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Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:32 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:50 am Besides that

TSP looks all game-solvey and I don't wanna lynch him.

Agreed, I had a look at his ISO and it is strong.

Mac is barely playing tbh he's just doing the more abridged version of Mac Attack due to probabvly not having read everything. Scum or just inactive townie coasting, pick one. We should lynch him eventually maybe.

I tend to agree, but I'm more in the camp "he will show us more before LYLO" than "lynch him eventually maybe".

Michelle feels game-solvey too. But I don't like the fact she spent the last EoD focusing on my voteless suspicions against her instead of the lynch poll. If nova flipped bad I'd clear Michelle for that, but nova flipped a civ so what we have left is some very succesful coasting by her if she's scum.

She's got some solvacious things going on there. I'm getting a 'possible teammate' vibe from you and Tony, with you both engaging her in suspicion around that time. I don't blame her so much for ding to you guys.

Lynching WIlgy is so 2017...

I had you pegged as a man who appreciates the classics...

Epi is meh. Activity is fine, whatever, but he's lacking more bickering and suttorness that I've come to know and love from Epi. That said the availableness argument still kind of excuses that. And today he did the Sloon thing which looks more like classic Epi.

Why do you bring up "the Sloon thing" and not "the Dom thing"?

Sig looked pretty legit N1 then vanished. It's weird for Sig not to be the focus in a game.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:38 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:57 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
what's my alignment?

Late indeed but i read you villager and i said it few times. I don't want to lynch in that wagon. You lynched scum in a moment when wasn't really necessary.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:48 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:32 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:50 amMichelle feels game-solvey too. But I don't like the fact she spent the last EoD focusing on my voteless suspicions against her instead of the lynch poll. If nova flipped bad I'd clear Michelle for that, but nova flipped a civ so what we have left is some very succesful coasting by her if she's scum.
She's got some solvacious things going on there. I'm getting a 'possible teammate' vibe from you and Tony, with you both engaging her in suspicion around that time. I don't blame her so much for ding to you guys.

I think that was "responding to you guys" and I don't know where the rest of the word went.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:54 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:48 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:32 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:50 amMichelle feels game-solvey too. But I don't like the fact she spent the last EoD focusing on my voteless suspicions against her instead of the lynch poll. If nova flipped bad I'd clear Michelle for that, but nova flipped a civ so what we have left is some very succesful coasting by her if she's scum.
She's got some solvacious things going on there. I'm getting a 'possible teammate' vibe from you and Tony, with you both engaging her in suspicion around that time. I don't blame her so much for ding to you guys.
I think that was "responding to you guys" and I don't know where the rest of the word went.

exactly when i had a big question mark for the meaning of that sentence...

I wanted to do things on pc but I didn't go these to work so my search for votes couldn't happen.

Side note:
The feeling of why not 2017 is very strong rn... what do you have against a 2017 approach?
Going for the idea if a mafia team active means that we can mislynch all the townies who are trying to solve and let low posters and wishy washy posters aside. smh

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:03 pm**

My thoughts now:

Epi claimed to be busy... meh
DrW dissapeard, scum lean
Mac is talking little, idk
Sloonei is pinging everyone doesn't give scum vibes.
DDL i did 't like a post let me search it is in last 50

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:35 am
Spoiler: show

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:12 pm Vote: Epi

Epi was integral to the Dom lynch and at least voted for Nova. The “Epi isn’t doing anything” narrative misses that Epi has had just as much direction as almost anyone else.
I hate this logic. Being in town lynches correlates very little with actually being scum.

That said, this fact is giving me pause about jumping on the Sloonei wagon, because it would be the third consecutive time I followed an Epi case. If Epi is bad he's playing me 3 times.
But I'm itching to break Sloonei just to see what's inside.

so not because he is scum but from curiosity? nagl

TSP i just like the vibe
Long Con idk

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:04 pm**

my lynch pool is in DrW, DDL and Epi

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:22 pm**

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine for now, that sentence is very bad

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:25 pm**

going to sleep, Eod is at 4 am, if i wake up I will be here

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:31 pm**

I'm here kinda.

Sloonie being the last of the big 4 does suck and seems a bit off, but I'm hesitant to vote there since there isn't much to justify it.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:50 pm**

Reading through DDL's posts are a bit meh.

While I voted for him and saw the positives of the inactive is scum argument it ended up being wrong, he also tried to pursue Michelle and is now kinda laying the ground work for Sloonie. I need to ISO him in depth but something that caught my eye was this post about Nova

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:39 pm Sorry if I'm wrong, nova. But that's the game.

I know it's probably a nothing post but it could easily be read as setting up for a mislynch.

I'm going to go ISO DDL and Sloonie the two wagons and look over D3 really fast.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:51 pm**

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

For now,

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:25 pm**

I will also [VOTE: DDL] aubergine.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:45 pm**

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:46 pm**

I’m at work and want to comment on things but I don’t have time.

Epi is my tinfoil suspect. I’m not uncomfortable with my vote on DDL at the moment.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:04 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:48 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:32 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:50 amMichelle feels game-solvey too. But I don't like the fact she spent the last EoD focusing on my voteless suspicions against her instead of the lynch poll. If nova flipped bad I'd clear Michelle for that, but nova flipped a civ so what we have left is some very succesful coasting by her if she's scum.
She's got some solvacious things going on there. I'm getting a 'possible teammate' vibe from you and Tony, with you both engaging her in suspicion around that time. I don't blame her so much for ding to you guys.
I think that was "responding to you guys" and I don't know where the rest of the word went.
exactly when i had a big question mark for the meaning of that sentence...

I wanted to do things on pc but I didn't go these to work so my search for votes couldn't happen.

Side note:
The feeling of why not 2017 is very strong rn... what do you have against a 2017 approach?
Going for the idea if a mafia team active means that we can mislynch all the townies who are trying to solve and let low posters and wishy washy posters aside. smh

Because I've seen the "wilgy is not playing seriously so let's lynch him" approach 10 times already and it backfired in most of them, so I'm underwhelmed by it.

Lynching Wilgy is lottery.

I mean we could do it now. Maybe we should if he doesn't show up. It feels super sad and boring, though.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:09 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:03 pm My thoughts now:

Epi claimed to be busy... meh
DrW dissapeard, scum lean
Mac is talking little, idk
Sloonei is pinging everyone doesn't give scum vibes.
DDL i did 't like a post let me search it is in last 50
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:35 am
Spoiler: show

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:12 pm Vote: Epi

Epi was integral to the Dom lynch and at least voted for Nova. The “Epi isn’t doing anything” narrative misses that Epi has had just as much direction as almost anyone else.
I hate this logic. Being in town lynches correlates very little with actually being scum.

That said, this fact is giving me pause about jumping on the Sloonei wagon, because it would be the third consecutive time I followed an Epi case. If Epi is bad he's playing me 3 times.
But I'm itching to break Sloonei just to see what's inside.
so not because he is scum but from curiosity? nagl

TSP i just like the vibe
Long Con idk

This is stupid. That post was obviously jest.

I'm not going to come here and outright say "I don't want to lynch scum" if I'm scum. I didn't start playing mafia yesterday.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:38 pm**

DDL lynch can’t be optimal

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:38 pm**

Vote: Sloonei while I think

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:41 pm**

Agree with DDL on Wilgy.

So everyone's thoughts on TSP? He's an active voice not put of the core four and he hasn't seemed to have gotten much in the way of suspicion?

Sloonie, he's a tin foil bad read I can't really see the mafia reasoning for the CFD on creature, especially with how little time was left.

DDL, he's been a bit of a shrug read for me but reviewing yesterday he was the leading voice of the Nova/inactive mafia theory. The way I see it if DDL flips mafia his last teammate is semi active and the inactive players are all civ. If he's civ then I could see the inactive theory and potentially sloonie.

I need to look at LC he's been flying under my radar so far, but I haven't gotten my normal gut mafia read on him.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:41 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:38 pm Vote: Sloonei while I think

Why Sloonie over DDL?

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:42 pm**

[mention]DrWilgy[/mention]
Thoughts?

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:42 pm**

I've returned.

Sorry about being away, very hectic work week. I'm going to try to catch up this evening, but will mostly skim from this day onwards to gain an immediate frame of reference.

Interested in the sloonei wagon. What's the general premise here?

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:46 pm**

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:41 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:38 pm Vote: Sloonei while I think
Why Sloonie over DDL?

I don’t think DDL is scum, first off. The main reason to vote for him is because he’s a few steps down on some POE lists, which is weak in a game where scum is thriving on town apathy. I’d just as soon vote for Mac or Wilgy, players I “blah” read and are in the POE just as much as DDL.
Also I’m struggling to see a world where not one of Epi or Sloonei is scum and I think I’m leaning towards the latter.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:51 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:42 pm I've returned.

Sorry about being away, very hectic work week. I'm going to try to catch up this evening, but will mostly skim from this day onwards to gain an immediate frame of reference.

Interested in the sloonei wagon. What's the general premise here?

Sloonei should be dead here, given most of the previously thought likely scum combos. When he wasn’t dead today and Epi voted for him early, he seemed caught off guard and then pulled some self preservation tactics which I wasn’t a fan of. In general, while he has been by far the highest poster he hasn’t seemed particularly focused to any townish end. Counter arguments: Day 1 CFD and his status as the main game driver

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:09 pm**

A DDL lynch today?

Nah.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:10 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:42 pm I've returned.

Sorry about being away, very hectic work week. I'm going to try to catch up this evening, but will mostly skim from this day onwards to gain an immediate frame of reference.

Interested in the sloonei wagon. What's the general premise here?

I've done absolutely nothing and he keeps calling me good and made up some tell I apparently have.

Bullshit says I.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:16 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:12 pm Vote: Epi

Epi was integral to the Dom lynch and at least voted for Nova. The “Epi isn’t doing anything” narrative misses that Epi has had just as much direction as almost anyone else.

You're voting against me because you disagree with a fucking narrative?

Get lynched.

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:16 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:42 pm I've returned.

Sorry about being away, very hectic work week. I'm going to try to catch up this evening, but will mostly skim from this day onwards to gain an immediate frame of reference.

Interested in the sloonei wagon. What's the general premise here?

4 people left day 1 with very strong town cred after the Creature lynch. Dyslexicon, Quin, timmer and Sloonei.

Mafia killed the first three and let Sloonei live.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:19 pm**

Yeah.

What does that "narrative" even come from? Who is telling it? Are they bad?

If not then how this "narrative" incriminates Epi?

And I'm pretty sure people started attacking Epi before the nova lynch, anyway.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:20 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:21 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:35 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:12 pm Vote: Epi

Epi was integral to the Dom lynch and at least voted for Nova. The “Epi isn’t doing anything” narrative misses that Epi has had just as much direction as almost anyone else.
I hate this logic. Being in town lynches correlates very little with actually being scum.

That said, this fact is giving me pause about jumping on the Sloonei wagon, because it would be the third consecutive time I followed an Epi case. If Epi is bad he's playing me 3 times. But I'm itching to break Sloonei just to see what's inside.
The logic isn’t that Epi is bad because he’s part of the lynches, the argument is he’s bad because a narrative emerged that he wasn’t doing anything, when he has been.

"Epi is bad not because of what he is or isn't doing, but because a narrative emerged."

You must become a politician!

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:28 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:10 pm [VOTE: ddl] aubergine

If i’m going down I want to go down voting for my biggest lingering suspicion. His posts today look like he’s biding his time until someone else makes a decision for him.

I feel the same about your posts about me. It feels like you have been dancing around the idea of lynching me all game.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:31 pm**

I have a small thing I must take care of but I shall return.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:04 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:19 pm Yeah.

What does that "narrative" even come from? Who is telling it? Are they bad?

If not then how this "narrative" incriminates Epi?

And I'm pretty sure people started attacking Epi before the nova lynch, anyway.

Not coming from Epi:

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:05 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:48 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:45 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:43 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:59 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:32 pm what do you have on him DDL?
Nothing.

Epi usually gives me more.
I can only get on when I can get on. We are getting ready for exams and the end of the semester and that's the busiest two times of the year for me by far. There is also an earlier deadline in "All My Circuits," so that gets prioritized over this one.

I apologize for not being around, but this is the best I can do.
I try never to judge activity. But I judge behavior. You could be much more assertive with your low post count, yet you seen to be accepting a more passive playstyle and that bothers me.
I'm not bothered by a passive epi. If anything, it's one of the reasons I town read him.

I initially typed "I'm not bothered by ass".
Yes, I think it's civ-Epi enough to go low key until midgame, and then spring out with a big case to suddenly control a lynch.
I controlled the last lynch though.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:10 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:20 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:21 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:35 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:12 pm Vote: Epi

Epi was integral to the Dom lynch and at least voted for Nova. The “Epi isn’t doing anything” narrative misses that Epi has had just as much direction as almost anyone else.
I hate this logic. Being in town lynches correlates very little with actually being scum.

That said, this fact is giving me pause about jumping on the Sloonei wagon, because it would be the third consecutive time I followed an Epi case. If Epi is bad he's playing me 3 times. But I'm itching to break Sloonei just to see what's inside.
The logic isn’t that Epi is bad because he’s part of the lynches, the argument is he’s bad because a narrative emerged that he wasn’t doing anything, when he has been.
"Epi is bad not because of what he is or isn't doing, but because a narrative emerged."

You must become a politician!

I’ll take this as an endorsement

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:10 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:46 pm I’m at work and want to comment on things but I don’t have time.

Epi is my tinfoil suspect. I’m not uncomfortable with my vote on DDL at the moment.

A "tinfoil" suspect?

I should be a "regular" suspect.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:12 pm**

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:25 pm**

Yeah fuck it, let’s lynch epi

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:25 pm**

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

No lynch sucks but I need to save myself.

[mention]DrWilgy[/mention] your vote is the tiebreaker

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:27 pm**

I don't feel like voting Epi.

I also think Sloonei was calling epi civ based on a "tell"... yesterday? So wtf?

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:30 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:27 pm I don't feel like voting Epi.

I also think Sloonei was calling epi civ based on a "tell"... yesterday? So wtf?

Things changed

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:37 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:30 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:27 pm I don't feel like voting Epi.

I also think Sloonei was calling epi civ based on a "tell"... yesterday? So wtf?
Things changed

Your alignment didn't.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:39 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:30 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:27 pm I don't feel like voting Epi.

I also think Sloonei was calling epi civ based on a "tell"... yesterday? So wtf?
Things changed
Your alignment didn't.

Indeed

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:40 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:30 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:27 pm I don't feel like voting Epi.

I also think Sloonei was calling epi civ based on a "tell"... yesterday? So wtf?
Things changed
Your alignment didn't.
Indeed

This is so weird

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:41 pm**

Its like a bad screenplay

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:42 pm**

I’ll stress this point again: if I am mafia there is no way that I am picking off my “ninja turtle” companions one by one immediately after we’ve all been lumped together. That is the same as putting a big glowing “Lynch Me” sign on above my head. There is no reality in which I’d pursue that as a strategy.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:45 pm**

I steered into my lynch as scum in the Wire, but that was because I was already a popular suspect and I wanted to go out in a position that left my teammates in good standing.

I have been at the top of everybody’s town list since Day 1 of this game. I’m not going to flush that down the toilet for no reason.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:48 pm**

Epi is my preferred lynch because I do not believe that he believes the case against me. I will vote DDL to save myself if necessary. But Epi’s a better lynch and I encourage people to jump over to him.

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:48 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:42 pm I’ll stress this point again: if I am mafia there is no way that I am picking off my “ninja turtle” companions one by one immediately after we’ve all been lumped together. That is the same as putting a big glowing “Lynch Me” sign on above my head. There is no reality in which I’d pursue that as a strategy.

Counter point: you assume this no matter what, there’s no reason for you to come into suspicion just as the ninja turtles die, you don’t expect that outcome.
Furthermore, you lose endgames with the ninja turtles so you know you have to take them out and figure you’ll be fine if you don’t die fourth.
It’s actually weird that we didn’t wait another day for this conversation why are we having it now instead of either day 3 or day 5 this is weird

Posted: **Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:50 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:48 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:42 pm I’ll stress this point again: if I am mafia there is no way that I am picking off my “ninja turtle” companions one by one immediately after we’ve all been lumped together. That is the same as putting a big glowing “Lynch Me” sign on above my head. There is no reality in which I’d pursue that as a strategy.
Counter point: you assume this no matter what, there’s no reason for you to come into suspicion just as the ninja turtles die, you don’t expect that outcome.
Furthermore, you lose endgames with the ninja turtles so you know you have to take them out and figure you’ll be fine if you don’t die fourth.
It’s actually weird that we didn’t wait another day for this conversation why are we having it now instead of either day 3 or day 5 this is weird

Because I’m town as hell. Is there a case against me independent of “he’s still alive”?

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