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don't lose hope little buster
Perhaps saying set up a sus was incorrect on how to voice how I felt, but more so forcibly leaving my option open with somewhat lukewarm responses to me.
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:13 pmThis just feels like cotton candy.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:08 pmI have read this page and skimmed the page prior. Porscha appears to be thinking and you appear to be tonally matching your town game. Everyone else is still pretty NAI.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:02 pmLove to hear a hot take from you (with explanation)DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:01 pmPorscha is also town. Sweet.Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:38 pmIt isnt the only part of my argument at all. The situation isn't identical, is my argument. Rondo and syn were the only real pushers on lucy day 1 and day 2 last time. This time the entire threadstate barring rondo wilgy and I guess kate, are SR'ing her.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:34 pmso you're arguing that since this time lucy gave up for real and left she's town now?Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:27 pm Lol, are you serious? That is not at all how I recall day of hedgehog going.
If rondo wasnt a broken record about lucy she wouldnt have had that issue in the first place, and like you pointed out earlier, she only had 3 votes and the threadstate was not that hard against her;
Who else really besides rondo and syn were pushing lucy? Rondo was right in that she was probably doing some kind of reaction to being caught early, but you'll notice she never actually gave up because she was aware that nobody was really believing in rondo. She really kinda pulled herself up by her bootstraps tbh
i suppose it's not impossible, but this gameplay is so unfun and unreasonable. it's not fun to play like that, not fun to try to read it either
You postured option 3) shes a wolf getting sr'd by a lot of townies.
How likely do you believe this option to be than the other 2 I put forward? I think on day 1 when you are working with someone who is a capable wolf, it is unlikely they are caught like this without straight up slipping or getting unluckily mech'd on a n0. There was no slip or n0. I believe that while option 3 is always *possible*, is it the *least likely* of the options. Even if you really truly believe lucy is wolfing, I believe you would think my option 1 is more likely than option 3. Option 3 is lazy.
It seems that Lucy has accrued alot of thread tension. IDK how to read it, but if it's legitimately a copy of what happened in Hedgehog as explained by Tutuu, I would like to know what the thread thinks to do with this to generate data. The game loss in hedgehog was not from the fact that we didn't yeet Lucy, BUT more so we didn't resolve the tension created by Lucy thus negating the amount of data town had to work with.
None of this is stuff that literally wasn't said already in thread. Where's original Wilgz thots I know and love?
I don't think it's disingenuous to note that instead of poking and prodding my takes that you thought were empty, you just called them meh and moved on. I don't think that's actually wanting to solve me.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:01 pm... You can read wilgz.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:50 pmI have read two pages and do not have the data.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:13 pmThis just feels like cotton candy.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:08 pmI have read this page and skimmed the page prior. Porscha appears to be thinking and you appear to be tonally matching your town game. Everyone else is still pretty NAI.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:02 pmLove to hear a hot take from you (with explanation)DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:01 pmPorscha is also town. Sweet.Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:38 pm
It isnt the only part of my argument at all. The situation isn't identical, is my argument. Rondo and syn were the only real pushers on lucy day 1 and day 2 last time. This time the entire threadstate barring rondo wilgy and I guess kate, are SR'ing her.
You postured option 3) shes a wolf getting sr'd by a lot of townies.
How likely do you believe this option to be than the other 2 I put forward? I think on day 1 when you are working with someone who is a capable wolf, it is unlikely they are caught like this without straight up slipping or getting unluckily mech'd on a n0. There was no slip or n0. I believe that while option 3 is always *possible*, is it the *least likely* of the options. Even if you really truly believe lucy is wolfing, I believe you would think my option 1 is more likely than option 3. Option 3 is lazy.
It seems that Lucy has accrued alot of thread tension. IDK how to read it, but if it's legitimately a copy of what happened in Hedgehog as explained by Tutuu, I would like to know what the thread thinks to do with this to generate data. The game loss in hedgehog was not from the fact that we didn't yeet Lucy, BUT more so we didn't resolve the tension created by Lucy thus negating the amount of data town had to work with.
None of this is stuff that literally wasn't said already in thread. Where's original Wilgz thots I know and love?
Perhaps fill me in?
You aren't impressing me. You are too busy trying to cozy up to people and not actually solving. Do something
Because my focus was on lucy and your stuff was fine for D1. You are the one that asked for space and time to read the thread.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:52 pmPerhaps saying set up a sus was incorrect on how to voice how I felt, but more so forcibly leaving my option open with somewhat lukewarm responses to me.
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:13 pmThis just feels like cotton candy.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:08 pmI have read this page and skimmed the page prior. Porscha appears to be thinking and you appear to be tonally matching your town game. Everyone else is still pretty NAI.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:02 pmLove to hear a hot take from you (with explanation)DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:01 pmPorscha is also town. Sweet.Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:38 pmIt isnt the only part of my argument at all. The situation isn't identical, is my argument. Rondo and syn were the only real pushers on lucy day 1 and day 2 last time. This time the entire threadstate barring rondo wilgy and I guess kate, are SR'ing her.
You postured option 3) shes a wolf getting sr'd by a lot of townies.
How likely do you believe this option to be than the other 2 I put forward? I think on day 1 when you are working with someone who is a capable wolf, it is unlikely they are caught like this without straight up slipping or getting unluckily mech'd on a n0. There was no slip or n0. I believe that while option 3 is always *possible*, is it the *least likely* of the options. Even if you really truly believe lucy is wolfing, I believe you would think my option 1 is more likely than option 3. Option 3 is lazy.
It seems that Lucy has accrued alot of thread tension. IDK how to read it, but if it's legitimately a copy of what happened in Hedgehog as explained by Tutuu, I would like to know what the thread thinks to do with this to generate data. The game loss in hedgehog was not from the fact that we didn't yeet Lucy, BUT more so we didn't resolve the tension created by Lucy thus negating the amount of data town had to work with.
None of this is stuff that literally wasn't said already in thread. Where's original Wilgz thots I know and love?I don't think it's disingenuous to note that instead of poking and prodding my takes that you thought were empty, you just called them meh and moved on. I don't think that's actually wanting to solve me.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:01 pm... You can read wilgz.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:50 pmI have read two pages and do not have the data.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:13 pmThis just feels like cotton candy.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:08 pmI have read this page and skimmed the page prior. Porscha appears to be thinking and you appear to be tonally matching your town game. Everyone else is still pretty NAI.
It seems that Lucy has accrued alot of thread tension. IDK how to read it, but if it's legitimately a copy of what happened in Hedgehog as explained by Tutuu, I would like to know what the thread thinks to do with this to generate data. The game loss in hedgehog was not from the fact that we didn't yeet Lucy, BUT more so we didn't resolve the tension created by Lucy thus negating the amount of data town had to work with.
None of this is stuff that literally wasn't said already in thread. Where's original Wilgz thots I know and love?
Perhaps fill me in?
You aren't impressing me. You are too busy trying to cozy up to people and not actually solving. Do something
bet
You, falcon, and a wee bit of Nook ( I'm going to poke seanzie later to help me with Nook)tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:59 pmbet
im curious if u have any scumreads beside me
i anticipated that rondo would be your scumread - you mentioned that you changed your mind on him overnight though - but asking u about ur read on a dead person probably doesnt matter regardless of ur alignment
so yeah, curious if u sus anyone else alongside me
real life can be 10 times more scary and demoralizing
it does yeah since i didnt know your world view at allSabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:04 pmYou, falcon, and a wee bit of Nook ( I'm going to poke seanzie later to help me with Nook)tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:59 pmbet
im curious if u have any scumreads beside me
i anticipated that rondo would be your scumread - you mentioned that you changed your mind on him overnight though - but asking u about ur read on a dead person probably doesnt matter regardless of ur alignment
so yeah, curious if u sus anyone else alongside me
I have a good amount of town folks I have 100% belief are never scum :
WWA
Porscha
Seanzie
Dennis
Town but I'm scared of them:
Lily
Some towny nulls but I am staring at them hard:
Pyxxy
Neon
Wilgz
Does that help you with my world view atm?
Aye, but I also asked for help getting my feet into the thread. I still feel half lost honestly.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:55 pmBecause my focus was on lucy and your stuff was fine for D1. You are the one that asked for space and time to read the thread.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:52 pmPerhaps saying set up a sus was incorrect on how to voice how I felt, but more so forcibly leaving my option open with somewhat lukewarm responses to me.
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:13 pmThis just feels like cotton candy.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:08 pmI have read this page and skimmed the page prior. Porscha appears to be thinking and you appear to be tonally matching your town game. Everyone else is still pretty NAI.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:02 pmLove to hear a hot take from you (with explanation)DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:01 pmPorscha is also town. Sweet.Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:38 pm
It isnt the only part of my argument at all. The situation isn't identical, is my argument. Rondo and syn were the only real pushers on lucy day 1 and day 2 last time. This time the entire threadstate barring rondo wilgy and I guess kate, are SR'ing her.
You postured option 3) shes a wolf getting sr'd by a lot of townies.
How likely do you believe this option to be than the other 2 I put forward? I think on day 1 when you are working with someone who is a capable wolf, it is unlikely they are caught like this without straight up slipping or getting unluckily mech'd on a n0. There was no slip or n0. I believe that while option 3 is always *possible*, is it the *least likely* of the options. Even if you really truly believe lucy is wolfing, I believe you would think my option 1 is more likely than option 3. Option 3 is lazy.
It seems that Lucy has accrued alot of thread tension. IDK how to read it, but if it's legitimately a copy of what happened in Hedgehog as explained by Tutuu, I would like to know what the thread thinks to do with this to generate data. The game loss in hedgehog was not from the fact that we didn't yeet Lucy, BUT more so we didn't resolve the tension created by Lucy thus negating the amount of data town had to work with.
None of this is stuff that literally wasn't said already in thread. Where's original Wilgz thots I know and love?I don't think it's disingenuous to note that instead of poking and prodding my takes that you thought were empty, you just called them meh and moved on. I don't think that's actually wanting to solve me.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:01 pm... You can read wilgz.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:50 pmI have read two pages and do not have the data.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:13 pmThis just feels like cotton candy.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:08 pmI have read this page and skimmed the page prior. Porscha appears to be thinking and you appear to be tonally matching your town game. Everyone else is still pretty NAI.
It seems that Lucy has accrued alot of thread tension. IDK how to read it, but if it's legitimately a copy of what happened in Hedgehog as explained by Tutuu, I would like to know what the thread thinks to do with this to generate data. The game loss in hedgehog was not from the fact that we didn't yeet Lucy, BUT more so we didn't resolve the tension created by Lucy thus negating the amount of data town had to work with.
None of this is stuff that literally wasn't said already in thread. Where's original Wilgz thots I know and love?
Perhaps fill me in?
You aren't impressing me. You are too busy trying to cozy up to people and not actually solving. Do something
I gave you that. I even gave you an olive branch.
What scum motivation I have to push you in back burner when I know I would die early this game because it needs to happen for game state reasons? You don't think I would be pushing you instead?
feel free to make that read, i just wanna point out that i'm not the one self voting and doing all those things, neither yesterday nor today (re: theater)
I don't think that I'm at the point where I'm conf biased at this stage, I needed to understand why I may have this guy take and I think I've accomplished that at least now.
This is true but you also feel like the one who was taking the most wolfy approach of the situation we were put in yesterday.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:13 pmfeel free to make that read, i just wanna point out that i'm not the one self voting and doing all those things, neither yesterday nor today (re: theater)
today i've been extremely reasonable and calm
and yesterday i just went a bit ham coz idk that's how i usually am, it's funny to me, its entertaining
but im dialing it back now because ... that's what i need to do! no more goofing around!
please dont (feel awful)
Tutuu you are always a pleasure to play with btw. Ty.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:21 pmplease dont (feel awful)
this is a sign that mafia games are toxic
mafia is a game. games are supposed to be fun
if you are in a situation where you'd feel awful in a game - something went wrong
dont ever feel awful for misreading me or mischopping me or scumreading me or pressuring me or anything
that's the game we're playing, that's what we do
if u are afraid of some kind of a reaction or a clapback from the person ur wrongly scumreading - thats their fault for being toxic. it's got nothing to do with u
please, dont ever let people make you feel bad for scumreading them in a game
and have fun
it's all in isolation
OK so why I ask for Nook and falcon:DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:14 pmI don't think that I'm at the point where I'm conf biased at this stage, I needed to understand why I may have this guy take and I think I've accomplished that at least now.
I think it's also not a matter of pushing me vs giving me room, it was how you interacted with me. You gave me room yes, but we're in a negative stance. You asked for my opinions on the low posters specifically and I don't know why. You've also not actually interfaced with the reads I have made implying that I'm just copying someone else. I want to know why you think these things, not that you think them.
I hope that makes sense. I don't mean to make you feel damned if you do damned if you don't because I totally get how that could hurt wim.
Thanks...I can't do that right now but thank you for this so much... it means a lot to hear someone say this.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:21 pmplease dont (feel awful)
this is a sign that mafia games are toxic
mafia is a game. games are supposed to be fun
if you are in a situation where you'd feel awful in a game - something went wrong
dont ever feel awful for misreading me or mischopping me or scumreading me or pressuring me or anything
that's the game we're playing, that's what we do
if u are afraid of some kind of a reaction or a clapback from the person ur wrongly scumreading - thats their fault for being toxic. it's got nothing to do with u
please, dont ever let people make you feel bad for scumreading them in a game
and have fun
I won't get upset as long as you don't like yell at me. I'm not a porcelain doll I just want to play the game...
Your like literally one of the best friends I've ever made playing this game sabi...I want to keep playing the game with you and not have you avoid me in it.
Thoughts on the read list I gave tutuu.Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:40 pmYour like literally one of the best friends I've ever made playing this game sabi...I want to keep playing the game with you and not have you avoid me in it.
If I'm wrong I want to find you.
nothing funnier than reading lucy's sr on tutuu is wrong but lucy's sr on sabi is right cuz lucy has good reads. just not on tutuu apparentlytutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:31 pmhm
i could have sworn u did
but i searched for pyxxy in ur iso and i dont see it
i saw a post that u were shading porscha accusing her that she wants to mischop pyxxy next
but u didnt express a confident townread on pyxxy no
huh
"Why did you neglect lucy screaming you were scum in your sheeping thing and only pointing to me?"
as for this - well, why wouldnt i neglect it? its a wrong read. i know im town
but she scumread u before she had a breakdown. lucy tends to have good reads, so im willing to sheep that one
Actually I think the scumteam thought the same that I did, that Rondo fake cc'd me by saying he lied about being in the protect setup because he was the other town PR which would be a roleblockerNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:15 pm Like not 100% obviously but it looks like a doc dodge and most teams just kill wwa in the 6 setup right
Idk, I think Sabi is town, not really sure why but I've thought that since some point yesterday in the middle of the day
This point I agree with, that's the first thought I had after the thought that Rondo was killed in a PR hunt.
And then other scumreads on Rondo followed, and I got the usual "I don't see why you think it's unreasonable to scumread rondo" from someone but I don't remember who other than that it wasn't one of the others who had postcapped by then. Like, aro clearing Rondo and Nook was one of the reasons I was reluctant to vote him, even though I kind of grilled him over scumreading the lowposters, and also knew that he was going to have to flip sooner or later to resolve the Lucy debate from earlier in the day. Because I thought he and I were on the same page as to why Rondo and Nook weren't scummy for their interactions with me. (idk if he also thought Rondo was a PR or PR covering, but he must've at least agreed that Rondo was legitimately trying to smoke me out in good faith)WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:55 amThis point I agree with, that's the first thought I had after the thought that Rondo was killed in a PR hunt.
I think pyxxy started out getting sussed for talking about mech at the start of the game and then idk what happened later. I pushed him directly for tagging you and asking for a second opinion on thinking Rondo was scum out of that interaction between Rondo/Nook/me where I openly claimed PR.