Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Found the mafia.
MOODAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:35 pmTown tutuu D0: is excited to play the game, tells all the people she likes to play with how much she wants to play with them, pre-emptively townreads people based on town and/or enthusiasm so she can start forming a towncore of people she trusts.
Scum tutuu D0: I'm TOWN everyone. I'm innocent TOWN. Have I mentioned I'm TOWN?
“SHUT UP ALISON” is something Tutuu likely says if they are in scumchat together. Its too angry for town Tutuu to say to Alison. They are besties.tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:42 pmSHUT UP ALISONAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:41 pmLet's have a conversation, then. How did you feel when you got your scum role card from the host? Also what do you think about your teammates? Do you think you'll work well with them, or is bussing on your mind already?tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:38 pm well i wasnt like jumping up and down but i was lowkey pleasant sensation from seeing i rolled town and then i tried to talk to ppl but they were all friends in between themselves and they were talking to each other and i didnt know how to interject without being too awkward so i just said the stuff i said in case someone wanted to maybe start a conversation with me or something
im about to watch this movie u recommended btw. kung fu hustle. u said its very funny
Found another mafiaAmy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm I am so supremely confident in my abilities, and so thunderously calm + relaxed, that I will make a single irrelevant post at SOD then peace out for hours on end. I won't do anything villagery, I won't make any reads, I'll make 29 shitposts over the next 23 hours, then once D1 rolls around I'll make an unspecified number of additional shitposts. No cogent thought will escape these handsome lips. I will be illogical, haphazard, superfluous, inessential, pointless, redundant, uncalled for, unwarranted, unjustified, and gratuitous. The effen theorem will catch me with my pants betwixt my ankles. I'll vote off-wagon, talk about random nonsense, and make inappropriate japes concerning my relation to wolfchat. I am preemptively declaring any responses to this post "fair enough". I'll complain about a lack of WIM, the cause of which is nebuluous, obscure, and entirely insufficient. I will fabricate excuses and pretend I am busy to avoid posting in this thread, when in fact I will be watching cartoons and eating cheeto puffs in my underwear. More specifically, black boxer-briefs. You can't stop me. You can't misyeet me. You're powerless. I laugh in your face. I'm a villager, therefore I can do whatever the fuck I want. Go cry in wolfchat, you big baby. While you're poring over the thread, searching for any clue at all to help you in the seer hunt, know that I am still watching those cartoons and eating those cheeto puffs, nary a care in the world. My armpits are bone dry. I'm a villager, what are you going to do about it? Nothing; you will do nothing about it, because that's all you can do. Ligma. What's ligma? Ligma balls.
[VOTE: Sleep] aubergine
what makes you think this is scummy proto?protocultures wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:51 amFound another mafiaAmy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm I am so supremely confident in my abilities, and so thunderously calm + relaxed, that I will make a single irrelevant post at SOD then peace out for hours on end. I won't do anything villagery, I won't make any reads, I'll make 29 shitposts over the next 23 hours, then once D1 rolls around I'll make an unspecified number of additional shitposts. No cogent thought will escape these handsome lips. I will be illogical, haphazard, superfluous, inessential, pointless, redundant, uncalled for, unwarranted, unjustified, and gratuitous. The effen theorem will catch me with my pants betwixt my ankles. I'll vote off-wagon, talk about random nonsense, and make inappropriate japes concerning my relation to wolfchat. I am preemptively declaring any responses to this post "fair enough". I'll complain about a lack of WIM, the cause of which is nebuluous, obscure, and entirely insufficient. I will fabricate excuses and pretend I am busy to avoid posting in this thread, when in fact I will be watching cartoons and eating cheeto puffs in my underwear. More specifically, black boxer-briefs. You can't stop me. You can't misyeet me. You're powerless. I laugh in your face. I'm a villager, therefore I can do whatever the fuck I want. Go cry in wolfchat, you big baby. While you're poring over the thread, searching for any clue at all to help you in the seer hunt, know that I am still watching those cartoons and eating those cheeto puffs, nary a care in the world. My armpits are bone dry. I'm a villager, what are you going to do about it? Nothing; you will do nothing about it, because that's all you can do. Ligma. What's ligma? Ligma balls.
[VOTE: Sleep] aubergine
it's a copypasta. i didn't write itprotocultures wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:23 am framing their introduction
background state of mind
this person comes to meme
and be excused for this mentality later in the game
do you not find it scummy?
I wanted to question why you felt you absolutet needed to resolve Alison into a TR or SR, but the deliberation you go through in this post feels really towny.tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:59 am 29/30
tr on proto, i think he believes the stuff he believes. (u can call this sort of a meta read). if ur unsatisfied with this explanation u can ask me for further stuff to say
i have 2 choices for alison. 1) tr her for her enthusiasm to try to catch me scum or 2) scumread her if i put the bar a little higher and expect her to not make overly wrong reads on me. and i think her second post saying "town tutuu does X and scum tutuu does Y" was silly considering the game was like 30-40 posts in none of my friends had even posted by that point AND also the fact that she has never seen me play mafia so idk how could she say with confidence what would maf tutuu do. Despite her being wrong on both of these stuff gth i still wanna call her town. perhaps part of ot could be rock-paper-scissors fallacy (i just invented this fallacy). basically rock paper scissors is down to luck, but also not. so in this context i think that if alison rolled mafia against me this game and she saw that i was town, i think her approach wouldnt be to start by making an illogical push on me (this is the rock paper scissors). so she can b lean town
i also slightly wanna tr nanook primarily cuz he called me town and i liked it.
i read ur stuff about tim, amy, and respectfully i will disagree, ive never played with him b4 but i still think i saw a town posting town stuff, so
Reads:
tutuu
proto
tim
alison
nanook
rest
The internet is a scary and wondrous place.
Are you still up? Or just getting up?
You are town.
I like to $#%#post with my morning coffee before work.Benson wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:50 amAre you still up? Or just getting up?
Sleep is a valuable thing for villagers.
You are town.
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It's time to save some posts in case I actually need to say something of substance later on.
Understandable. Have a nice day.
I haven't started playing serious yet, but if I did it would be something I'd bring up too. Self-aware and some reads seem forced.Benson wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:04 am Actually, I want to talk about proto's entrance because I'm surprised no one else is talking about that (unless I missed it). I'm talking specially about the self-conscious meta talk as the first thing they wrote.
Because on the surface it gives me super wolfy vibes, even if it was probably written by a villager *that just plays like that*. Anyone else put off by that or have a take on this?
I like this response BUT this doesn't feel like what I expect town Tutuu to do. I expect more outrage at me having considered you as mafia. Am I just unfairly characterising you like this? I would have read you as more towny if you told me something like "lol boomer git gud" and reiterated that you are town. This response feels funny from you. I don't feel comfortable with townreading yoututuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:59 am 29/30
tr on proto, i think he believes the stuff he believes. (u can call this sort of a meta read). if ur unsatisfied with this explanation u can ask me for further stuff to say
i have 2 choices for alison. 1) tr her for her enthusiasm to try to catch me scum or 2) scumread her if i put the bar a little higher and expect her to not make overly wrong reads on me. and i think her second post saying "town tutuu does X and scum tutuu does Y" was silly considering the game was like 30-40 posts in none of my friends had even posted by that point AND also the fact that she has never seen me play mafia so idk how could she say with confidence what would maf tutuu do. Despite her being wrong on both of these stuff gth i still wanna call her town. perhaps part of ot could be rock-paper-scissors fallacy (i just invented this fallacy). basically rock paper scissors is down to luck, but also not. so in this context i think that if alison rolled mafia against me this game and she saw that i was town, i think her approach wouldnt be to start by making an illogical push on me (this is the rock paper scissors). so she can b lean town
i also slightly wanna tr nanook primarily cuz he called me town and i liked it.
i read ur stuff about tim, amy, and respectfully i will disagree, ive never played with him b4 but i still think i saw a town posting town stuff, so
Reads:
tutuu
proto
tim
alison
nanook
rest
27Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:13 amI haven't started playing serious yet, but if I did it would be something I'd bring up too. Self-aware and some reads seem forced.Benson wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:04 am Actually, I want to talk about proto's entrance because I'm surprised no one else is talking about that (unless I missed it). I'm talking specially about the self-conscious meta talk as the first thing they wrote.
Because on the surface it gives me super wolfy vibes, even if it was probably written by a villager *that just plays like that*. Anyone else put off by that or have a take on this?
Scirrus' entrance also poor. Generic roleplay that attempts to disguise an uncomfortable thread entrance.
But I'm not playing serious yet, so I'll just have to wait to mention these thoughts until I am.
From my experience playing, for me this isn't always the case. sometimes, evils will joke about it and actually turn out to be evil. Maybe, this site's perspective is differentAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:32 pm I actually think iaafr thinking his own play is scummy, and scrutinizing it, and half-jokingly(?) calling it scummy is pretty sketchy. On average, wolves tend to be far more aware of how scummy their posts look (with some exceptions), and they often see those posts as scummier than average because they're biased knowing their own alignment. Scumreading his own play is I think a pre-emptive thing to get ahead of people who might want to call those posts out and make them feel silly for doing so.
Don't tell me what to do.Benson wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:38 am27Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:13 amI haven't started playing serious yet, but if I did it would be something I'd bring up too. Self-aware and some reads seem forced.Benson wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:04 am Actually, I want to talk about proto's entrance because I'm surprised no one else is talking about that (unless I missed it). I'm talking specially about the self-conscious meta talk as the first thing they wrote.
Because on the surface it gives me super wolfy vibes, even if it was probably written by a villager *that just plays like that*. Anyone else put off by that or have a take on this?
Scirrus' entrance also poor. Generic roleplay that attempts to disguise an uncomfortable thread entrance.
But I'm not playing serious yet, so I'll just have to wait to mention these thoughts until I am.
Well, I think this can be true; but I think you have to look at the type of player first. Because a player that is frequently scum read for doing ostensibly wolfy things as a villager will probably become over self-conscious in general. Because they obviously are worried about getting miselimed.
And I gather that this is the case, or might be. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Stop trying to not be serious while being serious imo.
I bet rabbit has 300 tabs open with the posts he's gonna make as soon as he's permitted.
Wait so this is your first post in the game huh.WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:59 amFrom my experience playing, for me this isn't always the case. sometimes, evils will joke about it and actually turn out to be evil. Maybe, this site's perspective is differentAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:32 pm I actually think iaafr thinking his own play is scummy, and scrutinizing it, and half-jokingly(?) calling it scummy is pretty sketchy. On average, wolves tend to be far more aware of how scummy their posts look (with some exceptions), and they often see those posts as scummier than average because they're biased knowing their own alignment. Scumreading his own play is I think a pre-emptive thing to get ahead of people who might want to call those posts out and make them feel silly for doing so.
I played in a game that was hosted by a champs participant during their qualifying match. They did fine and directly advanced. I have every confidence that TSP can handle this.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:57 am Guys I just realised our host needs to start his semifinal game in like four days.
Let's go for the sweep so he won't be distracted.
I actually don't understand what you're getting at but thanks for thinking me cleverer than I am.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:05 pmI played in a game that was hosted by a champs participant during their qualifying match. They did fine and directly advanced. I have every confidence that TSP can handle this.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:57 am Guys I just realised our host needs to start his semifinal game in like four days.
Let's go for the sweep so he won't be distracted.
Besides, for wolves even a sweep takes many days and you my dear root vegetable are far from a lock town at this point.
I like the insertion of that subtle assumption into the conversation though, even if I had to reject it. Points for effort.
This is my second. i did post last night. I usually post what I think in games so I am going to try not to go over the 30 post limit hereMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:02 pmWait so this is your first post in the game huh.WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:59 amFrom my experience playing, for me this isn't always the case. sometimes, evils will joke about it and actually turn out to be evil. Maybe, this site's perspective is differentAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:32 pm I actually think iaafr thinking his own play is scummy, and scrutinizing it, and half-jokingly(?) calling it scummy is pretty sketchy. On average, wolves tend to be far more aware of how scummy their posts look (with some exceptions), and they often see those posts as scummier than average because they're biased knowing their own alignment. Scumreading his own play is I think a pre-emptive thing to get ahead of people who might want to call those posts out and make them feel silly for doing so.
Putting aside post limits, how do you normally like to begin games?WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:07 pmThis is my second. i did post last night. I usually post what I think in games so I am going to try not to go over the 30 post limit hereMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:02 pmWait so this is your first post in the game huh.WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:59 amFrom my experience playing, for me this isn't always the case. sometimes, evils will joke about it and actually turn out to be evil. Maybe, this site's perspective is differentAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:32 pm I actually think iaafr thinking his own play is scummy, and scrutinizing it, and half-jokingly(?) calling it scummy is pretty sketchy. On average, wolves tend to be far more aware of how scummy their posts look (with some exceptions), and they often see those posts as scummier than average because they're biased knowing their own alignment. Scumreading his own play is I think a pre-emptive thing to get ahead of people who might want to call those posts out and make them feel silly for doing so.
No. "Be quick and sweep" actually only works for town, because a wolf sweep, or any wolf victory, always involves going the distance. So your post, on its face, basically only makes sense if you are town. It "comes from a towny mindset."Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:08 pm Wait you mean my perspective of 'let's' as in I'm implying I'm town? That subtle assumption?
It really depends on the game. If it's my first game on the site I usually like saying something along the lines of being excited to play. If I'm on Board Game Geek, my home site, I will prob leave a meta vote on someone else which is a vote for no real meaning other than something like that happened in a previous game. If on Werewolv.es I'll probably see my avatar and probably just start chatting as day 0 is so short and there is no voting. Plus, if I'm a villager i might try and take the nk from a pr. On Mafia Universe, I really don't know how I start but assuming something similar to my first post in this game. In the end, it really depends on a few factors including whether it is anonymized, what my role, who i'm playing with, if I have a meta relationship with them or if I've never played with any of them beforeMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:09 pmPutting aside post limits, how do you normally like to begin games?WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:07 pmThis is my second. i did post last night. I usually post what I think in games so I am going to try not to go over the 30 post limit hereMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:02 pmWait so this is your first post in the game huh.WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:59 amFrom my experience playing, for me this isn't always the case. sometimes, evils will joke about it and actually turn out to be evil. Maybe, this site's perspective is differentAlison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:32 pm I actually think iaafr thinking his own play is scummy, and scrutinizing it, and half-jokingly(?) calling it scummy is pretty sketchy. On average, wolves tend to be far more aware of how scummy their posts look (with some exceptions), and they often see those posts as scummier than average because they're biased knowing their own alignment. Scumreading his own play is I think a pre-emptive thing to get ahead of people who might want to call those posts out and make them feel silly for doing so.
28Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:05 pmI played in a game that was hosted by a champs participant during their qualifying match. They did fine and directly advanced. I have every confidence that TSP can handle this.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:57 am Guys I just realised our host needs to start his semifinal game in like four days.
Let's go for the sweep so he won't be distracted.
Besides, for wolves even a sweep takes many days and you my dear root vegetable are far from a lock town at this point.
I like the insertion of that subtle assumption into the conversation though, even if I had to reject it. Points for effort.
It may be far less serious than it appears.Benson wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:04 pm28Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:05 pmI played in a game that was hosted by a champs participant during their qualifying match. They did fine and directly advanced. I have every confidence that TSP can handle this.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:57 am Guys I just realised our host needs to start his semifinal game in like four days.
Let's go for the sweep so he won't be distracted.
Besides, for wolves even a sweep takes many days and you my dear root vegetable are far from a lock town at this point.
I like the insertion of that subtle assumption into the conversation though, even if I had to reject it. Points for effort.
This post seems kinda serious compared to what it's responding to. Hmm.
Mafia philosophical question: is intuition or rationality more important to you when forming reads? Or is that a bad dichotomy.
God, I hope we get to the next phase and I can post tonight.
What do you mean 'post what I think type of person'? Don't we all post what we think?WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:32 pm Also, I am more of a post what I think type of person. Some people say that I play differently or opposite of how others do
Sorry, if I didn't word this well. I post whatever is on my head at the moment even it may not be game related. I also rarely reconsider what I have typed.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:36 pmWhat do you mean 'post what I think type of person'? Don't we all post what we think?WerewolfHunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:32 pm Also, I am more of a post what I think type of person. Some people say that I play differently or opposite of how others do
