The Syndicate

Lol but the one voting for sloonei is ddl hahaha

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:42 pm [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine bc at least he already has a vote and so does ddl bit I'm less decided on ddl

are you up to speed with sloonei's latest contributions?

Darkhorse mafia read.

Someone tell me why Lunalee is a civilian.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:44 pm Darkhorse mafia read.

Someone tell me why Lunalee is a civilian.

Magic

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:44 pm Darkhorse mafia read.

Someone tell me why Lunalee is a civilian.

My read on Lunalee is currently tied up in my read on Dunya. And I'm feeling less bad about Dunya at the moment.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:27 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:25 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:18 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:17 pmthen came back this morning and said suspicious things.

What were they?

“I don’t care about this thing. Nutella, address it immediate.”

“Player salad > everything.”

That was terrible of me. What a goof. I wish I hadn't done that by accident.



You're reading everything I do in this game at Level 1 without thinking any more deeply than that. It's one of the biggest reasons I have suspected you so much.

I guess I’m just a level one player, Jay. But I’m gonna level one shoot you in the face.

BTW I think Pou is town.

linki: give jAck yo guns

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:44 pm Darkhorse mafia read.

Someone tell me why Lunalee is a civilian.

i have none, but lunalee is just always so scummy to me. i always question things she's saying but she says them in such an offhanded manner, i doubt she thought very much how they would look after being read by someone who isn't in her brain. that's what she has going for her.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:45 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:44 pm Darkhorse mafia read.

Someone tell me why Lunalee is a civilian.

My read on Lunalee is currently tied up in my read on Dunya. And I'm feeling less bad about Dunya at the moment.

how are we even connected

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:45 pm I guess I’m just a level one player, Jay. But I’m gonna level one shoot you in the face.

You definitely are not. It doesn't have to make you bad, but it certainly hinders your ability to understand my play. I'm not doing anything super complex here, but the civilian indicators ought to be visible to someone who has a vested interest in finding them. My posts often have more than one purpose. Consider that as you read my content.

Okay, then I'll tell you why Luna looks bad.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:50 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:45 pm I guess I’m just a level one player, Jay. But I’m gonna level one shoot you in the face.

You definitely are not. It doesn't have to make you bad, but it certainly hinders your ability to understand my play. I'm not doing anything super complex here, but the civilian indicators ought to be visible to someone who has a vested interest in finding them. My posts often have more than one purpose. Consider that as you read my content.

oh boy, here we go again

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:46 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:44 pm Darkhorse mafia read.

Someone tell me why Lunalee is a civilian.

i have none, but lunalee is just always so scummy to me. i always question things she's saying but she says them in such an offhanded manner, i doubt she thought very much how they would look after being read by someone who isn't in her brain. that's what she has going for her.

I expect all of you to read my mind and know I'm town.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:44 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:42 pm [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine bc at least he already has a vote and so does ddl bit I'm less decided on ddl

are you up to speed with sloonei's latest contributions?

Yes, as I said I had mixed feelings about his exchange with pou but he's still a net negative. His three isos in a row overnight felt a bit like forcing himself to look town/like he's hunting and just showing some busy work.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:54 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:44 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:42 pm [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine bc at least he already has a vote and so does ddl bit I'm less decided on ddl

are you up to speed with sloonei's latest contributions?

Yes, as I said I had mixed feelings about his exchange with pou but he's still a net negative. His three isos in a row overnight felt a bit like forcing himself to look town/like he's hunting and just showing some busy work.

ooh, you know I sort of thought the same thing when I saw those random ISOs.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:44 pm Darkhorse mafia read.

Someone tell me why Lunalee is a civilian.

No reason. Good point. I kinda forgot about her tbh but like her other half she's usually bad so maybe different is good. Idk, she's in a similar spot as Quin imo. Need more data or they're default scum.

why would he have to force himself to hunt? it seems to me sloonei had one foot out of the game because it's a 72 day 1 and he's heavily involved in another ongoing game. it reached a point here where he agreed with people's suspicions and he had to make more of an effort. he makes that effort, and people are calling it "forced". classic example of man can't win.

i would in no world lynch sloonei day 1 today unless there was a cop in this game who somehow got a scum read on him. there isn't. he ain't going today.

Beefs with Lunalee


This is a pseudo-relevant thing disguised as a joke. "Mac being Mac" says something about Mac even when a stance is not provided. She expanded with an assertion I'd call a bit dubious when prompted.


This was in response to dunya asking Luna about speedchuck's ISO. "Looks pretty normal" is not a read. "Won't shoot Day 1 but maybe later" is neither a suspicion nor a defense (or it could be called both simultaneously).


This is a goofy defense of dunya without regard for her alignment. She affirmed that it was without regard for her alignment. That's a very friendly approach to dunya.


Looks kinda fake, mate.


I sense some mental gymnastics happening here to end up with a vote on the lead wagon.


I don't know if I have ever seen someone say something like this before. That isn't necessarily suspicious, but it's peculiar.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:56 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:44 pm Darkhorse mafia read.

Someone tell me why Lunalee is a civilian.

No reason. Good point. I kinda forgot about her tbh but like her other half she's usually bad so maybe different is good. Idk, she's in a similar spot as Quin imo. Need more data or they're default scum.

huh? how many times has luna been bad? i only know upick and shockheaded mafia. i think what you're trying to say is "luna always looks bad and gets mislynched". she roleclaimed and was almost mislynched even. that's typical luna to me.

jay's iso of luna

none of that makes me swayed to lynch her. all of that seems like "typical town luna" to me tbh. she defends me constantly as civ and it's unsurprising anymore lol.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:03 pm jay's iso of luna

none of that makes me swayed to lynch her. all of that seems like "typical town luna" to me tbh. she defends me constantly as civ and it's unsurprising anymore lol.

What is not typical town Luna?

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] has said nothing about [mention]poutanko[/mention] in the way of a stance apart from the town GTH read.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:04 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:03 pm jay's iso of luna

none of that makes me swayed to lynch her. all of that seems like "typical town luna" to me tbh. she defends me constantly as civ and it's unsurprising anymore lol.

What is not typical town Luna?

saying things that sound very hard to wrap your head around. i know it's a stretch, but she plays fast and loose as town. this falls into my suspicion of leetic who is displaying complete opposite tendencies to me.

this feels like the mislynch waiting to happen from ancient greece all over again. i think she's sincere so far and while a lot has left me feeling confused, nothing has dramatically wanted me to lynch her today.

edit: saying things that DON'T sound very hard to wrap your head around.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:04 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:03 pm jay's iso of luna

none of that makes me swayed to lynch her. all of that seems like "typical town luna" to me tbh. she defends me constantly as civ and it's unsurprising anymore lol.

What is not typical town Luna?

I'll help you out a bit:
quieter thread presence
waits until late EOD to decide who to vote
"forced" reads that are reluctant to change

in Upick, she displayed a different kind of constraint in her posts imo. i think i thought she was town in that game for a good chunk of time

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:08 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:04 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:03 pm jay's iso of luna

none of that makes me swayed to lynch her. all of that seems like "typical town luna" to me tbh. she defends me constantly as civ and it's unsurprising anymore lol.

What is not typical town Luna?

I'll help you out a bit:
quieter thread presence
waits until late EOD to decide who to vote
"forced" reads that are reluctant to change

even this post oozes sincerity and i'm wearing my "look at it from a mafioso's tone" glasses!

i'm going out tonight. have fun and play nice. i'm comfy with where my vote is today.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:00 pm

Spoiler: show

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:18 am I feel like I need to pick a side to break the Pou/Mac tie. Mac looks pretty good, but he's been silent the past few pages where as pou has been actively defending herself. Regardless of alignment, that always makes someone look worse. But I don't think she's scum for it.

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

I sense some mental gymnastics happening here to end up with a vote on the lead wagon.

This is my favorite point. I wasn't a fan of that post of hers.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:07 pmthis falls into my suspicion of leetic who is displaying complete opposite tendencies to me.

I understand that, and it sort of relates to my differing perspective of leetic. I don't see him as a "fast and loose" guy in general. He hasn't been that in his previous civilian games, and it got him in trouble with some people. He is a different sort of player and reminds me a bit of RedMosquito from our old RYM era -- he plays at his own pace, conveys a formal tone, and hunts his own way.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:00 pm

Spoiler: show

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:18 am I feel like I need to pick a side to break the Pou/Mac tie. Mac looks pretty good, but he's been silent the past few pages where as pou has been actively defending herself. Regardless of alignment, that always makes someone look worse. But I don't think she's scum for it.

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

I sense some mental gymnastics happening here to end up with a vote on the lead wagon.

This is my favorite point. I wasn't a fan of that post of hers.

nah, that's one of the towniest posts she has. she's definitely one with experience and it felt like lunalee related with pou. do you know how many times a game lunalee gets to be on the defensive side of a game and everything she says is flipped around? i've never seen a game where it hasn't happened, repeatedly. even after the woman role claims she's still suspected and has to defend her decisions and posts.

if anything, that post made me feel like civ lunalee is feeling sorry for someone who's actively trying to defend herself and falling on deaf ears. macdougall isn't even trying to defend. i like her rationale very much.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:22 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:07 pmthis falls into my suspicion of leetic who is displaying complete opposite tendencies to me.

I understand that, and it sort of relates to my differing perspective of leetic. I don't see him as a "fast and loose" guy in general. He hasn't been that in his previous civilian games, and it got him in trouble with some people. He is a different sort of player and reminds me a bit of RedMosquito from our old RYM era -- he plays at his own pace, conveys a formal tone, and hunts his own way.

i'll keep that in mind.

gth: ts account is scum. fight me on that.

Okay, I'll consider your perspective. I haven't made a firm decision about Luna by any means.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:27 pm gth: ts account is scum. fight me on that.

Nah

ITT: dunya disagrees with you



(jk it's fine)

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:27 pm gth: ts account is scum. fight me on that.

Could be. I thought their tone was gravy early, but that's not as meaningful after 19 out of 1,700 posts or whatever. If I were to build a POE they'd be in it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:38 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:36 pm Salad is differentiated from suspect lists by virtue of being just tossed out where as suspects have reasons for existing. By his own admission, Jay doesn’t care about the reasons but he still wants to call salad.

Got em.

That is again the wrong definition of salad. That's the "salad" that leads to mislynches, because nobody knows wtf it actually is.

Textbook salad, as I have said in 40 games now (I can retrieve the posts) is: "I am willing to lynch X, Y, Z, or maybe W."

Why is that scum indicative, though.

There are six wolves. It’s okay to have multiple suspects. It’s not okay to go fishing for the most popular suspect cause you don’t have real opinions cause you’re scum.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:34 pmWhy is that scum indicative, though.

Because I've caught scum doing it 80 times. If I have to I will show you that, because I have already compiled the history in previous games. It isn't foolproof, but it's solid. Casting a wide net leaves options open. Some of those included in the pile are civilians. Nice to have them on deck when the time comes.

I am serious when I say that no single scum tell has ever been more reliable in all my Mafia tenure than that one.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:35 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:34 pmWhy is that scum indicative, though.

Because I've caught scum doing it 80 times. If I have to I will show you that, because I have already compiled the history in previous games. It isn't foolproof, but it's solid. Casting a wide net leaves options open. Some of those included in the pile are civilians. Nice to have them on deck when the time comes.

how many times has a civilian also done it, though? do you have a history complied of that?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:39 pm Jack, you're playing Connect Four with me again. I believe you're a Chess player, and you're playing Connect Four.

I mostly play SMT

Chess is a game for scum, positioning and trying to setup a win state. I’m more at a batting cage.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:44 pm Darkhorse mafia read.

Someone tell me why Lunalee is a civilian.

Supposing Dunya is town, tell me why she’s not.

I finally pick myself up off the floor in this game and you guys create like 10 new pages while I’m asleep.
It’s not my fault I slept til 1 in the afternoon.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:38 pm how many times has a civilian also done it, though? do you have a history complied of that?

The last time I hurled the accusation, it was at Colin. I am trying to find the game. He was a civilian.

That's the only time I've ever seen an exception to the rule since I started looking for it. There are probably others from across the eras, but every time I see that shit I hawk onto it -- it happens over and over. I'll share very soon once I can find the bloody thing.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:45 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:44 pm Darkhorse mafia read.

Someone tell me why Lunalee is a civilian.

My read on Lunalee is currently tied up in my read on Dunya. And I'm feeling less bad about Dunya at the moment.

Huh.

I know you’re alternative universe me but this is still a surprise.

I'm twenty pages behind, so I'm voting Poutanko because ties are fun.

Now I'll start trying to actually catch up.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:40 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:44 pm Darkhorse mafia read.

Someone tell me why Lunalee is a civilian.

Supposing Dunya is town, tell me why she’s not.

Is "she" Luna in this context? I'll assume so.

dunya's alignment is not critical to Luna's alignment. Okay I'm done.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:50 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:45 pm I guess I’m just a level one player, Jay. But I’m gonna level one shoot you in the face.

You definitely are not. It doesn't have to make you bad, but it certainly hinders your ability to understand my play. I'm not doing anything super complex here, but the civilian indicators ought to be visible to someone who has a vested interest in finding them. My posts often have more than one purpose. Consider that as you read my content.

Omg best giver claim. Scumread withdrawn.