Re: An Australian Country Murder Mystery (Day 1)
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:32 am
[mention]Sloonei[/mention] all of your posts so far are entirely devoid of spice. I see no real takes. I want takes
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:17 am Jack is never this out of character as scum I think. I also tend to be able to sort him out by day 3 unless I die so as always not lynching him
Whats your point in Dom never gets lynched vs DF always does?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:07 amTo get DF to post. Because he doesn’t. And I don’t want to roll the dice on his alignment. I want him to play.Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:32 pmWhat was your aim?I'm unclear as to what you point is.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:25 pm Dom doesn’t get himself lynched.
When was the last time Dom got lynched at all? DF gets lynched practically every game.
Again, why is it suspicious?
My point is two people said they though I was talking about you and I wasn’t. Clearing that up.
I'd like to find out if he is suspicious for doing so.
I'd love to see the old DF back.DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:55 amHopefully play the way I used to: Look at inconsistencies in players' statements, observe voting patterns (if I live that long), and examine how effects of role abilities could be linked to specific players.
My initial comment meant "I can't read anyone's meta." I've never been any good at differentiating a player's town game from their scum game, so I mostly just approach every player on a game by game basis.
But this ain't it. Do you even remember what nutella was like?DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:12 am After catching up, I don't feel super strong about most of the field so far, but Nutella is a standout as seeming towny to me. She's offering thoughts on a lot of players, asking questions, not being waffly.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:20 am Why would I fucking buddy DF even if I was a wolf? There’s only about a 25% chance he even votes today.
I don’t believe you believe the things you are saying.
Gonna go ahead and vote [VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now.
You want takes?
Whats your point in Dom never gets lynched vs DF always does?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:07 amTo get DF to post. Because he doesn’t. And I don’t want to roll the dice on his alignment. I want him to play.Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:32 pmWhat was your aim?I'm unclear as to what you point is.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:25 pm Dom doesn’t get himself lynched.
When was the last time Dom got lynched at all? DF gets lynched practically every game.
Again, why is it suspicious?
My point is two people said they though I was talking about you and I wasn’t. Clearing that up.
I'd like to find out if he is suspicious for doing so.
I'd love to see the old DF back.DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:55 amHopefully play the way I used to: Look at inconsistencies in players' statements, observe voting patterns (if I live that long), and examine how effects of role abilities could be linked to specific players.
My initial comment meant "I can't read anyone's meta." I've never been any good at differentiating a player's town game from their scum game, so I mostly just approach every player on a game by game basis.
But this ain't it. Do you even remember what nutella was like?DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:12 am After catching up, I don't feel super strong about most of the field so far, but Nutella is a standout as seeming towny to me. She's offering thoughts on a lot of players, asking questions, not being waffly.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:20 am Why would I fucking buddy DF even if I was a wolf? There’s only about a 25% chance he even votes today.
I don’t believe you believe the things you are saying.
Gonna go ahead and vote [VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now.
You want takes?
I like the idea to ping someone to play and dislike the reminder of him being LHF.
Because if you play your normal game, you’d get lynched anyway without tying your death to me.DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:02 amWhy wouldn't you? In a game with so few players, nearly all of which are vanilla, every town vote is significant. The usual approach of leaving me for late game won't fly here, since in a few phases I could conceivably pop back in after a hiatus and cast a deciding vote. It might be a better approach for the Mafia to go for a softball right out of the gate to get a jump on the numbers without really putting themselves on the line in the way they might in trying to fabricate a case on a more prominent player.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:04 pmNo you.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:58 pmYou're mafia.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:28 pm @DFaraday
You have a history of missing day phases and ending games with under 10 posts. I understand that irl stuff happens but It has become a pattern.
I would absolutely love to play a mafia game with you but that’s going to require you to play a mafia game with me as well.
Please post.
If I was mafia, I wouldn’t start the game with a push on a guy who tends to get himself lynched all on his own.
Nutella’s town meta is being waffley and when asked to back up her opinions, she’s like “lol idk” and she’s not even really asking questions but making false statements.DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:12 am After catching up, I don't feel super strong about most of the field so far, but Nutella is a standout as seeming towny to me. She's offering thoughts on a lot of players, asking questions, not being waffly.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:20 am Why would I fucking buddy DF even if I was a wolf? There’s only about a 25% chance he even votes today.
I don’t believe you believe the things you are saying.
Gonna go ahead and vote [VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now.
This game is a joke right? Everyone high giving and giving townreads to scummy players. Wtf?nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:26 amlol I wanted to question your sheeping of me but this is legit, you can have a townread
No. And you fucking know that.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:30 amyeah. this is why "mislynch bait"/going after low-hanging fruit is a problem. it almost always ends up in the scum's favorDFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:02 amWhy wouldn't you? In a game with so few players, nearly all of which are vanilla, every town vote is significant. The usual approach of leaving me for late game won't fly here, since in a few phases I could conceivably pop back in after a hiatus and cast a deciding vote. It might be a better approach for the Mafia to go for a softball right out of the gate to get a jump on the numbers without really putting themselves on the line in the way they might in trying to fabricate a case on a more prominent player.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:04 pmNo you.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:58 pmYou're mafia.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:28 pm @DFaraday
You have a history of missing day phases and ending games with under 10 posts. I understand that irl stuff happens but It has become a pattern.
I would absolutely love to play a mafia game with you but that’s going to require you to play a mafia game with me as well.
Please post.
If I was mafia, I wouldn’t start the game with a push on a guy who tends to get himself lynched all on his own.
but I still feel like my initial concern wasn't even answered. Jack were you "pushing" DF with the post or not?
I like this vote.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:11 am [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine for now. I’m absolutely not getting lynched because I asked DF to play. Asinine.
Is that indicative of her mafia meta, though?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:17 amNutella’s town meta is being waffley and when asked to back up her opinions, she’s like “lol idk” and she’s not even really asking questions but making false statements.DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:12 am After catching up, I don't feel super strong about most of the field so far, but Nutella is a standout as seeming towny to me. She's offering thoughts on a lot of players, asking questions, not being waffly.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:20 am Why would I fucking buddy DF even if I was a wolf? There’s only about a 25% chance he even votes today.
I don’t believe you believe the things you are saying.
Gonna go ahead and vote [VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now.
I don't like the LC/nutella interaction either.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:18 amThis game is a joke right? Everyone high giving and giving townreads to scummy players. Wtf?nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:26 amlol I wanted to question your sheeping of me but this is legit, you can have a townread
I'm unclear on a clear rationale as to why you're voting nutella. Can you explain it linearly?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:20 am [VOTE: Nutella] aubergine
Stupid Sloonei frisbee votes.
I can see a baddie setting this up as "see, i engaged with him, he said he would, he didn't. avoidance!"Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:27 am @Dom
I said the equivalent of “Vote Dom. Please play, DF. He has a bearded dude avatar.” Two people were like “I thought you meant Dom’s avatar.” And I’m just like “Um...Dom’s avatar doesn’t even have a beard.” And now you’re grilling me on the importance of the relative beards of your avatars and why I felt the need to compare them.
I need you and @nutella and @Long Con and @DFaraday to explain with actual words, without saying “idk” or “kinda” or “maybe,” exactly what is suspicious about me pinging a guy who doesn’t average a single post per day, and asking him to actually play the game.
Explain to me the wolf motivation or whatever.
At least one of you is a wolf struck by the false idea that I can be lynched. If it ain’t you, back up your shit.
Infallible?Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:29 amI can see a baddie setting this up as "see, i engaged with him, he said he would, he didn't. avoidance!"Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:27 am @Dom
I said the equivalent of “Vote Dom. Please play, DF. He has a bearded dude avatar.” Two people were like “I thought you meant Dom’s avatar.” And I’m just like “Um...Dom’s avatar doesn’t even have a beard.” And now you’re grilling me on the importance of the relative beards of your avatars and why I felt the need to compare them.
I need you and @nutella and @Long Con and @DFaraday to explain with actual words, without saying “idk” or “kinda” or “maybe,” exactly what is suspicious about me pinging a guy who doesn’t average a single post per day, and asking him to actually play the game.
Explain to me the wolf motivation or whatever.
At least one of you is a wolf struck by the false idea that I can be lynched. If it ain’t you, back up your shit.
I think pressure on you isn't a bad thing. You're not infallable.
Talk to me about some hot takes.
I gave you some.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:30 am If you changed your mind on me, that’s not an excuse. I want answers.
Nutella: Jack is suspicious.Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:28 amI like this vote.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:11 am [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine for now. I’m absolutely not getting lynched because I asked DF to play. Asinine.
Jack-- talk to me about Long Con.
Is that indicative of her mafia meta, though?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:17 amNutella’s town meta is being waffley and when asked to back up her opinions, she’s like “lol idk” and she’s not even really asking questions but making false statements.DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:12 am After catching up, I don't feel super strong about most of the field so far, but Nutella is a standout as seeming towny to me. She's offering thoughts on a lot of players, asking questions, not being waffly.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:20 am Why would I fucking buddy DF even if I was a wolf? There’s only about a 25% chance he even votes today.
I don’t believe you believe the things you are saying.
Gonna go ahead and vote [VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now.I don't like the LC/nutella interaction either.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:18 amThis game is a joke right? Everyone high giving and giving townreads to scummy players. Wtf?nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:26 amlol I wanted to question your sheeping of me but this is legit, you can have a townread
So-- which is worse, nutella or LC?I'm unclear on a clear rationale as to why you're voting nutella. Can you explain it linearly?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:20 am [VOTE: Nutella] aubergine
Stupid Sloonei frisbee votes.
Why nutella over LC?
Infallible implies I’m making a mistake. As a wolf? What mistake am I making? As a townie? Then what’s your point?Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:34 amI gave you some.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:30 am If you changed your mind on me, that’s not an excuse. I want answers.
You aren't infallible. Why should I just trust you?
Drop the arrogance and engage with me.
You're being pedantic.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:45 amInfallible implies I’m making a mistake. As a wolf? What mistake am I making? As a townie? Then what’s your point?Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:34 amI gave you some.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:30 am If you changed your mind on me, that’s not an excuse. I want answers.
You aren't infallible. Why should I just trust you?
Drop the arrogance and engage with me.
I’m not perfect. I’m unlynchable.Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:47 amYou're being pedantic.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:45 amInfallible implies I’m making a mistake. As a wolf? What mistake am I making? As a townie? Then what’s your point?Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:34 amI gave you some.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:30 am If you changed your mind on me, that’s not an excuse. I want answers.
You aren't infallible. Why should I just trust you?
Drop the arrogance and engage with me.
I'm trying to engage with you on the level. I'm saying if you're a civvie, you're not perfect so drop the act and just talk to people.
If I know from experience how DF is gonna play, he should just replace out.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:55 am DF plays that way enough of the time that pinging him to play is fake because you already know from experience that he'll play how he plays pings or not. Filler content not real content. Flush Out Fillers, as they say. Done. "Answered" Wolf motivation: early seemingly useful but no really content.
LOL so wolfy. Much accusation.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:58 amIf I know from experience how DF is gonna play, he should just replace out.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:55 am DF plays that way enough of the time that pinging him to play is fake because you already know from experience that he'll play how he plays pings or not. Filler content not real content. Flush Out Fillers, as they say. Done. "Answered" Wolf motivation: early seemingly useful but no really content.
I don’t need to make filler content. Accusations of filler content on D1 are wolfy.
AAAAAHHHHHH this is the red flag here. If Jack isn't scum here then I'll eat a waffle.
WTF why would you say that, suddenly I sound like a guy with strong beliefs? Fuck have you read my posts?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:03 am I believe LC believes what he’s saying much more than I believe Nutella believes what she’s saying. He can gnaw on my pant leg for awhile.
please rephrase your last sentence, I try to understand it.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:03 am I believe LC believes what he’s saying much more than I believe Nutella believes what she’s saying. He can gnaw on my pant leg for awhile.
You prodded somebody you know is only going to post when he deigns to come online and post. You know full well you aren't getting anything out of him, so why bother?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:07 amTo get DF to post. Because he doesn’t. And I don’t want to roll the dice on his alignment. I want him to play.Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:32 pmWhat was your aim?I'm unclear as to what you point is.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:25 pm Dom doesn’t get himself lynched.
When was the last time Dom got lynched at all? DF gets lynched practically every game.
Again, why is it suspicious?
My point is two people said they though I was talking about you and I wasn’t. Clearing that up.
I’m characterizing LC as a small dog, grabbing my pantleg in his teeth and pulling. He’s “attacking” me but it doesn’t bother me and I’m not going to try to lynch him for it.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:17 amplease rephrase your last sentence, I try to understand it.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:03 am I believe LC believes what he’s saying much more than I believe Nutella believes what she’s saying. He can gnaw on my pant leg for awhile.
Not “strong.” Just believable, esp contrasted with Nutella.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:16 amWTF why would you say that, suddenly I sound like a guy with strong beliefs? Fuck have you read my posts?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:03 am I believe LC believes what he’s saying much more than I believe Nutella believes what she’s saying. He can gnaw on my pant leg for awhile.
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Because I’m a nice person and that seemed nicer than loudly proclaiming that I don’t like playing with DF because he doesn’t fucking play and he eventually just gets lynched D4 or whatever and Mac might as well roll a dice and cut a role instead of sending it to DF.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:24 amYou prodded somebody you know is only going to post when he deigns to come online and post. You know full well you aren't getting anything out of him, so why bother?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:07 amTo get DF to post. Because he doesn’t. And I don’t want to roll the dice on his alignment. I want him to play.Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:32 pmWhat was your aim?I'm unclear as to what you point is.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:25 pm Dom doesn’t get himself lynched.
When was the last time Dom got lynched at all? DF gets lynched practically every game.
Again, why is it suspicious?
My point is two people said they though I was talking about you and I wasn’t. Clearing that up.![]()
Ain't no big dog attacks on Day 1, dude. And so you would try to lynch people who suspect you, but only if you think they're serious and might be successful? You're just Mr "No U"?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:30 amI’m characterizing LC as a small dog, grabbing my pantleg in his teeth and pulling. He’s “attacking” me but it doesn’t bother me and I’m not going to try to lynch him for it.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:17 amplease rephrase your last sentence, I try to understand it.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:03 am I believe LC believes what he’s saying much more than I believe Nutella believes what she’s saying. He can gnaw on my pant leg for awhile.
Okay, LC. Why should I suspect you as much as I suspect Nutella?Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:45 amAin't no big dog attacks on Day 1, dude. And so you would try to lynch people who suspect you, but only if you think they're serious and might be successful? You're just Mr "No U"?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:30 amI’m characterizing LC as a small dog, grabbing my pantleg in his teeth and pulling. He’s “attacking” me but it doesn’t bother me and I’m not going to try to lynch him for it.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:17 amplease rephrase your last sentence, I try to understand it.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:03 am I believe LC believes what he’s saying much more than I believe Nutella believes what she’s saying. He can gnaw on my pant leg for awhile.
This is Civ behaviour now? "I'd OMGUS him but i think I can weather this so I won't."![]()