The Syndicate

Ricochet wrote:So my theory so far is shaping up like this:

if the stats are correct that a 1-vote 11-player tie took place and a player gets lynched through randomization, then it must mean the player who got lynched survived the lynch, according to his position 1

ergo any of the following players (BWT, Canuck, Epignosis, Golden, MP, Russ, SVS, Tranq, Unfurl, Wilgy - I'm not, but feel free to throw me in as well; I would have super dead and super pissed if I would have been lynched or if the Day would have ended with me having two votes) can be:

Ubzargan the Ruthless - Immune to NK/Lynch
Jilted Lover - Can’t die as long as ? alive

I don't believe that Lord of Thunder's +/-3 votes would have changed this situation, if he already manipulated something by the time the Day ended. either he added votes and then there is definitely a specific survivor, which Lordy may now choose to try to hint at; either he substracted votes and it's still a large pool of tied players and the theory above still applies, but with vague chances of pinpointing at anyone in particular

same with Windscout, we don't know how many votes he can take down, but I doubt it's up to 10

I'm not sure if The Immortal's random power can activate during the Day, but even if it can, it's really a stretch to imagine that he protected someone that early and the stars aligned so that the one person he randomly protected was the one person that randomly got lynched; plus, we haven't seen a second death

same with Terras. can he protect during the Day? if so, same stretch of the imagination

If I missed anything, let me know, but so far I believe this to be the conclusion: our non-lynched player today is Uzbargan or the Jilted Lover. unfortunately we have 11 candidates for this spot

Golden wrote:
My thoughts on your theory

1) BR and LC needed to figure out the vote situation, so I don't think it likely that the lynch was simply stopped (unless there is another reason for them to need to do the count back).

2) I'm not so quick to discount the Lord of Thunder. He could theoretically given +3 votes to anyone and the person he gave them to could be Ubzargan/jilted lover. This would still require LC/BR to do a countback. That means that there is a 50% chance that literally any player could have been leading the vote.

3) But there is a 50% chance thunder said minus three.

Golden wrote:Also, I'm 4 glad BWT survived. His comment when he thought he was lynched seemed sincere to me (and just a little sad).

Ricochet wrote:So my theory so far is shaping up like this:

if the stats are correct that a 1-vote 11-player tie took place and a player gets lynched through randomization, then it must mean the player who got lynched survived the lynch, according to his position 1

ergo any of the following players (BWT, Canuck, Epignosis, Golden, MP, Russ, SVS, Tranq, Unfurl, Wilgy - I'm not, but feel free to throw me in as well; I would have super dead and super pissed if I would have been lynched or if the Day would have ended with me having two votes) can be:

Ubzargan the Ruthless - Immune to NK/Lynch
Jilted Lover - Can’t die as long as ? alive

I don't believe that Lord of Thunder's +/-3 votes would have changed this situation, if he already manipulated something by the time the Day ended. either he added votes and then there is definitely a specific survivor, which Lordy may now choose to try to hint at; either he substracted votes and it's still a large pool of tied players and the theory above still applies, but with vague chances of pinpointing at anyone in particular

same with Windscout, we don't know how many votes he can take down, but I doubt it's up to 10

I'm not sure if The Immortal's random power can activate during the Day, but even if it can, it's really a stretch to imagine that he protected someone that early and the stars aligned so that the one person he randomly protected was the one person that randomly got lynched; plus, we haven't seen a second death

same with Terras. can he protect during the Day? if so, same stretch of the imagination

If I missed anything, let me know, but so far I believe this to be the conclusion: our non-lynched player today is Uzbargan or the Jilted Lover. unfortunately we have 11 candidates for this spot

birdwithteeth11 wrote: What if both Windscout and Lord of Thunder had used their abilities? Were there more than 8 votes at the time the lynch ended?

Actually, looking back now, it looks like there were. So there goes my theory out the window.

Kinda does.

I guess the only thing I can think that happened is that the Lord of Thunder moved votes onto someone who was unlynchable at the time. It's the only possibility I can see in the role listing that makes sense.

Unless a lynch pardon actually WAS used in time. But someone would have had to be pretty quick to get that in before the day was ended early. So I'm going to consider that possibility very unlikely.

Linki: I didn't think at the time I was at risk of a sudden lynch train that came straight on at me later on, so it was more of a funny/sarcastic comment that I forgot to put in orange.

Or so you say now.

LoRab wrote:BWT: are you going to ignore the reasons that people voted for you? Or explain why your list of lowest 8 posters was missing several names?

aapje wrote:Hmm I guess that was too big

How about this:
Day 1 short
Day 1 full

Long Con wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:YAAAAYAYYAYAUYAYYUUUUYYYU RECRUITMENT GAME! Thanks for letting me sneak in last minute, beauteous hoagies!

Did... did you call us hoagies?

timmer wrote:unfurl may have helped herself out? At that time, she couldn't know how the day would flesh out, right? I think trying to tie the time so narrowly is a risky guess, anyway. Lots to ponder, little to truly gleam.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:This doesn't seem right for unfurl to end the day early, but this is the finaly tally I came up with. Everyone had 1 vote except unfurl who had 2. This makes more sense for someone like BWT to be the one who stopped the lynch.

2 - unfurl

• DrWilgy (1), MovingPictures07 (3)

1 - birdwithteeth11

• Devin the Omniscient (7)

1 - Canucklehead

• Spacedaisy (9)

1 - DrWilgy

• DisgruntledPorcupine (6)

1 - Epignosis

• Golden (2)

1 - Golden

• Epignosis (4)

1 - MovingPictures07

• unfurl (11)

1 - Russtifinko

• bea (8)

1 - S~V~S

• Scotty (5)

1 - Tranq

• G-Man (10)

Caelia - Children of Serenity
Lynch Pardon

Ubzargan the Ruthless - Warriors of the Shadows
Immune to NK/Lynch

Shield Spinner - Guardian Clan
Immune to all Kills

Jilted Lover - Children of Serenity Clan
Can’t die as long as ? alive

Terras, Bastion of Hope - Guardians of the Lifeforce
Protects all Guardians

Long Con wrote:

Seed of Paranoia

It was raining in the moderately-sized fishing village of Driix. Two local guardsmen, of the constabulary sect of the Children of Serenity, were making their rounds along the rickety piers and stone-lined sideroads that made up the most active portion of the village.

"Hold up," said one, "There's a new message from central command." He pulled out a small screen and read closely, his face glowing with a bluish-green light as he leaned over it, sheltering it from the rain with his body.

"What's the scoop?" said the other. "More uniform regulation changes?"

"No..." he said, frowning slightly. "No, this is different." He looked up. "We're supposed to look out for deserters and suspicious activity."

"Deserters? Here?" the other scoffed incredulously. "What are they deserting, their families? Their crappy jobs?" He gave a short, mocking laugh.

"No, this is different. Seems pretty serious. Supposedly, the Warrior of the Shadows are making some sort of power play. There's been a couple of deaths already."

"Well, I doubt anything will happen here, it's only a-" His words were cut short by a loud crash just around the corner. They looked at each other, and both began to run to where the noise had originated.

When they rounded the corner, they could see a shadowy form next to a crate that had fallen and broken open by the docks. "Hey!" yelled the first guard, and the figure looked up, startled, and began to run.

"Hey, stop!" he yelled again, and began to give chase.

"I've got him," growled the second, and pulled out bolas from his belt, twirling them above his head. "Non-lethal measures," he grinned. "I've been practicing!"

The first guard stopped, and raised his eyebrows, impressed. The second twirled them once more and let them fly. They twirled through the air toward the shadowy figure, and both guards cheered as the figure toppled in a clump. "Nice one, man, where did you get those??"

"I sent away for them!" he grinned, and they both jogged over to accost the figure.

They arrived to see the figure writhing and clawing at their neck, where the bolas had wrapped around tightly. The figure's face was turning purple, eyes bulging.

"Whoa, whoa, get it off him! It's choking him, quick!" They tried to unwind the bolas, but they were too tightly tangled. Before they could get the figure free, they had stopped clawing and writhing, and had gone limp.

"Agh, no, he's dead, he's dead!" said the guard frantically, finally unwrapping the bolas. "Oh, man, this is really bad!"

"I know!" They both stared down at the body despondently. "Should we... should we push him in the water?"

"We're so losing our jobs."

Just then, to their relief, the figure began to cough and groan. The two guards helped him up and gave him some water, telling him alternately how they were so sorry, and trying to gauge the chances that he would press charges.

No one has been lynched. The lynch was ended early, at 5:46pm. If you wish to know exactly who wasn't lynched, then you'll have to do what we just had to do, and go through posts to see who voted when, and for whom, before that time.

From now on, bold and colour your official votes in the thread when you make or change them. That will make this much easier, should it happen again. Tell your friends; not everyone will read this.

It is now Night 1. Get your PMs in as early as possible, because this game has a lot of factors to sift through.

Night 1 will last for less than 24 hours. Please refer to Phase 2's Position Poll for the exact end time of the Night.

Also WTF Kadaj???

aapje wrote: @Hosts:
Does the shield spinner only protect from NKs?
How does Terras' protection work? What does it protect from and when is it active?
Also since all colours are already claimed, I am just going to use them all for questions :P

bea wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:I only got 1 response on my question about SVS. Its rather important, even more so than my other questions.

MM89, you me and Unfurl are all on a team now. Ok?

ok - so your question was about svs being aritstic right? I don't know her to be personally so, but as others have pointed out. Good google images searches make that a moot point really...I personally can't make a *bad* paint drawing as well as like well - others not playing this game, but I know how google images search works....

As to wheither I think she is bad or not yet, no. I don't. I haven't seen her say or do anything that I wouldn't expect her to say or do.I know her pretty well, but tbh, it's in regular games about day 3-4 when I get my feelings about her.

And while I'm here, I need to ask you, good doctor of the wiggle, - I've seen several people post defenses of you based on "he's from JMT." - Please explain this to me. I know during the champions game, there was all SORTS of cross over and we all met and blended and everyone is trying different things in different forums. Except that - I missed all that. I was sadly absent as I was acclimating to a new job and new responsibilities. So I don't know about your history at your home site and I don't understand what "He's from JMT" means. I want to understand that Please explain it to me.

unfurl wrote:Host
LC- BR
Are the names of roles on the post, just for storytelling? being specific the Warrior of the Shadows or they have some involment in game mechanics for the lynch

Master of Shadows - Warrior of the Shadows
Position 1: Choose your own position
Position 5: Become a shadow, you can’t be night targeted and all votes for you will not count

Ricochet wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

A penny for your thoughts?

Black Rock wrote:Master of Shadows - Warrior of the Shadows

Position 1: Choose your own position
Position 2: You may post in the thread as your role
Position 3: Follow a player in the shadows and see who that player targets, affect the outcome.
Position 4: Cast a shadow on a player, all votes for that player will be cut in half
Position 5: Become a shadow, you can’t be night targeted and all votes for you will not count

Keeper of Order - Brotherhood of the Inner Eye
If a negative item is passed to him then it will be automatically destroyed.

Position 1: Pull a player over
Position 2: Interrogation
Position 3: Bandwagon police
Position 4: Low poster police
Position 5: Punisher

The Avenger - Guardians of the Lifeforce

Position 1: Absorb votes: for every vote you get, your own vote counts +0.5
Position 2: Reflect powers back. The Avenger is not affected.
Position 3: If you get lynched you take one of your voters with you
Position 4: Every person who has voted for you in the past starts the lynch with 1 vote for each time they voted for you
Position 5: If you are targeted at night both you and the role targeting you are affected.

The Gambler - Sorcerers of the Elements

Position 1: Select a number X. If the vote-leader in the next lynch receives X number of votes, you may utilize any one of that player's position powers the following night in addition to your own. If the vote-leader in the next lynch does not receive X votes, then your vote will be randomly forced the following lynch phase.
Position 2: Your vote is worth double, but you also start the day with one extra vote.
Position 3: Choose a clan to get a random power from. You will gain a vote each time the player whose power you have used gains a vote on the following day cycle.
Position 4: If you are targeted with an odd number of night powers, they will all be negated. If you are targeted with an even number of night powers, you will attract the direction of another night power for each one you are already targeted with.
Position 5: Select a number X. X random players will receive one additional vote against them this day phase. If any of these X players votes for you, their vote is worth double.

Ricochet wrote:The Hosts announced them.

I joked about the Gambler sounding like something boo would have submitted. :P

Long Con wrote:There are unanswered questions out there.... this is a talkative thread. If a question has gone unanswered, then please feel free to ask again. In fact, if y'all want to work together, you could keep a record of unanswered questions, and re-post it on a semi-regular basis. That's currently my best solution to ensure that all questions are answered.

aapje wrote:

unfurl wrote:Host
LC- BR
Are the names of roles on the post, just for storytelling? being specific the Warrior of the Shadows or they have some involment in game mechanics for the lynch

Knowing the hosts that wouldn't surprise me. That seems to point to either Ubzargan of the Master of Shadows who I missed earlier. Note to people using my earlier position breakdown: not all roles were created at the time.

Master of Shadows - Warrior of the Shadows
Position 1: Choose your own position
Position 5: Become a shadow, you can’t be night targeted and all votes for you will not count

Ubzargan the Ruthless - Warriors of the Shadows
Immune to NK/Lynch

Ricochet wrote:Anyway, I remember writing position 3 down as the nastiest, but apparently some really wanna go there. :P Quickly looking over the abilities, there's some advantages to it. The Judge is obviously active, so he might end the Night early this time and prevent a lot of night powers going through. I assume those Guardian rezzes might also be of assistance, in case the lynch goes bad. On the bad side, we'll get a lockdown (which I'm sure will translate into a thread and poll freeze at a point Uzbarglarg will see fit) and I'm already having anxiety from almost getting lynched , The Immortal tying 3 players with the same fate, a Firetrap (??) and a dragon.

With position 5, the Judge might restart the Day if the lynch goes bad, which can be a good thing; or he might restart it even if the lynch goes well, in which case we'll hunt his ass. There's a rezz here as well. Manipulation of votes and power corrupting seems high (although some of them may be night abilities, hence transfering into D3), plus there's a punisher, a competition of some sorts and an immolation in eventuality.

Overall, I don't think it's the right time to head into the belly of the beast with either position 2 or 3, so I'm going to go with position 5.

linki

DrWilgy wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

A penny for your thoughts?

Yeah, wondering if you're really playing it obvious about something or it just appears that way.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:From a previous thread lock experience, not only is the thread locked, but the poll is locked as well. So I think it can still be crucial at this point in the game, and Black Rock has already confirmed that both will be locked.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:For the record, if I could pick a position in the current poll, I'd vote for Position 5.

LoRab wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:From a previous thread lock experience, not only is the thread locked, but the poll is locked as well. So I think it can still be crucial at this point in the game, and Black Rock has already confirmed that both will be locked.

Crucial at any time, but I'd argue that it's less dangerous early in the game, when no one has as much to go on and nearly everything we discuss is speculation. IMHO. I think conversation becomes more important as the game goes on. And it's not like we can avoid position 3. But I'd rather the baddies have 2 to 3 people to discuss strategy on it than a whole lot more. I personally think it's a power whose danger increases as the game goes on.

Scotty wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:For the record, if I could pick a position in the current poll, I'd vote for Position 5.

For the record, you are apparently a non-player by your vote today

Ricochet wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:For the record, if I could pick a position in the current poll, I'd vote for Position 5.

For the record, you are apparently a non-player by your vote today

Perhaps a premonition?

Scotty wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:For the record, if I could pick a position in the current poll, I'd vote for Position 5.

For the record, you are apparently a non-player by your vote today