The Syndicate

DharmaHelper wrote:

Made wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:So Tony voted for the Harbor.

Also, he probably didn't. That sounds WAYYY too obivous...then again, that does sound like something i'd try to pull...

Everyone who voted for the harbor option was blocked. Tony did not kill, therefore Tony was blocked. Tony was blocked, therefore Tony voted for the Harbor.

How do you know that bae?

NJ, vote so i can get this party started yo.

Coupla things:

1) Voting for Made. Not rehashing why. I hate that I keep being near the tail end of the votes, but hey, such is life and no time at work to make a decent response earlier in the day. Alas.
2) FYI, Made (and some others), I'm a lady Blooper/Squid, good sir I find the gender mix-ups rather amusing in this game, but I totally understand the confusion.
3) Don't mistake my quietness for lack of interest I'm rather quiet in any game I play, but I thoroughly enjoy mafia and have always been more of a listener/reader than a talker (here and in real life).

@Made - LOL here it is

Made wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Made wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:So Tony voted for the Harbor.

Also, he probably didn't. That sounds WAYYY too obivous...then again, that does sound like something i'd try to pull...

Everyone who voted for the harbor option was blocked. Tony did not kill, therefore Tony was blocked. Tony was blocked, therefore Tony voted for the Harbor.

How do you know that bae?

Because MR said so.

nijuukyugou wrote:Coupla things:

1) Voting for Made. Not rehashing why. I hate that I keep being near the tail end of the votes, but hey, such is life and no time at work to make a decent response earlier in the day. Alas.
2) FYI, Made (and some others), I'm a lady Blooper/Squid, good sir I find the gender mix-ups rather amusing in this game, but I totally understand the confusion.
3) Don't mistake my quietness for lack of interest I'm rather quiet in any game I play, but I thoroughly enjoy mafia and have always been more of a listener/reader than a talker (here and in real life).

@Made - LOL here it is

Sorry dude, Genders are weird yo. Early game I got a lot of bending, it was pretty great. Late game people just kinda agreed i was a guy but i never specifically said it

in retrospect, the rapping probably gave it away...

DharmaHelper wrote:

Made wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Made wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:So Tony voted for the Harbor.

Also, he probably didn't. That sounds WAYYY too obivous...then again, that does sound like something i'd try to pull...

Everyone who voted for the harbor option was blocked. Tony did not kill, therefore Tony was blocked. Tony was blocked, therefore Tony voted for the Harbor.

How do you know that bae?

Because MR said so.

I'm assuming you mean in a pm, because we just know some people were detained, no clue who exactly. Given only detaining the harbot voters makes sense, but I wouldn't of extrapilated that from the post.

The post is about how the attempt to throw the bodies in the harbor failed and how the cops came and detained people for that. Then MR says "some" people were blocked for being detained.

Not exactly a deductive leap.

Bullzeye wrote:It's mostly based on his reaction to my curse and the fact he's the only (non-forced) person who voted for me. I feel like Virtue had tried to set me up for a lynch with the Dana thing and it just didn't work out. So by that logic Made has to be Virtue. He also didn't originally vote for me because of any suspicion he held but then claimed I'd 'lessened' his suspicion. Which just doesn't make sense.

Oh, right. Nevermind, that makes more sense, he's more likely Virtue then. Here's hoping!

DharmaHelper wrote:The post is about how the attempt to throw the bodies in the harbor failed and how the cops came and detained people for that. Then MR says "some" people were blocked for being detained.

Not exactly a deductive leap.

Well, assuming this is a completely logical assumption to make (and I agree it is), and knowing I'm not Tony, that would leave... Bullz or Dana?

Weird.

That's why I was thinking Made to be Tony, but Bullz makes good points about him being Virtue.

Can someone confirm the Harbor voters? I know I was one but other than that I'm not sure. I can look it up later when I'm not multitasking though if no one else gets around to it.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Can someone confirm the Harbor voters? I know I was one but other than that I'm not sure. I can look it up later when I'm not multitasking though if no one else gets around to it.

DH voted Harbour. He initially voted something else but a glance through his post history shows he changed to harbour at the last minute.

DharmaHelper wrote:The post is about how the attempt to throw the bodies in the harbor failed and how the cops came and detained people for that. Then MR says "some" people were blocked for being detained.

Not exactly a deductive leap.

All the cops would know is bodies were thrown, no clue who threw them, so they'd arrest them all. by that logic, anyone could of lost there powers, or everyone. your solution makes more sense though.

Bullzeye wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Can someone confirm the Harbor voters? I know I was one but other than that I'm not sure. I can look it up later when I'm not multitasking though if no one else gets around to it.

DH voted Harbour. He initially voted something else but a glance through his post history shows he changed to harbour at the last minute.

I changed back.

My solution makes sense when you consider anyone can still be voted on, not just harbor voters.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Can someone confirm the Harbor voters? I know I was one but other than that I'm not sure. I can look it up later when I'm not multitasking though if no one else gets around to it.

DH voted Harbour. He initially voted something else but a glance through his post history shows he changed to harbour at the last minute.

I changed back.

Really? You never mentioned it so that's completely unverifiable unless someone has a screenshot of the results or something.

I swear, if someone saves me, i'm going to cry.

Bullzeye wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Can someone confirm the Harbor voters? I know I was one but other than that I'm not sure. I can look it up later when I'm not multitasking though if no one else gets around to it.

DH voted Harbour. He initially voted something else but a glance through his post history shows he changed to harbour at the last minute.

I changed back.

Really? You never mentioned it so that's completely unverifiable unless someone has a screenshot of the results or something.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Can someone confirm the Harbor voters? I know I was one but other than that I'm not sure. I can look it up later when I'm not multitasking though if no one else gets around to it.

DH voted Harbour. He initially voted something else but a glance through his post history shows he changed to harbour at the last minute.

I changed back.

Really? You never mentioned it so that's completely unverifiable unless someone has a screenshot of the results or something.

You'll have to take my word for it.

It's times like this I wish I had a completely accurate spreadsheet for this game.

While I don't see the benefit typically in lying about something like that, it would be in DH's best interest if he were Tony to obviously keep himself off the Harbor list. I don't really think that's true, but I just find it odd that only leaves Bullz or Dana as possible Tony, assuming this theory about Harbor voters being blocked is correct.

It also doesn't seem that Blooper's vote was stated in the thread, so I'm not totally sure on that one either, although inclined to take DH's word for it.

Could it be possible that Tony voted cement and didn't kill on purpose to throw us off?

Dana wrote:Could it be possible that Tony voted cement and didn't kill on purpose to throw us off?

100% not possible

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dana wrote:Could it be possible that Tony voted cement and didn't kill on purpose to throw us off?

100% not possible

How come?

Dana wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dana wrote:Could it be possible that Tony voted cement and didn't kill on purpose to throw us off?

100% not possible

How come?

Too many assumptions associated with this theory. You assume A) Tony knew the poll would result in a block and B) That Tony was for some reason willing to forgo a kill during the end stages of the game.

Not possible.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dana wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dana wrote:Could it be possible that Tony voted cement and didn't kill on purpose to throw us off?

100% not possible

How come?

Too many assumptions associated with this theory. You assume A) Tony knew the poll would result in a block and B) That Tony was for some reason willing to forgo a kill during the end stages of the game.

Not possible.

Hmm, that makes sense. Just looking at all the possibilities here.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dana wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dana wrote:Could it be possible that Tony voted cement and didn't kill on purpose to throw us off?

100% not possible

How come?

Too many assumptions associated with this theory. You assume A) Tony knew the poll would result in a block and B) That Tony was for some reason willing to forgo a kill during the end stages of the game.

Not possible.

Agreed.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dana wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dana wrote:Could it be possible that Tony voted cement and didn't kill on purpose to throw us off?

100% not possible

How come?

Too many assumptions associated with this theory. You assume A) Tony knew the poll would result in a block and B) That Tony was for some reason willing to forgo a kill during the end stages of the game.

Not possible.

Agreed.

Yeah even if tony bought my crazy gambit, or figured I was Virtue or something, They would of let me lived and killed ketterman as a sort of power move to kill 2 virtue in one day/night cycle, before virtue would have a chance to react night 6.

Then again, if this is a trick, which very well could be true (as people did pretty much look at the hiding bodies vote as a sorta day 0 doesn't really matter thing). Then convincing the public to vote harbor and switching their vote would of been effective, and not killing anyone tonight would of been a very easy way to avoid suspicion for the rest of the game.

It should be considered.

Made wrote:
Yeah even if tony bought my crazy gambit, or figured I was Virtue or something, They would of let me lived and killed ketterman as a sort of power move to kill 2 virtue in one day/night cycle, before virtue would have a chance to react night 6.

Did you seriously just out Keterman and yourself as Virtue here?

Definitely sounds like it to me.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Made wrote:
Yeah even if tony bought my crazy gambit, or figured I was Virtue or something, They would of let me lived and killed ketterman as a sort of power move to kill 2 virtue in one day/night cycle, before virtue would have a chance to react night 6.

Did you seriously just out Keterman and yourself as Virtue here?

Definitely sounds like it to me.

I'm working with the theory you guys presented as to not upside you delicate cognative biases <3

Made wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Made wrote:
Yeah even if tony bought my crazy gambit, or figured I was Virtue or something, They would of let me lived and killed ketterman as a sort of power move to kill 2 virtue in one day/night cycle, before virtue would have a chance to react night 6.

Did you seriously just out Keterman and yourself as Virtue here?

Definitely sounds like it to me.

I'm working with the theory you guys presented as to not upside you delicate cognative biases <3

Lol, nice try though.

to rephrase, in the event Tony belives myself and ketterman to be Virtue, they would let me live, as no one trust me, and kill ketterman at night as Virtue kill on even nights. killing both could of us, assuming I and Ketterman are virtue, would result in virtue being eliminated, or have one remaining player.

So if Made and Keterman are the last two Virtue, then who is Tony?

Thoughts? Because I'm at the point now where I was definitely thinking Dana and Bullz were not bad...

Instead of trying to refute an incorrect theory that says you are mafia you embrace that theory even at the detriment of the entire town.

Genius.

DharmaHelper wrote:Instead of trying to refute an incorrect theory that says you are mafia you embrace that theory even at the detriment of the entire town.

Genius.

MovingPictures07 wrote:So if Made and Keterman are the last two Virtue, then who is Tony?

Thoughts? Because I'm at the point now where I was definitely thinking Dana and Bullz were not bad...

Tony would have to be either you, Bullz, or Nijuu or Keterman.

I thought you said Nijuu didn't vote for Harbor.

If she did, then I would bet she's Tony.

I don't know if she did or not because she didn't state so in a post, from what I saw.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I thought you said Nijuu didn't vote for Harbor.

If she did, then I would bet she's Tony.

I don't know if she did or not because she didn't state so in a post, from what I saw.

Oh if you're going off just Harbor voters then it would be either you or Bullz.

DharmaHelper wrote:Instead of trying to refute an incorrect theory that says you are mafia you embrace that theory even at the detriment of the entire town.

Genius.

Very actually! But we can talk about that come end game. I have no points to add, so i'm just helping to develop the ideas of those still in game that don't conflict with my personal opinions, and still work with the assumption i'm civvie, which will be revealed (hopefully) tonight.

for example, trying to understand why tony didn't kill makes sense to do both if i am Virtue and if i'm civvie.

You're acting like I was going to some how convince everyone i'm civvie, which totally isn't happening.

linki- why the hell does everyone all of the suddent trust dana?
Linki- ALSO YOU YELL AT ME FOR ACKNOWLEDGING TONY'S POTENTIAL ACTIONS, THEN AGREE WITH ME? DUDE? ARE YOU EVEN DOE?

DharmaHelper wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I thought you said Nijuu didn't vote for Harbor.

If she did, then I would bet she's Tony.

I don't know if she did or not because she didn't state so in a post, from what I saw.

Oh if you're going off just Harbor voters then it would be either you or Bullz.

Well, I know it's not me. Bullz seems pretty civ to me, but I guess it's possible.

If it came down to you or Bullz, I honestly wouldn't be sure what to do. I'd have to think about it.

Made wrote: linki- why the hell does everyone all of the suddent trust dana?

Spoken like a true Virtue team member.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Made wrote: linki- why the hell does everyone all of the suddent trust dana?

Spoken like a true Virtue team member.

Made wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Instead of trying to refute an incorrect theory that says you are mafia you embrace that theory even at the detriment of the entire town.

Genius.

Very actually! But we can talk about that come end game. I have no points to add, so i'm just helping to develop the ideas of those still in game that don't conflict with my personal opinions, and still work with the assumption i'm civvie, which will be revealed (hopefully) tonight.

for example, trying to understand why tony didn't kill makes sense to do both if i am Virtue and if i'm civvie.

You're acting like I was going to some how convince everyone i'm civvie, which totally isn't happening.

linki- why the hell does everyone all of the suddent trust dana?
Linki- ALSO YOU YELL AT ME FOR ACKNOWLEDGING TONY'S POTENTIAL ACTIONS, THEN AGREE WITH ME? DUDE? ARE YOU EVEN DOE?

I don't agree with you. At all. Ever. Not even once.

DharmaHelper wrote:
I don't agree with you. At all. Ever. Not even once.

You didn't my bad, interpreteted you Harbor post incorrectly.

Just realized something, did we ever ask for day to end? I mean, it worked last time.

Made wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:
I don't agree with you. At all. Ever. Not even once.

my bad,

Yes, you're bad.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I thought you said Nijuu didn't vote for Harbor.

If she did, then I would bet she's Tony.

I don't know if she did or not because she didn't state so in a post, from what I saw.

Just to set the record straight because it's driving me nuts reading it over and over, I absolutely voted for wet cement :P Throwing bodies into a body of water is a horrible idea, and I would never pick it. Proof:

nijuukyugou wrote:Wet cement makes the most sense, although I'd imagine it would be a rather messy and tedious business However, the bodies could be more easily found in a locker, a cooler (mmm meatsicle), or the water. Wet cement it is!

I promise I don't dispose of bodies for a living. Promise.

Also, I don't even understand what Made is trying to argue here, but it sure is amusing. Logic be damned.

nijuukyugou wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I thought you said Nijuu didn't vote for Harbor.

If she did, then I would bet she's Tony.

I don't know if she did or not because she didn't state so in a post, from what I saw.

Just to set the record straight because it's driving me nuts reading it over and over, I absolutely voted for wet cement :P Throwing bodies into a body of water is a horrible idea, and I would never pick it. Proof:

nijuukyugou wrote:Wet cement makes the most sense, although I'd imagine it would be a rather messy and tedious business However, the bodies could be more easily found in a locker, a cooler (mmm meatsicle), or the water. Wet cement it is!

I promise I don't dispose of bodies for a living. Promise.

Also, I don't even understand what Made is trying to argue here, but it sure is amusing. Logic be damned.

for those attempting to write my biography post mordem, all i'm trying to do is make sense of things in a way that would makes sense when I relieved to be civvie.

nijuukyugou wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I thought you said Nijuu didn't vote for Harbor.

If she did, then I would bet she's Tony.

I don't know if she did or not because she didn't state so in a post, from what I saw.

Just to set the record straight because it's driving me nuts reading it over and over, I absolutely voted for wet cement :P Throwing bodies into a body of water is a horrible idea, and I would never pick it. Proof:

nijuukyugou wrote:Wet cement makes the most sense, although I'd imagine it would be a rather messy and tedious business However, the bodies could be more easily found in a locker, a cooler (mmm meatsicle), or the water. Wet cement it is!

I promise I don't dispose of bodies for a living. Promise.

Also, I don't even understand what Made is trying to argue here, but it sure is amusing. Logic be damned.

Oh, I must have missed that. Thanks Blooper!

That settles it then.

That's what I get for trying to read through posts while multitasking, lol.

MovingPictures07 wrote:That's what I get for trying to read through posts while multitasking, lol.

I am CONSTANTLY multitasking, so it's totally understandable