The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:15 pm**

juliets wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:All:

Tell me why we shouldn't lynch Elohcin.
She's not here to defend herself, which I know is an "old-school" reason not to Lynch someone but you asked.

But it's not like she hasn't had lots of opportunity to be here to defend herself. We told her she was a suspect yesterday and she asked for more time, which we gave her.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:16 pm**

Sorsha wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:All:

Tell me why we shouldn't lynch Elohcin.
What do we learn if she flips civ?

That she wasn't bad. The suspect pool is rather narrow in my eyes and it would be simple enough to proceed from there to a new option.

I care about lynching baddies. That is my priority. Worrying about what we might learn if X is a civilian is a losing strategy IMO.

juliets wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:All:

Tell me why we shouldn't lynch Elohcin.
She's not here to defend herself, which I know is an "old-school" reason not to Lynch someone but you asked.

Yeah, that's not my favorite thing either. I'd still lynch her though. Ain't nobody got time for free passes.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:17 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:I don't know why this would mean anything. They have changed, for the most part.

linki: Because she is a less-than promising candidate. She feels like a good Day 1 lynch right now. That doesn't fly here.
It would mean that you're either very stubborn or you're fake. Neither is ideal. I think you are 0 for 3 in your Boomslang/llama/JJJ triumvirate and those seem to be the names you've been most interested in hanging for quite some time now. I have a new challenge for you:

Tell me why your suspects are civilians.

Boomslang was early to vote for two baddies. Wilgy tried to save DDL with a llama vote. I have no reason to view you as a civilian.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:18 pm**

The suspect pool is narrow but there's no room for a pass while we wait on content. Ok.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:19 pm**

thellama73 wrote:
juliets wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:All:

Tell me why we shouldn't lynch Elohcin.
She's not here to defend herself, which I know is an "old-school" reason not to Lynch someone but you asked.
But it's not like she hasn't had lots of opportunity to be here to defend herself. We told her she was a suspect yesterday and she asked for more time, which we gave her.

Yes thats true and is the reason why I'm willing to vote for her even though she hasn't been here. I'm just trying to think of every reason not to possible.

I don't agree with Quin's reason though, it doesn't feel like a day 1 lynch to me.

lots o'linki

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:20 pm**

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:20 pm**

Quin wrote:The suspect pool is narrow but there's no room for a pass while we wait on content. Ok.

That's right. We don't have an infinite number of day phases to screw around. Every single day survived by a baddie is a significant victory for their team. That's literally how I approach the game when I am bad -- what do I have to do to make it to the next day phase?.

Elohcin not being here is not an indicator that she's a civilian. It doesn't matter to me.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:20 pm**

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Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:20 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:What's the gist of the case against Eloh 2.0?
~ Process of elimination

~ Her suspicions of Epi and I look fake

~ She requested an extension and didn't do anything with it

~ Her Wilgy vote was too late to mean anything, and when she answered to that it was pretty much to second my own comments.

~ I am less personally invested in the circumstantial replacement-relevant suspicion, but it exists.

That's not what I have, and I'd leave the extension out of it.

Spoiler: show

Although she just put my new chair together, so if I lynch her and she's good, I'm going to feel like a heel.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:21 pm**

thellama73 wrote:
Quin wrote:What's the gist of the case against Eloh 2.0?
Her vote against Wilgy was opportunistically timed, the timing and circumstances of her replacing back in are suspicious (although I am less sympathetic to this part of the case, as expounded by Epignosis) and she asked for a day to explain herself and then promptly disappeared. Her predecessor, AP, was basically an absentee.

Bad voting record. Bad participation. That combined with the process of elimination I outlined above makes me thing she is surely bad.

Again, I would leave participation on Thursdays out of the equation.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:22 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Quin wrote:What's the gist of the case against Eloh 2.0?
Her vote against Wilgy was opportunistically timed, the timing and circumstances of her replacing back in are suspicious (although I am less sympathetic to this part of the case, as expounded by Epignosis) and she asked for a day to explain herself and then promptly disappeared. Her predecessor, AP, was basically an absentee.

Bad voting record. Bad participation. That combined with the process of elimination I outlined above makes me thing she is surely bad.
Again, I would leave participation on Thursdays out of the equation.

But then why did she ask for a day to prove herself if she wasn't going to be here?

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:24 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:The suspect pool is narrow but there's no room for a pass while we wait on content. Ok.
That's right. We don't have an infinite number of day phases to screw around. Every single day survived by a baddie is a significant victory for their team. That's literally how I approach the game when I am bad -- what do I have to do to make it to the next day phase?.

Elohcin not being here is not an indicator that she's a civilian. It doesn't matter to me.

This is a good point... points actually.

Ok I'll vote Eloh. I don't know what's happening to my jay suspicion.

Also, reading bloopers big post about llama I'd have expected her to vote him and not jay.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:24 pm**

juliets wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Quin wrote:What's the gist of the case against Eloh 2.0?
Her vote against Wilgy was opportunistically timed, the timing and circumstances of her replacing back in are suspicious (although I am less sympathetic to this part of the case, as expounded by Epignosis) and she asked for a day to explain herself and then promptly disappeared. Her predecessor, AP, was basically an absentee.

Bad voting record. Bad participation. That combined with the process of elimination I outlined above makes me thing she is surely bad.
Again, I would leave participation on Thursdays out of the equation.
But then why did she ask for a day to prove herself if she wasn't going to be here?

I think you're taking it too literally. I don't think we should be throwing suspicion at her just because she didn't post within the period she asked for. 'Give me a day to prove myself' can just as easily mean 'Give me a chance' to me.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:25 pm**

thellama73 wrote:
juliets wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:All:

Tell me why we shouldn't lynch Elohcin.
She's not here to defend herself, which I know is an "old-school" reason not to Lynch someone but you asked.
But it's not like she hasn't had lots of opportunity to be here to defend herself. We told her she was a suspect yesterday and she asked for more time, which we gave her.

She hasn't had lots of opportunity. She literally hasn't been home all day.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:26 pm**

juliets wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Quin wrote:What's the gist of the case against Eloh 2.0?
Her vote against Wilgy was opportunistically timed, the timing and circumstances of her replacing back in are suspicious (although I am less sympathetic to this part of the case, as expounded by Epignosis) and she asked for a day to explain herself and then promptly disappeared. Her predecessor, AP, was basically an absentee.

Bad voting record. Bad participation. That combined with the process of elimination I outlined above makes me thing she is surely bad.
Again, I would leave participation on Thursdays out of the equation.
But then why did she ask for a day to prove herself if she wasn't going to be here?

She doesn't think when she speaks.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:26 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
juliets wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:All:

Tell me why we shouldn't lynch Elohcin.
She's not here to defend herself, which I know is an "old-school" reason not to Lynch someone but you asked.
But it's not like she hasn't had lots of opportunity to be here to defend herself. We told her she was a suspect yesterday and she asked for more time, which we gave her.
She hasn't had lots of opportunity. She literally hasn't been home all day.

Who's on your short list?

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:27 pm**

I'm not saying "Don't vote Eloh." All I'm saying is, "Don't let the fact that she hasn't been around when she asked for time factor into your vote." She hasn't been around. That is all.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:30 pm**

Quin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
juliets wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:All:

Tell me why we shouldn't lynch Elohcin.
She's not here to defend herself, which I know is an "old-school" reason not to Lynch someone but you asked.
But it's not like she hasn't had lots of opportunity to be here to defend herself. We told her she was a suspect yesterday and she asked for more time, which we gave her.
She hasn't had lots of opportunity. She literally hasn't been home all day.
Who's on your short list?

Other than her, you. I don't like lynching for information, but that seems to be what you want. Were this a fully open-setup Heist, I wouldn't bother, because you could be killed and then I would know your role. You seem to want everybody to know your role.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:30 pm**

Ten minutes to Lynch O'Clock, folks. Let's get those votes in.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:31 pm**

In that vein though, Boomslang voted you, Quin. If he were bad and thought you had information on him, he wouldn't want you lynched.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:31 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
Quin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
juliets wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:All:

Tell me why we shouldn't lynch Elohcin.
She's not here to defend herself, which I know is an "old-school" reason not to Lynch someone but you asked.
But it's not like she hasn't had lots of opportunity to be here to defend herself. We told her she was a suspect yesterday and she asked for more time, which we gave her.
She hasn't had lots of opportunity. She literally hasn't been home all day.
Who's on your short list?
Other than her, you. I don't like lynching for information, but that seems to be what you want. Were this a fully open-setup Heist, I wouldn't bother, because you could be killed and then I would know your role. You seem to want everybody to know your role.

My role is insignificant. I know there's some damn good arguments to be made against me and I know I'm basically immune from night kills now. I don't want to stick around until LYLO and have the baddies turn on me then. It's just a matter of damage control.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:31 pm**

Epignosis wrote:I'm not saying "Don't vote Eloh." All I'm saying is, "Don't let the fact that she hasn't been around when she asked for time factor into your vote." She hasn't been around. That is all.

Ok, thanks for the info Epi. I'll take that out of the equation. There is still enough there though that I am comfortable voting for her so I'm going to go ahead and vote.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:32 pm**

Quin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Quin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
juliets wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:All:

Tell me why we shouldn't lynch Elohcin.
She's not here to defend herself, which I know is an "old-school" reason not to Lynch someone but you asked.
But it's not like she hasn't had lots of opportunity to be here to defend herself. We told her she was a suspect yesterday and she asked for more time, which we gave her.
She hasn't had lots of opportunity. She literally hasn't been home all day.
Who's on your short list?
Other than her, you. I don't like lynching for information, but that seems to be what you want. Were this a fully open-setup Heist, I wouldn't bother, because you could be killed and then I would know your role. You seem to want everybody to know your role.
My role is insignificant. I know there's some damn good arguments to be made against me and I know I'm basically immune from night kills now. I don't want to stick around until LYLO and have the baddies turn on me then. It's just a matter of damage control.

Then that's a moronic reason to lynch you. Pass.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:32 pm**

No ties. No ties. No ties. NO TIES.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:32 pm**

Epignosis wrote:In that vein though, Boomslang voted you, Quin. If he were bad and thought you had information on him, he wouldn't want you lynched.

Unless he thinks I'm denim mini, there aren't any roles that would lend to that theory.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:33 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:No ties. No ties. No ties. NO TIES.

THIS. Bearing in mind that there are two vote manipulation roles.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:35 pm**

I also think Eloh's suspicion of me may be genuine. I think it's possible she honestly didn't understand my circumstantial case against her, and she saw me as bad for it. "What the hell? I haven't even said anything!"

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:37 pm**

I haven't read the last fifty or so posts, but I voted Eloh so as to not make it a tie, and she could easily be bad. Still at work, be back later to read up and talk.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:38 pm**

Made tried to tie it up as I posted.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:38 pm**

Long Con wrote:I haven't read the last fifty or so posts, but I voted Eloh so as to not make it a tie, and she could easily be bad. Still at work, be back later to read up and talk.

Thanks. Now I can't vote INH.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:39 pm**

I'd rather Eloh than INH.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:39 pm**

I think I will vote Eloh though. I have the most reason to believe A Person, whom she replaced, was bad, and if I'm wrong, I have the opportunity to make it up for her by kicking ass the next Day.

By then I can come off the couch.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:40 pm**

Come on, Made. Get your head in the game.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:40 pm**

My ideal way of playing has just gone down the shitter in this game. At this point I'm just being lazy.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:41 pm**

Quin wrote:My ideal way of playing has just gone down the shitter in this game. At this point I'm just being lazy.

What's your ideal way of playing?

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:42 pm**

Like what Quin said, an Eloh vote feel like a day one vote, and while we might not learn much about roles in a open set up game, we learn more about intent when someone with more said dies rather than voting someone who we don't have a reason to believe they're civvie.

Voted INH

linki: I didn't vote for a tie, i voted to keep it close

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:43 pm**

thellama73 wrote:
Quin wrote:My ideal way of playing has just gone down the shitter in this game. At this point I'm just being lazy.
What's your ideal way of playing?

Not being lazy. I try way too hard to fit the high poster archetype. Although that's really just not in my nature.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:45 pm**

Quin wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Quin wrote:My ideal way of playing has just gone down the shitter in this game. At this point I'm just being lazy.
What's your ideal way of playing?
Not being lazy. I try way too hard to fit the high poster archetype. Although that's really just not in my nature.

I love you just the way you are.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:47 pm**

thellama73 wrote:
Quin wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Quin wrote:My ideal way of playing has just gone down the shitter in this game. At this point I'm just being lazy.
What's your ideal way of playing?
Not being lazy. I try way too hard to fit the high poster archetype. Although that's really just not in my nature.
I love you just the way you are.

Tell me that after I put the knife down from your throat.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:51 pm**

inb4 Eloh had an lynch immunity

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:57 pm**

Day 4: I'll Never Pho-Get you

The group got pho. It was so hot that Elohcin died.

Elohcin 2.0 has died. She was the Denim Backpack.

Denim Backpack:

You are an indie and can win with either side! You just need to survive.

It is now Night 4. You have until 8pm EST to send in your PMs and send in your night actions.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:58 pm**

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:59 pm**

Day 4

Who over-excited Marmot?

Poll ended at Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:41:03 pm

Boomslang
0
No votes
Elochin 2.0
6
JaggedJimmyJay (4), Sorsha (8), juliets (9), Long Con (11), Quin (13), Epignosis (14) 43%
Epignosis
0
No votes
insertnamehere
3
thellama73 (2), Scotty (3), Made (12) 21%
JaggedJimmyJay
1
nijuukyugou (5) 7%
LongCon
0
No votes
Made
0
No votes
nijuukyugou
0
No votes
Quin
1
Boomslang (7) 7%
Scotty
0
No votes
Sorsha
0
No votes
SpaceDaisy
0
No votes
thellama73
1
insertnamehere (6) 7%
Alison's Bruncherie and Boulangerie (Host/Mod/NPs/Deadies)
2
Mongoose (1), Metalmarsh89 (10) 14%

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:59 pm**

Off to the couch go I.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:00 pm**

No civilian lynches though.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:01 pm**

Also, she wasn't bad AND I can't make it up to her by kicking ass tomorrow.

Thankfully I love my couch.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:02 pm**

Semi-bummer. At least she wasn't a civilian.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:02 pm**

Why would A Person abandon that role? You could do nothing and win.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:03 pm**

Less than ideal, but at least now we know about that secret role.

Posted: **Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:04 pm**

dang, but glad she wasn't civ - silly AP

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