The Syndicate

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 pm I think the most darning part of Wilgy's claim is actually that he says he didn't trust anyone with a role check or with btsc until day 6

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 pm I think the most darning part of Wilgy's claim is actually that he says he didn't trust anyone with a role check or with btsc until day 6

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:15 pm @tutuu @Michelle did you redirect wilgy last night?

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 pm actually i have to check something

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 pm please hold

*garbled violins begin to play*

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:30 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 pm actually i have to check something

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 pm please hold

*garbled violins begin to play*

nvm I thought maybe MR had claimed a different target earlier but he didn't

and he did indeed soft a bunch of bait toward Wilgy

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:24 pm but idk it's been a while since I've played with wilgy maybe he's become cold and cynical and lives in a hollowed out tree now

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:30 pm Btw guys officially biggest game in syndicate history for post count.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:49 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:26 pm Let it be known that I hate redirection roles of all kind

On the contrary, redirection roles at 1000% necessary for role madness to work.

Cops, trackers, doctors, blockers, jailkeeps, etc are all super freaking powerful. On top of just having the ability to stop kills or make wolf yeets way more likely, townies tend to claim, use and react to mechanical stuff in a townie way. See: Wilgy and Dizzy today.

There's only two ways you can counter this as a host.

First, by giving the wolves a bunch of equally dangerous mechanical abilities. This can be fun in big games but in practice, leads to a lot of games that are imbalanced because the host improperly judges the sheer power of the roles on each side. Maybe your wolf conditional vigilante gets yeeted D1. Maybe they manage to get an extra kill off every night. Maybe your players don't appreciate that don cloak. Maybe wolves still just have no way to get a misyeet. This method is iffy.

Second, you can counter it by giving out redirection powers, especially town random redirectors on top of wolves targeted redirectors (controllers, commanders, controlled misdirectors, whatever you wanna call them) and busdrivers. The town is VERY likely to trip over itself with incorrect information, outting power roles and getting misyeets. Every cop check is a potential error. Every track could be wrong. Roles that default to unchoppable 100% accuracy wolf catchers become choppable and have a 75% accuracy instead. You get everything good about role madness while mitigating the bad.

Redirection roles are the key to good role madness.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:31 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:30 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 pm actually i have to check something

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 pm please hold

*garbled violins begin to play*

nvm I thought maybe MR had claimed a different target earlier but he didn't

and he did indeed soft a bunch of bait toward Wilgy

I admire your determination to catch me with mech.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 pm I think the most darning part of Wilgy's claim is actually that he says he didn't trust anyone with a role check or with btsc until day 6

also yes this is true, especially since he's claiming it's a one-shot gift each time

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:59 pm @Alison are you gonna be here at EoD and vote?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:34 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 pm I think the most darning part of Wilgy's claim is actually that he says he didn't trust anyone with a role check or with btsc until day 6

also yes this is true, especially since he's claiming it's a one-shot gift each time

I technically started using it n4.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:30 pm Btw guys officially biggest game in syndicate history for post count.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:37 pmThey'd also become aware of why I'm hesitant with this power.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:23 pm @Justplayingitcool, @Long Con, @Syn, are you ing and saying POE as your vote remains on me? Let me into your head.

The more I'm thinking about my scenario, the more I'm thinking that this is just an easy braindead misyeet.

While I don't understand HK, at least they've voiced something... Ted too, but Teds 3p I assume.

I'd think it's easy for the anti-town roles to be hiding on this. I guess it's still not LC.

JPIC, Syn, HK? Are one of you a wolf?

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:36 pm

Spoiler: show

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:31 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:10 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:14 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:50 am I'm opening up for MR.

I remember bei g sus of them previously and I think we went 112 instead of them? I recall there was discussion along lines of "if 112 os bad MR has to be good." And we kinda tabled the MR suspicion since in spite of 112 being 3p.

There was no 'we'. That was Made's theory.

Are you gonna tell me what you found out about Michelle's role?

Not without Michelle's consent.

@Michelle can you give consent?

:nod:
Because you press so hard, you will face my paranoia

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:56 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:16 am This day should be Ted's day.
Trusting him when Kyle has a mechanical confirmed peek doesn't look good.
'But Michelle, Ted said he is 3rd.'
Yes, i know, but the way he is not explaining why he wants to lynch DrW is nagl.
I would lynch always Ted before DrW here.

this line of thinking isn't good though! Chopping Ted doesn't get us a wolf, and doesn't get us closer to a wolf.
Like think of Ted like Allison, right? 3p, has a win con, is trying to pursue that win con, and isn't getting in our way.

We gain at best minimal advantage today chopping Ted. Basically it's one less person posting and therefore one less person wolves can interact with/engage with that isn't town, and therefore makes it slightly harder to blend in.
I don't understand why you'd take the guaranteed 3p chop vs potential wolf chop at all.
Unless you're a wolf that is. which the more you post like this the more i think you may be.

You don't know if Ted is lying or not though.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:38 pm all other things being equal ted is a better yeet than wilgy is, right? especially if wilgy can prove his thing with michelle

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:19 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:11 pm why are people moving off wilgy? just stay on him imo

he claimed to have been a self-clearing role in the case of a very simple scenario occurring and hasn’t claimed a role related thing since the thread has opened

Clear would've come from my power turning someone into a role checker or by turning myself into a btsc giver.

Kyle used it on me instead and turned me into a role checker.

I checked Michelle. Don't think Michelle is scum and I'm not willing to share what Michelle has to do.

I'm still a role checker for some reason. Not sure why I'm stuck this way.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:07 pm Hey y'all, I wanted to let you talk and stuff before telling you.

Ted targeted Martin last night. I tracked him. He almost definitely killed him.

[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

If the game doesn't end, then Hollowkatt is my mean suspicion as his last teammate, followed by Hyena and JPIC.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:07 pm Hey y'all, I wanted to let you talk and stuff before telling you.

Ted targeted Martin last night. I tracked him. He almost definitely killed him.

[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

If the game doesn't end, then Hollowkatt is my mean suspicion as his last teammate, followed by Hyena and JPIC.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:45 pm Ted and Alison have both claimed 3P, right?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:07 pm Hey y'all, I wanted to let you talk and stuff before telling you.

Ted targeted Martin last night. I tracked him. He almost definitely killed him.

[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

If the game doesn't end, then Hollowkatt is my mean suspicion as his last teammate, followed by Hyena and JPIC.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:48 pm I swear I've played a game longer than this

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:13 pm Actually, uh, can we not exceed more than ten votes please

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:07 pm Hey y'all, I wanted to let you talk and stuff before telling you.

Ted targeted Martin last night. I tracked him. He almost definitely killed him.

[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

If the game doesn't end, then Hollowkatt is my mean suspicion as his last teammate, followed by Hyena and JPIC.