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Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:15 pm
by S~V~S
OK, thanks for the answer, INH. Then i will hold my vote and self vote (now I have read back, and see that it is not prohibited) if he does not come back. I feel bad leaving Nevinera hanging, and hope BWT comes back and i don't have to do it.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:17 pm
by S~V~S
Also Bye Elo, Hi Roxy <3

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:28 pm
by Kate
Svs I think you should just follow the plan.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:43 pm
by S~V~S
Why? I would rather be cleared with that vote on me.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:57 pm
by Nevinera
Hey, another thought ocurred to me. If we only give votes to, say 2/3 of the people, then if we get an nk, we have a good iea who it must be from.

I'm not sure if that's a good trade, just thought I'd mention it as a possible tactic.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:04 pm
by Kate
Because I'd rather have u not have a vote on You than nevernira. And look who pops up trying to change the plan... :rolleyes:

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:06 pm
by Kate
S~V~S wrote:Why? I would rather be cleared with that vote on me.
You would rather have a civ die just to clear your name?

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:23 pm
by S~V~S
You should be having this convo with BWT, not me.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:28 pm
by Kate
Not really no. It's your choice not to vote nev but rather vote yourself.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:29 pm
by S~V~S
And how does that save a civ?

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:30 pm
by Kate
Well I assume you claim to be civ and not possessed so you would not need the vote on you. Can you say the same for nev?

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:48 pm
by Nevinera
Kate wrote:Because I'd rather have u not have a vote on You than nevernira. And look who pops up trying to change the plan... :rolleyes:
Hey now, I wasn't trying to change the plan. A tactic like that wouldn't be useful until later, when it can have a chance of catching anyone.

Later on, you can get a vote on all but one person, and then if anyone dies you'll know they're evil. That'll let you lynch one person while checking on another.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:52 pm
by S~V~S
Kate wrote:Well I assume you claim to be civ and not possessed so you would not need the vote on you. Can you say the same for nev?

Ok, then I will voteforNevin, IF everyone else but me and him has a vote.

If not, then I vote me. Because I have played all of INHs games, and have participated in a lot of fail plans.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:02 pm
by Nevinera
Voted MovingPictures, in accordance with the plan..

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:59 pm
by Tangrowth
blindfaeth wrote:I don't really agree with the vote the person above tactic, yes if we all vote each other no one will be NKed, but the lynch will probably be randomly determined. I think nevinera had a good idea, have a couple people vote earlier on the suspicious ppl and everyone else vote others to spread the vote and prevent the NK. And that way too they might not kill even if they could because we would have essentially narrowed them down to one of only a couple players. Ill be back tomorrow morning to vote I suppose.
Who do you recommend is suspicious then? And why is that a better idea? This way we are ensuring that no one can possibly NK.

I'm sticking with the plan because I will be very busy tomorrow. votes Snow Dog

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:56 am
by birdwithteeth11
Sorry! I completely forgot to vote in the poll itself. An honest mistake, but I went ahead and corrected it.

And with that, I need to get to bed. For those of you who would be interested, Victor Wooten was even more amazing than both times I've seen him with the Flecktones. Of course, being at most a foot away from the man definitely helps. You missed out big time, Alex!

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:35 am
by Snow Dog
MovingPictures07 wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:I don't really agree with the vote the person above tactic, yes if we all vote each other no one will be NKed, but the lynch will probably be randomly determined. I think nevinera had a good idea, have a couple people vote earlier on the suspicious ppl and everyone else vote others to spread the vote and prevent the NK. And that way too they might not kill even if they could because we would have essentially narrowed them down to one of only a couple players. Ill be back tomorrow morning to vote I suppose.
Who do you recommend is suspicious then? And why is that a better idea? This way we are ensuring that no one can possibly NK.

I'm sticking with the plan because I will be very busy tomorrow. votes Snow Dog
I think the plan is flawed. Obviuosly, but I'd rather not back out now. I promised. But as Nev says in future we may have to leave a few unvoted. Doesn't mean to say anyone will NK anyway though if it is obvious.

I have a theory also. My theory is we are all white now and when we die we come back as a black.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:36 am
by Snow Dog
Oops, forgot Votes llama

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:29 am
by Snow Dog
Sorry for a third post. I think a spread vote is good but if there is someone we agree, or some of us agree, needs to be lynched, we must be sure of that lynch first. And then the rest can spread votes as much as possible. I don't know if this much cooperation is feasible in the long term though.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:43 am
by Nevinera
Snow Dog wrote:Sorry for a third post. I think a spread vote is good but if there is someone we agree, or some of us agree, needs to be lynched, we must be sure of that lynch first. And then the rest can spread votes as much as possible. I don't know if this much cooperation is feasible in the long term though.
Definitely not, since the number of baddies will be expanding, and I don't think we'll know when we lynch one.
This game seems practically unwinnable to me; maybe something very civ-favoring is going to happen with those extras?

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:44 am
by S~V~S
voting nevinera

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:07 am
by blindfaeth
MovingPictures07 wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:I don't really agree with the vote the person above tactic, yes if we all vote each other no one will be NKed, but the lynch will probably be randomly determined. I think nevinera had a good idea, have a couple people vote earlier on the suspicious ppl and everyone else vote others to spread the vote and prevent the NK. And that way too they might not kill even if they could because we would have essentially narrowed them down to one of only a couple players. Ill be back tomorrow morning to vote I suppose.
Who do you recommend is suspicious then? And why is that a better idea? This way we are ensuring that no one can possibly NK.

I'm sticking with the plan because I will be very busy tomorrow. votes Snow Dog
The plan is silly because since everyone is forced to fit into this plan no one will stand out tomorrow during the lynch and well have yet another unproductive day because everyone voted the exact same way there is nothing as far as vote patterns to analyze. And the lynch will be completely random. Yes we save a civvie from a NK, so what, we lynch a civvie and almost completely intentionally. Ill play along but I'm not happy about it, voted someone, can't even remember without looking back up at the poll.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:13 am
by Snow Dog
^I think we already established we can't continue this way. Which is why I suggested in future to spread the vote aa much as possible only.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:31 am
by Roxy
Thi

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:35 am
by Roxy
LOL I hit enter by mistake.

This sucks tbh. Here we are me without a vote and bf without a vote. Why b/c russti has not bothered to check in.

Tbs I am followinvg the plan I guess since no one wanted to look at actual suspicions we will lose a civ with the lynch and me, another civ, for the NK.

Tbh whoever came up with this plan I am knew, like everyone else, hat there is always a no show/non participator that will make a plan like this moot.

I agree with bf and SVS's thoughts.

*votes bf* under major protest

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:39 am
by Roxy
Tbh I am sure whoever came up with this plan knew, like everyone else, that there is always a no show/non participator that will make a plan like this moot.

Ebwop - Fixed my wording

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:41 am
by Roxy
Yay I am the only one without a vote :|

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:46 am
by Kate
Roxy wrote:Yay I am the only one without a vote :|
I think u misunderstand. This will only matter if you are the killer.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:51 am
by Roxy
How Kate? I have no lynch protection nor do I have NK protection. Tell me how this helps if I am not the killer - because I am not the killer.

I have no vote for the lynch which makes me available to be NK'ed all thanks to RussttiFINKo

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:57 am
by Snow Dog
Roxy wrote:How Kate? I have no lynch protection nor do I have NK protection. Tell me how this helps if I am not the killer - because I am not the killer.

I have no vote for the lynch which makes me available to be NK'ed all thanks to RussttiFINKo
You are safe from a NK. Everyone got one vote. If you are the killer you won't kill yourself. If you are the killer WE are not safe.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:02 am
by Roxy
No not everyone got a vote Snow Dog. I did not get a vote. By my understanding, not getting a lynch vote makes me available for NK.

I am going to re-read Name's posts again.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:06 am
by Snow Dog
Roxy wrote:No not everyone got a vote Snow Dog. I did not get a vote. By my understanding, not getting a lynch vote makes me available for NK.

I am going to re-read Name's posts again.
No that isn't how it works.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {NIGHT 0}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:08 am
by Snow Dog
Here is the relevant bit Roxy.
insertnamehere wrote:


It is now Day 1. You have 24 hours to vote out who you think is BOB, and whoever he is possessing. Remember, if whoever BOB's possessing get's a single vote, everybody lives through the night.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:11 am
by Roxy
Ok I think I understand. As long as I am not Bob or his recruit there will be no NK. Right?

If so, then there will be no NK. I am not Bob or a recruit.

Linky - thanks Snow Dog, I read the Host posts and think I understand now.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:12 am
by Roxy
Sorry for thinking bad thoughts toward Rustti

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:47 am
by birdwithteeth11
I went to bed last night thinking on it, and in reality I think this was a bad plan. In a situation like this, I think we should have left at least a few people without votes. I think that's something we're going to have to consider doing every day in order to narrow down who Bob's recruits are. Because if we just keep voting for every single person then it will lead to endless random/manipulated lynches.

I know it's risky, but I don't see a better plan right now.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:04 am
by Russtifinko
Roxy wrote:Sorry for thinking bad thoughts toward Rustti
Take it easy, Roxy! That was quite a freakout about me not checking in, considering there were still hours to go on the poll. I was at a party last night and had basketball today. And as Snowie said, if you're not bad then you have nothing to fear from not getting a vote.

I think this plan was a good one in terms of protecting people in the short term, but as no baddies seem to have outed themselves (everyone has a vote now, right?) we need a new plan ASAP.

votes Roxy

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:11 am
by Russtifinko
insertnamehere wrote:Remember, Ben Horne can change one vote. He could change the vote for himself to whoever he chooses.

Just food for thought.
Does this mean Ben Horne is deciding this lynch? If so I really hope he/she has some good instincts.

By the way, I think Snowie's theory about dead people coming back in the black roles is probably right. Every confirmed role in play (BOB, Ben Horne, and I'm assuming Lucy Moran since thoughts were posted at the beginning of the day) are white.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:29 am
by insertnamehere
Image
You better make your face up in your favourite disguise. With your button down lips and your roller blind eyes. With your empty smile and your hungry heart. Feel the bile rising from your guilty past with your nerves in tatters. When the cockleshell shatters, and the hammers batter. Down the door! You better run.


I play my part on my stage. I tell what I can to form the perfect answer. But that answer cannot come before all are ready to hear. So I tell what I can to form the perfect answer. Sometimes my anger at the fire is evident. Sometimes it is not anger, really. It may appear as such, but could it be a clue? The fire I speak of is not a kind fire.



CUT TO:

2. INT. WINDOM EARLE'S CABIN - DAY

START CLOSE on WINDOM EARLE. Seated in an armchair, pipe in hand, avuncular in aspect, he begins:

EARLE
Once upon a time, there was a place of great goodness
called the White Lodge. Fawns gamboled there amidst
happy laughing spirits. The sounds of innocence and
laughter filled the air. When it rained it rained sweet
nectar that paralyzed the heart with the desire to live
one's life in truth and beauty.
(beat)
Generally speaking, a ghastly place reeking of virtue's
sour smell, engorged with the whispered prayers of
kneeling mothers, mewling newborns, and fools young
and old compelled to do good without reason. But, I
am pleased to note, our story does not end in this place
of saccharine excess.

As he speaks, CAMERA PANS from Earle, travels toward his unseen audience, revealing LEO JOHNSON seated cross-legged on the floor, as if listening to a bedtime story.

EARLE
For there is another place, its opposite, of almost
unimaginable power, chock full of dark forces and
vicious secrets. No prayers dare penetrate this frightful
maw. Spirits there care not for good deeds and priestly
invocations. They are as like to rip the muscle from
our bones as greet you with a happy g'day. And, if
harnessed, these spirits, this hidden land of unmuffled
screams and broken hearts, will offer up a power so vast
that its bearer might reorder the earth itself to his liking.
(beat)
This place I speak of, is known as the Black Lodge. And
I intend to find it.

CAMERA CONTINUES to PAN, reveals a dull-witted YOUTH seated at Leo's school desk. Long stringy hair, head band, a vacant stare. Some sullen refugee from a speed metal talent show.

YOUTH
Listen, man. The story's cool. But you promised me
beer. Besides, you told me there was gonna be a party up
here. Black Lodge, White Lodge, like what's the big
deal?

CAMERA CONCLUDES its move, HOLDS ON Earle's computer screen, where we see a computer rendering of the hieroglyph from Owl Cave.

EARLE
In time, young man. Everything in time.


Boogs has died, he was Windom Earle.

It is now Night 1, you have 24 hours to send in your night actions.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {NIGHT 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:42 am
by insertnamehere
Just now found this.


Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {NIGHT 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:48 am
by Vompatti
Well, this seems like a rather good result. :wine:

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {NIGHT 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:05 pm
by Snow Dog
Hmmm. Insertnamehere if one of Bob's minions was lynched would we know?

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {NIGHT 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:06 pm
by insertnamehere
Yes, you would.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {NIGHT 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:08 pm
by Snow Dog
insertnamehere wrote:Yes, you would.
Thanks. So Windom Earle was civ then and not recruited. Well..we need a plan for next lynch obvioulsy. Not sure how I feel about Windom's death. But as he had to survive to the end to win he wasn't positively on the civ side. So, yeah...pretty good I suppose.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {NIGHT 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:16 pm
by birdwithteeth11
I guess this is a good lynch result? :shrug: Tbh I'm still a bit confused.

Not necessarily, Snow Dog. Does it say he had to survive to the end to win or that he is last man standing?

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {NIGHT 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:20 pm
by Snow Dog
birdwithteeth11 wrote:I guess this is a good lynch result? :shrug: Tbh I'm still a bit confused.

Not necessarily, Snow Dog. Does it say he had to survive to the end to win or that he is last man standing?
Not sure

"Windom Earle
Cooper's ex partner, who went insane. Get's randomly matched with another player at the start of the game, he and that player engage in a life-or-death game of online chess, PM'ing the moves back and forth. Every time a player loses a piece, something bad happens to them. If a player goes to checkmate, the loser dies. The minimum of moves that have to be made per day/night is 1. If the other player dies of other causes, or Windom wins, he get's a new partner. Win Conditions: Make it to the end. "

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {NIGHT 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:25 pm
by birdwithteeth11
That makes me think he was more of a true indy than civvie or baddie oriented. In that case, I'm okay with this result. Could have been better, but could have been worse.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {DAY 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:45 pm
by Kate
Roxy wrote:Sorry for thinking bad thoughts toward Rustti
:hugs:

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {NIGHT 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:52 pm
by Kate
Windom was a bad baddie on the show. He was a survive to the end dtand alone Indy at best baddie at worst. It was a good lynch result. He would have killed off players chess game after chess game.

I hereby stick my virtual tongue out at the plan naysayers. Hehe.

Re: Twin Peaks Mafia {NIGHT 1}

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:06 pm
by Nevinera
Kate wrote: He would have killed off players chess game after chess game.
At one move per night? Nobody would hae gotten past the opening.