The Syndicate

Ah lol, so not only did ika barge in with a sector check #3 an hour after the mark, thinking he's alone on this planet and nobody else planned to take care of it on time, but he missed by two minutes his sector check #2, and yet he wants to be judgemental about future volunteers posting on precise mark.

The definition of laughable.

ika should be given no more attention in his principles on this matter and should be punished for mutiny if he ever interferes with the future queue. Nothing in his history of contribution makes him reliable. Zilch.

Ricochet wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Ricochet wrote:LC twisting the point himself is increasingly suspicious, as well.

What? I'm being frakking agreeable here! What have I twisted?

That ika makes a good point, because time is of the essence. You screwed up with check #3 as you pleased, so don't move the goalposts by saying now that it was based on principles.

Hey, think what you want of my action, I explained it in all the detail I possibly could already, from one end of the spectrum (mischievous fun) to the other (dissatisafaction with the plan). I haven't moved any goalposts even a slight bit. The ika point I agree with is that time is the most important factor. I screwed with #3 because which square is NOT the most important factor. If I had somehow messed with the timing, then I could understand the ire it has raised in some.

Gotta run some errands, be back in a bit.

Please, I'd like to hear more of people talking about lynching a role who is constantly risking her own life for the sake of the human race, on the show.

Silverwolf wrote:I'm just going to throw this link in here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=61545

This is a Battlestar Galactica game on another site where cylons were the bad guys and humans were good.

Relevance to current game and current Host's possible intentions to design this game?

indiglo wrote:So your entire excuse that you just posted for doing what you did about "me not doing at the correct time" and you did do it at the correct time is a bunch of yucky lunch meat? Because in reality, you just did it to be funny? I see.

Yes. And I didn't use that as an excuse for anything, I pointed out the fact that, in hindsight, I was there to make the call and you were not there until a minute or two later. I did not say that I made the call because I thought you would be late. I've been clear about why I did it.

Matt wrote:Gotta run some errands, be back in a bit.

Please, I'd like to hear more of people talking about lynching a role who is constantly risking her own life for the sake of the human race, on the show.

Your win condition must be very different than mine.

I'll say this before logging off for a while. All of this has still been extremely helpful to me in my reads. So I'm still glad we are dealing with our plan, etc. While I have found the discussion about as enjoyable as banging my head against a wall at times, I do still feel like it really helped me. So that's something.

Updated schedule, I'll add adjustments as things actually happen. (Like if someone is late, or someone oversteps the volunteer's time slot)

May 8, 11:47 pm EST - ika, A1
May 9, 5:47 5:49 am EST - ika, A3
May 9, 11:49 am EST - indiglo, A5 LC, D5
May 9, 5:49 pm EST - Silverwolf
May 9, 11:49 pm EST - Marmot
May 10, 5:49 am EST - SVS
May 10, 11:49 am EST - juliets
May 10, 5:49 pm EST - ???
May 10, 11:49 pm EST - ???

Long Con wrote:

Matt wrote:Gotta run some errands, be back in a bit.

Please, I'd like to hear more of people talking about lynching a role who is constantly risking her own life for the sake of the human race, on the show.

Your win condition must be very different than mine.

I'd wager a guess that mine is. I chose to be killing *mafia* not *cylons*.

so long con when did you post your?

so long con when did you post your?

Players: if you might not be around for a time-slot, don't sign up for it.

That said, being a couple minutes late won't hurt us. It does push us back each time, but those couple minutes won't accumulate enough to be meaningful.

Ricochet wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:I'm just going to throw this link in here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=61545

This is a Battlestar Galactica game on another site where cylons were the bad guys and humans were good.

Relevance to current game and current Host's possible intentions to design this game?

Because this game was heavily based on Battlestar Galactica lore like some are using here to say Epi is town. This is not this case. Cylons need to die in order for humans to win. I can't be more clear about this if I tried. Try reading some of it, and you might understand why I posted it.

I'm voting Epi as soon as the res ship is gone and will keep doing so until he is dead.

Also, you will lynch ika over my dead body. I will not lynch a town and will scumread anyone trying to policy lynch him automatically. I will fight this to the bitter end. I do not want my townreads to be lynched because people don't like his playstyle.

We get a lot of grief on playstyle and I'd recommend this site be more open to other's play if you want to attract and retain new players and a bigger player base.

If there is a scum related reason for lynching ika, I'd love to hear it.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Players: if you might not be around for a time-slot, don't sign up for it.

That said, being a couple minutes late won't hurt us. It does push us back each time, but those couple minutes won't accumulate enough to be meaningful.

ok, here i gonna make it more clear so nobody can accuse me of mutiy and the middle ground.

i got the last 2 slots filled, anyone else who has one can do it but if they are 10 mins late im posting.

is that fair enough?

Silverwolf wrote:
If there is a scum related reason for lynching ika, I'd love to hear it.

i think the acusation right now is that im basicly being anti town for following a plan?

ika wrote:so long con when did you post your?

ika wrote:so long con when did you post your?

My what? My what?

Silverwolf wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:I'm just going to throw this link in here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=61545

This is a Battlestar Galactica game on another site where cylons were the bad guys and humans were good.

Relevance to current game and current Host's possible intentions to design this game?

Because this game was heavily based on Battlestar Galactica lore like some are using here to say Epi is town. This is not this case. Cylons need to die in order for humans to win. I can't be more clear about this if I tried. Try reading some of it, and you might understand why I posted it.

Where does it say that on the front page?

Try reading what? We're not playing that game on MS, we're playing this one on Syndicate. Again, relevance?

Inference that this game must be about as basic as another game that proved highly basic is about the silliest fallacy possible.

ika wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Players: if you might not be around for a time-slot, don't sign up for it.

That said, being a couple minutes late won't hurt us. It does push us back each time, but those couple minutes won't accumulate enough to be meaningful.

ok, here i gonna make it more clear so nobody can accuse me of mutiy and the middle ground.

i got the last 2 slots filled, anyone else who has one can do it but if they are 10 mins late im posting.

is that fair enough?

I think it sounds fair. If something happens to the original missionary, we can't just wait around.

Better you than the ever-mischievous Long Con.

Tough shit Ricochet. Others might be interested. Yours and others strong willingness to say Epi is good or shoot down those trying to say otherwise, is an auto scumread from me.

Because your wincon is antitown then or scum.

Ricochet wrote:Inference that this game must be about as basic as another game that proved highly basic is about the silliest fallacy possible.

who said that, that is the reason? the point she is trying to make here is that cyclosn are scum in gerneal and a game there shows that its the same, hell the lore itself says they are sucm and the entire plot of the thing seems to be killing cylons so whats your damn point?

ika wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Players: if you might not be around for a time-slot, don't sign up for it.

That said, being a couple minutes late won't hurt us. It does push us back each time, but those couple minutes won't accumulate enough to be meaningful.

ok, here i gonna make it more clear so nobody can accuse me of mutiy and the middle ground.

i got the last 2 slots filled, anyone else who has one can do it but if they are 10 mins late im posting.

is that fair enough?

I am honestly ok with that too, ika. And I appreciate your willingness to continue discussing this, and break it down to this basic part. Thank you.

indiglo wrote:

ika wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Players: if you might not be around for a time-slot, don't sign up for it.

That said, being a couple minutes late won't hurt us. It does push us back each time, but those couple minutes won't accumulate enough to be meaningful.

ok, here i gonna make it more clear so nobody can accuse me of mutiy and the middle ground.

i got the last 2 slots filled, anyone else who has one can do it but if they are 10 mins late im posting.

is that fair enough?

I am honestly ok with that too, ika. And I appreciate your willingness to continue discussing this, and break it down to this basic part. Thank you.

when people (ie ricotech) basicly try to perosnaly insult me and act like i have no idea what im doing, im gonan fight hard. if you jus ttalk to me in a sensable fasion i can be quite nice

the only thing i will had stance every time no amtter what is silverwolf alignemt and what is scum

I am leaving in 5 minutes for a Dr. appt. I will have my phone with me but if I can't post in time, ika has said he will do it. I will let him know if it is needed.

Also, anyone defending Epi can die after he does when Epi flips scum. If he flips town, then this game is a Bastard game where the mod is allowed to mislead the players and I did not see it advertised as a bastard game.

Changing wincons is different. That's not what this is about.

Gotta go............

Silverwolf wrote:Tough shit Ricochet. Others might be interested. Yours and others strong willingness to say Epi is good or shoot down those trying to say otherwise, is an auto scumread from me.

Because your wincon is antitown then or scum.

You cannot define town and scum roles on this game. You are even trying to doing it based on another game from another forum.

I have faith in the game being complex and lore-based. I'm willing to talk about it, which is something you and ika are nowhere near responsive towards. I am also human, so by definition I cannot be scum in your narrow perspective.

I think you also have an "agenda" to have all Cylons destroyed and good luck with that. My "agenda" is defeating the mafia. So far, there's no certainty that involves purely Cylons and all Cylons.

I tried to update this grid with where we are now. Could someone double check? I marked A3 and D5 as done


A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 A6
B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6
C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6
D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 D6
E1 E2 E3 E4 E5 E6
F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6

Silverwolf wrote:Tough shit Ricochet. Others might be interested. Yours and others strong willingness to say Epi is good or shoot down those trying to say otherwise, is an auto scumread from me.

Because your wincon is antitown then or scum.

Barring shenani actions such as Epi really being Boomer but appearing as Athena upon death, Epi is good. Scum read me, vote me, I don't care. I'll be saying this until the end of the game.

Please tell me, Silverwolf, why do you want to destroy a role who is willing to do anything for the good of the human race?

Please, answer.

Also, still here for about 20, 30 min apparently.

juliets wrote:I tried to update this grid with where we are now. Could someone double check? I marked A3 and D5 as done


A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 A6
B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6
C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6
D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 D6
E1 E2 E3 E4 E5 E6
F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6

Thanks juliets! You done good.

Silverwolf wrote: Also, anyone defending Epi can die after he does when Epi flips scum. If he flips town, then this game is a Bastard game where the mod is allowed to mislead the players and I did not see it advertised as a bastard game.

Epi has flipped Cylon, there's no mention of his traditional alignment in the Host Post, which is something we almost always cover in Day lynches when hosting games here. Even this mere fact should make you think about the implications of that.

The Host has not mislead the players so far to anything, because there is no written mention that all humans are civilians and all cylons are mafia. You are infering that from expectations of a basic game and, as far as I can see, from proof of a basic template in a different game from a different forum from another time. I find that inconclusive.

Ricochet wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:Tough shit Ricochet. Others might be interested. Yours and others strong willingness to say Epi is good or shoot down those trying to say otherwise, is an auto scumread from me.

Because your wincon is antitown then or scum.

You cannot define town and scum roles on this game. You are even trying to doing it based on another game from another forum.

I have faith in the game being complex and lore-based. I'm willing to talk about it, which is something you and ika are nowhere near responsive towards. I am also human, so by definition I cannot be scum in your narrow perspective.

I think you also have an "agenda" to have all Cylons destroyed and good luck with that. My "agenda" is defeating the mafia. So far, there's no certainty that involves purely Cylons and all Cylons.

your missing the poitn entirely rico, the point is that overall (and yes i started lookign at lor itself) that LITARLTY its cylon vs humans in the end

Ricochet wrote:

Silverwolf wrote: Also, anyone defending Epi can die after he does when Epi flips scum. If he flips town, then this game is a Bastard game where the mod is allowed to mislead the players and I did not see it advertised as a bastard game.

Epi has flipped Cylon, there's no mention of his traditional alignment in the Host Post, which is something we almost always cover in Day lynches when hosting games here. Even this mere fact should make you think about the implications of that.

The Host has not mislead the players so far to anything, because there is no written mention that all humans are civilians and all cylons are mafia. You are infering that from expectations of a basic game and, as far as I can see, from proof of a basic template in a different game from a different forum from another time. I find that inconclusive.

OK, there are 2 known roles that have spcici abilites that are against cylons
THE POLL ITSELF SAY WHO IS A CYLON
THE LORE IS ABOUT CYLONS VS HUMANS

i dont think you can argue much more rico, cylons are sucm

ika wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:Tough shit Ricochet. Others might be interested. Yours and others strong willingness to say Epi is good or shoot down those trying to say otherwise, is an auto scumread from me.

Because your wincon is antitown then or scum.

You cannot define town and scum roles on this game. You are even trying to doing it based on another game from another forum.

I have faith in the game being complex and lore-based. I'm willing to talk about it, which is something you and ika are nowhere near responsive towards. I am also human, so by definition I cannot be scum in your narrow perspective.

I think you also have an "agenda" to have all Cylons destroyed and good luck with that. My "agenda" is defeating the mafia. So far, there's no certainty that involves purely Cylons and all Cylons.

your missing the poitn entirely rico, the point is that overall (and yes i started lookign at lor itself) that LITARLTY its cylon vs humans in the end

Nah, it's literally humans and cylons vs cylons in the end.

Matt wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:Tough shit Ricochet. Others might be interested. Yours and others strong willingness to say Epi is good or shoot down those trying to say otherwise, is an auto scumread from me.

Because your wincon is antitown then or scum.

Barring shenani actions such as Epi really being Boomer but appearing as Athena upon death, Epi is good. Scum read me, vote me, I don't care. I'll be saying this until the end of the game.

Please tell me, Silverwolf, why do you want to destroy a role who is willing to do anything for the good of the human race?

Please, answer.

Also, still here for about 20, 30 min apparently.

maybce cus cylons are scum and that they need to be dead?

ika wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Inference that this game must be about as basic as another game that proved highly basic is about the silliest fallacy possible.

who said that, that is the reason? the point she is trying to make here is that cyclosn are scum in gerneal and a game there shows that its the same, hell the lore itself says they are sucm and the entire plot of the thing seems to be killing cylons so whats your damn point?

The lore (theme) itself in a Battlestar Galactica on MS is the same as in a Battlestar Galactica on Syndicate? Wow, you blew me mind. Let me guess, is the lore Battlestar Galactica?

Cylons were scum in the game she referenced. Cylons were ultimately not all "scum" in the lore, since you brought it up. There's no confirmation of all cylons being scum in ths game. The game she referenced thus proves nothing. That's my "damn point".

Matt wrote:
Nah, it's literally humans and cylons vs cylons in the end.

you have now proven my poitn that cylons are scum they should all die

Ricochet wrote:

ika wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Inference that this game must be about as basic as another game that proved highly basic is about the silliest fallacy possible.

who said that, that is the reason? the point she is trying to make here is that cyclosn are scum in gerneal and a game there shows that its the same, hell the lore itself says they are sucm and the entire plot of the thing seems to be killing cylons so whats your damn point?

The lore (theme) itself in a Battlestar Galactica on MS is the same as in a Battlestar Galactica on Syndicate? Wow, you blew me mind. Let me guess, is the lore Battlestar Galactica?

Cylons were scum in the game she referenced. Cylons were ultimately not all "scum" in the lore, since you brought it up. There's no confirmation of all cylons being scum in ths game. The game she referenced thus proves nothing. That's my "damn point".

it porves cylons are scum in the big picture. eve you admit it yourse fland matt, admit cylons are scum so your only proving mypoint more

ika wrote:

Matt wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:Tough shit Ricochet. Others might be interested. Yours and others strong willingness to say Epi is good or shoot down those trying to say otherwise, is an auto scumread from me.

Because your wincon is antitown then or scum.

Barring shenani actions such as Epi really being Boomer but appearing as Athena upon death, Epi is good. Scum read me, vote me, I don't care. I'll be saying this until the end of the game.

Please tell me, Silverwolf, why do you want to destroy a role who is willing to do anything for the good of the human race?

Please, answer.

Also, still here for about 20, 30 min apparently.

maybce cus cylons are scum and that they need to be dead?

Answer the question. Why do you want to destroy a role who has done nothing but kick ass for the humans in the show the game is based on?

Why did Golden tell everyone to put trust in those who know the lore of the show? Why?

ika wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Silverwolf wrote: Also, anyone defending Epi can die after he does when Epi flips scum. If he flips town, then this game is a Bastard game where the mod is allowed to mislead the players and I did not see it advertised as a bastard game.

Epi has flipped Cylon, there's no mention of his traditional alignment in the Host Post, which is something we almost always cover in Day lynches when hosting games here. Even this mere fact should make you think about the implications of that.

The Host has not mislead the players so far to anything, because there is no written mention that all humans are civilians and all cylons are mafia. You are infering that from expectations of a basic game and, as far as I can see, from proof of a basic template in a different game from a different forum from another time. I find that inconclusive.

OK, there are 2 known roles that have spcici abilites that are against cylons
THE POLL ITSELF SAY WHO IS A CYLON
THE LORE IS ABOUT CYLONS VS HUMANS

i dont think you can argue much more rico, cylons are sucm

Oh wow, moving the goalposts, so now the poll title is relevant to deciphering the design of this game? Lol no. A lynch poll is a lynch poll, Hosts flavor the question however they wish.

The lore is not fully about cylons vs humans, if the entire series was transposed into this (which the Final Five detail may prove to be the case).

ika wrote:

Matt wrote:
Nah, it's literally humans and cylons vs cylons in the end.

you have now proven my poitn that cylons are scum they should all die

No, he has now proven you wrong that all cylons are bad. If we're going to be siding with them to defeat others, that means that the ones that we side with aren't the ones we should focus on defeating. Capiche?

Matt wrote:

ika wrote:

Matt wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:Tough shit Ricochet. Others might be interested. Yours and others strong willingness to say Epi is good or shoot down those trying to say otherwise, is an auto scumread from me.

Because your wincon is antitown then or scum.

Barring shenani actions such as Epi really being Boomer but appearing as Athena upon death, Epi is good. Scum read me, vote me, I don't care. I'll be saying this until the end of the game.

Please tell me, Silverwolf, why do you want to destroy a role who is willing to do anything for the good of the human race?

Please, answer.

Also, still here for about 20, 30 min apparently.

maybce cus cylons are scum and that they need to be dead?

Answer the question. Why do you want to destroy a role who has done nothing but kick ass for the humans in the show the game is based on?

Why did Golden tell everyone to put trust in those who know the lore of the show? Why?

i think my question answers you damn question just fine in itself. YES I WANT THE FUCKIGN CYLON DEAD

he did? quote it i take that for a grain of salt anyways. if he did

I'll say it again, it's racism lol. I haven't even seen the show and even I know that not all the cylons are bad.

a2thezebra wrote:

ika wrote:

Matt wrote:
Nah, it's literally humans and cylons vs cylons in the end.

you have now proven my poitn that cylons are scum they should all die

No, he has now proven you wrong that all cylons are bad. If we're going to be siding with them to defeat others, that means that the ones that we side with aren't the ones we should focus on defeating. Capiche?

nope, he said cylons are evil in ther himself, it doesnt matter what it is, cylonds must die

You're just being stubborn at this point, you know you're wrong.

Ricochet wrote:
Oh wow, moving the goalposts, so now the poll title is relevant to deciphering the design of this game? Lol no. A lynch poll is a lynch poll, Hosts flavor the question however they wish.

The lore is not fully about cylons vs humans, if the entire series was transposed into this (which the Final Five detail may prove to be the case).

funny, i mentioned it earlier and you said nothign about it. im jsut saying what golden seems to be saying if we are going to use his words as matt has said.

i also like how you ignored the other more strong points i made, great discredit

a2thezebra wrote:You're just being stubborn at this point, you know you're wrong.

no, cylons are scum they all die

litarly we can argue all day and im not going to be swayed one bit

I'm officially voting Ika Day 2.

As he says, scum must die.

and the more you even mention it the more im goign to argue otherwise

Matt wrote:I'm officially voting Ika Day 2.

As he says, scum must die.

cool good thing im not sucm

ika wrote:

Matt wrote:I'm officially voting Ika Day 2.

As he says, scum must die.

cool good thing im not sucm

Well you def ain't civvie so yup, "cool".

Ricochet wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:I'm just going to throw this link in here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=61545

This is a Battlestar Galactica game on another site where cylons were the bad guys and humans were good.

Relevance to current game and current Host's possible intentions to design this game?

Because this game was heavily based on Battlestar Galactica lore like some are using here to say Epi is town. This is not this case. Cylons need to die in order for humans to win. I can't be more clear about this if I tried. Try reading some of it, and you might understand why I posted it.

Where does it say that on the front page?

Try reading what? We're not playing that game on MS, we're playing this one on Syndicate. Again, relevance?

THIS. In a past game on another site, I was a host. Does that mean I'm a host now?

There are a number of people being very vocal that not all cylons are bad. Perhaps there is a good reason for that as well. I'm inclined to think that the people who have given reasons as to why not have very good reasons as opposed to Ika's "because I said so" or "because in another site they are" rant.