A Mafia of Unfortunate Events [END GAME]

[Marmot]

I would like to point out that I would bet that the Lotab kill probably had someone involved in the decision who knew she was in Israel. Most likely a friend of hers, letting her enjoy her trip without worrying about mafia. Why else would a mafia team kill her when she is busy and fairly disengaged from the game?

Mr. Poe is a civilian.

[Long Con]

I would like to point out that I would bet that the Lotab kill probably had someone involved in the decision who knew she was in Israel. Most likely a friend of hers, letting her enjoy her trip without worrying about mafia. Why else would a mafia team kill her when she is busy and fairly disengaged from the game?

Mr. Poe is a civilian.

This error looks good on Spacedaisy, because a member of Esme's team, the team that killed last night, would not make this error...as a baddie. It's not impossible that it's contrived - I don't read it that way at all though, but it's something that one could do...as a baddie.

[Jackofhearts2005]

EBWOP: I meant a "low-poster", not a "low player", which is a mistake one can make as a Civvie, as an Indy, or...as a baddie.

So what you're saying is you have an alignment.

*jots down notes*

[Long Con]

EBWOP: I meant a "low-poster", not a "low player", which is a mistake one can make as a Civvie, as an Indy, or...as a baddie.

So what you're saying is you have an alignment.

*jots down notes*

Hey, lemme see those notes, I wanna see what are you writing about me...as a baddie.

[Marmot]

EBWOP: I meant a "low-poster", not a "low player", which is a mistake one can make as a Civvie, as an Indy, or...as a baddie.

So what you're saying is you have an alignment.

*jots down notes*

I've always marveled at Long Con's observational skills.

[Jackofhearts2005]

EBWOP: I meant a "low-poster", not a "low player", which is a mistake one can make as a Civvie, as an Indy, or...as a baddie.

So what you're saying is you have an alignment.

*jots down notes*

Hey, lemme see those notes, I wanna see what are you writing about me...as a baddie.

Hahaha.

Not the best use of a post restriction I've ever seen but it's pretty funny.

I would like to point out that I would bet that the Lotab kill probably had someone involved in the decision who knew she was in Israel. Most likely a friend of hers, letting her enjoy her trip without worrying about mafia. Why else would a mafia team kill her when she is busy and fairly disengaged from the game?

Mr. Poe is a civilian.

And everyone should know Lorab is on a trip because she said so on thread.

[Spacedaisy]

I would like to point out that I would bet that the Lotab kill probably had someone involved in the decision who knew she was in Israel. Most likely a friend of hers, letting her enjoy her trip without worrying about mafia. Why else would a mafia team kill her when she is busy and fairly disengaged from the game?

Mr. Poe is a civilian.

He is? Strike everything I said then, lol. I thought that was a second baddie kill. Deep.

[Spacedaisy]

EBWOP: deep = derp

[Long Con]

The "amount of jokes to amount of people declaring me scum/voting for me" ratio is surprisingly high, here.

I'm a little lost on your meaning - you mean that people make more jokes the more they are accused?

I mean that there's more jokes when people are accused than I would expect.

But I suppose some of that comes from being from a home site that expects claims when accusations get somewhat serious (and somewhat serious is a much higher threshold than here). That can't happen here so...idk what I expect when you come close to getting lynched, especially early.

I'm just going over some stuff, and got to this post, and I don't think I had responded before because of my possible imminent lynch that would have resulted in you all not seeing me...as a baddie.

I have seen some of that very-serious kind of play, and I totally prefer to have jokes, even when my every joke is seen...as a baddie. What can I say, some of my jokes are hilarious, some are baddies, doesn't help to be as paranoid about it...as a baddie.

[sig]

I agree with sig not in the Troupe, but I'm lost on these two lists.

Sooo....

NOT IN TROUPE: INH, DDL, JoH

NOT IN GUARDIANS: Soneji, Epi, Elo, LC, DDL

Does this mean you've joined me in the "DDL is totes town" corner?

Yeah this was my fault for messing it up.

It is impossible for INH, DDL, and JoH to be in the Troupe.
The Powder-Faced Women – Their vote counts for two as long as at least one other member of the Troupe votes the same way.

I'm thinking the other four are unlikely since three voted for Sprits, and LC was his counterwagon. While I know bussing is a thing, I find it unlikely that bussing happened.

[Spacedaisy]

Given all the secrets in this game I think it is a stretch to say it's impossible. I think it is highly unlikely but not impossible.

[Epignosis]

Bussing is a thing and I wouldn't clear anyone of the possibility of voting for a teammate. Less likely yes, but not impossible. And it's Epi you are talking about.

I've only purposefully and intentionally thrown a teammate under the bus once in my life.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Bussing is a thing and I wouldn't clear anyone of the possibility of voting for a teammate. Less likely yes, but not impossible. And it's Epi you are talking about.

I've only purposefully and intentionally thrown a teammate under the bus once in my life.

You did it so well that you doing it again is just a matter of time.

[DFaraday]

Hey DF, who killed Scotty on Night 1?

I should have mentioned that. It was the Troupe.

[Long Con]

It is impossible for INH, DDL, and JoH to be in the Troupe.

Watch out for making blanket statements like this, because there can easily be things in play you don't know about, one of which I asked our Host about - an action I didn't take...as a baddie.

I'm allowed to talk about my prize: I got a prize for the Reptile competition, and it was lynch immunity for Day 2, so if I had gotten the most votes, or if Strauss had chosen me in the apparent tie, there would have been no one lynched at all, as a Civvie, or...as a baddie. I do agree that INH, DDL, and JoH are not in the Troupe, but I'm just relating this information so you will be aware of unknown factors that can arise, for to ignore them would make you as shame-deserving...as a baddie.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Way to rain on our parade, LC.

I believe you though cause reasons.

[sig]

Well my streak of smartness could only last for one phase I guess.

I'll buy what LC is selling here, doesn't make much sense to lie about it.

I'll be looking through the last phase, see who defended Sprit's and why they did. Off the top of my head I remember both Dom and Quin having a negative reaction to my idea, with Dom going so far as to vote for me.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Well my streak of smartness could only last for one phase I guess.

I'll buy what LC is selling here, doesn't make much sense to lie about it.

I'll be looking through the last phase, see who defended Sprit's and why they did. Off the top of my head I remember both Dom and Quin having a negative reaction to my idea, with Dom going so far as to vote for me.

Marmot voted for you as well, pointing out the initial sign up from Glor was unenthusiastic and INH pushed the "Sig's assertion is invalid" point. I pointed out that a pattern of one is not a pattern and voted for the other leading candidate.

I wouldn't take disagreeing with you alone to be scummy. I also think that if someone said you were tunneling based on meta that could have easily been wrong and not looking at much else, I wouldn't disagree with them.

Fact of the matter is, Glor/Sp2 was mafia. So if I'm already suspicious of a player, these actions certainly make them look worse.

So who already looks bad from that group? And who looks worst attacking you/defending Glor? I'd say Dom.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 36#p321136
^Calls you out for hedging (disagree) and contradiction (disagree) while saying she (he?) suspects Glor. Saying you suspect someone while voting for the player trying to lynch them? Now that's hedging. That sounds like a fake statement to me designed so Dom can say "I said I suspected Glor" should Glor be lynched and flip mafia.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 05#p320605
^Distancing. Never follows up with these accusations and when an actual train starts, does not get on.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 39#p320239
^Does not want to discuss Glor's difficulties with being honest. Best way to not have your scum teammate that won't lie get lynched? Get people to not discuss your scum teammate that won't lie. Note that several strategic discussions about plays that Snow Dog, DDL and Zebra had made already happened and Dom did not weigh in.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 71#p319671
^During discussion of who Klaus should role check, calls Ishmael a huge threat, even though he isn't. This would benefit the mafia if Klaus followed Dom's suggestion.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 49#p319949
^Backpedals when her post is called suspicious.


Lots of Dom posts I don't like. Not a single one that makes her look like a civ to me.

[Spacedaisy]

Dom is a guy.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Well my streak of smartness could only last for one phase I guess.

I'll buy what LC is selling here, doesn't make much sense to lie about it.

I'll be looking through the last phase, see who defended Sprit's and why they did. Off the top of my head I remember both Dom and Quin having a negative reaction to my idea, with Dom going so far as to vote for me.

Your point is probably still valid, though. If LC had won the vote, nobody would have been lynched. Sprit was lynched.

Though it's possible that there are other vote modifiers hidden in roles that we are not aware of.

[Elohcin]

I would like to point out that I would bet that the Lotab kill probably had someone involved in the decision who knew she was in Israel. Most likely a friend of hers, letting her enjoy her trip without worrying about mafia. Why else would a mafia team kill her when she is busy and fairly disengaged from the game?

Lorab's in Israel? What an awesome experience. I have heard stories of others who have visited. So cool!

I appreciate sig clearing me of one of the baddie teams. However, I think we have to beware of these types of things. This is mafia! There are all kinds of secrets and shenanigans that go on behind the scenes. I don't think we can ever be absolutely sure of anything.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

If DDL says there wasn't much there then he's full of it. But rather than me butcher a cliff notes version, I think you should come back to it when you're feeling better and have the time to read.

Why don't you read what I said and talk about it, instead of quoting what Eloh said about what I said, then using it to say I'm full of shit?

Hey, Elo, Quin, it's night time! Lots of time to take some more measured steps forward in the game.

Nuh-uh. It's eight in the morning and I'm not doing shit until I've finished my coffee.

If she's wrong, then Eloh just tried to misconstrue the effort that you went to in your catch up. How do you feel about that?

I've thought about this question. I think Elo's remark shows just laziness from her part (or being busy IRL, or whatever). She just didn't memorize what I said and didn't bother to check. There's hardly an attempt to indict me because such a thing would backfire.

I'm more worried about what could be an attempt from you to create suspicion on me based on what she said, and when that doesn't work, create suspicion on her. You seem far too eager to find someone with malicious intentions in this conversation.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I would like to point out that I would bet that the Lotab kill probably had someone involved in the decision who knew she was in Israel. Most likely a friend of hers, letting her enjoy her trip without worrying about mafia. Why else would a mafia team kill her when she is busy and fairly disengaged from the game?

Mr. Poe is a civilian.

This error looks good on Spacedaisy, because a member of Esme's team, the team that killed last night, would not make this error...as a baddie. It's not impossible that it's contrived - I don't read it that way at all though, but it's something that one could do...as a baddie.

Or you fake it. That's possible too.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I wouldn't remember Dom is in this game if Jack hadn't pointed that out.

Might be a good player to suspect. I'll check it out.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Yeah it seems that most of Dom's content is indie fearmongering, game mechanics discussion, and when he finally starts to talk about players, he keeps stinging Glorf but instead votes for what if Glorf's counterwagon at the time.

[Long Con]

Well my streak of smartness could only last for one phase I guess.

I'll buy what LC is selling here, doesn't make much sense to lie about it.

I'll be looking through the last phase, see who defended Sprit's and why they did. Off the top of my head I remember both Dom and Quin having a negative reaction to my idea, with Dom going so far as to vote for me.

Marmot voted for you as well, pointing out the initial sign up from Glor was unenthusiastic and INH pushed the "Sig's assertion is invalid" point. I pointed out that a pattern of one is not a pattern and voted for the other leading candidate.

I wouldn't take disagreeing with you alone to be scummy. I also think that if someone said you were tunneling based on meta that could have easily been wrong and not looking at much else, I wouldn't disagree with them.

Fact of the matter is, Glor/Sp2 was mafia. So if I'm already suspicious of a player, these actions certainly make them look worse.

So who already looks bad from that group? And who looks worst attacking you/defending Glor? I'd say Dom.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 36#p321136
^Calls you out for hedging (disagree) and contradiction (disagree) while saying she (he?) suspects Glor. Saying you suspect someone while voting for the player trying to lynch them? Now that's hedging. That sounds like a fake statement to me designed so Dom can say "I said I suspected Glor" should Glor be lynched and flip mafia.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 05#p320605
^Distancing. Never follows up with these accusations and when an actual train starts, does not get on.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 39#p320239
^Does not want to discuss Glor's difficulties with being honest. Best way to not have your scum teammate that won't lie get lynched? Get people to not discuss your scum teammate that won't lie. Note that several strategic discussions about plays that Snow Dog, DDL and Zebra had made already happened and Dom did not weigh in.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 71#p319671
^During discussion of who Klaus should role check, calls Ishmael a huge threat, even though he isn't. This would benefit the mafia if Klaus followed Dom's suggestion.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 49#p319949
^Backpedals when her post is called suspicious.


Lots of Dom posts I don't like. Not a single one that makes her look like a civ to me.

This is a good post, I agree that Dom looks very suspicious...as a baddie.

I would like to point out that I would bet that the Lotab kill probably had someone involved in the decision who knew she was in Israel. Most likely a friend of hers, letting her enjoy her trip without worrying about mafia. Why else would a mafia team kill her when she is busy and fairly disengaged from the game?

Mr. Poe is a civilian.

This error looks good on Spacedaisy, because a member of Esme's team, the team that killed last night, would not make this error...as a baddie. It's not impossible that it's contrived - I don't read it that way at all though, but it's something that one could do...as a baddie.

Or you fake it. That's possible too.

Fake it...as a baddie. I think that's what you mean, but that's what I was getting at when I said it's possible that it was contrived, that's something one could do...as a baddie. It's well-faked, if she's on Esme's team...as a baddie.

[sig]

So going to do a quick read of Scotty see if anything pops up, go over Sprit's and a few other players.

Oh look! Sprityo's back!

Let's lynch him again!
Surely lightning won't strike twice..

Civ points for scotty oh wait it doesn't matter.

I tried to do a NKA (night kill analysis) but I don't see anything there that would explain a kill, minus the Sprityo thing. Which doesn't matter at this point.

With 15 posts Dom is well within the realm of a low poster. Within these 15 posts I found several troubling things that I'll be linking, even though Jack seems to have beaten me to the punch.

Uhhh

ishmael, given those recent revelations is a huge threat.

This is mechanic talk which is okay, but a good portion of Dom's posts are like this or fluff.

LoRab, why are the VFD a bigger thread than Ishmael?

LoRab, why are the VFD a bigger thread than Ishmael?

Because of my natural distrust of purely neutral roles, especially when it's a 2 person neutral team that just has to survive to win. You've known me long enough to know how I feel about this (and to know that it's because of how may have once played such a role to win the game for the mafia). Also, they have a block and a protect to use every night.

Ishmael's team has a 50% chance of recruiting each night, and at least early on, it's kind of a crap shoot what roles they get. At the start, it's 13 civs to recruit v 8 baddies v 3 neutral (he can't recruit himself). So, almost even odds of getting a non-civ than a civ. It, in part, depends on who the first successful recruit is.

In all, it may likely have more to do with my innate prejudicial suspicion towards neutral roles than anything else.

I know about this natural distrust.
I thought you'd attribute some level of distrust to Ishamel for this reason as well.

Two mechanic based conversation.

Let me throw this out there and see what people think.

Mathematically, the cult is not much of a threat. Using one of Klaus's auto scum catches on Ishmael would most benefit.....the mafia.

So players expressing extreme unwarranted concern about the cult are somewhat suspicious to me at this point.

I do agree that Klaus might not want to use his check on Ishmael.

This is interesting, seeing how Dom thought the cult was a major threat why wouldn't he want Klaus to search them? However, I don't think this plays into his role, unless he is Ishmael.

I'm making a blanket statement that I trust none of you and will be voting a no-show or low poster. That there are 12/25 people not being civs, a coin flip isn't the worst thing in the world atm

How does one of these statements follow the other?

Well I missed this in my ISO of scotty, but I did notice it here. Dom was agaisnt this idea without coming out 100% agaisnt it, he is also a low poster like Glorf/Sprit who flipped mafia. This could be a reason for Scotty's death and if Dom is mafia I'd bet at least one other member of their team is a low poster.

Hi guys--

I've fallen ill again. I'm hoping to be better by the holidays, but I am very fatigued right now. Forgive me, O Mafia players.

Having just been on a baddie team with Sorsha in Lost Again, I'm not seeing the same thing from her here. I am leaning civ on her at the moment.

Do we think this logic holds?
I don't.
Go read Sorsha in Lost Again and tell me if you really think that matters in comparison to this game.
Four options:
-SD and Sorsha are baddies together
-SD and Sorsha are civvies together.
-SD and Sorsha are on opposing sides.
-indys involved

I voted sprityo to break the tie between him and DDL. I didn't get a chance to look at sprityo, nor DDL for that matter. But y'all left me to break a tie, so

Here's a list of players who missed the vote (including sprityo).

• Dom
  DrWilgy
  Elohcin
  Epignosis
  Glorfindel
  LoRab
  Marco
  Nachomamma8
  soup
  sprityo

I would like to point out (for the record) my friend that I did not 'miss' the vote. I deliberately withheld mine. I was faced with a choice between two players of which I was unwilling to support either.

...this is not true. You had plenty of other options.

And there you go... vindicated again!

Smug doesn't fit you.
Which baddie team are you on?

So the first part isn't super interesting, but the last portion of this post is. If Dom suspected Glorf of being on a mafia team for one behavioral based post, why did he then attack and vote for me when I made the same type of case with more information attached? I think this is an attempt at distancing. Also hope you feel better.

I don't see the merit in the discussion.

This is probably one of the most eyebrow raising posts of Dom's.
He doesn't see the merit in discussing Glorf's behavior surrounding refusing to claim good or bad. This is an attempt to shift the conversation and defend Glorf from being lynched based on meta reasoning, even though he suspected Glorf?

hm Glorf replaced out, that is interesting.

What do you make of it?
:

I think it could mean Sprityo is mafia, in fact I'd be willing to lynch on it. Glorf was alreayd a suspect of mine, for not giving reads not talking much and a general gut read. Two things to know about Glorf is he hates lying, even in a game he won't do it and he hates being mafia. His refusal to answer the good/bad question was a tip off, he wouldn't lie about it, he'd just not say it either way. I'm thinking his BTSC mates told him that. He went with it, but hated it and asked to be replaced. Since even if he was bad, he wouldn't want to let his team down. So he replaced out since he couldn't be a mafia member and he did this soon enough that most people wouldn't consider it.

He attempted to do the same thing in Star wars mafia when he was bad as well.

So I'm voting there and I'll be voting there now, since I am 80% sure Sprityo 2.0/Glorf are mafia and that is why Glorf acted the way he did day 1 and was replaced.

I'm feeling good about the SDs and Golden. I won't be lynching Jack today since he is a civ lean, or Epi/LC since I need time to read them.
I never saw the case on MM so he won't get my vote either.

So Glorf replacing out is closely correlated with him being a baddie?

I would say yes there is a correlation.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ?f=2&t=769

Take a look at Star Wars mafia, Glorfs first game here, he subbed out after awhile as mafia there as well. Though I will admit that was in part due to being mafia and being completely overwhelmed, while I don't think i've ever seen a civ Glorf sub out, not even when he is being harassed and bothered.

Finally I'd say im being replaced just assured me of my read, I'd say I can gut read some players rather well, Glorf being one of them and he was pinging me from his first post. Furthermore when he wouldn't give me reads, something he does often regardless of alignment, but much more as mafia.

Voting sig for this contradiction despite me suspecting glorf.
Hedging.
Not making assertive claims.

Now this post is why I think he's a teammate of Glorf. He votes for me because I was hedging and not making assertive claims? Based all around one sentence in one of my post. At this time it tied me with Sprityo, so not only did he tie the vote, but he also attempted to make me and my case seem disingenuous. I'd also say keep in mind if Dom was mafia he might have thought sprityo would vote for me, which would have pushed me ahead of him by two votes, due to his power. This claim also doesn't make much sense since I came into the thread guns ablazing agaisnt Glorf and was one of the first votes.
He also says he is suspicious of Glorf, yet votes for the player pushing Glorf and doesn't mention if there's any merits in my case

This as well as Dom not wanting to discuses Glorf's meta/refusal to claim and saying he was suspecting Glorf yet not taking my case into consideration looks bad. I'd GTH Dom as bad and put him as likely scum.

[sig]

Effective immediately, Sprityo is replacing Glorfindel.

And yeah, dead members of factions win too.

I have to wonder why Sprit replaced Glor. Glor was pretty active. I know glor has a hard time being mafia, so maybe it was too much pressure.

This is all I have to go on right now, unfortunately. So, *voting Sprit*

I think there are much more significant topics being discussed right now which make for better votes than than voting based on a flimsy hypothesis on why someone might have subbed out.

Okay I somehow managed to miss eloh saying this and I agree with quin. This is lazy playing, an easy out.

This is interesting from Quin, some soft defense of Sprityo and quin was on another wagon. Which could have taken off.

I think the troupe was trying to avoid being on the same vote as Sprityo, since that would have put them under fire if/when Sprityo flipped. So instead they low key defended him/attacked people who were agaisnt him and joined other or started potential wagons.

[sig]

Wow, awesome result! I should have stuck with my initial read of him there more I suppose.

I'll catch up on the thread later when I have more than 5 minutes to do so.

I'm unsure how to feel about MP, he basically avoided Sprityo and the glorf thing, but talked about the other wagons and seemed to have been pressing people/arguing agaisnt LC. Which raises some eyebrows, but at the end of the day he didn't vote for LC, instead going for an inactive player who had no chance of getting lynched.

So I have around 1,000 posts to read and no motivation to read them. What to do...

You of all people should be ashamed to even post this.

Why? I've been preoccupied, and I wasn't going to spend my only week all year spending time with my family and friends in person playing mafia.

I can't help that the deadline ends on Christmas evening. I'll be properly engaged going forward, but this unfortunate timing makes another cycle wherein I don't have the time or motivation to read to make any semblance of an informed decision.

lol, this is funny and very ironic. :P

Is Snow Dog really drunk or faking it?

@Quin, Dom voted for me for no good reason and voting for me is mean. :shrug2

linki: Nvm, I'm confusing alignment claiming with role claiming.

I can't post in supatown MP mode all the time even if I'd like to, and this game started at a bad time. I'm resigned to doing what I can with the limited time that I have. Hopefully I can read during N2 and D3.

Why would Snow Dog fake being drunk?

What's your read of Dom?

Sorry I didn't answer this just saw it.
Also I don't know maybe he was faking being drunk to get civ credit. :P
It would be a kickass plan imo.

I don't like that sprityo 2.0's first handful of posts of any game-related content are all a combination of salt over his 1.0 self dying and discussing his former self rather than attempting to generate reads on anyone. I'd say that's a bad look.

And continued posts on the matter, though he does eventually get around to some other posting... it's underwhelming though.

Overall I'd say my read is a sprityo 2.0 (slight mafia). I don't feel remotely inspired to call him town, but I don't feel compelled to call him a good lead for a mafia member either. Nonetheless, as much as it sucks to be lynched right off the bat and lynched immediately again, I don't want to let that keep me from considering a potential legitimate lead, so I could vote for him if I don't find anything better.

Never mind I found a post about sprityo, I like this read, however he didn't vote for his slight mafia read instead going for an inactive, this looks bad. I do understand he's busy so he didn't want to make an uninformed decision, but wouldn't it be better to go for a slight mafia read then a total unknown?

So I'm really torn on MP, I don't like where he put his final vote, but he could have voted in a much worse place as well, I'd have to put him down as a mafia lean.

Thoughts on MP?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I like MP. I imagine him as a talking sock and that makes me smile.

[Epignosis]

I like MP. I imagine him as a talking sock and that makes me smile.

That's literally exactly what he looks like.

[Scotty]

I like MP. I imagine him as a talking sock and that makes me smile.

That's literally exactly what he looks like.

two adverbs in the same sentence.

Shame.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Someone once told me adverbs were scummy.

/determined to shoehorn deader posts into having content

[sig]

Someone once told me adverbs were scummy.

/determined to shoehorn deader posts into having content

Isn't all usage of grammar scummy though?

[Elohcin]

I like MP. I imagine him as a talking sock and that makes me smile.

That's literally exactly what he looks like.

two adverbs in the same sentence.

Shame.

[Epignosis]

I've been using adverbs deliberately.

[Quin]

Effective immediately, Sprityo is replacing Glorfindel.

And yeah, dead members of factions win too.

I have to wonder why Sprit replaced Glor. Glor was pretty active. I know glor has a hard time being mafia, so maybe it was too much pressure.

This is all I have to go on right now, unfortunately. So, *voting Sprit*

I think there are much more significant topics being discussed right now which make for better votes than than voting based on a flimsy hypothesis on why someone might have subbed out.

Okay I somehow managed to miss eloh saying this and I agree with quin. This is lazy playing, an easy out.

This is interesting from Quin, some soft defense of Sprityo and quin was on another wagon. Which could have taken off.

I think the troupe was trying to avoid being on the same vote as Sprityo, since that would have put them under fire if/when Sprityo flipped. So instead they low key defended him/attacked people who were agaisnt him and joined other or started potential wagons.

It wasn't a soft defence. I made it pretty blatant over the course of the day that I opposed the main reason people were piling votes on sprityo. If you're gonna throw a case at me, make it hurt.

[Spacedaisy]

Effective immediately, Sprityo is replacing Glorfindel.

And yeah, dead members of factions win too.

I have to wonder why Sprit replaced Glor. Glor was pretty active. I know glor has a hard time being mafia, so maybe it was too much pressure.

This is all I have to go on right now, unfortunately. So, *voting Sprit*

I think there are much more significant topics being discussed right now which make for better votes than than voting based on a flimsy hypothesis on why someone might have subbed out.

Okay I somehow managed to miss eloh saying this and I agree with quin. This is lazy playing, an easy out.

This is interesting from Quin, some soft defense of Sprityo and quin was on another wagon. Which could have taken off.

I think the troupe was trying to avoid being on the same vote as Sprityo, since that would have put them under fire if/when Sprityo flipped. So instead they low key defended him/attacked people who were agaisnt him and joined other or started potential wagons.

It wasn't a soft defence. I made it pretty blatant over the course of the day that I opposed the main reason people were piling votes on sprityo. If you're gonna throw a case at me, make it hurt.

Quin likes it when you make it hurt apparently.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

make it hurt.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Ninja'd by Daisy

[insertnamehere]

ddl and sd confirmed btsc

[Quin]

Effective immediately, Sprityo is replacing Glorfindel.

And yeah, dead members of factions win too.

I have to wonder why Sprit replaced Glor. Glor was pretty active. I know glor has a hard time being mafia, so maybe it was too much pressure.

This is all I have to go on right now, unfortunately. So, *voting Sprit*

I think there are much more significant topics being discussed right now which make for better votes than than voting based on a flimsy hypothesis on why someone might have subbed out.

Okay I somehow managed to miss eloh saying this and I agree with quin. This is lazy playing, an easy out.

This is interesting from Quin, some soft defense of Sprityo and quin was on another wagon. Which could have taken off.

I think the troupe was trying to avoid being on the same vote as Sprityo, since that would have put them under fire if/when Sprityo flipped. So instead they low key defended him/attacked people who were agaisnt him and joined other or started potential wagons.

It wasn't a soft defence. I made it pretty blatant over the course of the day that I opposed the main reason people were piling votes on sprityo. If you're gonna throw a case at me, make it hurt.

Quin likes it when you make it hurt apparently.

oopsie daisy

[Quin]

I would like to point out that I would bet that the Lotab kill probably had someone involved in the decision who knew she was in Israel. Most likely a friend of hers, letting her enjoy her trip without worrying about mafia. Why else would a mafia team kill her when she is busy and fairly disengaged from the game?

Mr. Poe is a civilian.

This error looks good on Spacedaisy, because a member of Esme's team, the team that killed last night, would not make this error...as a baddie. It's not impossible that it's contrived - I don't read it that way at all though, but it's something that one could do...as a baddie.

Punishment, assumedly.

[Marmot]

If DDL says there wasn't much there then he's full of it. But rather than me butcher a cliff notes version, I think you should come back to it when you're feeling better and have the time to read.

Why don't you read what I said and talk about it, instead of quoting what Eloh said about what I said, then using it to say I'm full of shit?

Hey, Elo, Quin, it's night time! Lots of time to take some more measured steps forward in the game.

Nuh-uh. It's eight in the morning and I'm not doing shit until I've finished my coffee.

If she's wrong, then Eloh just tried to misconstrue the effort that you went to in your catch up. How do you feel about that?

I've thought about this question. I think Elo's remark shows just laziness from her part (or being busy IRL, or whatever). She just didn't memorize what I said and didn't bother to check. There's hardly an attempt to indict me because such a thing would backfire.

I'm more worried about what could be an attempt from you to create suspicion on me based on what she said, and when that doesn't work, create suspicion on her. You seem far too eager to find someone with malicious intentions in this conversation.

This sounds like a complicated reason to suspect someone.

I've been using adverbs deliberately.

Now why would you do that?

[Epignosis]

Quite.

[Epignosis]

This will sound naturally suspicious coming from someone like me ( ) but I say there is a large number of people ruled out for this phase.

Rather than focus on sprityo's team, I would like to have a crack at the other. That's a good deal harder than finding teammates. So there's where my focus will be.

If there's no advancement to be had on that front, then fine lynch a sprityo teammate. I won't complain.

[Epignosis]

I agree that Dom is bad, by the way.

[Epignosis]

I agree that Dom is bad, by the way.

In fact, I'd argue that Dom is bad but on the other team. Not sprityo's.

[Marmot]

This will sound naturally suspicious coming from someone like me ( ) but I say there is a large number of people ruled out for this phase.

Rather than focus on sprityo's team, I would like to have a crack at the other. That's a good deal harder than finding teammates. So there's where my focus will be.

If there's no advancement to be had on that front, then fine lynch a sprityo teammate. I won't complain.

Good. Because I don't feel any wiser after reading through Glorfindel's posts about who his teammates could be.

On to sprityo!

[sig]

I agree that Dom is bad, by the way.

In fact, I'd argue that Dom is bad but on the other team. Not sprityo's.

Why the other team? Also glad you agree lets lynch him!