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Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:34 pm
by NotAnAxehole
On re-read Belzy is a bit wolfy because all they did was respond to people rather than make any content, and they really felt the need to respond to EVERYTHING that even resembled a mention of them... Which I generally find more wolfy than towny, especially if posting is heavy as town you might scroll past something meh and never come back to it.

BoKnows enters the game declares they're town two seperate times, says for the sake of the game, gotta kill Alison, but never showed that they actually evaluated the game state. They claimed to have been drinking, and never came back to re-evaluate their position once sober?

So yeah, I really wouldn't mind killing this slot.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:35 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Lu Ren wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:32 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:29 pm
Lu Ren wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:27 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:26 pm
Lu Ren wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:25 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:24 pm
Lu Ren wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:23 pm if y'all actually kill alison i have no words

she was obviously town d1 and she's even more obviously town right now
If you've read, I'm not arguing that she's scum.
sure, so let's kill mafia instead
That requires you to not vote Dizzy
yes ok i've explicitly stated the pool of people i'd be fine killing in any thoughts on who you'd prefer?
TSP / BoKnows is our overlap.

I will vote for other people in that if all of my town reads join in, but like, for my reads personally I'd go there.
which are your other personal reads that don't overlap in order of strength?

what did you think of tsp's posting today?
I don't do lists, but I posted who I would kill if my town reads consolidated, who my town reads are, and who I would prefer killing. It's all in the ISO.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:36 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Also, I haven't spent 2 seconds thinking about TSP because TSP hasn't demanded that anyone pay him any attention, other than maybe in the form of a flash wagon to kill.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:37 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Part of why I called out all of my town reads a couple hours ago and asked about BoKnows is because I think town!Alison is almost certainly Scum!BoKnows

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:37 pm
by Dyslexicon
Alison wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:20 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:17 pm
Alison wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:14 pm Alright, I've finished catching up. Legacy is clear. If I die, someone who respects me should repost it SOD3 to remind people. See you.
I mean, I'm probably not considering your legacy in any way regardless of your alignment.
My legacy is directed at other players, not you. You are not a player I expect to sheep my legacy, because you are an egoistical player who has a low opinion of the other players in this game.
Asking myself if Alison says this as scum. If she's town, big sigh

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:38 pm
by NotAnAxehole
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:37 pm Part of why I called out all of my town reads a couple hours ago and asked about BoKnows is because I think town!Alison is almost certainly Scum!BoKnows
Inverse statement also true.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:38 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:37 pm
Alison wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:20 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:17 pm
Alison wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:14 pm Alright, I've finished catching up. Legacy is clear. If I die, someone who respects me should repost it SOD3 to remind people. See you.
I mean, I'm probably not considering your legacy in any way regardless of your alignment.
My legacy is directed at other players, not you. You are not a player I expect to sheep my legacy, because you are an egoistical player who has a low opinion of the other players in this game.
Asking myself if Alison says this as scum. If she's town, big sigh
I agree

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:41 pm
by NotAnAxehole
@Dyslexicon Join me?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:41 pm
by Dyslexicon
Lu Ren wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:23 pm if y'all actually kill alison i have no words

she was obviously town d1 and she's even more obviously town right now
Is this an emotional thing? I asked you before, and I don't know how to phrase the question I want to ask, but it would help a lot if you maybe could quote exactly where you think Alison is outside wolf range.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:42 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:41 pm
Lu Ren wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:23 pm if y'all actually kill alison i have no words

she was obviously town d1 and she's even more obviously town right now
Is this an emotional thing? I asked you before, and I don't know how to phrase the question I want to ask, but it would help a lot if you maybe could quote exactly where you think Alison is outside wolf range.
It's not about being inside/outside of wolf range. I think Alison should have died D1 and I think that would have been way better for town, but I can't help but think that killing Alison here is a mistake because I do think she's just a L0 towny that's tunneled.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:44 pm
by NotAnAxehole
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:42 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:41 pm
Lu Ren wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:23 pm if y'all actually kill alison i have no words

she was obviously town d1 and she's even more obviously town right now
Is this an emotional thing? I asked you before, and I don't know how to phrase the question I want to ask, but it would help a lot if you maybe could quote exactly where you think Alison is outside wolf range.
It's not about being inside/outside of wolf range. I think Alison should have died D1 and I think that would have been way better for town, but I can't help but think that killing Alison here is a mistake because I do think she's just a L0 towny that's tunneled.
And I agree we should kill the wolfiest person who the most towny players can agree on

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:44 pm
by Dyslexicon
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:41 pm @Dyslexicon Join me?
No. I really think Belzy is town. I have more experience with her than most of you.
I'd like to consolidate, but not there.

If not Alison (and especially if Alison is actually town) I'd be up for Nanook, Ender or TSP, off the top of my head.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:46 pm
by Dyslexicon
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:42 pmIt's not about being inside/outside of wolf range. I think Alison should have died D1 and I think that would have been way better for town, but I can't help but think that killing Alison here is a mistake because I do think she's just a L0 towny that's tunneled.
I've never seen Alison have such a bad tunnel as town. I mean, I haven't seen all her town games, but I haven't seen and don't really expect that.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:47 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:44 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:41 pm @Dyslexicon Join me?
No. I really think Belzy is town. I have more experience with her than most of you.
I'd like to consolidate, but not there.

If not Alison (and especially if Alison is actually town) I'd be up for Nanook, Ender or TSP, off the top of my head.
I'm mostly just taking opinions from people who are in my lock town circle. I usually think it's sub optimal to do this by committee by the way, but the fact is, having Lu Ren, Mac, Falcon, Luckbox all voting off on their own is losing. So those are primarily the votes I'm trying to consolidate.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:48 pm
by NotAnAxehole
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:47 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:44 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:41 pm @Dyslexicon Join me?
No. I really think Belzy is town. I have more experience with her than most of you.
I'd like to consolidate, but not there.

If not Alison (and especially if Alison is actually town) I'd be up for Nanook, Ender or TSP, off the top of my head.
I'm mostly just taking opinions from people who are in my lock town circle. I usually think it's sub optimal to do this by committee by the way, but the fact is, having Lu Ren, Mac, Falcon, Luckbox all voting off on their own is losing. So those are primarily the votes I'm trying to consolidate.
I'm used to townies just sheeping me, so I tend to be far less diplomatic most of the time.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:48 pm
by NotAnAxehole
@Luckbox Inc @MacDougall @Lu Ren @falcon45ca

What say you?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:51 pm
by falcon45ca
Luckbox Inc wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:01 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:57 pm Let's just not do the Alison/Dizzy stuff today. Let them battle it out another day.

Fingers/TSP or some other suggestions please.
What do you feel town will learn by letting them battle another day?
I feel like I'm one of the few players you've actually tried to engage with btw. You've asked me a number of questions as if you're trying to probe me but it seems wolfy.
If you say so. I don't think that's true, but I'm not gonna tell you how to feel

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:53 pm
by falcon45ca
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:48 pm @Luckbox Inc @MacDougall @Lu Ren @falcon45ca

What say you?
About what?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:53 pm
by NotAnAxehole
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:53 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:48 pm @Luckbox Inc @MacDougall @Lu Ren @falcon45ca

What say you?
About what?
Voting together.

Specifically on BoKnows, but also potentially on someone else.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:53 pm
by falcon45ca
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:43 pm I would vote BoKnows today actually, I think that's a good target

@MacDougall @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @falcon45ca @Luckbox Inc @Seanzie @Dyslexicon @Alison @Lu Ren

You are the players I would expect to vote there.
BK hasn't done anything scummy IMO, feels like a shot in the dark at this stage of the game

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:55 pm
by falcon45ca
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:53 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:53 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:48 pm @Luckbox Inc @MacDougall @Lu Ren @falcon45ca

What say you?
About what?
Voting together.

Specifically on BoKnows, but also potentially on someone else.
Yeah I'm fine with that. I'm not full on TSP, but his reaction to my vote was less than desirable IMO


BK feels like a good vig target, but I don't want to lynch there yet

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:58 pm
by NotAnAxehole
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:55 pm BK feels like a good vig target
Mountainous.

The advantage of BK is that there is an associative with Alison.

The advantage of TSP is that we get to be in a game without TSP.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:59 pm
by Lu Ren
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:41 pm
Lu Ren wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:23 pm if y'all actually kill alison i have no words

she was obviously town d1 and she's even more obviously town right now
Is this an emotional thing? I asked you before, and I don't know how to phrase the question I want to ask, but it would help a lot if you maybe could quote exactly where you think Alison is outside wolf range.
huh? no it's

it's from how doo was posting and like the vibes she was putting into thread and then how alison came in and sorta stabbed them with a pitchfork and then was like hey you're a wolf for these 5 reasons and then doo was like what huh no what and then alison was like and here are fifteen more

and that's how it felt and i don't think alison's a wolf sorry

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:01 pm
by Lu Ren
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:53 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:43 pm I would vote BoKnows today actually, I think that's a good target

@MacDougall @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @falcon45ca @Luckbox Inc @Seanzie @Dyslexicon @Alison @Lu Ren

You are the players I would expect to vote there.
BK hasn't done anything scummy IMO, feels like a shot in the dark at this stage of the game
i kinda liked belzy's d1 but i think bo's today has been pretty terrible particularly wrt their handling of the alison slot and i feel like there's a solid chance mafia are just being like oh! but everyone said belzy made good posts d1! let's ignore bo and use that as a reason to keep v-reading our partner

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:02 pm
by Lu Ren
anyway i voted bo

would infinitely prefer to alison

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:03 pm
by Luckbox Inc
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:34 pm On re-read Belzy is a bit wolfy because all they did was respond to people rather than make any content, and they really felt the need to respond to EVERYTHING that even resembled a mention of them... Which I generally find more wolfy than towny, especially if posting is heavy as town you might scroll past something meh and never come back to it.

BoKnows enters the game declares they're town two seperate times, says for the sake of the game, gotta kill Alison, but never showed that they actually evaluated the game state. They claimed to have been drinking, and never came back to re-evaluate their position once sober?

So yeah, I really wouldn't mind killing this slot.
I had Belzy as villagery but I'm fine with it too

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:07 pm
by Luckbox Inc
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:51 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:01 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:57 pm Let's just not do the Alison/Dizzy stuff today. Let them battle it out another day.

Fingers/TSP or some other suggestions please.
What do you feel town will learn by letting them battle another day?
I feel like I'm one of the few players you've actually tried to engage with btw. You've asked me a number of questions as if you're trying to probe me but it seems wolfy.
If you say so. I don't think that's true, but I'm not gonna tell you how to feel
17.7% (8/45) of your posts are quoting me.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:11 pm
by Dyslexicon
I’m trying to find a more recent Alison scum game that is not Bluey. If anyone knows?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:11 pm
by Dyslexicon
I don’t support the Bo/Belzy wagon

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:48 pm
by falcon45ca
Luckbox Inc wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:07 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:51 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:01 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:57 pm Let's just not do the Alison/Dizzy stuff today. Let them battle it out another day.

Fingers/TSP or some other suggestions please.
What do you feel town will learn by letting them battle another day?
I feel like I'm one of the few players you've actually tried to engage with btw. You've asked me a number of questions as if you're trying to probe me but it seems wolfy.
If you say so. I don't think that's true, but I'm not gonna tell you how to feel
17.7% (8/45) of your posts are quoting me.
Your obsession with me, while flattering, is unrequited.


So this is how David Letterman felt

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:02 pm
by Dyslexicon
If not Alison, I'd rather Nanook or TPS than Belzy.

Her early play doesn't fit her scum style, it's too jokey and taunting, and I don't think she'd deliberately go for that style on a newer site as scum. Like, it's not really how Belzy talks.

Also, I'm actually doubting more and more on my Alison read, plus finding a way to consolidate it.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:07 pm
by Dyslexicon
Biggest wagon is 3 votes and it's quiet, that is not giving me confidence. Doesn't day end in like 1 hour?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:15 pm
by Luckbox Inc
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:48 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:07 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:51 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:01 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:57 pm Let's just not do the Alison/Dizzy stuff today. Let them battle it out another day.

Fingers/TSP or some other suggestions please.
What do you feel town will learn by letting them battle another day?
I feel like I'm one of the few players you've actually tried to engage with btw. You've asked me a number of questions as if you're trying to probe me but it seems wolfy.
If you say so. I don't think that's true, but I'm not gonna tell you how to feel
17.7% (8/45) of your posts are quoting me.
Your obsession with me, while flattering, is unrequited.


So this is how David Letterman felt
well this has got to be projection.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:17 pm
by falcon45ca
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:02 pm If not Alison, I'd rather Nanook or TPS than Belzy.

Her early play doesn't fit her scum style, it's too jokey and taunting, and I don't think she'd deliberately go for that style on a newer site as scum. Like, it's not really how Belzy talks.

Also, I'm actually doubting more and more on my Alison read, plus finding a way to consolidate it.
TSP over Nook IMO

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:18 pm
by falcon45ca
Although a CFD on Ender gets me titilated for some reason

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:18 pm
by Luckbox Inc
TSP is a good wolf right?

Is this sort of low-content play within his meta?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:19 pm
by Seanzie
I agree that we really need to consolidate. Having a 3 person wagon being top right now is bad.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:20 pm
by Dyslexicon
Luckbox Inc wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:18 pm TSP is a good wolf right?

Is this sort of low-content play within his meta?
I've seen him wolf one time. He was much more active then. I think I've seen him somewhat aloof as 3p. Kind of think this low effort style is more about time than alignment. But voting him definitely feels like a crap shoot.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:20 pm
by Seanzie
Luckbox Inc wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:18 pm TSP is a good wolf right?

Is this sort of low-content play within his meta?
TSP sometimes plays super high posting sometimes super low posting. This is on the lower side. I'm not sure how to read into it in an AI way though.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:20 pm
by Dyslexicon
I just want to flip a wolf, and my confidence on Alison is knocked after her post to Axe. Maybe stupid.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:22 pm
by Seanzie
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:20 pm I just want to flip a wolf, and my confidence on Alison is knocked after her post to Axe. Maybe stupid.
Is your confidence knocked on Alison because of her post, or because of the fact that if she flips town, you're likely going to die tomorrow?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:22 pm
by Dyslexicon
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:20 pm I just want to flip a wolf, and my confidence on Alison is knocked after her post to Axe. Maybe stupid.
I'd still want Alison over Belzy though, for sure

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:22 pm
by Dyslexicon
Seanzie wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:22 pmIs your confidence knocked on Alison because of her post, or because of the fact that if she flips town, you're likely going to die tomorrow?
What did I say?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:23 pm
by Seanzie
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:22 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:22 pmIs your confidence knocked on Alison because of her post, or because of the fact that if she flips town, you're likely going to die tomorrow?
What did I say?
I know what you said. You have no worries about tomorrow though?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:24 pm
by Seanzie
I feel like Mac has not gotten the attention he deserves.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:25 pm
by Dyslexicon
Seanzie wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:23 pmI know what you said. You have no worries about tomorrow though?
I don't know where you imagine this line of questioning going. I have worries if we don't hit scum. If you all want to chop me tomorrow or to day for that matter, that's everyone who's town's responsibility.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:30 pm
by Seanzie
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:25 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:23 pmI know what you said. You have no worries about tomorrow though?
I don't know where you imagine this line of questioning going. I have worries if we don't hit scum. If you all want to chop me tomorrow or to day for that matter, that's everyone who's town's responsibility.
Just trying to get a sense as to where your head is at.

If you were rethinking Alison as possible town, you should be worried about her legacy if you're town.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:32 pm
by Seanzie
Is the thread seriously dead for EoD again?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:33 pm
by Dyslexicon
Seanzie wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:30 pmJust trying to get a sense as to where your head is at.

If you were rethinking Alison as possible town, you should be worried about her legacy if you're town.
Worried how? Her read on me is a stupid ass tunnel and she's been dismissing me at every point. That is what I think if Alison is town.

What is your thought on the Belzy/Bo wagon btw?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:35 pm
by falcon45ca
Seanzie wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:32 pm Is the thread seriously dead for EoD again?
See, why ya gotta go and make wolfy posts like this?