The Syndicate

Golden wrote:I appreciate the sentiment from people who think I'd make a good prefect, but it's definitely worth taking a hard pass on giving it to me this time.

Glorfindel wrote:Working on the assumption that a 'Prefect' is a position of some significant authority and influence, can anyone explain to me why Golden only has one vote? I mean SERIOUSLY? He was (is?) The Syndicate's representative at the Mafia Championships. He won a s#*^load of awards on this site this year (including The Syndicate MVP). He has demonstrated an ability for intelligent analysis and shown that he has the courage of his convictions (from my experience of him in Arkham Mafia). On top of all that, he's just a really nice guy... If anyone out there is still undecided, I'll be voting for him and for the reasons stated, I think you should too.

This is a mafia game, not a job interview. We are judging whether people are civ or bad.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:Working on the assumption that a 'Prefect' is a position of some significant authority and influence, can anyone explain to me why Golden only has one vote? I mean SERIOUSLY? He was (is?) The Syndicate's representative at the Mafia Championships. He won a s#*^load of awards on this site this year (including The Syndicate MVP). He has demonstrated an ability for intelligent analysis and shown that he has the courage of his convictions (from my experience of him in Arkham Mafia). On top of all that, he's just a really nice guy... If anyone out there is still undecided, I'll be voting for him and for the reasons stated, I think you should too.

This is a mafia game, not a job interview. We are judging whether people are civ or bad.

and remember folks, nothing says trustworthy civilian like banners

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:Working on the assumption that a 'Prefect' is a position of some significant authority and influence, can anyone explain to me why Golden only has one vote? I mean SERIOUSLY? He was (is?) The Syndicate's representative at the Mafia Championships. He won a s#*^load of awards on this site this year (including The Syndicate MVP). He has demonstrated an ability for intelligent analysis and shown that he has the courage of his convictions (from my experience of him in Arkham Mafia). On top of all that, he's just a really nice guy... If anyone out there is still undecided, I'll be voting for him and for the reasons stated, I think you should too.

This is a mafia game, not a job interview. We are judging whether people are civ or bad.

At this point, I have no reason at all to think that Golden is anything other than Civilian then. Do you?

insertnamehere wrote:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:Working on the assumption that a 'Prefect' is a position of some significant authority and influence, can anyone explain to me why Golden only has one vote? I mean SERIOUSLY? He was (is?) The Syndicate's representative at the Mafia Championships. He won a s#*^load of awards on this site this year (including The Syndicate MVP). He has demonstrated an ability for intelligent analysis and shown that he has the courage of his convictions (from my experience of him in Arkham Mafia). On top of all that, he's just a really nice guy... If anyone out there is still undecided, I'll be voting for him and for the reasons stated, I think you should too.

This is a mafia game, not a job interview. We are judging whether people are civ or bad.

and remember folks, nothing says trustworthy civilian like banners

Don't listen to this guy right here. He may have raised more capital for marketing and gotten more endorsements from corporations but I'm the grassroots prefect here. I will fight for the less confident civs- those that have felt disenfranchised, and don't want to prove their civness. This may be Day 0, but none of you are 0's to me. No sirree. I need a small push from those out there that are on the fence. Don't give in to the big talkers and panhandlers. I'm the man that can fix the engine.

Glorfindel wrote:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:Working on the assumption that a 'Prefect' is a position of some significant authority and influence, can anyone explain to me why Golden only has one vote? I mean SERIOUSLY? He was (is?) The Syndicate's representative at the Mafia Championships. He won a s#*^load of awards on this site this year (including The Syndicate MVP). He has demonstrated an ability for intelligent analysis and shown that he has the courage of his convictions (from my experience of him in Arkham Mafia). On top of all that, he's just a really nice guy... If anyone out there is still undecided, I'll be voting for him and for the reasons stated, I think you should too.

This is a mafia game, not a job interview. We are judging whether people are civ or bad.

At this point, I have no reason at all to think that Golden is anything other than Civilian then. Do you?

You don't need a reason, all you need is paranoia. He could be bad, therefore you should thread carefully. Everybody could be.

Point is: the question you should be asking is not "is Golden a better civ player than the rest?". It is "Is Golden more likely to be civ than the rest?"

Can you answer that question?

Also I can't believe this is day 0 and I'm already talking about Golden. Fuck me.

Who do you feel is more likely to be civilian than the mean as of right now, DDL?

No strong civ/bad reads here, but if I had to pick... I guess Glorfindel is giving me a good vibe, like hs is being honest, though that might be because I've lynched him for saying things I disagreed with heavily before, so I'm kind of used to his meta. But I don't know what bad Glorfindel looks like so... yeah.

Also Eloh questioned me and that felt sincere too.

I dunno, to early to say anything strongly.

Turnip Head wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:My votes will go to two players who show me that they have the desire and the motivation to work for the greater good. Inspire me, and bring honor to your family.

Somehow I'll make a man out of you.

Turnip Head thus far is my favorite player.

Getting a good vibe from JJJ...glad I voted for them.

Well I may end up going for the ladies like Sorsha suggested, particularly Eloh and Niju since they've expressed interest. One of my votes might still go to JJJ but it's not really set in stone -- I really do think he'd be great if he's civ, but that is admittedly a dangerous assumption to make. Also might consider Scotty, I think he'd be a good fit too and his Hamilton references might win me over.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:No strong civ/bad reads here, but if I had to pick... I guess Glorfindel is giving me a good vibe, like hs is being honest, though that might be because I've lynched him for saying things I disagreed with heavily before, so I'm kind of used to his meta. But I don't know what bad Glorfindel looks like so... yeah.

Also Eloh questioned me and that felt sincere too.

I dunno, to early to say anything strongly.

Is insertnamehere more likely to be civilian than the mean?

Nope, but my vote was pretty much a joke vote.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:JJJ, why would you be happy to serve as prefect?

It sounds fun. I trust myself more than I trust other people. I'm confident that I'll maintain as consistent an active presence in this game as I always do.

This makes me ok with you being prefect, for the same reason I'll be voting Sig (as promised) and myself.

I do think it would be best to place prefects being players that can read each other well. A means of checks and balances, perhaps I came to this thought abit to late.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:No strong civ/bad reads here, but if I had to pick... I guess Glorfindel is giving me a good vibe, like hs is being honest, though that might be because I've lynched him for saying things I disagreed with heavily before, so I'm kind of used to his meta. But I don't know what bad Glorfindel looks like so... yeah.

Also Eloh questioned me and that felt sincere too.

I dunno, to early to say anything strongly.

Is insertnamehere more likely to be civilian than the mean?

Are you?

Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

Because he skipped the rules section on page one. Lol

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

Because he skipped the rules section on page one. Lol

The rules say that self-voting is permitted, but it doesn't seem like a very Jay thing to do to give himself a potential reward.

Golden wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

Because he skipped the rules section on page one. Lol

The rules say that self-voting is permitted, but it doesn't seem like a very Jay thing to do to give himself a potential reward.

I disagree Golden.

I think what's actually most striking here is this "Why didn't everyone vote for themselves"?

Golden wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

Because he skipped the rules section on page one. Lol

The rules say that self-voting is permitted, but it doesn't seem like a very Jay thing to do to give himself a potential reward.

Little Jay has to get a grip!

None of you losers voted for me. Sad !

I'm the most qualified person to ever run for prefect. Make Prefects Great Again!

Turnip Head wrote:Prefect - (n) a chief officer, magistrate, or regional governor in certain countries.


Is anyone qualified for such a position? And if you are qualified, please explain your qualifications as creatively and amusingly as you can. My vote is up in the air.

I'm the greatest mafia player in history. Vote for me. Make The Syndicate Great Again.


Don't vote for Fake Scotty. He acts-- what a fake !


The establishment is a bunch of liars. Lyin' Turnip Head and Crooked Sorshs

Vote Dom 2016.
Get the establishment pigs out!

(c) Paid for by Dom/Nju 2016.

Dom wrote:

Golden wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

Because he skipped the rules section on page one. Lol

The rules say that self-voting is permitted, but it doesn't seem like a very Jay thing to do to give himself a potential reward.

Little Jay has to get a grip!

Hi Dom. U bad again?

Damnit, I wish I could switch my vote to Dom. He says the things that everyone else is too afraid to say.

Turnip Head wrote:Damnit, I wish I could switch my vote to Dom. He says the things that everyone else is too afraid to say.

Like #harambe2016?

DrWilgy wrote:

Dom wrote:

Golden wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

Because he skipped the rules section on page one. Lol

The rules say that self-voting is permitted, but it doesn't seem like a very Jay thing to do to give himself a potential reward.

Little Jay has to get a grip!

Hi Dom. U bad again?

Me? Bad? I'm the greatest there ever was.

Scotty is the single greatest threat to this website! He's an actor! He lies!

Dom wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Dom wrote:

Golden wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

Because he skipped the rules section on page one. Lol

The rules say that self-voting is permitted, but it doesn't seem like a very Jay thing to do to give himself a potential reward.

Little Jay has to get a grip!

Hi Dom. U bad again?

Me? Bad? I'm the greatest there ever was.

Scotty is the single greatest threat to this website! He's an actor! He lies!

It's not lying, you dominatrix.

It's telling the truth under imaginary circumstances.

DrWilgy wrote:

Golden wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

Because he skipped the rules section on page one. Lol

The rules say that self-voting is permitted, but it doesn't seem like a very Jay thing to do to give himself a potential reward.

I disagree Golden.

I think what's actually most striking here is this "Why didn't everyone vote for themselves"?

No - I mean, I'd expect it from a Wilgy. It seems odd from a Jay. Particular a Jay in a close contest for the lead.

I've got an idea though - how about others stop speaking for Jay, because I want to hear what he has to say about it.

Dom wrote:None of you losers voted for me. Sad !

I'm the most qualified person to ever run for prefect. Make Prefects Great Again!

Turnip Head wrote:Prefect - (n) a chief officer, magistrate, or regional governor in certain countries.


Is anyone qualified for such a position? And if you are qualified, please explain your qualifications as creatively and amusingly as you can. My vote is up in the air.

I'm the greatest mafia player in history. Vote for me. Make The Syndicate Great Again.


Don't vote for Fake Scotty. He acts-- what a fake !


The establishment is a bunch of liars. Lyin' Turnip Head and Crooked Sorshs

Vote Dom 2016.
Get the establishment pigs out!

(c) Paid for by Dom/Nju 2016.

Why is ninja paying for your election campaign?

Golden wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Golden wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

Because he skipped the rules section on page one. Lol

The rules say that self-voting is permitted, but it doesn't seem like a very Jay thing to do to give himself a potential reward.

I disagree Golden.

I think what's actually most striking here is this "Why didn't everyone vote for themselves"?

No - I mean, I'd expect it from a Wilgy. It seems odd from a Jay. Particular a Jay in a close contest for the lead.

I've got an idea though - how about others stop speaking for Jay, because I want to hear what he has to say about it.

Speak for Jay? Was that my intention?

I think i am going to vote for Scotty like i said late last night and I am also going to vote for INH because banners. And i am still not convinced on the JJJ vote

Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

I think I'm suited for the task and I got sick of all the anti-me paranoia. I'm not really seeing much to instill confidence about other people anyway. Perhaps I'm arrogant, but oh well. I also expected to be gone through the deadline, but apparently me and sleep don't mix right now.

Voting now because I don't trust myself to remember in the morning. Going with Eloh and Niju

OK, the deadline beckons... The leading wagons right now are 3J and INH on 7 votes with Scotty on 6 votes. All I have to go on is my experience of these players from previous games. In my latest game here (Battlestar Galactica) 3J defended me when no one else would so he'll get one of my votes. From my recollection insertnamehere did vote to lynch me and wouldn't believe me that I was Town so he's not getting my vote. That leaves me with Scotty who'd left the game by the time 'the debacle' occurred and as 3J voted for him here and insertnamehere hasn't, I'm happy to give my remaining vote to him.

Thank you Dunny and Glorfindel! Your contribution will not go unnoticed.


I hope this means prefects will be NK proof.

With my luck, it'll probably be something like "You will die in the place of someone else in your faction when they are to be killed". Butcha knowut? That's ok, its what I signed up for. Like trick or treating at s house lacking lights and decorations: could be that sweet old lady with giant candy bars or it could be old man Fargas whose wife disappeared mysteriously last week and is giving out apples filled with razor blades.

nijuukyugou wrote:

Boomslang wrote:

Scotty wrote:Checking in, and boy do those treasures look tasty.

There's a fabled sword, rare tomes of wisdom, exquisite sculptures... and a bag of tea. Someone's getting shafted :P But yay game!

By the fabled sword, of course! Mmmm, tea.

I will also be ridiculously busy, but if y'all wanna vote me, whatever. I'm a leader and such, at least of high school-aged children I'm gonna vote INH because Steve Buscemi, and Spacedaisy because I had to drop out of her game, and she's awesome and leader-y.

There. Did it. Yes.

Also, because I'm sad I missed my chance, this is what happens when you type "Steve Buscemi eyes" into Google images:

You're welcome for the nightmares.

Who still hasn't checked in?

Dom wrote:None of you losers voted for me. Sad !

I'm the most qualified person to ever run for prefect. Make Prefects Great Again!

Turnip Head wrote:Prefect - (n) a chief officer, magistrate, or regional governor in certain countries.


Is anyone qualified for such a position? And if you are qualified, please explain your qualifications as creatively and amusingly as you can. My vote is up in the air.

I'm the greatest mafia player in history. Vote for me. Make The Syndicate Great Again.


Don't vote for Fake Scotty. He acts-- what a fake !


The establishment is a bunch of liars. Lyin' Turnip Head and Crooked Sorshs

Vote Dom 2016.
Get the establishment pigs out!

(c) Paid for by Dom/Nju 2016.

Also,

If I had held my vote long enough, this would have won it for sure.

I don't see anything wrong or, more significantly, out of character with JJJ voting himself, by the way. Let's not forget that this is the guy who said this:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think we made the best decision I was able to come up with. That's all we can ask for in any lynch.

I am insufferable.

FIVE PAGES!!!! And Day 0 still has hours before it's over.

I swear y'all should go to 100 posts per page. I'm not even into page 3! Obviously the thread is the same length, but it feels less overwhelming to me when I look down at the page clickers.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I swear y'all should go to 100 posts per page. I'm not even into page 3! Obviously the thread is the same length, but it feels less overwhelming to me when I look down at the page clickers.

You know, I think I'm going to do that. Never have considered it before, but now that I'm playing with less time it might psychologically assist in making the thread seem less intimidating.

Glorfindel wrote:OK, the deadline beckons... The leading wagons right now are 3J and INH on 7 votes with Scotty on 6 votes. All I have to go on is my experience of these players from previous games. In my latest game here (Battlestar Galactica) 3J defended me when no one else would so he'll get one of my votes. From my recollection insertnamehere did vote to lynch me and wouldn't believe me that I was Town so he's not getting my vote. That leaves me with Scotty who'd left the game by the time 'the debacle' occurred and as 3J voted for him here and insertnamehere hasn't, I'm happy to give my remaining vote to him.

If it makes you feel better, I was a weird rogue indie in that game who simply wanted to not have as much attention as possible. Plus I replaced in after 200 pages of posts that I really didn't want to comb through. Look at me not as a wrong civilian, but as a crafty independent, and you'll be closer to the truth for that game.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

I think I'm suited for the task and I got sick of all the anti-me paranoia. I'm not really seeing much to instill confidence about other people anyway. Perhaps I'm arrogant, but oh well. I also expected to be gone through the deadline, but apparently me and sleep don't mix right now.

Jay, I have a question for you.

Here you noted you got sick of anti-you paranoia. Did you think any player's paranoia was specifically either or both: (I) particularly illogical or unwarranted; (II) suspicious at face value?

insertnamehere wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:OK, the deadline beckons... The leading wagons right now are 3J and INH on 7 votes with Scotty on 6 votes. All I have to go on is my experience of these players from previous games. In my latest game here (Battlestar Galactica) 3J defended me when no one else would so he'll get one of my votes. From my recollection insertnamehere did vote to lynch me and wouldn't believe me that I was Town so he's not getting my vote. That leaves me with Scotty who'd left the game by the time 'the debacle' occurred and as 3J voted for him here and insertnamehere hasn't, I'm happy to give my remaining vote to him.

If it makes you feel better, I was a weird rogue indie in that game who simply wanted to not have as much attention as possible. Plus I replaced in after 200 pages of posts that I really didn't want to comb through. Look at me not as a wrong civilian, but as a crafty independent, and you'll be closer to the truth for that game.

I don't think Glorfindel's selection process was logical or based on the merits of this game, but I don't think anyone else's really was either; and, further, I think the ramifications of this poll have yet to be determined.

So I would also like to hear more from DDL on why he was harping on that and whether he found anyone suspicious for Day 0 activity.

Furthermore, does anyone have any suspicions based on the available content? Let's get this game going. Someone throw something out there if you have it.

DrWilgy wrote:

Golden wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

Because he skipped the rules section on page one. Lol

The rules say that self-voting is permitted, but it doesn't seem like a very Jay thing to do to give himself a potential reward.

I disagree Golden.

I think what's actually most striking here is this "Why didn't everyone vote for themselves"?

Because some Prefect candidates are decent, hardworking people who aren't egotistically giving themselves an extra boost by voting for themselves. Some honorable, principled Prefect candidates want to win simply on their own merits! Crooked 3J over there already revealed his priorities with his vote: ME, ME, ME. Whereas some extremely intelligent and attractive candidates have been voted for BY THE PEOPLE and will work tirelessly FOR THE PEOPLE.

insertnamehere wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Golden wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

Because he skipped the rules section on page one. Lol

The rules say that self-voting is permitted, but it doesn't seem like a very Jay thing to do to give himself a potential reward.

I disagree Golden.

I think what's actually most striking here is this "Why didn't everyone vote for themselves"?

Because some Prefect candidates are decent, hardworking people who aren't egotistically giving themselves an extra boost by voting for themselves. Some honorable, principled Prefect candidates want to win simply on their own merits! Crooked 3J over there already revealed his priorities with his vote: ME, ME, ME. Whereas some extremely intelligent and attractive candidates have been voted for BY THE PEOPLE and will work tirelessly FOR THE PEOPLE.

Au contraire por favor.

I think a self vote is admirable because a) it adheres to the rules and b) it shows confidence in yourself. Your votes for other people tells me you would far rather other people have this position over you.

I think I am a good candidate and voted myself as such. It seems other people agreed with me.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

I think I'm suited for the task and I got sick of all the anti-me paranoia. I'm not really seeing much to instill confidence about other people anyway. Perhaps I'm arrogant, but oh well. I also expected to be gone through the deadline, but apparently me and sleep don't mix right now.

Jay, I have a question for you.

Here you noted you got sick of anti-you paranoia. Did you think any player's paranoia was specifically either or both: (I) particularly illogical or unwarranted; (II) suspicious at face value?

I) I would say it is illogical yes, but still understandable. It comes with the territory when I play the way I play.

II) I've been considering this though Day 0. The prevailing narrative has been that I am a civilian asset and a dangerous baddie, so it might not be worth the risk of putting power in my hands. What hasn't been acknowledged is that this works both ways -- baddies can have the same ulterior motive to resist me receiving power as a townie that I could have as a baddie myself pursuing that power. I've decided though that I don't think it's suspicious. Those who promoted this perspective the most (DDL, Bass, and Scotty perhaps among others) did so in such a way that it appears more like genuine paranoia than an underhanded tactic to weaken my influence. If someone out there is a bad guy trying to acquire power, I think it's more likely he/she/they'd be among the people making a show of their candidacy (banners, Trump impersonations, etc).

Scotty wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Golden wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?

Because he skipped the rules section on page one. Lol

The rules say that self-voting is permitted, but it doesn't seem like a very Jay thing to do to give himself a potential reward.

I disagree Golden.

I think what's actually most striking here is this "Why didn't everyone vote for themselves"?

Because some Prefect candidates are decent, hardworking people who aren't egotistically giving themselves an extra boost by voting for themselves. Some honorable, principled Prefect candidates want to win simply on their own merits! Crooked 3J over there already revealed his priorities with his vote: ME, ME, ME. Whereas some extremely intelligent and attractive candidates have been voted for BY THE PEOPLE and will work tirelessly FOR THE PEOPLE.

Au contraire por favor.

I think a self vote is admirable because a) it adheres to the rules and b) it shows confidence in yourself. Your votes for other people tells me you would far rather other people have this position over you.

I think I am a good candidate and voted myself as such. It seems other people agreed with me.

Maybe it just means that I care about people OTHER than myself, and am willing to REDISTRIBUTE THE WEALTH.

VOTE INSERTNAMEHERE

HE WORKS FOR THE PEOPLE - NOT HIMSELF