The Syndicate

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:44 am

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:39 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:34 am But seriously though. Are there two of all roles or something? Are we all Millers?

I'm not a miller.

Good to know. What do you think it means that there's two millers in the game though?

I have absolutely no idea. But it's information I'm glad to have.

Cause I'm wondering if Rej's claim is false, and he didn't expect there to be an actual Miller.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:48 am Cause I'm wondering if Rej's claim is false, and he didn't expect there to be an actual Miller.

Ok, I get you. The OP says mafia would be supplied with fake claims where applicable though, so do you think he would give them bad fake claims? (Assuming that part of the OP was true?)

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:52 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:48 am Cause I'm wondering if Rej's claim is false, and he didn't expect there to be an actual Miller.

Ok, I get you. The OP says mafia would be supplied with fake claims where applicable though, so do you think he would give them bad fake claims? (Assuming that part of the OP was true?)

No, I don't. But I don't know what "where applicable" means.

Other that Rej being ??? to me, I guess Bob is the only one who has actually tried to question stuff and progress the game. But I don't have a read on them myself.

I'll be around later. Hope more people have posted by then.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:01 am

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:52 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:48 am Cause I'm wondering if Rej's claim is false, and he didn't expect there to be an actual Miller.

Ok, I get you. The OP says mafia would be supplied with fake claims where applicable though, so do you think he would give them bad fake claims? (Assuming that part of the OP was true?)

No, I don't. But I don't know what "where applicable" means.

Other that Rej being ??? to me, I guess Bob is the only one who has actually tried to question stuff and progress the game. But I don't have a read on them myself.

I 100% understand. I'd be freaked out about Rej if he had claimed my role as well. I'm not even sure I understand what a bastard game is, or how all the mechanics are supposed to work in this game. I just don't see what mafia Rej has to win by coming out full force role claiming Day 1 when no one even asked or seemed curious about it.

I have to head out soon for a while myself, but what was it about Epi that made you vote there? At this point, I feel the most ??? about him and speedchuck for voting Daisy. Speeedchuck didn't even explain his vote there IIRC. So maybe I like that less? I'm not sure yet either. Not enough to go on today, which is the suck.

But I shall return!

EBWOP:

"it" being Rej's role.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:44 am

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:39 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:34 am But seriously though. Are there two of all roles or something? Are we all Millers?

I'm not a miller.

Good to know. What do you think it means that there's two millers in the game though?

It'd be pretty fitting thematically if they're predators, as predators are framed as turning savage naturally in the film.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:14 am So what's the deal with the Miller claim? IF everyone votes for him... and he turns up Mafia... how will we know the truth? I guess it means little in a closed setup where we don't know how many Mafia there are, but we can estimate. Is it accurate that it's "usually a mafia tactic"?

Like, do you believe a Miller flips mafia upon death?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:19 am [VOTE: chuck] aubergine for claiming predator

Have you seen the movie?

Rej wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:29 am Tbh I don't doubt speedchuck for now. I am not good with Zootopia I have slowly to get into it. But aren't predators on the side of the protagonists?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:19 am [VOTE: chuck] aubergine for claiming predator

Don't tell me you slipped and tell me town is splitt in 2 factions. Let's get it straight ahead.

Predators are the ones being framed and are only on the side of the protagonist's yes.

As for the second part, if there was some split town mechanic this would usually be known to all townies and there is nothing like that in my role PM. Normally such things are a versus mechanic.

Rej wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:15 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:45 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 1:42 pm I eat your passive. Nom Nom.

Predator claim noted

he is baiting predator claims

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 3:51 pm All predators are not wolves

he is defending predator claims

what you guys want to achieve?

I'm pretty sure he is just making a joke based on the alternate name of scum/mafia being wolves.

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:44 am [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine


I don't like the Daisy votes. Now speedchuck has voted her too. She hasn't even posted once yet. It feels weird.

That seems like a good reason to me

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:21 am I don't know if discussing predators vs something else is really the point here. I don't think discussing details of our specific characters should be a part of the game - probably also against the rules, so let's not. The movie is about a bunch of mammals coming together to sing kumbaya, so let's do that. And then kill filthy scum.

So the OP mentions cult as a possibility. Cool. And that mafia can win without parity somehow. Also cool.

Rej - Who is scum and why? Go go go

you are scummy right now, because my role tells me that it can be neccessary to know what's going on with flavours.

why I claimed Miller? because where I come from we do it, so no invest result gets wasted on me

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:48 am Cause I'm wondering if Rej's claim is false, and he didn't expect there to be an actual Miller.

Nah I didn't expect there to be more Millers but it is possible as someone stated above the predators were used to be framed in the series and if you want me more to claim I am actually also a predator that's why I jumped on the predator discussion earlier when someone said all predators are town, and this makes sense if you know what role they play in zootopia, that's why I stood up and claimed Miller so town doesn't invest me.
That's what I think is this set up about, right now invests have a less target to worry about it...and if I get lynched then I fucked up for myself.

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:44 am [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine


I don't like the Daisy votes. Now speedchuck has voted her too. She hasn't even posted once yet. It feels weird.

What don't you like about them?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:15 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:44 am [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine


I don't like the Daisy votes. Now speedchuck has voted her too. She hasn't even posted once yet. It feels weird.

What don't you like about them?

Seems opportunistic to me. Of course, maybe she's your scum buddy, and bussing her as a no-show could work out for you.

OTOH, it's easy to lynch a no-show, because even if she flips town you can say, "well she should have posted".

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:15 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:44 am [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine


I don't like the Daisy votes. Now speedchuck has voted her too. She hasn't even posted once yet. It feels weird.

What don't you like about them?

Seems opportunistic to me. Of course, maybe she's your scum buddy, and bussing her as a no-show could work out for you.

OTOH, it's easy to lynch a no-show, because even if she flips town you can say, "well she should have posted".

Those are two possibilities.

Another is that I voted her to see who would jump.

You jumped.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:26 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:15 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:44 am [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine


I don't like the Daisy votes. Now speedchuck has voted her too. She hasn't even posted once yet. It feels weird.

What don't you like about them?

Seems opportunistic to me. Of course, maybe she's your scum buddy, and bussing her as a no-show could work out for you.

OTOH, it's easy to lynch a no-show, because even if she flips town you can say, "well she should have posted".

Those are two possibilities.

Another is that I voted her to see who would jump.

You jumped.

Nope. No jump here. Try again.

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:28 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:26 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:15 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:44 am [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine


I don't like the Daisy votes. Now speedchuck has voted her too. She hasn't even posted once yet. It feels weird.

What don't you like about them?

Seems opportunistic to me. Of course, maybe she's your scum buddy, and bussing her as a no-show could work out for you.

OTOH, it's easy to lynch a no-show, because even if she flips town you can say, "well she should have posted".

Those are two possibilities.

Another is that I voted her to see who would jump.

You jumped.

Nope. No jump here. Try again.

In both of the scenarios you gave, I am presumed to be mafia and Spacedaisy is presumed to be a civilian, even though she has no posts. It's markedly circular. I can only be opportunistic if I'm bad. Do you think Spacedaisy is getting lynched Day 1?

I don't.

My point is that you came to Spacedaisy's defense. You might not have done that if I had not voted her. Hence, you jumped.

Now I have to judge why.

If the daisy voters seem opportunistic why vote for Epi instead of me

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:41 pm If the daisy voters seem opportunistic why vote for Epi instead of me

I'm ok with Rej for now. Will be moving my vote.

where is Mac why he voted up Kylemii? and how long will this Day last? are we already extending over?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:41 pm If the daisy voters seem opportunistic why vote for Epi instead of me

Cause you're my favorite. Shhhh..

I'm not actually Miller, if that wasn't obvious. =p

I believe Rej for what it's worth. I haven't seen any scum come out of the gates claiming Miller. Kudos if he did I guess, but I think not. And he seems to believe what he's saying about the predators things, although I don't think he got what I meant.

This game has been so slow.
I think indiglo comes off as a bit of a wide eyed town.

I voted Epi just because I had a feeling. Vague as fuck, I know.
Other possible scum to me is colonialbob. I'm not sure his hunting is genuine.

Most players just aren't playing though. So it's pretty impossible to do anything. I planned on taking it easy this game, but not that easy lol. Where is Nutella to get involved and have sassy comments? >: (

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:06 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:41 pm If the daisy voters seem opportunistic why vote for Epi instead of me

I'm ok with Rej for now. Will be moving my vote.

Oh wait. This I do like.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:41 pm If the daisy voters seem opportunistic why vote for Epi instead of me

This question tho. Does it matter? Do you think indiglo is scummy?

I dislike the votes on Spacedaisey is town just frustrated and uninformed? The activity drop could indicate that scum was laying low while people are throwing out votes on me and another possible civillian. It makes it hard for me to read. Spacedaisey has no posts for example.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 10:36 pm birdwithteeth has a vote.

Because he's a bird and I like birds.

I feel like there's an identity crisis going on. Gemma was the bird lover last game or person with the bird comics.

Has The Syndicate had a bird mafia game yet? If not, I think there is an audience here.

I threw a vote on a dude like birdwithteeth for no reason, and indiglo said nothing.

I threw a vote on a lady like Spacedaisy for no reason, and indiglo said I was being opportunistic.

Why is that?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 11:08 pm It's Day 1. Talk you animals.

How rude. (jar jar voice)

Question for everyone: What's your favorite kind of popsicle? If you don't have a favorite, suggest a flavor you would like as a popsicle.

So are you saying indiglo is wide eyed scum, with Daisy specifically? Dun dun duuun

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:44 am Also, RVS? I'm not familiar with that acronym.

Have you played a lot of mafia or not really?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:25 am

Rej wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:15 am what you guys want to achieve?

EQUALITY!

*grabs picket fence*

I like this from you. (Then again, I like most fluff that seems amusing without feeling forced.)

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:56 am Eh. I'll quibble with the angle shooting but that might be more semantics than anything else. My logic is definitely not "oh you didn't have this knowledge from your PM so you must not be town"

This seems ultra specific. I think there's a chance this could be tmi.

[VOTE: colonialbob] aubergine

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:42 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:44 am Also, RVS? I'm not familiar with that acronym.

Have you played a lot of mafia or not really?

Played a decent amount but not across very many sites

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:01 am You are all in luck, and will experience lurk-Dizzy this time around. Any questions? No? Good.

Not sure if I like this from you, I think the most lurky version of Dizzy I've seen was the GoT game where you were SK claiming survivor.

But under other circumstances, a lurky you might make some sense here.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:41 am

Rej wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:29 am Tbh I don't doubt speedchuck for now. I am not good with Zootopia I have slowly to get into it. But aren't predators on the side of the protagonists?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:19 am [VOTE: chuck] aubergine for claiming predator

Don't tell me you slipped and tell me town is splitt in 2 factions. Let's get it straight ahead.

This is why I'm voting Rej. I find the wording "slipped and tell me town" to be something very strange for a town member to say to another townie.

[mention]Owner of a Lonely Heart[/mention] my reasoning. Not really tmi I think

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:52 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:01 am You are all in luck, and will experience lurk-Dizzy this time around. Any questions? No? Good.

Not sure if I like this from you, I think the most lurky version of Dizzy I've seen was the GoT game where you were SK claiming survivor.

But under other circumstances, a lurky you might make some sense here.

Spoiler: show

Spoiler alert - I'm not actually lurking. Mostly because this game has been super slow. I'm traveling though, so I thought I would have a hard time keeping up. Buuut....

I'm not sure if like Neverwhere's Avatar picture change. It might be NAI though. Too bad it isn't a character; those are much easier to read than plain text.

Rej wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:24 pm I dislike the votes on Spacedaisey is town just frustrated and uninformed? The activity drop could indicate that scum was laying low while people are throwing out votes on me and another possible civillian. It makes it hard for me to read. Spacedaisey has no posts for example.

Who do you think is laying low (aside from spacedaisy)?

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:15 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:44 am [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine


I don't like the Daisy votes. Now speedchuck has voted her too. She hasn't even posted once yet. It feels weird.

What don't you like about them?

Seems opportunistic to me. Of course, maybe she's your scum buddy, and bussing her as a no-show could work out for you.

OTOH, it's easy to lynch a no-show, because even if she flips town you can say, "well she should have posted".

Have you played much with Epi?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:53 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:41 am

Rej wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:29 am Tbh I don't doubt speedchuck for now. I am not good with Zootopia I have slowly to get into it. But aren't predators on the side of the protagonists?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:19 am [VOTE: chuck] aubergine for claiming predator

Don't tell me you slipped and tell me town is splitt in 2 factions. Let's get it straight ahead.

This is why I'm voting Rej. I find the wording "slipped and tell me town" to be something very strange for a town member to say to another townie.

@Owner of a Lonely Heart my reasoning. Not really tmi I think

I am more voting for you for bringing up the word "pm".

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:56 am Eh. I'll quibble with the angle shooting but that might be more semantics than anything else. My logic is definitely not "oh you didn't have this knowledge from your PM so you must not be town"

Or how the wording ^^ here is defensive in saying that you aren't or your logic isn't like this.

I get that are explaining how you're not something, but a lot of this is up to how everyone as a whole interprets each other.

You may be this one idea or thing, but reading the quotations sounds like you know a thing or two. Or like I said, I feel like you are tmi-ing,

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:54 pm
Spoiler alert - I'm not actually lurking. Mostly because this game has been super slow. I'm traveling though, so I thought I would have a hard time keeping up. Buuut....

But yeah, it's as slow as the Planet 16 Earth 21 game or slower, not sure

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:04 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:53 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:41 am

Rej wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:29 am Tbh I don't doubt speedchuck for now. I am not good with Zootopia I have slowly to get into it. But aren't predators on the side of the protagonists?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:19 am [VOTE: chuck] aubergine for claiming predator

Don't tell me you slipped and tell me town is splitt in 2 factions. Let's get it straight ahead.

This is why I'm voting Rej. I find the wording "slipped and tell me town" to be something very strange for a town member to say to another townie.

@Owner of a Lonely Heart my reasoning. Not really tmi I think

I am more voting for you for bringing up the word "pm".

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:56 am Eh. I'll quibble with the angle shooting but that might be more semantics than anything else. My logic is definitely not "oh you didn't have this knowledge from your PM so you must not be town"

Or how the wording ^^ here is defensive in saying that you aren't or your logic isn't like this.

I get that are explaining how you're not something, but a lot of this is up to how everyone as a whole interprets each other.

You may be this one idea or thing, but reading the quotations sounds like you know a thing or two. Or like I said, I feel like you are tmi-ing,

That was in response to Epi saying I was angle shooting

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:44 pm I'm moving my vote to Spacedaisy.

So what about Spacedaisy? What do you like or dislike about her so far this game?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:07 pm

That was in response to Epi saying I was angle shooting

Well, you object to calling it angle shooting, and then the pink bit

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:56 am Eh. I'll quibble with the angle shooting but that might be more semantics than anything else. My logic is definitely not "oh you didn't have this knowledge from your PM so you must not be town"

Well, you clearly don't like having it called angle shooting. You try to have it lessened to just semantics, but yeah, that wasn't really what triggered the vote.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:26 am BIRDswithteeth
ePIGnosis
speedCHUCK
space.....DAISY(?)
owner of a lonely HEART(bc things that own hearts are usually animals)

Someone that plays with words too :o!?!? hi *waves..happily*

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:16 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:41 pm If the daisy voters seem opportunistic why vote for Epi instead of me

This question tho. Does it matter? Do you think indiglo is scummy?

I'd rather hear indiglo's response before making any assumptions.

I don't think he/she's scummy from this question alone, though

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:55 pm I'm not sure if like Neverwhere's Avatar picture change. It might be NAI though. Too bad it isn't a character; those are much easier to read than plain text.

I'm concerned about Epi having 2 votes. Would much rather lynch someone who hasn't really shown up.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:14 am So what's the deal with the Miller claim? IF everyone votes for him... and he turns up Mafia... how will we know the truth? I guess it means little in a closed setup where we don't know how many Mafia there are, but we can estimate. Is it accurate that it's "usually a mafia tactic"?

From my understanding, a miller role is mainly an important distinction for whoever/whomever is/are the cop(s) in the game. Generally, it should only potentially be trusted if announced as a day 1.

I haven't seen it used as a mafia tactic in awhile.