Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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to sow confusionDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pmWhy wouldn't Wilgy just claim to have targeted me though? If he read my claim in thread?
Antisocial.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:01 pm @DrWilgy Why did you not use your role to gain btsc the first days?
I guess I just mean why the elaborate lie about being redirected? Why not just true role cop someone, we all say 'oh Wilgy seems like town then' and easy done.Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pmwhatMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pmI mean he probably is a role cop. More likely he just copped Dizzy and knew about it.
Thing he has going for him is straight out saying 'I copped Michelle' and then not really hesitating to give Dizzy's role.
he waffled on it for several pages
michelle even almost claimed for him, i had to remind them not to
alsoSyn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:34 pmto sow confusionDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pmWhy wouldn't Wilgy just claim to have targeted me though? If he read my claim in thread?
which he has succeeded in
an unknown redirector screws everything up
He's thunderdomed me on mafia actions that he was responsible for and then pointed the finger.
That seems like a silly idea. As mafia you always claim as close to the truth as you can, or else you'll get found out. I'm not Wilgy, but that just seems ...not the most logical thing to do. But what do I know.
because he's not a role copMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:34 pmI guess I just mean why the elaborate lie about being redirected? Why not just true role cop someone, we all say 'oh Wilgy seems like town then' and easy done.Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pmwhatMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pmI mean he probably is a role cop. More likely he just copped Dizzy and knew about it.
Thing he has going for him is straight out saying 'I copped Michelle' and then not really hesitating to give Dizzy's role.
he waffled on it for several pages
michelle even almost claimed for him, i had to remind them not to
Hm. Yeah. Maybe he's just scum. Maybe Ted is right. But there's also no reason not to yeet Ted for anyone else than Ted. We can yeet both.
Yeah.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:35 pmThat seems like a silly idea. As mafia you always claim as close to the truth as you can, or else you'll get found out. I'm not Wilgy, but that just seems ...not the most logical thing to do. But what do I know.
The rules say you can't self vote...wouldn't want you getting mod killed, even though that resolves POE it's just no fun.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:37 pm I will say, just to stop myself going for retrospective credit I don't deserve (regardless of flip),
I instantly disbelieved Ted's 3P claim. It felt too convenient. But he has been so insistent that he was winning me over. I couldn't reconcile it with Kyle's claims and was going to shrugginly advocate we chop Ted today. But I definitely felt he was being sincere by the end.
So one way or another he's succeeded in convincing me of something he wanted to convince me of.
Sick mindmeld.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:35 pmDoes anyone have a 'double chop' power we can use on both of them today?
Think about how you can try to be helpful the following night if you are town. We have lots of roles.
But he hasn't really lied as far as we know about any of this.Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:36 pmbecause he's not a role copMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:34 pmI guess I just mean why the elaborate lie about being redirected? Why not just true role cop someone, we all say 'oh Wilgy seems like town then' and easy done.Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pmwhatMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pmI mean he probably is a role cop. More likely he just copped Dizzy and knew about it.
Thing he has going for him is straight out saying 'I copped Michelle' and then not really hesitating to give Dizzy's role.
he waffled on it for several pages
michelle even almost claimed for him, i had to remind them not to
you're assuming here wilgy really does choose between giving someone a role check or BTSC
kyle's ability doesn't tell him what the person does, it just lets him pick the target afaik
Yes, there is a reason.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:36 pmHm. Yeah. Maybe he's just scum. Maybe Ted is right. But there's also no reason not to yeet Ted for anyone else than Ted. We can yeet both.
I am once again asking for a double yeet.
What box do you think I'm in?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:39 pm My tinfoil hat radio messages say MR is desperate to get out of the box he finds himself in. I don’t think that’s actually what’s happening but it’s hard to not see it.
Check MR tonight?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:39 pm My tinfoil hat radio messages say MR is desperate to get out of the box he finds himself in. I don’t think that’s actually what’s happening but it’s hard to not see it.
This is what I was saying ages ago. We should yeet Alison at some point too tbh, just to be fair to all 3Ps.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pm I'm keeping my vote on you, Ted. Wilgy will not escape if he is mafia. But whatever your role is, you're not town, so it's not my responsibility to help you fulfil your wincon.
there. is. a. 50%. chance. for. him. to. be. mafia. ship. which. if. it. dies. i. leave. the. game. victorious.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pm I'm keeping my vote on you, Ted. Wilgy will not escape if he is mafia. But whatever your role is, you're not town, so it's not my responsibility to help you fulfil your wincon.
The “role madness has cut the poe down to nothing so I’m gonna continually say only Tony and Jack should be confirmed and beg confusion” box.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pmWhat box do you think I'm in?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:39 pm My tinfoil hat radio messages say MR is desperate to get out of the box he finds himself in. I don’t think that’s actually what’s happening but it’s hard to not see it.
Also fine with that.Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pmCheck MR tonight?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:39 pm My tinfoil hat radio messages say MR is desperate to get out of the box he finds himself in. I don’t think that’s actually what’s happening but it’s hard to not see it.
Eh.
just to confirm, if you find this ship and blast it, you stop posting, bye bye?tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:39 pmYes, there is a reason.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:36 pmHm. Yeah. Maybe he's just scum. Maybe Ted is right. But there's also no reason not to yeet Ted for anyone else than Ted. We can yeet both.
I am once again asking for a double yeet.
he's outed and from my actions, it lines up with how i played in thread and my suspicions (so i'm VERY likely to be what i claim i am and he's pretty much mafia in all worlds). PLUS he has a 50% chance of being the mafia ship, in that case i just leave the damn game, that's why i'm fighting so haarrdddddddddd
The POE?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pmWhat box do you think I'm in?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:39 pm My tinfoil hat radio messages say MR is desperate to get out of the box he finds himself in. I don’t think that’s actually what’s happening but it’s hard to not see it.
Maybe.Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pmCheck MR tonight?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:39 pm My tinfoil hat radio messages say MR is desperate to get out of the box he finds himself in. I don’t think that’s actually what’s happening but it’s hard to not see it.
Eh.
If things are as you say, it sucks a lot. I totally understand that.tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:39 pmYes, there is a reason.
he's outed and from my actions, it lines up with how i played in thread and my suspicions (so i'm VERY likely to be what i claim i am and he's pretty much mafia in all worlds). PLUS he has a 50% chance of being the mafia ship, in that case i just leave the damn game, that's why i'm fighting so haarrdddddddddd
Well tonight I use a check, tomorrow night I provide a check to someone else who's probably not going to miss out on their power, and then they check me. It all lines up and the game will either be over with a town win or there's be enough people alive so that I can still be removed from the PoE.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:39 pmThink about how you can try to be helpful the following night if you are town. We have lots of roles.
I was the one who created a narrow PoE on like D4/D5.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:41 pmThe “role madness has cut the poe down to nothing so I’m gonna continually say only Tony and Jack should be confirmed and beg confusion” box.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pmWhat box do you think I'm in?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:39 pm My tinfoil hat radio messages say MR is desperate to get out of the box he finds himself in. I don’t think that’s actually what’s happening but it’s hard to not see it.
idk what to say man, you are wrong if you are 3p. You fucked up if you are scum.tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:41 pmthere. is. a. 50%. chance. for. him. to. be. mafia. ship. which. if. it. dies. i. leave. the. game. victorious.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pm I'm keeping my vote on you, Ted. Wilgy will not escape if he is mafia. But whatever your role is, you're not town, so it's not my responsibility to help you fulfil your wincon.
i literally just made a post for why he's never town, you even agreed with it (sorta)Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:42 pm For me, I just risk more if we're wrong and Wilgy is town
but your plea entails you bagging us a wolf, so we couldn't block you in any scenario where you stay alivetedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:42 pm if you guys are so scared of me, then just put blockers on me and i promise i won't even bus drive myself or do anything
just yeet wilgy, it's my last shot of achieving my wincon and i am acknowledging it.
you have more reasons to believe my action choices to be lining up with my role claim, whereas wilgy is just caught up in a lie without any sort of doubt.
I feel for you actually. But I'm thinking it could be that you're seeing Wilgy as confirmed scum because you want to? I understand the points against him, but in a game like this, it wouldn't be the first time something weird happened. And Wilgy could potentially be town, while you could not be.
When i accepted the reveal DrW was top wagon already, that means he would rather be killed than expose such a towny role. Mafia don't self sacrifice like this.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:37 pmYeah.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:35 pmThat seems like a silly idea. As mafia you always claim as close to the truth as you can, or else you'll get found out. I'm not Wilgy, but that just seems ...not the most logical thing to do. But what do I know.
Also, of the two of them, Wilgy's claim felt most like it was made without agenda. Like he felt like a townie thinking it was better not to give anything up, but accepting he needed to to clear himself.
Ted was just like 'oh lol actually I'm 3P'.
Please don't check me as I would then have to google some Joe Pesci quotes.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:42 pmMaybe.Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pmCheck MR tonight?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:39 pm My tinfoil hat radio messages say MR is desperate to get out of the box he finds himself in. I don’t think that’s actually what’s happening but it’s hard to not see it.
Eh.
It’s him or Wilgy in all probability.
i'm saying that rn i have too many false positives on me for people to believe me and wilgy is my last shot of achieving my wincon through dayplay.Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:43 pmbut your plea entails you bagging us a wolf, so we couldn't block you in any scenario where you stay alivetedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:42 pm if you guys are so scared of me, then just put blockers on me and i promise i won't even bus drive myself or do anything
just yeet wilgy, it's my last shot of achieving my wincon and i am acknowledging it.
you have more reasons to believe my action choices to be lining up with my role claim, whereas wilgy is just caught up in a lie without any sort of doubt.
WHAT? I CAN’T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF THE MECH!Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:42 pmI was the one who created a narrow PoE on like D4/D5.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:41 pmThe “role madness has cut the poe down to nothing so I’m gonna continually say only Tony and Jack should be confirmed and beg confusion” box.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pmWhat box do you think I'm in?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:39 pm My tinfoil hat radio messages say MR is desperate to get out of the box he finds himself in. I don’t think that’s actually what’s happening but it’s hard to not see it.
So you won't achieve your wincon on me. Yeeting me hinders town.tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:46 pmi'm saying that rn i have too many false positives on me for people to believe me and wilgy is my last shot of achieving my wincon through dayplay.Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:43 pmbut your plea entails you bagging us a wolf, so we couldn't block you in any scenario where you stay alivetedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:42 pm if you guys are so scared of me, then just put blockers on me and i promise i won't even bus drive myself or do anything
just yeet wilgy, it's my last shot of achieving my wincon and i am acknowledging it.
you have more reasons to believe my action choices to be lining up with my role claim, whereas wilgy is just caught up in a lie without any sort of doubt.
it sucks for me to suck so bad and not find that ship but at least give me a last chance, the probability of wilgy being a villager is sooooo low.
