The Syndicate

yo mikey c'mon man what are you thinking in terms of a lynch man I need you

you're strong town reading who I'm voting for and ik you're not convinced that I'm town but I believe in you

fuuuck I gotta go.

my vote will go to lc again. if you kill ted y'all I mean I just don't know

i just typed a sentence with two colons. I have no control over my colons.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:05 pm i just typed a sentence with two colons. I have no control over my colons.

I too have little control over my colon

toilet time is always fun

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:05 pm i just typed a sentence with two colons. I have no control over my colons.

Punctuation humour. You're my kind of guy.

[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

I have to go soon. Bed time for radishes.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
I am happy lynching here barring a role claim.

I like that post by Sloonei.

It's very convincing and makes me wanna vote. Idk if I should tho.

I have talked about leetic's early list of reads multiple times already, but I keep coming back to it and I like it even less each time.
Criticism 1 is that the list feels arbitrary. He singles out the top 6 posters in the thread at the time and gives some cursory thoughts about each of them. He has explained this to say that he was occupied by school things at the moment, but if that's the case, why post this at all? There was no urgent need for a list of reads right that minute, and if he needed to wait an hour to give us more comprehensive thoughts on these six players as well as the other six, I do not think anything would have been lost. This post looks like "busy work", the idea being that leetic was attempting to appear productive.

Criticism 2 is the reads themselves. They fit the bill for what I discussed in my last post. The negative reads are purely negative, and in many (all?) cases, it does not look like he has budged. This list was posted within the first 24 hours of the phase. I've highlighted the reads to reflect town/mafia stances. I'll now review his posts in the most recent 24 hours to see what development, if any, I can find on any of these players.

Favorable lean on ts account while maintaining suspicion of drago.
Anti-Drago, and more anti-Drago.

Oh, here's a bare comprehensive list of reads. How nice: It would indeed appear that ts account is the only read from those original 6 which has moved at all, and that does not surprise me much. I get the sense that these two have some history together, and leetic may be hesitant to push too aggressively against a known-civilian version of this player. I see little to no evidence of development in leetic's reads this game.

I have a slight town lean on Long Con. I would not want to lynch him, but in a vacuum I am not inclined to die on that hill. I do, however, think that leetic is a much better candidate right now.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:16 pm It's very convincing and makes me wanna vote. Idk if I should tho.

What are the pros and cons?

Honestly I think Mikey may be on to something with the Sloonei suspicion. I do feel like people are giving him way too much of a pass for being super active. While many of the posts look towny in isolation, his overall progression has most certainly not. He justified it as not really believing in most of the stuff he has posted, but I find it super convenient nonetheless. Consider how rapidly his tune has switched from calling me his biggest townread to becoming his biggest suspect. Such a drastic switch is not natural, especially considering that many of the posts he is using to case me (the reads list for example) existed during the time he said he townread me. My wagon was dying off, but Sloonei going on it breathed new life into it and quickly made me the favored lynch over LC and TH. Overall, I retract my townread of this slot.

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:31 pm Honestly I think Mikey may be on to something with the Sloonei suspicion. I do feel like people are giving him way too much of a pass for being super active. While many of the posts look towny in isolation, his overall progression has most certainly not. He justified it as not really believing in most of the stuff he has posted, but I find it super convenient nonetheless. Consider how rapidly his tune has switched from calling me his biggest townread to becoming his biggest suspect. Such a drastic switch is not natural, especially considering that many of the posts he is using to case me (the reads list for example) existed during the time he said he townread me. My wagon was dying off, but Sloonei going on it breathed new life into it and quickly made me the favored lynch over LC and TH. Overall, I retract my townread of this slot.

What is wrong with my progression?

Way too much omgus in this game.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:34 pm Way too much omgus in this game.

I'm more in OMGIS mode right now. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:39 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:34 pm Way too much omgus in this game.

I'm more in OMGIS mode right now. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:39 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:34 pm Way too much omgus in this game.

I'm more in OMGIS mode right now. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

If you are town then this means you believe you are the best lynch.

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:40 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:39 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:34 pm Way too much omgus in this game.

I'm more in OMGIS mode right now. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

If you are town then this means you believe you are the best lynch.

Guess so.

I really don't think leetic is bad here.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:39 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:34 pm Way too much omgus in this game.

I'm more in OMGIS mode right now. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I don't know what to think of this. I was going down anyway, if he's scum, he has no reason to intervene

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:39 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:34 pm Way too much omgus in this game.

I'm more in OMGIS mode right now. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Did you eat a bowl of radioactive cornflakes?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:42 pm I really don't think leetic is bad here.

why not?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:44 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:42 pm I really don't think leetic is bad here.

why not?

Well, you could read my posts.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:45 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:44 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:42 pm I really don't think leetic is bad here.

why not?

Well, you could read my posts.

Oh right, you made a big thing about it.
I'm in the "too generous" camp.

leetic is the only player currently receiving votes that I don't lean town on.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:47 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:45 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:44 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:42 pm I really don't think leetic is bad here.

why not?

Well, you could read my posts.

Oh right, you made a big thing about it.
I'm in the "too generous" camp.

Yeah, I read your posts.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:47 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:45 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:44 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:42 pm I really don't think leetic is bad here.

why not?

Well, you could read my posts.

Oh right, you made a big thing about it.
I'm in the "too generous" camp.

Yeah, I read your posts.

who should be lynched?

I think our long con is broken, maybe we can exchange it for a newer model

LC is either town or pulling off the most counterintuitive gambit I've seen.

[mention]Dragomir[/mention] whatcha doing?

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:52 pm LC is either town or pulling off the most counterintuitive gambit I've seen.

What's wrong with my progression?

This kind of defeatism always ends in a civilian lynch

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:53 pm This kind of defeatism always ends in a civilian lynch

i am having g-man flashbacks

except i was happy to let him get lynched that time.

There's still plenty of room on the ted wagon

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:55 pm There's still plenty of room on the ted wagon

pass

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:52 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:52 pm LC is either town or pulling off the most counterintuitive gambit I've seen.

What's wrong with my progression?

I already explained why your progression regarding me is bad. It also seems like you're subjecting certain people to far more scrutiny than others, it almost feels like you're giving Dragomir and ted a pass. You're acting as a leader but the place you're leading to is so convuluted that I cannot believe it is natural.

Disappointed no one went for the hammer.

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:52 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:52 pm LC is either town or pulling off the most counterintuitive gambit I've seen.

What's wrong with my progression?

I already explained why your progression regarding me is bad. It also seems like you're subjecting certain people to far more scrutiny than others, it almost feels like you're giving Dragomir and ted a pass. You're acting as a leader but the place you're leading to is so convuluted that I cannot believe it is natural.

You did not, you just said that it's bad because I started at Point A and ended up at Point B. Unfortunately we don't have time for you to go into any great detail. But this read accomplishes nothing. What does it mean that I am "leading to a convoluted place"? What you are seeing is my attempt to solve the game.

I am "giving Dragomir a pass" because I believe he is an obvious civilian. I have explained why at least three times. I believe ted is a civilian based on differences between his behavior this game and his behavior in a game in which we were scum partners a couple of weeks ago.

Well, good luck if you're town, leetic.

D1 has ended, flip coming shortly.

[mention]leetic[/mention] has been assassinated/countered to death!

They were:

Shao Jun

Light Sleeper—you don’t like to sleep at night, which makes it harder for anyone to catch you by surprise! If you’re targeted at night with a negative ability, there’s a 50% chance that it won’t work.

You are a Righteous Warrior and win when all the Heathenous Spies have been eliminated.

Night actions are due by April 3, 6pm EDT.

I’ll have a screencap of the poll in the OP when I get back to my laptop, it’ll be left up in the meantime since there’s no night poll.

[mention]Dragomir[/mention]
[mention]Epignosis[/mention]
[mention]Funnygurl555[/mention]
[mention]Long Con[/mention]
[mention]MacDougall[/mention]
[mention]Master Radishes[/mention]
[mention]Sloonei[/mention]
[mention]speedchuck[/mention]
[mention]tedxtr[/mention]
[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention]
[mention]ts account[/mention]
[mention]Turnip Head[/mention]

D1 poll added to OP. I'll leave it up until I start D2 for your convenience.

Apologies for the delay, D2 will start Soon (tm)

In the night, [mention]Dragomir[/mention] dies! He was:

Altair

Eagle Vision: Can see anyone that targets him and/or a player of his choice.

You are a Righteous Warrior and win when all the Heathenous Spies have been eliminated.

D2 will end at majority vote or by April 6, 7pm EDT. With 11 present, it takes 6 to hammer.

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]
[mention]Funnygurl555[/mention]
[mention]Long Con[/mention]
[mention]MacDougall[/mention]
[mention]Master Radishes[/mention]
[mention]Sloonei[/mention]
[mention]speedchuck[/mention]
[mention]tedxtr[/mention]
[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention]
[mention]ts account[/mention]
[mention]Turnip Head[/mention

So, I still do not like Long Con's behavior last EOD. I also do not like the leetic wagon very much; however... I believe speedchuck is likely to be mafia just due to the tendency for a single mafia to stay off lead wagons. Epignosis or Turnip Head could both be mafia as well for this reason, but I have liked Epignosis' play much less.

Long Con was the competing wagon to leetic. They ended up tied. Nobody sprang to save him. What does this mean? I can go either way on it.

I was about to ask Drago why he didn't vote. Butts. You done good, Drago.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:33 pm Long Con was the competing wagon to leetic. They ended up tied. Nobody sprang to save him. What does this mean? I can go either way on it.

What do you think it means?