The Syndicate

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:11 pm

Well woopty doo, I didn't prepare a video for a final-30-minute vote switch on Vompatti, either. Enjoy this shitty short YouTube clip, instead.

Linki: No I don't Scotty!!

Spoiler: show

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:18 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:16 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:13 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:56 pm As a final legacy post in case I still die somehow, if Vompatti is scum you can categorically remove everyone voting alongside me from your POE.

Yikes. I don’t like this as a legacy post. There is nothing legacy about this.

Times like this make me wish this were retrocausality mafia so I can stop myself from checking mafia in the bathroom a few hours ago because now I’m back to you being bad

What do you mean?

If Vompatti is scum, and Fractal or speed are on their team, they have NO reason to persuade people off me. And you have absolutely no reason to switch. I was the consensus lynch candidate for about 22 hours; nobody would have came for any of you, except for maybe you for my calling out, had I died. It doesn’t clear me, but it definitely would have cleared them/you.

It seems hokey as a legacy post, and that also does not clear anyone. That was started towards the end of the day about 20 min before EoD. It may not have even picked up. Mafia could use that as advantageous if they bet on it not picking up

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:20 pm Colin, what other games have you been bad in? Besides Easter?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:58 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:52 pm Wow, go in to church and vomps was lynched? How? I don’t like that.

What don’t you like about it?

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:23 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:58 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:52 pm Wow, go in to church and vomps was lynched? How? I don’t like that.

What don’t you like about it?

I don’t know precisely yet, I haven’t read anything. It was just a shock. Sig had provided some suspicion, I didn’t see vomps as a likely candidate for motivation to kill juliets. It’s low hanging fruit.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:24 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:23 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:58 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:52 pm Wow, go in to church and vomps was lynched? How? I don’t like that.

What don’t you like about it?

I don’t know precisely yet, I haven’t read anything. It was just a shock. Sig had provided some suspicion, I didn’t see vomps as a likely candidate for motivation to kill juliets. It’s low hanging fruit.

Who do you see as a candidate to want to lynch Juliets? Like actually tho.

That kill was random af

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:23 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:20 pm Colin, what other games have you been bad in? Besides Easter?

Fire Walk With Me, Ancient Greece

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:24 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:23 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:58 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:52 pm Wow, go in to church and vomps was lynched? How? I don’t like that.

What don’t you like about it?

I don’t know precisely yet, I haven’t read anything. It was just a shock. Sig had provided some suspicion, I didn’t see vomps as a likely candidate for motivation to kill juliets. It’s low hanging fruit.

Who do you see as a candidate to want to lynch Juliets? Like actually tho.

That kill was random af

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:41 pm Hahaha, yes, Ramses takes requests!

King Ramses wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:38 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:31 pm And yes I voted for Vomp first, but I don't like the way that wagon picked up, I'd be down for Colin lynch tomorrow.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:44 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:31 pm And yes I voted for Vomp first, but I don't like the way that wagon picked up, I'd be down for Colin lynch tomorrow.

Are you saying you suspect Fractal and/or speed?

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:54 pm Honestly your posts leading up to the lynch read more gut bad to me then good, a twinge of desperation filled them, one that didn't seem townie.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:17 pmMy gth bad reads without having any kind of case, are Kyle and inh. In kyles case possibly Ramses.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:44 am

My Host Post Videos over the past two cycles have had no views (except by me when previewing them before posting). Each one is two minutes long tops.

Should I not bother anymore?

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:09 pm Dom is kinda hard to read for yrstruly, and I honestly don't get why he's the guy that the mob ganged up against on Day 1. I'm always willing to vote for the most inactive person in the absence of any stronger suspects, and Lapluie has earned my ire.

[VOTE: lapluie] aubergine

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:27 pm Now onto my suspects:

LC reads damn weird to me. I'd be utterly chuffed if he was lynched today. In fact, the people apprehensive about lynching him despite agreeing with the case on him are inspiring some apprehension in myself.

Nutella, I've honestly gotten neutral vibes from. I disagree with her about Speed, but I also agree that a bad Nutella wouldn't necessarily be so vocal about him. I'm willing to keep her around a bit longer.

What are people's stances on siggy-boy?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:19 pm hmmmm

well if it's between long con and nutella i think nutella looks worse

however speed brought up some good points about her not playing like fire emblem, i think i want to review LC's activity at early u-pick to see if juliets is right. I remember him being active but maybe I'm just remembering his bts persona

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:27 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:23 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:19 pm well if it's between long con and nutella i think nutella looks worse

What if it wasn't, though?

1.5 hours left. Don't restrict yourself if this is town/town, or if there's a better option.

that's actually what I'm thinking.

long con's behavior in u-pick was different than it is here. in that game sure he wasn't like super "town" day 1 or anything but he put effort into asking questions and even made a big multi paragraph post. That doesn't mean LC isn't mafia here, but if LC is mafia here then he's taking a noticably different (more laid back) approach to the game.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:36 pm between nutella and colin i think colin looks worse, my main worry about nutella was her treatment of her suspicion of me, but i don't see her lowering it at the end of day 2 before long con's lynch as being an optimal move for a baddie to make when there wasn't any pressure for her to not make that and also suspecting me early game for not seeming like im contributing is pretty easy to get away with.

my read through of colin's posts left me consistently pinged enough that I'm comfy leaving a vote there

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:50 am I'm going to [VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine because I think it would be cool to try a randomized day one lynch, and DDL is the next one down on the poll who needs a vote.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:34 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:31 pm

Spoiler: show

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:07 pm Part of the problem with my nutella pings is I notice them almost right off the bat - maybe not her first post but by her second or third I'm feeling uneasy. This time I haven't had that feeling at all. I'm not saying it's AI because I seem to be pinged by her when she is good and bad. Because I'm not pinged this time I'm neutral on her.

This post feels like teammates.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:20 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:13 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:55 pm So why are you voting Dom and not nutella?

Dom pinged me for other reasons. I've explained them earlier. Tonal meta.

@Marmot I may switch to Dom. I trust speedchuck is town, and he has a better read on Dom's meta than I do.

This post feels like bandwagoning.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:14 pm Agree here and if speed suspects Luna he's probably onto something

This post also feels like bandwagoning.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:17 pm My later posts say the opposite.

I've been burned too many times by Luna for underestimating her. I will not be doing that this game.

This post feels like legit frustration.

Gotta love couples in mafia games. So much delicious WIFOM to analyse, from themselves and others.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:05 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:40 pm

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:38 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:13 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:09 pm laplui e hsnt done abything other than show up and say "aw beans" why does she have multiple votes

I think all the votes for her came before she complained about the beans.

Yeah seriously somebody explain to me why??? Barely said anything that looked sus yet I'm accused

I voted for you by default for not posting. Idk why others did.

I voted for the same reason lap. But now you are posting so I'm going to move my vote to the lowest poster nova who as far as I can see just posted his story and has posted nothing else. He was a low poster in a recent game I just played and was bad.

[VOTE: novaselinever] aubergine

This post feels like really lazy.

Civ Juliets is not lazy iirc.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:07 pm INH’s post tonally was so false to me that I don’t think I’ll be defaulting to nova.
I dunno about Dom. Hard to read I guess.

Epignosis is not in this game but if he was I feel like he's have stuff to nitpick about this word usage.

I think.

I guess.

I want to clarify something about my town meta, DDL. When I'm town I'm a lot more adventurous with my posts, sometimes at the risk of getting lynched early. Also If I were on a scum team with Marmot, I would not be communicating with him in thread like this, I would use our BTSC. I'm insulted that you think I would be that obvious.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:27 am Long Con seems more excited about screaming at the music videos than posting real content, so I'm going to look at him for a second.

He shoots down sig's proposition on day 1, but come on, who didn't.
He missed the day one vote.
He ended up on DDL's list of screaming banshees, but I'm not convinced that means anything.
Put off replying to sig with what he thought about the day 1 lynch.
Continues to scream back at King Ramses
Asks speedchuck and Kylmii why they voted for him (on what I assume was the day one poll?).

Overall feel on Long Con: He seems lazy in this game, and not very helpful. I give him a read of probably scum.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:11 pm From what I see of nutella's posts, she is very set on getting speed lynched. And speed is trying very hard in this game, which makes him a threat to town. I don't like that look on nutella. She also seems needlessly concerned with the King Ramses sock puppet account. At this point I don't see a reason to be concerned with a sock puppet account that posts random weird videos. And she's voting Lapluie, who I'm also looking at. So they are probably not team mates.

Lapluie looks like low-hanging fruit to me right now. She had a bit of a slow start, and appears to be struggling to keep up. I don't have reason to think she's not town, and I don't want to lynch her today, but I'll definitely be keeping my eye on her.

In fact, after looking at lapluie's posts, if just makes nutella seem that much more scummy for jumping from speed to lapluie. It's like she realized speed wasn't going down easy, so she found a easier target.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:12 pm I'm gonna [VOTE: nijuukyugou] aubergine

Her greatest contribution thus far is stating that she dislikes when someone asks another player for their meta, and then she describes her meta as congruent between her civilian and mafia play.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:01 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:50 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:38 pm Has lapluie posted?

Not that I've seen.

She's checked into the scumchat. She should be here soon.

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:35 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:12 pm I'm gonna [VOTE: nijuukyugou] aubergine

Her greatest contribution thus far is stating that she dislikes when someone asks another player for their meta, and then she describes her meta as congruent between her civilian and mafia play.

Well, that answered my question about your vote when looking at the poll. And this is why I don't like questions about meta - I wouldn't win whether or not I chose to answer it, hence being backed into a wall. But fair enough - I chose to answer it as I did. I actually appreciate the suspicion from you and Luna - I'm noticed! It's sig's trust that weirds me out a little.

Obligatory Day 1 philosophy/early commentary: if none of you buggers catches my eye significantly, I will vote a very low poster. I'll repeat and re-repeat (in reference to other games I've played) that I'd rather lynch a nonplayer and get a chance of catching a baddie lying low than lynch a civ who's actually playing Day 1 because they talk. I'll be here, checking in and out, for a bit. Conversation is nice since I have time to do it, yay!

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:09 pm All right, I gotta go soon for Appointment #5343256 today (actually it's #4, but still that's a lot for one day), but I have caught up enough to give a vote.

@ColinIsCool, thanks for answering my question. Makes sense. I like gathering reads and reactions.

I see a linki for Golden - from what I see between the two, it's Luna's (I hope I'm right - I'm just typing from memory rather than going back meticulously through the thread) breakdown of LC's behavior. Missing the vote, contributing fluff, etc. I considered him, as well as lapluie again, for a vote, for being mostly absent and fluffy (awwww), especially lap - she disappeared after suspicion died pretty quick, but I also see others saying this is "normal" for her. I know LC's a busy dude, and the last couple of games I've played with him, he's been like this, IIRC. Mixed alignments, IIRCA (the A is for Again). But I don't like letting possible baddies lie low for long, busyness or "playstyle" or not.

I'm most pinged today, however, by nutella, especially in regards to suspicion of speedchuck. I get it - you're looking at his previous games as a baddie and playing at Supatown. But I found myself asking the same question as someone else (sorry, don't remember who, even though I think it's even on this page): since when did apathy indicate civvieness? I know I've been burned a few times by super active people fooling me into thinking they're good because of their activity, but I feel like I've been fooled more often by those lying close to the surface (literally and figuratively, different verbs).

Yes, my vote is slightly contradicting what I've just said about low-lying players (hell, even as I'm writing it, I'm second-guessing the crap out of myself, as this tie is more favorable than yesterday's IMO), but I'm going with nutella since I feel the stronger ping the more I read her.

(Do y'all want an aubergine with that? They're pretty all right, but I prefer squash in the summer.)

Good god the linki (yes I'm going to comment on it every time it happens)

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:52 am I warned y’all that Vomp wasn’t a good lynch target unless there was literally no better option. Dude has the most bulletproof meta ever.

I’ll be honest, both Nutella and Colin have me quite confused as to their alignment. If I had to guess, with a proverbial gun to my head, I’d say they were both civ.

That brief little list of possible scum reads I posted after LC’s death was mainly gut-based throwing-spaghetti-at-the-wall type stuff. It did weird me out how freaked out Scotty was by being named in it. Little bit too overly defensive IMO

On the road and phone posting, so I’m not sure how much I’ll be able to contribute to the discourse. I’ll leave everyone with this hot take that I really truly only 70% believe in: Marmot, Lapluie, Sig, Scotty. At least one of those people is bad.