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if Alison was mafia I'd think she'd distribute powers differently than she has been, and from what I understand of her lore, she'd probably not play such a laid back game if she had a win condition that relied on other people?
I think this was most recent?tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:17 pm
DEAD:
cat - yeeted d1 - post silencer. put in contact with jackofhearts during d2 by hyena's communicator role
dyachei - killed n1 - vengeful. attempted to be put in contact with (nutella?) during d3 by hyena's role, allegedly they were afk
marmot - yeeted d2 - tetris blockhead - long con claims to have played tetris on d2 so allegedly marmot visited LC n1; MR claims to have played tetris on d3 so allegedly a role that uses power of dead targeted MR during n3
mac - killed n2 - neighbourizer - targeted nutella at (some point?); nutella claims to have had BTSC with mac during d2 and n3; i think he was 1-shot. put in contact with timsup2nothing during d4 by hyena's role
falcon - killed n3 - negative utility umm vanilla town - presumably dead because ran out of spiders
nanook - killed n3 - mafia goon with no abilities. shot by kyle n3 using tim's vig shot
LIVING:
112 - claims to have targeted someone during n2; her action failed and she was vaguely told of that (relation to MR's redirector-esque claim)
Alison - claims 3p gambit demon. chooses a target at day, they converse during night and accept or reject, at the end of the following day the deal is sealed and on the following night target can use action.
d1 long con tracker effective as of n2
d2 kyle steal-power-for-1-night-of-person-u-voted effective as of n3 (so d4)
d3 falcon protective effective as of n4
she redirects all night actions and votes that were supposed to land on her to her target instead if they accept the deal. she has hard claimed all the power she can give and everything about her role
DrWilgy - claims that he has some target that he needs to protect at all cost, including (i think) getting roleblocked?
Dyslexicon - claims to have protected nutella during n3 and to know that his action was successful. backs up that martin's claim is real, and that dizzy stopped the negative part of martins role, but the positive one succeeded (dizzy was alerted of this).
Hyena - a role that lets a dead person be in BTSC with living person. n1 - cat with jack (confirmed by jack). n2 - dyachei with (i forgot who, nutella?). n3 - mac with tim (confirmed by tim). tracked by long con during n3 and seen visiting tim and mac
JackofHearts2005 - some kind of cop that forces target to quote. holstered on all nights; thought his role is funny words
JustPlayingitcool - claims that there was some kind of benefit to the number of people on marmot's wagon reaching 8 or more. also claimed to have received something during n2 that he isnt sure whether or not its positive or negative
Kylemii - claimed that he needed to be silenced during d2 to power himself up. claimed that he knows falcon and long con are same alignment unless he was roleblocked or one of those is 3p. on d4 claims mech info that tutuu is town. also used alison's power steal to steal tim's shot on n3 and use it to shoot nanook. played baseball on day 3 and hit the ball
Long Con - claims to have played tetris on d2. soft cleared by kyle's mech info. n2 forgot to submit track and it was stolen by marmot anyway. n3 tracked hyena and saw him visiting mac and tim. there is a scenario where he is mafia so watch out
Made - claims some kind of baseball role
Master Radishes - claims a redirector-esque role. n1 - nanook to presumably no effect. n2 - 112 to some effect. n3 - hollowkatt to no effect according to hkat. has won a roleblock by syn's tetris, that is yet to be used i believe
MartinGG99 - claims a role that has both positive and negative utility. they go hand in hand . n1 falcon. n2 JPIC. n3 nutella. 1/2 of his action on nutella failed. dizzy can partially back it up
Michelle - something made her unable to receive votes during day 2 (it was not a host error)
nutella - was in neighbourhood with mac. was not attacked on n3 (im not sure if this was confirmed by her or by martin or dizzy or multiple people). swapped with jack by her own abiilty
Sloonei - silenced d2 by syn
Syn - backup of the yeet. n1 uset cat's silencer to silence sloonei. n2 used marmot's tetris to play vs MR, scored 0 on purpose. n3 used jack's role on i think nanook?
tedxtr - no info
hollowkatt - claims a passive role that has self-defensive properties and that can't be disrupted. MR claims to have disrupted his target on n3. hollowkatt claims that he received no notification.
Timsup2nothin - n3 vig. shot tutuu on n3. shot failed due to kyle sealing it
TonyStarkPrime - no info (i think)
tutuu - allegedly town by kyle's mech info claim. played baseball on day 2 and hit the ball
I've thought about Alison being scum, but (a) she has clearly been making deals, which fits the GD role from Shadow Corridors, which was a 3P there too; (b) she has clearly been giving deals to townies more or less; and (c) she likes wolfing and wouldn't slank like this.Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:28 pmif Alison was mafia I'd think she'd distribute powers differently than she has been, and from what I understand of her lore, she'd probably not play such a laid back game if she had a win condition that relied on other people?
idk. this is an interesting question though.
I though Monday the 29th was today because yesterday was the 28th but then I remembered that February only has 28 days most of the time, and THEN I read the March part
Find a wolf? Or at least look for one. At least half the Ted voters have acknowledged that he's probably not a wolf. They are voting him because he's claimed 3P and they are, in their estimation, such big dick town that we have this won anyway and can spare spare the time to just kill the 3P before we even look for the wolf or wolves. As the town (mostly) confirmed that has no significant mech power I think I have a very good chance of being stuck in this all the way to F3 if it gets that far, and I am not looking forward to mucking through all this "yeah let's just chop Ted and figure the wolf thing will get sorted out later" bullshit.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:16 pmYes, a bunch are dead and that's great, and some 3p are dead too! Importantly, less town are dead than could be.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:30 amLOL...sure man...best way to blend in has always been harassing the town core. Mafia 101.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:28 am Maybe Tim is a wolf. I can't believe he's this whiny about a game where his team is winnings handily, and I've been assuming he's doing this on purpose. But like, if you want to take on the role of not letting your team get complacent, you so the work to poke at the fringes yourself, not complain and degrade your team's work incessantly.
So maybe he's just a wolf who is hoping to get to a stage where he can say he told us so and foster confusion and paranoia. Considering the flipped scum roles so far have been collectively pretty weak, maybe he was their extra KP.
I just disagree about the "winning handily" part. A bunch of wolves are dead, and that's great. But some number remain and I don't see any indication that anyone has the first clue who they are. Case in point "well, beats me, how about the irritating guy?"
You say we don't have the first clue where the wolves are, but I'm also not seeing you giving insight of your own, just complaining that we're not winning hard enough.
so how do we win harder, Tim?
yeah. Like the parts about her role that we can verify clearly point towards the 3p part being true. If anything is fake about her claim it's not the alignment part.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:30 pmI've thought about Alison being scum, but (a) she has clearly been making deals, which fits the GD role from Shadow Corridors, which was a 3P there too; (b) she has clearly been giving deals to townies more or less; and (c) she likes wolfing and wouldn't slank like this.Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:28 pmif Alison was mafia I'd think she'd distribute powers differently than she has been, and from what I understand of her lore, she'd probably not play such a laid back game if she had a win condition that relied on other people?
idk. this is an interesting question though.
Well, makes sense, tyMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:30 pmI've thought about Alison being scum, but (a) she has clearly been making deals, which fits the GD role from Shadow Corridors, which was a 3P there too; (b) she has clearly been giving deals to townies more or less; and (c) she likes wolfing and wouldn't slank like this.Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:28 pmif Alison was mafia I'd think she'd distribute powers differently than she has been, and from what I understand of her lore, she'd probably not play such a laid back game if she had a win condition that relied on other people?
idk. this is an interesting question though.
This is smart.
the way you have played this game genuinely makes me question whether or not I'll ever play another game with you againTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:33 pmFind a wolf? Or at least look for one. At least half the Ted voters have acknowledged that he's probably not a wolf. They are voting him because he's claimed 3P and they are, in their estimation, such big dick town that we have this won anyway and can spare spare the time to just kill the 3P before we even look for the wolf or wolves. As the town (mostly) confirmed that has no significant mech power I think I have a very good chance of being stuck in this all the way to F3 if it gets that far, and I am not looking forward to mucking through all this "yeah let's just chop Ted and figure the wolf thing will get sorted out later" bullshit.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:16 pmYes, a bunch are dead and that's great, and some 3p are dead too! Importantly, less town are dead than could be.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:30 amLOL...sure man...best way to blend in has always been harassing the town core. Mafia 101.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:28 am Maybe Tim is a wolf. I can't believe he's this whiny about a game where his team is winnings handily, and I've been assuming he's doing this on purpose. But like, if you want to take on the role of not letting your team get complacent, you so the work to poke at the fringes yourself, not complain and degrade your team's work incessantly.
So maybe he's just a wolf who is hoping to get to a stage where he can say he told us so and foster confusion and paranoia. Considering the flipped scum roles so far have been collectively pretty weak, maybe he was their extra KP.
I just disagree about the "winning handily" part. A bunch of wolves are dead, and that's great. But some number remain and I don't see any indication that anyone has the first clue who they are. Case in point "well, beats me, how about the irritating guy?"
You say we don't have the first clue where the wolves are, but I'm also not seeing you giving insight of your own, just complaining that we're not winning hard enough.
so how do we win harder, Tim?
Bless you, i would feel forced to read itMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:33 pm Actually screw it, I can't be bothered to update that.
I can vote you tooTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:37 pmIf someone has a "but Radish is lock town" dispute to throw at this, please get at it.
LmaoMichelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:37 pmBless you, i would feel forced to read itMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:33 pm Actually screw it, I can't be bothered to update that.
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:39 pm Michelle might be low-key the funniest person in this game tbh. I can't count how many times she's made me giggle at something she's said.
Made was extremely villagery fmpov but i don't remember if it was for tonally or for other reasons and i need him to postMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:42 pm I thought there was a decent-ish reason we put Made aside as an option but I can't remember what it is now.
No, wolves say awooohollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:19 pmthat's such a wolf thing to say
I'm lazy. Direct me to this?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:47 pm Lol are people starting to suspect made now after he went up in my reads due to the sloonei flip?
someday I hope to pull off a bullshit prestige move like that. no one would ever be able to town read me againMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:42 pmProbably mech not scum because how fucking elaborate a lie would that be? And like he vigged Nanook so
Kyle
I made word salad at SoDMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:48 pmI'm lazy. Direct me to this?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:47 pm Lol are people starting to suspect made now after he went up in my reads due to the sloonei flip?
I don't suspect Made per se. I just can't remember why I don't.
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:38 pm I think the Sloonei flip has told me a lot, and not just from sloonei flipping ‘mafia’, but also his role told me a lot.
So, from that flip, I think tutuu is pretty much spewed not mafia from sloonei’s role. Sloonei throws balls at people, and this aligns with what tutuu said back in D2 and was unsure if to hit or not hit the ball. Mafia don’t generally try and kill mafia. @everyone, is there anyone else who had a ball thrown at them? Could help clear some people.
I also think Michelle looks good and probably not mafia. Michelle spent most of the last day suspecting tutuu, even going as far as looking through Sloonei’s ISO. I feel like if you were someone aligned with sloonei who had the TMI on his role, you would know that flip would eventually make tutuu look good because you’d remember trying to previously kill tutuu with a baseball as a partner. Sloonei yeet was also a foregone conclusion for a good chunk of the day so I do not feel it is faked. This read is obviously weaker than the tutuu one above, obviously.
Made was also vocal on Sloonei earlier on, even before the cop when I didn’t really see a case there, so Made goes up a lot in my estimations in terms of being a town read.
I also read sloonei’s ISO just a few hours ago and boy is HK bled to death with green blood. Sloonei wanted to kill HK at every opportunity. So HK = town. Literally read his ISO.
I don’t know where this leaves me with my previous town reads, but I still do firmly believe Syn is still town after the whole radish thing.
[VOTE: Tim] aubergine what if I say I found one and it's you?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:33 pmFind a wolf? Or at least look for one. At least half the Ted voters have acknowledged that he's probably not a wolf. They are voting him because he's claimed 3P and they are, in their estimation, such big dick town that we have this won anyway and can spare spare the time to just kill the 3P before we even look for the wolf or wolves. As the town (mostly) confirmed that has no significant mech power I think I have a very good chance of being stuck in this all the way to F3 if it gets that far, and I am not looking forward to mucking through all this "yeah let's just chop Ted and figure the wolf thing will get sorted out later" bullshit.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:16 pmYes, a bunch are dead and that's great, and some 3p are dead too! Importantly, less town are dead than could be.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:30 amLOL...sure man...best way to blend in has always been harassing the town core. Mafia 101.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:28 am Maybe Tim is a wolf. I can't believe he's this whiny about a game where his team is winnings handily, and I've been assuming he's doing this on purpose. But like, if you want to take on the role of not letting your team get complacent, you so the work to poke at the fringes yourself, not complain and degrade your team's work incessantly.
So maybe he's just a wolf who is hoping to get to a stage where he can say he told us so and foster confusion and paranoia. Considering the flipped scum roles so far have been collectively pretty weak, maybe he was their extra KP.
I just disagree about the "winning handily" part. A bunch of wolves are dead, and that's great. But some number remain and I don't see any indication that anyone has the first clue who they are. Case in point "well, beats me, how about the irritating guy?"
You say we don't have the first clue where the wolves are, but I'm also not seeing you giving insight of your own, just complaining that we're not winning hard enough.
so how do we win harder, Tim?
given that Syndicate doesn't have the :howl: emoji I had to type it out
Syn silenced Sloonei. He's as mech cleared town as anyone.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:42 pm Mech lock town no one ever tinfoil
Jack
TSP
Probably mech not scum because how fucking elaborate a lie would that be? And like he vigged Nanook so
Kyle
If above is correct then SHOULD be town but there’s room for doubt I guess + both have been targeted by known scum at some point
Long Con
Tutuu
Just strongly strongly TR
JPIC
Syn
Maybe indy maybe not
Ted
Indy doing her own thaaang
Alison
-
Leftover (in no order) – I can’t necessarily eliminate any of these I guess
Michelle
Made
Hollowkatt
Wilgy
Tim
Hyena
Dizzy
-
Technically LC and tutuu (and Kyle?) go back in the PoE if Ted flips 3P because there'd be mech questions about Kyle getting dingdinged.
And that last group includes people I'm pretty confident are town but can't technically eliminate I guess.
I'd laugh at you until you came up with an actual case for me to take apart.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:50 pm[VOTE: Tim] aubergine what if I say I found one and it's you?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:33 pmFind a wolf? Or at least look for one. At least half the Ted voters have acknowledged that he's probably not a wolf. They are voting him because he's claimed 3P and they are, in their estimation, such big dick town that we have this won anyway and can spare spare the time to just kill the 3P before we even look for the wolf or wolves. As the town (mostly) confirmed that has no significant mech power I think I have a very good chance of being stuck in this all the way to F3 if it gets that far, and I am not looking forward to mucking through all this "yeah let's just chop Ted and figure the wolf thing will get sorted out later" bullshit.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:16 pmYes, a bunch are dead and that's great, and some 3p are dead too! Importantly, less town are dead than could be.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:30 amLOL...sure man...best way to blend in has always been harassing the town core. Mafia 101.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:28 am Maybe Tim is a wolf. I can't believe he's this whiny about a game where his team is winnings handily, and I've been assuming he's doing this on purpose. But like, if you want to take on the role of not letting your team get complacent, you so the work to poke at the fringes yourself, not complain and degrade your team's work incessantly.
So maybe he's just a wolf who is hoping to get to a stage where he can say he told us so and foster confusion and paranoia. Considering the flipped scum roles so far have been collectively pretty weak, maybe he was their extra KP.
I just disagree about the "winning handily" part. A bunch of wolves are dead, and that's great. But some number remain and I don't see any indication that anyone has the first clue who they are. Case in point "well, beats me, how about the irritating guy?"
You say we don't have the first clue where the wolves are, but I'm also not seeing you giving insight of your own, just complaining that we're not winning hard enough.
so how do we win harder, Tim?
I agree with you that Syn is pretty much clear due to sloonei silence. Sloonei also sort of TMI'd syn town as well with the power of hindsight.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:53 pmSyn silenced Sloonei. He's as mech cleared town as anyone.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:42 pm Mech lock town no one ever tinfoil
Jack
TSP
Probably mech not scum because how fucking elaborate a lie would that be? And like he vigged Nanook so
Kyle
If above is correct then SHOULD be town but there’s room for doubt I guess + both have been targeted by known scum at some point
Long Con
Tutuu
Just strongly strongly TR
JPIC
Syn
Maybe indy maybe not
Ted
Indy doing her own thaaang
Alison
-
Leftover (in no order) – I can’t necessarily eliminate any of these I guess
Michelle
Made
Hollowkatt
Wilgy
Tim
Hyena
Dizzy
-
Technically LC and tutuu (and Kyle?) go back in the PoE if Ted flips 3P because there'd be mech questions about Kyle getting dingdinged.
And that last group includes people I'm pretty confident are town but can't technically eliminate I guess.
JPIC despite all the "oh just bleeds green, trust me" reads has no particular actions that are town indicative that I recall.
I'd get rid of that category altogether.
I'd put Hyena in the mech clears. His claim is verified, and he has "used his power for good" consistently. Admittedly if he were a wolf he certainly couldn't use it any other way, but I don't think a wolf is put in such a lame position by hosts.
Nah. I've been muted. I don't care how busy Sloonei is he never asks to be muted.
