
Roxy wrote:I also thought Bloop bc her vote choice in a poll was the one who died on Day 4.
This is kind of funny given your observation above about my votes and that I'm the "prime candidate for Killface."
Roxy wrote:So I am leaning heavily in Epi's direction.
I hope you lean elsewhere, given that I tried to make people laugh with my Arte Johnson impersonation, even though people ended up thinking I was seriously insulting people or ignoring them on purpose, and then having a +1 vote handicap to show for his troubles.
If you think I am Killface, then you think my vote must be worth 2.
Behold, then, my votes:
Day 1: I voted Cookie (who was bad). She had two votes. My vote would have put her at three, tied with MM (a civilian whom
you voted for), Sig and Long Con.
If you think I'm Killface, then this means you think I would have tried to throw my teammate under the bus Day 1 while possibly outing myself if Cookie got lynched with only two votes.
That would be veddy interesting, but stupid.
++++
Day 2: I led the lynch on Cookie. If I am Killface, this means I pressed my fake suspicion of Cookie to get her lynched. That's fair, considering that backing off at that point was going to be hard to do.
++++
Day 3: I voted Roxy. It was 5-4 for Made. If I were Killface, then I could have waited to vote instead of voting second overall, risking that I would be found out with such a close vote. It would mean that I most likely caused a tie between Made and Roxy and got lucky that Made got lynched instead.
Made
5
G-Man (6), Roxy (9), sig (10), Saberfish (11), HamburgerBoy (14) 31%
Roxy
4
Epignosis (4), Made (5), MovingPictures07 (7), nijuukyugou (8) 25%
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Day 4: Only four people voted, making it a four-way tie. I voted HamburgerBoy.
If I am Killface, then the person I voted for should have died.
If you believe I have "no prob crushing his teammates under his bus wheels," as Roxy attests, then why risk getting Hambugerboy (a civilian) lynched when I could have waited and hoped on with nijuukyugou to lynch ika. Bingo. My vote stays hidden.
No, I don't think Killface voted at all Day 4. Because it wasn't Hamburgerboy or G-Man, and the person nijuukyugou voted was Wendell. If ninjabubz is Killface, then I think she's played admirably. But I don't think she is, because Elohcin died Night 1, and I don't think she would do that (as well as some other things I pointed out that I don't believe).
Thus, Killface didn't vote Day 4.
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Day 5: Another close vote. This time no one gets lynched.
Russtifinko
3
S~V~S (2), Epignosis (5), Saberfish (13) 21%
Saberfish
4
sig (6), nijuukyugou (10), Roxy (11), Russtifinko (12) 29%
Russti, I believe, took the lynch and used up his protection. That means there was a tie, 4-4. That means either S~V~S or Saberfish is Killface unless Old Spice or Mr. Ford were involved. Neither S~V~S nor Saberfish voted Day 4, which fits that theory.
Looking at this one snapshot in isolation, I
could be Killface if Russ took 4 votes, as I think he did (and it would mean I'd be back to throwing teammates under the bus after taking a day off from that Day 4). However, it doesn't fit the rest of the data.
++++
Day 6: Another close vote, this time in the opposite direction.
Russtifinko
4
Roxy (7), DisgruntledPorcupine (8), nijuukyugou (9), Epignosis (11) 36%
Saberfish
3
sig (3), Russtifinko (5), S~V~S (6) 27%
Here, Russ actually does get lynched with four votes.
Saberfish doesn't vote.
S~V~S does, but she votes for a person she says she doesn't suspect to make us listen to her about Russ. I still don't understand how that would work.
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I think my voting record clears me from being Killface.
You know what else I think?
I don't think Roxy is a civilian.
Roxy wrote:Epi - you knew she hated being mafia. I could see you bus her but
I do agree it is more likely you would have helped her.
I guess you think I am a shitty player that could offer her no advice or help her in anyway if I had bts with her. That I would have let her flop around without help while helping to drive her lynch.

Now Roxy claims that
Roxy wrote:He has no prob crushing his teammates under his bus wheels
Can't be both.
Consider the phrasing of these two statements:
Roxy wrote:And yep I am defensive bc I am civ

Day 3, when it looked like Roxy might be lynched, she said this:
Roxy wrote:And I am really trying my damnest to help the town this game.

Trying to "help the town this game." That's not something a civilian would say on her way out the door.
That's because Roxy isn't a civilian. She's an independent- one who needs some more civilians dead in order to secure her win condition. Why else point the finger at me, and, to a lesser extent, nijuukyugou, but not breath a word about S~V~S or Saberfish despite voting records that indicate Killface?
Either that, or she herself is bad. After all:
Roxy wrote:And I am really trying my damnest to help the town this game.

Roxy wrote:but baddies help civ's all the time.
