The Syndicate

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:

Scotty wrote:Yeah, this might be a surprise tribal result for Atamai.

I have no idea how Mamana is going to shake out.

If someone they vote for has the immunity idol does that mean nobody gets voted off or the person with the next number of votes gets voted off?

As per the show, the person with the next highest number leaves.

And I guess nobody goes if it's unanimous for the person with the idol? Or is there some other mechanic that happens?

In that case, ties are randomized.

Meaning, anyone with 0 votes will go home

Also...this is a spoiler for what's about to most likely go down, but:

Spoiler: show

insertnamehere wrote:I guess it all seems a little contrived how Quin came into the thread, stirred up a whole bunch of shit out of nowhere, and put a massive target on his back.

Quin wasn't really on anybody's radar until after the Reward Challenge, when he barged in like a bull in a china shop.

And there's a Hidden Immunity Idol nobody knows about...

Connecting the dots, I can't help but feel suspicious of how you guys are acting. I'm worried you're going to take out DH, Elo, or Lorab.

Oh wow. Drama coming!

I have a feeling everyone is not telling the truth about their powers over in Mamana since Faraday says he lost part of his when Elo joined his tribe. I wonder if the strength people still have strength and the puzzle people still have puzzle powers, etc.

juliets wrote:I have a feeling everyone is not telling the truth about their powers over in Mamana since Faraday says he lost part of his when Elo joined his tribe. I wonder if the strength people still have strength and the puzzle people still have puzzle powers, etc.

Indeed.

If I were playing this game I would be puzzling out what roles hadn't been discovered/dumped yet and looking for cracks and possibilities. If there is a healer, that would probably mean there's a sickener...etc

I'm not sure what Epi keep rambling about with his talk of gaining BTSC with the other tribe. He has no such power, but given that he's sent in actions out of turn multiple times, I'm wondering whether or not he truly believes he does..

How odd. I wonder why he would think that.

It might be based on the BTSC he earned this past day phase. Everyone was assigned BTSC with someone in their tribe during the day. Epignosis was the odd person out in his tribe, so he was given the option to pick the player he gained BTSC with.

Marmot wrote:It might be based on the BTSC he earned this past day phase. Everyone was assigned BTSC with someone in their tribe during the day. Epignosis was the odd person out in his tribe, so he was given the option to pick the player he gained BTSC with.

I guess...so...

But he already used that yesterday.

Scotty wrote:

Marmot wrote:It might be based on the BTSC he earned this past day phase. Everyone was assigned BTSC with someone in their tribe during the day. Epignosis was the odd person out in his tribe, so he was given the option to pick the player he gained BTSC with.

I guess...so...

But he already used that yesterday.

Yeah he just admitted he only got it once. He must have some talent other than that. I wonder why he doesn't want to disclose - unless he's the poisoner.

Scotty wrote:

Marmot wrote:It might be based on the BTSC he earned this past day phase. Everyone was assigned BTSC with someone in their tribe during the day. Epignosis was the odd person out in his tribe, so he was given the option to pick the player he gained BTSC with.

I guess...so...

But he already used that yesterday.

Yeah, still misinterpreted.

Or just lying out his ass on purpose.

No lie- every time I see the Mamana tribe name I read it as Manamana, as in the tune Mahna Mahna. Makes me smile every time.

Bullshit tbqh

DharmaHelper wrote:Bullshit tbqh

That's rough man. You were giving it your all more than anyone ever.

Marmot wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Bullshit tbqh

That's rough man. You were giving it your all more than anyone ever.

I figured he had the idol, I just didn't feel like pulling the trigger on a switch.

SVS Knew he had the idol and let me go on thinking we were mending fences. I see how it is.

Them's the breaks man, I'm so sorry you were bamboozled like that. I was rooting for the king!

DharmaHelper wrote:SVS Knew he had the idol and let me go on thinking we were mending fences. I see how it is.

She told me via PM to tell you she feels real bad about it.

And yeah, she knew all along..she has had a tight bond with Quin since Day 1.

Scotty wrote:Them's the breaks man, I'm so sorry you were bamboozled like that. I was rooting for the king!

DharmaHelper wrote:SVS Knew he had the idol and let me go on thinking we were mending fences. I see how it is.

She told me via PM to tell you she feels real bad about it.

And yeah, she knew all along..she has had a tight bond with Quin since Day 1.

All the best villains know when to lose, I had a good run and had all the fun I wanted to.

Also, had our challenge been for immunity I would have been fine. Had we not been swapped I had Mamana eating out of my hand so I would have been fine.

Like many of the best players, my circumstances undid me.

My prediction for the rest of the game:

Lorab, Golden, Opt and Chuck are a strong group. I think they'll make it far. If Mamana was smart they'd take advantage of the fact that Quin burned his idol on me.

Also, I'll just add this:

I had a real good time playing this game, probably because it was LMS format with basically open BTSC, which might be the only game I'm down to play consistently at this point. I really didn't want to win as much as I wanted to give you guys a good show and have a good time. Figure I did that.

bye bye king

I wish I had seem the conversation before the lynch at Mamana. I'm not sure why Long Con got the boot. I figured it would probably be DH at Atami.

I'm also kinda sorry the tribes merged- I was enjoying the team competitions.

DharmaHelper wrote:My prediction for the rest of the game:

Lorab, Golden, Opt and Chuck are a strong group. I think they'll make it far. If Mamana was smart they'd take advantage of the fact that Quin burned his idol on me.

Also, I'll just add this:

I had a real good time playing this game, probably because it was LMS format with basically open BTSC, which might be the only game I'm down to play consistently at this point. I really didn't want to win as much as I wanted to give you guys a good show and have a good time. Figure I did that.

You were extremely entertaining! And that's an understatement.

If I was playing this game, I most certainly would have bashed heads with you from the start. But as an observer, the entertainment value was high! Just the kind of thing they'd probably like on a real Survivor show. High ratings all around!

Interesting Scotty did you decide not to give them any clues because they are sharing the clues they have? Also, any idea why LC got booted out? I didn't get to see what conversation that group had leading up to the vote.

juliets wrote:Interesting Scotty did you decide not to give them any clues because they are sharing the clues they have? Also, any idea why LC got booted out? I didn't get to see what conversation that group had leading up to the vote.

It was getting late last night and I'm running on little sleep- it was a rash decision to add that little bit about revealing all the clues last night. Upon sleeping on it, I realized I didn't want to do that after all. I really should just stick to the script.

As for why LC got voted off:

So I made a decision to cut off sharing of fish in the merged tribe strictly for balancing purposes. I felt that roles that already gave away fish were undermined and the sense of urgency in acquiring food is simply not there.

I never had sharing of fish as an option, but SVS asked on Day 1 and in the midst of everything, I acquiesced. Then I had to make it a rule across the board since I gave her that option. But because I want there to be more percussive mafia elements in the game, I feel like it's needed for balance.

In case anyone asks.

This game is hard to balance with all the role powers- I mean shit, I threw away probably 20 other roles in crafting this setup- and as far as I can see, I think this is fair for some people.


What's most interesting to me is the roles that have a helpful function but not so much a maligned ability players will want to keep around. Makes sense. But should they keep them till the end? Might make for an easy case to hand them the win, since they were so helpful.

Lots to think about if I were playing. But I'm not. I'm Morgan Freeman. From Evan Almighty, not Shawshank

DharmaHelper wrote:Also, had our challenge been for immunity I would have been fine. Had we not been swapped I had Mamana eating out of my hand so I would have been fine.

Like many of the best players, my circumstances undid me.

I agree- you and the rest of the original Mamana tribe seemed pretty tight. If Quin had gone home, and how things unfolded in new Mamana, you all had majority and the rest would have been a Pagonging of sorts.

I really wanted you to stay, but you gotta admit- Quin played you well and you all ate right from his hand. I wish y'all had heeded INH's growing concern. Hell, I wish even he had heeded his own concern. But alas

Scotty wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Also, had our challenge been for immunity I would have been fine. Had we not been swapped I had Mamana eating out of my hand so I would have been fine.

Like many of the best players, my circumstances undid me.

I agree- you and the rest of the original Mamana tribe seemed pretty tight. If Quin had gone home, and how things unfolded in new Mamana, you all had majority and the rest would have been a Pagonging of sorts.

I really wanted you to stay, but you gotta admit- Quin played you well and you all ate right from his hand. I wish y'all had heeded INH's growing concern. Hell, I wish even he had heeded his own concern. But alas

I was sure someone would catch on when Quinn didn't come back to the thread yesterday (at least while I was awake).

Oh I knew he was going to use the idol. Just, like I said, I didn't feel like switching targets. Also it all worked out for the best since this fuckawful storm knocked power out here all day.

DharmaHelper wrote:Oh I knew he was going to use the idol. Just, like I said, I didn't feel like switching targets. Also it all worked out for the best since this fuckawful storm knocked power out here all day.

To clarify, I knew he had t he idol because of his actions in the thread, INH's suspicions, and SVS slipped up multiple times in our btsc when talking about the idol as if she knew where it was .

Scotty wrote:So I made a decision to cut off sharing of fish in the merged tribe strictly for balancing purposes. I felt that roles that already gave away fish were undermined and the sense of urgency in acquiring food is simply not there.

I never had sharing of fish as an option, but SVS asked on Day 1 and in the midst of everything, I acquiesced. Then I had to make it a rule across the board since I gave her that option. But because I want there to be more percussive mafia elements in the game, I feel like it's needed for balance.

In case anyone asks.

This game is hard to balance with all the role powers- I mean shit, I threw away probably 20 other roles in crafting this setup- and as far as I can see, I think this is fair for some people.


What's most interesting to me is the roles that have a helpful function but not so much a maligned ability players will want to keep around. Makes sense. But should they keep them till the end? Might make for an easy case to hand them the win, since they were so helpful.

Lots to think about if I were playing. But I'm not. I'm Morgan Freeman. From Evan Almighty, not Shawshank

Sorsha's role becomes a lot less helpful since there is no fish sharing but then again, I guess it's not helpful to have strength or puzzle solving or any of those things anymore from a team standpoint. It will be interesting to see what becomes the social currency (at the moment it seems to be "sharing"). Looks like a lot of strategizing will get done in bts.

If targeting me was really about the Negan stuff and not because I'm me, SVS and her crew should be targeting Sawyer next, whose avatar has been since Day 1 a picture of Negan's bat.

Also if anyone from my former tribe is smart, they'll pick up the bat in my place and go to town. I want to see blood on the beach, baby. Heads've gotta roll. Where's the spine? Where's the fire? How're they expecting to win big if the have no flare?

One thing I remember from Last Man Standing Mafia that was hosted here:

The game was reduced to four players: 3 women and 1 man. The women congregated to erase the lone man to keep the remaining players alive all female.

I'm curious to see if a similar thing happens here.

Marmot wrote:One thing I remember from Last Man Standing Mafia that was hosted here:

The game was reduced to four players: 3 women and 1 man. The women congregated to erase the lone man to keep the remaining players alive all female.

I'm curious to see if a similar thing happens here.

I'm just sayin' if there's a hidden rezz mechanic, I'm right here

Marmot wrote:One thing I remember from Last Man Standing Mafia that was hosted here:

The game was reduced to four players: 3 women and 1 man. The women congregated to erase the lone man to keep the remaining players alive all female.

I'm curious to see if a similar thing happens here.

I think nobody has their eye on the ball right now, it's all Kumbaya this and Yay Merge that. Nobody's playing to win, and that's gonna cost people in the end. If it's a lady's alliance then the men have no excuse.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Marmot wrote:One thing I remember from Last Man Standing Mafia that was hosted here:

The game was reduced to four players: 3 women and 1 man. The women congregated to erase the lone man to keep the remaining players alive all female.

I'm curious to see if a similar thing happens here.

I think nobody has their eye on the ball right now, it's all Kumbaya this and Yay Merge that. Nobody's playing to win, and that's gonna cost people in the end. If it's a lady's alliance then the men have no excuse.

It's gonna have to change eventually. I agree. Someone's gonna get voted off tonight, and priorities will have to change.

What I like about this game, is that people aren't being voted off for being blunt, or male, or some other personal trait. They're voted off because they're inactive, useless to the tribe, or out of self-preservation. It's far more strategic.

Plus, there are the BTSC rooms, where all sorts of crazy things are happening.

I still maintain, as a neutral observer at this point, the best move is to get Quin out ASAP. Like it or not, using his idol to get me out makes him a contender to go to the end. Somebody's gonna have to punch his ticket or hand him the win.

Marmot wrote:One thing I remember from Last Man Standing Mafia that was hosted here:

The game was reduced to four players: 3 women and 1 man. The women congregated to erase the lone man to keep the remaining players alive all female.

I'm curious to see if a similar thing happens here.

What game was this Marmot?

DharmaHelper wrote:If targeting me was really about the Negan stuff and not because I'm me, SVS and her crew should be targeting Sawyer next, whose avatar has been since Day 1 a picture of Negan's bat.

sawyer has had that as his avatar though since he came here. It's not new for this game.

juliets wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:If targeting me was really about the Negan stuff and not because I'm me, SVS and her crew should be targeting Sawyer next, whose avatar has been since Day 1 a picture of Negan's bat.

sawyer has had that as his avatar though since he came here. It's not new for this game.

Still

I hope there's a Survivor II because a villain is always more dangerous the second time around

juliets wrote:

Marmot wrote:One thing I remember from Last Man Standing Mafia that was hosted here:

The game was reduced to four players: 3 women and 1 man. The women congregated to erase the lone man to keep the remaining players alive all female.

I'm curious to see if a similar thing happens here.

What game was this Marmot?

Oh wait, I see - it was called the Last Man Standing Mafia.

juliets wrote:

juliets wrote:

Marmot wrote:One thing I remember from Last Man Standing Mafia that was hosted here:

The game was reduced to four players: 3 women and 1 man. The women congregated to erase the lone man to keep the remaining players alive all female.

I'm curious to see if a similar thing happens here.

What game was this Marmot?

Oh wait, I see - it was called the Last Man Standing Mafia.

Yup! Enrique hosted it! Man he's hosted some good games.

The funny part of that story. Bass_the_Clever was the last man alive in that situation, and Roxy (his mother) was one of the women.

I think Golden's got a good chance of winning, even if his time zone is a hindrance in the challenges.

Looks like they've got another easy vote today.

Reading through some of these BTSC chats I'm amazed that a few people aren't putting two and two together when it comes to role appropriation.

Listen, if you know anything about Survivor, you'll probably want to look at what the players did and why I would include them in the game. There's a lot to mirror. Granted, there's a few elements that make no sense for characters, but I'm still surprised that the threat of...say...the Crazy Hillbilly...is going unchecked.

Most of the talk is in the chats now, dear spectators, and I can assure you that everyone is trying to make backroom deals with each other. Because this is only a glimpse in a 1v1 chat, I don't know what everyone is thinking.

Except DH lol. He PMd me his ultimate strategy as he went along.

Should be an easy vote today. Key word "should".


Also to note: It's the merge, which means from here on out, survivors voted out will become part of the Jury. This will be a separate sub forum called "Ponderosa" to deliberate independently from outside sources. I'll let us observe them from the outside and we can talk about that here, but you won't be allowed to post there.

At this stage, it is up to the Jury to determine who they think deserves to win the game. So there's still participation past being voted out.

Oh thats great - I'm glad we get to see it (the jury thread). I hate that all the talk is taking place in btsc from the thread peeps.

juliets wrote:Oh thats great - I'm glad we get to see it (the jury thread). I hate that all the talk is taking place in btsc from the thread peeps.

A lot of this game is made up of hidden information and commitments.

If I were as active as I could be, I'd be relaying that here.

The pitfalls of looking into each BTSC is that, because people are pledging to each other similar final 5, 4, 3 deals, I don't know what they're really planning.

It would seem that Epi and Elo are going to be a threat down the line.
There is talk that Golden, Sorsha and Opt are looking to form a final 3, but Golden has also talked to Quin as if to bring him into the Mamana circle. Quin is throwing SVS to the curb in his convo with Golden.
INH forgot to send in his BTSC requests, so who knows what he's doing.

As of right now, because of the reward on Day 4, only Golden is left sick. When no one is sick, how useful will DF be to the tribe, really?

Could be that original Atamai is about to be picked off one by one unless something happens. If notsawyer goes home like people are suggesting, that is..

Oh thanks Scotty thats some good juicy info. Can't believe Quin is going to throw over SVS after she stuck with him but I guess thats the way the game is played.

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:Oh thats great - I'm glad we get to see it (the jury thread). I hate that all the talk is taking place in btsc from the thread peeps.

A lot of this game is made up of hidden information and commitments.

If I were as active as I could be, I'd be relaying that here.

The pitfalls of looking into each BTSC is that, because people are pledging to each other similar final 5, 4, 3 deals, I don't know what they're really planning.

It would seem that Epi and Elo are going to be a threat down the line.
There is talk that Golden, Sorsha and Opt are looking to form a final 3, but Golden has also talked to Quin as if to bring him into the Mamana circle. Quin is throwing SVS to the curb in his convo with Golden.
INH forgot to send in his BTSC requests, so who knows what he's doing.

As of right now, because of the reward on Day 4, only Golden is left sick. When no one is sick, how useful will DF be to the tribe, really?

Could be that original Atamai is about to be picked off one by one unless something happens. If notsawyer goes home like people are suggesting, that is..

Golly jf Quin ends up betraying SVS that might just be the cherry on top of the game.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:Oh thats great - I'm glad we get to see it (the jury thread). I hate that all the talk is taking place in btsc from the thread peeps.

A lot of this game is made up of hidden information and commitments.

If I were as active as I could be, I'd be relaying that here.

The pitfalls of looking into each BTSC is that, because people are pledging to each other similar final 5, 4, 3 deals, I don't know what they're really planning.

It would seem that Epi and Elo are going to be a threat down the line.
There is talk that Golden, Sorsha and Opt are looking to form a final 3, but Golden has also talked to Quin as if to bring him into the Mamana circle. Quin is throwing SVS to the curb in his convo with Golden.
INH forgot to send in his BTSC requests, so who knows what he's doing.

As of right now, because of the reward on Day 4, only Golden is left sick. When no one is sick, how useful will DF be to the tribe, really?

Could be that original Atamai is about to be picked off one by one unless something happens. If notsawyer goes home like people are suggesting, that is..

Golly jf Quin ends up betraying SVS that might just be the cherry on top of the game.

It's all talk, so who really knows what he is going to do.