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Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:48 pm**

I can't confirm any of my Cecil theory until Wilgy shows up, which is unfortunate. If you have specific questions I can try to answer them and I will check with the mod to see the specifics of what I can / can't say.

Main points:
Wilgy is Cecil because secrets
Eloh is Cecil because she flipped that way
One of them (probably Eloh) is actually Kevin

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:50 pm**

Do votes after 4 count?

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:51 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:48 pm I can't confirm any of my Cecil theory until Wilgy shows up, which is unfortunate. If you have specific questions I can try to answer them and I will check with the mod to see the specifics of what I can / can't say.

Main points:
Wilgy is Cecil because secrets
Eloh is Cecil because she flipped that way
One of them (probably Eloh) is actually Kevin

So..... any reason that you ruled me out as SMaf or?

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:51 pm**

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:50 pm Do votes after 4 count?

The tape only specifies the fourth, so I would say so.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:52 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:42 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:36 pm My summary on this is basically:

- Look for Tamika in Eloh's suspects, as she was possibly role blocked
- In a situation where Eloh died as the result of a tie, it means that Marcus is one of sprityo and INH, and the Glow Cloud forced someone's vote away from TSP onto Eloh. This could mean that TSP is a teammate of the Glow Cloud.
Good theory, but 1: from what we saw of JOH in the second day that isn't how the forced vote works and 2: secrets.

Assuming he was telling the truth.

That said, that is how forced votes usually work--with the player having to physically vote a certain way.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:52 pm**

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:50 pm Do votes after 4 count?

Mod responded to this question with an emoji earlier.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:54 pm**

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:52 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:42 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:36 pm My summary on this is basically:

- Look for Tamika in Eloh's suspects, as she was possibly role blocked
- In a situation where Eloh died as the result of a tie, it means that Marcus is one of sprityo and INH, and the Glow Cloud forced someone's vote away from TSP onto Eloh. This could mean that TSP is a teammate of the Glow Cloud.
Good theory, but 1: from what we saw of JOH in the second day that isn't how the forced vote works and 2: secrets.
Assuming he was telling the truth.

That said, that is how forced votes usually work--with the player having to physically vote a certain way.

It is. In hindsight, you'd probably call a vote change in the way I described it something different.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:55 pm**

Coincidentally, how do people feel about sprityo and INH?

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:58 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:44 pm @Nijuu

Can I say if my vote is or isn't stolen?

Can we just appreciate this post for a second?

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:59 pm**

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:51 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:48 pm I can't confirm any of my Cecil theory until Wilgy shows up, which is unfortunate. If you have specific questions I can try to answer them and I will check with the mod to see the specifics of what I can / can't say.

Main points:
Wilgy is Cecil because secrets
Eloh is Cecil because she flipped that way
One of them (probably Eloh) is actually Kevin
So..... any reason that you ruled me out as SMaf or?

You are very persistent. JOH was giving three theories to explain LC's lynch. One of them was Dom is bad. One of them is SMaf thought INH was bad. One of them is SMaf wasn't trying to save LC. JOH had crossed off the legitimaely thinking INH was bad one because assuming Rico was good and because I didn't push on INH before that it wasn't plausible (for some reason-- honestly, this one still makes the most sense to me).
So from JOH's point of view there were two theories left. I pointed out that if you were bad with me we could have lynched INH. Since we didn't, we wouldn't be teammates on SMaf. Either of us could be on SMaf seperately. But as far as Jacks theories go, if you aren't bad that leaves him with SMaf wasn't trying to save LC. So no matter what role I was, I would have no reason to try to save LC. So that wasn't what I was doing.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:01 pm**

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:55 pm Coincidentally, how do people feel about sprityo and INH?

General consensus:
INH is probably mafia.
Spirtyo probably isn't.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:02 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:48 pm I can't confirm any of my Cecil theory until Wilgy shows up, which is unfortunate. If you have specific questions I can try to answer them and I will check with the mod to see the specifics of what I can / can't say.

Main points:
Wilgy is Cecil because secrets
Eloh is Cecil because she flipped that way
One of them (probably Eloh) is actually Kevin

Why do you think that Eloh is more likely to be Kevin than Wilgy?

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:04 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:59 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:51 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:48 pm I can't confirm any of my Cecil theory until Wilgy shows up, which is unfortunate. If you have specific questions I can try to answer them and I will check with the mod to see the specifics of what I can / can't say.

Main points:
Wilgy is Cecil because secrets
Eloh is Cecil because she flipped that way
One of them (probably Eloh) is actually Kevin
So..... any reason that you ruled me out as SMaf or?
You are very persistent. JOH was giving three theories to explain LC's lynch. One of them was Dom is bad. One of them is SMaf thought INH was bad. One of them is SMaf wasn't trying to save LC. JOH had crossed off the legitimaely thinking INH was bad one because assuming Rico was good and because I didn't push on INH before that it wasn't plausible (for some reason-- honestly, this one still makes the most sense to me).
So from JOH's point of view there were two theories left. I pointed out that if you were bad with me we could have lynched INH. Since we didn't, we wouldn't be teammates on SMaf. Either of us could be on SMaf seperately. But as far as Jacks theories go, if you aren't bad that leaves him with SMaf wasn't trying to save LC. So no matter what role I was, I would have no reason to try to save LC. So that wasn't what I was doing.

1) Both of us could be sMaf but didn't save LC
2) Your wording was "Dom isn't SMaf--at least not with me"
Something tells me that last addition tells us everything we need to know.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:10 pm**

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:04 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:59 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:51 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:48 pm I can't confirm any of my Cecil theory until Wilgy shows up, which is unfortunate. If you have specific questions I can try to answer them and I will check with the mod to see the specifics of what I can / can't say.

Main points:
Wilgy is Cecil because secrets
Eloh is Cecil because she flipped that way
One of them (probably Eloh) is actually Kevin
So..... any reason that you ruled me out as SMaf or?
You are very persistent. JOH was giving three theories to explain LC's lynch. One of them was Dom is bad. One of them is SMaf thought INH was bad. One of them is SMaf wasn't trying to save LC. JOH had crossed off the legitimaely thinking INH was bad one because assuming Rico was good and because I didn't push on INH before that it wasn't plausible (for some reason-- honestly, this one still makes the most sense to me).
So from JOH's point of view there were two theories left. I pointed out that if you were bad with me we could have lynched INH. Since we didn't, we wouldn't be teammates on SMaf. Either of us could be on SMaf seperately. But as far as Jacks theories go, if you aren't bad that leaves him with SMaf wasn't trying to save LC. So no matter what role I was, I would have no reason to try to save LC. So that wasn't what I was doing.
1) Both of us could be sMaf but didn't save LC
2) Your wording was "Dom isn't SMaf--at least not with me"
Something tells me that last addition tells us everything we need to know.

I think no one is responding to you because no one knows what you are getting at.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:13 pm**

You outed yourself.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:15 pm**

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:02 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:48 pm I can't confirm any of my Cecil theory until Wilgy shows up, which is unfortunate. If you have specific questions I can try to answer them and I will check with the mod to see the specifics of what I can / can't say.

Main points:
Wilgy is Cecil because secrets
Eloh is Cecil because she flipped that way
One of them (probably Eloh) is actually Kevin
Why do you think that Eloh is more likely to be Kevin than Wilgy?

1. I scumread Eloh.
2. Eloh flipping Cecil is relatively simple secret power text. The alternative would be secret power text that dramatically changes how half a dozen roles work and undermines the fabric of this game.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:16 pm**

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:13 pm You outed yourself.

I still don't get it. Usually I can see why people would think that when this comes up and I say "Oh, well that was a dumb phrasing" and I take suspicion (rightly) for it.
But I don't see this.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:19 pm**

Dom isn't SMaf--at least not with me.
So Dom could be SMaf without me.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:19 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:15 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:02 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:48 pm I can't confirm any of my Cecil theory until Wilgy shows up, which is unfortunate. If you have specific questions I can try to answer them and I will check with the mod to see the specifics of what I can / can't say.

Main points:
Wilgy is Cecil because secrets
Eloh is Cecil because she flipped that way
One of them (probably Eloh) is actually Kevin
Why do you think that Eloh is more likely to be Kevin than Wilgy?
1. I scumread Eloh.
2. Eloh flipping Cecil is relatively simple secret power text. The alternative would be secret power text that dramatically changes how half a dozen roles work and undermines the fabric of this game.

I'm interested in the specifics of this.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:30 pm**

As we are in dawn, and I fear death, I offer the following:

I'm eying TSP, INH, and--to a lesser extent--Epi the most coming into this lynch. Epi less so, although I was suspecting him more before the last lynch, so he's still on the lynch, even though he made me feel better. TSP and INH I'm feeling not at all good about.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:33 pm**

LoRab, talk me through the pros and cons of Tony in your mind, if you have time.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:42 pm**

What language would you like to study?

Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option

Spanish
1
8%
Voters: Quin
French
0
No votes
Voters: None
Modified Sumerian
1
8%
Voters: LoRab
Double Spanish
4
31%
Voters: Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005, sprityo, Boomslang
Weird Spanish
0
No votes
Voters: None
Coptic Spanish
1
8%
Voters: insertnamehere
Russian
1
8%
Voters: speedchuck
Unmodified Sumerian
3
23%
Voters: Dom, Golden, TonyStarkPrime
Klingon (host, non, mod, dead)
2
15%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, nijuukyugou
Total votes: 13

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:47 pm**

Main pro: He sounds honest. And I want to believe him, because I'm empathetic like that.

Main cons: Could be Marcus. Won't share information about multiple claims. Things that he is saying just don't add up. Reads Elo well enough to believe she must be bad, but didn't know her gender. There were a few other pings throughout his posts, but can't remember.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:58 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:48 pm I can't confirm any of my Cecil theory until Wilgy shows up, which is unfortunate. If you have specific questions I can try to answer them and I will check with the mod to see the specifics of what I can / can't say.

Main points:
Wilgy is Cecil because secrets
Eloh is Cecil because she flipped that way
One of them (probably Eloh) is actually Kevin

U wot m8? Do tell me this theory, as I would like to be reinvolved with this game.

I keep trying to catch up, but then keep being distracted. I've been building a new bedroom attached to my folk's house all weekend and I have several hundred posts to read through. I really stopped paying attention while my posts were short and sweet. Sorry fam.

I think TSP, JoH, and Golden are all good lynch candidates?

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:00 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:58 pmI think TSP, JoH, and Golden are all good lynch candidates?

I think you should catch up.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:00 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:48 pm I can't confirm any of my Cecil theory until Wilgy shows up, which is unfortunate. If you have specific questions I can try to answer them and I will check with the mod to see the specifics of what I can / can't say.

Main points:
Wilgy is Cecil because secrets
Eloh is Cecil because she flipped that way
One of them (probably Eloh) is actually Kevin
U wot m8? Do tell me this theory, as I would like to be reinvolved with this game.

I keep trying to catch up, but then keep being distracted. I've been building a new bedroom attached to my folk's house all weekend and I have several hundred posts to read through. I really stopped paying attention while my posts were short and sweet. Sorry fam.

I think TSP, JoH, and Golden are all good lynch candidates?

TSP seems to think that you are Cecil, and that he had special reason to know that, which you would likely know about. I don't want you to role claim, but I'll ask a more general question: Do you have reason to doubt the way Elo flipped?

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:01 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:48 pm I can't confirm any of my Cecil theory until Wilgy shows up, which is unfortunate. If you have specific questions I can try to answer them and I will check with the mod to see the specifics of what I can / can't say.

Main points:
Wilgy is Cecil because secrets
Eloh is Cecil because she flipped that way
One of them (probably Eloh) is actually Kevin
U wot m8? Do tell me this theory, as I would like to be reinvolved with this game.

I keep trying to catch up, but then keep being distracted. I've been building a new bedroom attached to my folk's house all weekend and I have several hundred posts to read through. I really stopped paying attention while my posts were short and sweet. Sorry fam.

I think TSP, JoH, and Golden are all good lynch candidates?

Is there a reason why your posts were short that day?

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:03 pm**

@Golden - No, fight me.

@LoRabbit - I was going to wait for EoN before I speculate anything like this. As far as I know yesterday was a role shenanigan-d clusterfuck.

@TSP - Yeah, but you won't hear it from me. I also questioned the proof behind the claims that both Rico and Dom were cursed, but you won't hear it from me.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:05 pm**

There is a car. It is winding down the highway at a speed. What speed? A speed over the speed limit. It winds down the road, hugging curves and occasionally traveling over the lines. It is alone.

The car is a station wagon. It is black. It is older. It has not been waxed in some time. It does not gleam. The black station wagon winds down the road, barely missing the small creatures that run into its path. It does not stop.

The black station wagon speeds up. It hugs a curve, but swerves onto the other side of the road. It hits a sign. The sign advertises something. That something is unreadable now.

Two figures crawl out of the smoking what used to be a station wagon. They are a woman, and a man. The man drags himself to the sign, mumbling, but is attacked by the children hiding behind it. They beat him with books. The woman speaks. She cries out to you in a foreign tongue, but you do not understand. You try, but the words just don't make sense. You should have paid more attention in Double Spanish class, but you were too busy making paper airplanes and whispering lies to the government into your desk.

You try to help the woman, but she vanishes before you can reach her. Too bad. Guess you'll have to find another ride to work.

This has been traffic.

Intern Lorab has been killed by StrexCorp. Intern timmer has been killed by an army of child soldiers.

It it now Day 4. You have 24 hours to find the culprit.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:06 pm**

Well shit. I was hoping LoRabbit would have lasted longer than me.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:10 pm**

Listeners, another tape from the break room:

Listeners? Can you hear me listeners? I am once again broadcasting from my mobile broadcasting station, and yes, I is referring to me, the real Cecil Gershwin Palmer. I come back to you with good news that I have avoided all street cleaners and am alive and well.

As there is only one me, and doppelgangers have been made illegal by the world government I do not fully understand how there could have been another "ME." I said that while making air quotes with my hands if the imagery helps you.

For some reason during yesterday's events, another Cecil has appeared. I have reason to suspect that Intern Elochin, was actually mayoral candidate and literal five headed dragon, Hiram McDaniels, simply disguised as me. This makes sense, as when Hiram was first arrested by the sheriff's secret police he was attempting to appear as his friend Frank Chen.

I have not yet identified the person broadcasting from station management.

I do need to take a moment to go to news not related to the Intern Relay. It's time for this weeks horoscopes.

Virgo: You should be proud of yourself today! But not too proud. Just proud of yourself and your life. You've managed to live until at least today. That's alot, when you think about all those who didn't.

Libra: Go get some Chinese food. Your real horoscope will be found within your fortune cookie.

Scorpio: You really should reach out to that someone you've been thinking about. They have been thinking about you. they have been watching you. You cannot avoid them any longer.

Sagittarius: Take a bath, a nap, and let yourself drift away. You need to relax and you owe that to yourself. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise... Anyone.

Capricorn: Have you ever google'd your own name? You should. Those photos need to be taken down as soon as possible.

Aquarius: Go outside tonight. Look towards the stars. Even if they are out of sight, they are your friends and shall keep you safe. Think about how the universe, so large and vast, is keeping you, so small and insignificant, safe.

Pisces: YOU’VE WON ANOTHER NEW CAR! LUCKY YOU PISCES!

Aries: The next person to approach you really needs to be yelled at. It doesn't matter what you shout, but yell at them, and yell at them good.

Taurus: You do not need to do anything today. Everything will be alright.

Gemini: Look to the person to your left. They are conspiring against you. It will not have a significant impact on your life, but they are conspiring.

Cancer: Use only emojis to communicate. People love it, and it's not annoying. You will not be killed for communicating this way.

Leo: You are from the future and already know what your horoscope for this week was. Don't make me waste my time.

And that concludes this week's horoscopes... and I think my broadcast for now listeners. I think I see Old Woman Josie in the distance, and I should see how she's doing. I haven't heard from John Peter's (You know the farmer?) since two nights ago and fear for his well being. Until next time Night Vale.

That...was a lot of meowing. Huh.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:12 pm**

While I continue to figure out these tapes, I take you now to the double weather:

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:12 pm**

Out of respect for LoRabbit... My friend who is now dead. I shall take my own life.

*The Doctor pulls out a tanto and goes down to his knees. He drives the knife into his belly and draws it across his abdomen. He coughs up blood and begins to cry from the pain. He removes the knife and presses it to the middle of his chest, presses it in, and draws it down to complete his seppuku. Wilgy falls over in his own blood. He cries thinking about LoRabbit and the pain of being disemboweled... and dies.*

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:13 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:03 pm @Golden - No, fight me.

@LoRabbit - I was going to wait for EoN before I speculate anything like this. As far as I know yesterday was a role shenanigan-d clusterfuck.

@TSP - Yeah, but you won't hear it from me. I also questioned the proof behind the claims that both Rico and Dom were cursed, but you won't hear it from me.

Okay. I think we're on the same page.

Also, RIP Lorab

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:13 pm**

Well, I guess Timmer dying is convenient. No replacement needed.

Sad to see you both go though

linki: wtf

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:16 pm**

fuck yeah a new car

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:18 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:19 pm Dom isn't SMaf--at least not with me.
So Dom could be SMaf without me.

It implies you are.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:00 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:58 pmI think TSP, JoH, and Golden are all good lynch candidates?
I think you should catch up.

do you think he's really behind?

I am saddened by LoRab's death.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:20 pm**

RIP me.

To whoever killed me: Really? You suck.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:28 pm**

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:18 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:19 pm Dom isn't SMaf--at least not with me.
So Dom could be SMaf without me.
It implies you are.

It implies you are.

for it to imply that I am Maf it would say

I am not SMaf -- at least not with Dom

and that 1. Would be a stupid thing to say and 2. Is not what I said

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:34 pm**

You're soooo bad.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:35 pm**

Also I have no clue wtf is going on with this cecil stuff.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:46 pm**

Implications

Cecil is alive, Elo is Kevin
Dom was not teamed with Elo, so is not StrexCorp
Tony had good reason to suspect that Elo was not Cecil. Needs analysis on what those reasons could be.

With timmer dead and Quin not off the poll, the pool of people I actually suspect and can vote for has dwindled significantly.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:47 pm**

I have no clue waht y'all are talking about.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:52 pm**

"Cecil is alive, Elo is Kevin"

This is the part where I'm like...

Ok cool but where the hell did that come from?

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:54 pm**

I guess I get the arguments that there's no way Eloh had time to write the Cecil posts.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:55 pm**

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:54 pm I guess I get the arguments that there's no way Eloh had time to write the Cecil posts.

this, i can agree with

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:56 pm**

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:52 pm "Cecil is alive, Elo is Kevin"

This is the part where I'm like...

Ok cool but where the hell did that come from?

Tony had the theory. Wilgy seems to have confirmed it. Then we got a message from Cecil overnight, suggesting Cecil is still alive.

It could be a massive team trick and Tony and Wilgy could be allies who know they get the power of Cecil after Cecil died, this is possible.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:56 pm**

And by 'theory' I'm guessing 'info', although I know Tony can't say it if true so it's a working assumption.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:02 pm**

What i find interesting of the night results is Tamika killing timmer

what do we think of this considering the only person really gunning for timmer was Dom yesterday

I do not believe Dom to be Tamika

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:04 pm**

timmer seems like a reasonable kill choice for any townie.

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