GAME 1 - 8-Ball Mafia [END]

[JiwonMeganPark]

No i change my mind. My theory is Jiwon and Natalija are buddies.
[VOTE: JiwonMeganPark] aubergine

Why?

[Alison]

I disagree, i dont think Jiwon is the called shot, but im biased because i found D0 sus myself. 3 votes immediatly is obvious to begin with, and shows that atleast 2 townies thought they were being sus. It's most likely Wilgy or me as the called shot.
No self-respecting mafia runs up on their target the instant D1 starts. It's more likely Jiwon is a regular townie or mafia and the other mafia is turning a 2 vote to 3 and making it look like they are LHF. But that's a big brain play so i'm not going after it.

First of all, how do you know there's 2 townies on Jiwon? Why can't both mafia be on them?

Second, if Jiwon was legitimately scummy and was being voted by townies, wouldn't those townies give a strong case on them or provide reasoning as to why they're scum? LIke part of the reason I called Jiwon as the 8ball was because the votes that were put on them came completely out of the blue, and were unsupported by a believable progression and sometimes completely naked/unannounced.

[Alison]

No i change my mind. My theory is Jiwon and Natalija are buddies.
[VOTE: JiwonMeganPark] aubergine

This looks a lot like a falcon buddy.

What made you switch your mind off Jiwon being LHF because the alternative is too big brained for you to consider?

[Michelle]

Michelle is probably town, but I don't care. I ain't got time for her malarkey

That's pretty towny. I think in general the aggression comes from town. A few points for Michelle too.
Would agree Long Con vote is sketchy but the attitude is towny.

Thinking better [VOTE: cat] aubergine

Didn't you say i'm town? What changed your mind?

natalija made an undeclared vote on Jiwon. Also no explanation. So them and Falcon are my scum pool right now.

Wilgy is the towniest player so far (never thought I'd say that), Michelle has been fairly townie and would be extremely so if Falcon is scum. I still townread LC. Everyone else is null.

How does your reads look if I'm town? Which is a guarantee btw.

I still think the wagon that ballooned on Jiwon for no apparent reason was incredibly sketchy. Where I'm standing, the vote movements point towards Jiwon being the 8 ball for being run up very fast the moment D1 started. The fact that it quickly dismantled after I pointed that out suggests that mafia realized they were a bit too obvious and are trying to hide.

So if you're town, I'd look elsewhere on the initial Jiwon wagon for mafia.

I disagree, i dont think Jiwon is the called shot, but im biased because i found D0 sus myself. 3 votes immediatly is obvious to begin with, and shows that atleast 2 townies thought they were being sus. It's most likely Wilgy or me as the called shot.
No self-respecting mafia runs up on their target the instant D1 starts. It's more likely Jiwon is a regular townie or mafia and the other mafia is turning a 2 vote to 3 and making it look like they are LHF. But that's a big brain play so i'm not going after it.

I thought you parked the vote on me and vanished.
Reads are not set in stone.

What makes Long Con's attitude towny?


Do you expect mafia to play as if they are respecting themselves?

[Michelle]

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Who has infiltrated the FBI?
Poll runs till Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:24 pm
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Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
cat
1
7%
Voters: Michelle
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
3
21%
Voters: JiwonMeganPark, Alison, Long Con
JiwonMeganPark
2
14%
Voters: cat, Natalija
Long Con
1
7%
Voters: falcon45ca
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Natalija
1
7%
Voters: DrWilgy

Vote count now

Note: being the importance of VCs later in the game I think preserving them for refference is useful.

[Michelle]

FTR i think Natalie is LHF

I expect scum!Natalie to be more involved in the game.

Spoiler: show

I have 3 games iirc with her in my homeforum and her homeforum, and I saw her as town in those games.
If I forgot about one game is probably a mash in other site where my presence was lame and I really don't know who played it with few exceptions.

@Natalija please share reads

[DrWilgy]

@cat your vote doesn't make sense then. If you think there's a chance Jiwon is called or that Natalija and Jiwon are buddies, Why are you voting Jiwon instead of Natalija?

[Alison]

@cat your vote doesn't make sense then. If you think there's a chance Jiwon is called or that Natalija and Jiwon are buddies, Why are you voting Jiwon instead of Natalija?

Because they're Falcon's buddy and want a nightkill.

[falcon45ca]

Alison is pushing a lot of narratives right meow

[Alison]

Alison is pushing a lot of narratives right meow

Offer an alternative explanation for why 3 poorly-reasoned votes materialized on Jiwon the instant the game started.

Tell me why the wagon on Jiwon is pure.

[falcon45ca]

Alison is pushing a lot of narratives right meow

Offer an alternative explanation for why 3 poorly-reasoned votes materialized on Jiwon the instant the game started.

Tell me why the wagon on Jiwon is pure.

I can't speak for others, I only know why I voted for her. As I've said, I didn't like her post about Nanook, so I voted to put a bit of pressure on her. Dr W gave her a 50/50 with a post that also had no reasoning behind the reads. Nat is the one who didn't post anything & voted for Jiwan.



Tell me why the wagon on Jiwan is corrupt

[Alison]

Tell me why the wagon on Jiwan is corrupt

Because I haven't seen a single compelling reason given as to why they're scum. The absolute most is... that they're a sycophant for trying to suck up to nanook. The wagon formation makes me suspect they're the 8 ball, as stated previously. Unless I've missed something, Nata still hasn't given a reason for the naked vote, and as Wilgy has already pointed out, cat's vote there doesn't make much sense.

[Alison]

If you're town surely you should be investigating the possibility that you're being played. You've admitted that you don't understand why others are sheeping the wagon on Jiwon. From the POV of a town Falcon, wouldn't you suspect that maybe your initial scumread on Jiwon was being used by mafia members?

[falcon45ca]

If you're town surely you should be investigating the possibility that you're being played. You've admitted that you don't understand why others are sheeping the wagon on Jiwon. From the POV of a town Falcon, wouldn't you suspect that maybe your initial scumread on Jiwon was being used by mafia members?

I'm suspicious of Nat, and I'm null on Dr W.

[Alison]

If you're town surely you should be investigating the possibility that you're being played. You've admitted that you don't understand why others are sheeping the wagon on Jiwon. From the POV of a town Falcon, wouldn't you suspect that maybe your initial scumread on Jiwon was being used by mafia members?

I'm suspicious of Nat, and I'm null on Dr W.

ok.

Overtime Mafia just ended, kinda badly, so I'll be attending to that for a bit and I'll sleep on this stuff and come back and see.

[falcon45ca]

If you're town surely you should be investigating the possibility that you're being played. You've admitted that you don't understand why others are sheeping the wagon on Jiwon. From the POV of a town Falcon, wouldn't you suspect that maybe your initial scumread on Jiwon was being used by mafia members?

I'm suspicious of Nat, and I'm null on Dr W.

ok.

Overtime Mafia just ended, kinda badly, so I'll be attending to that for a bit and I'll sleep on this stuff and come back and see.

Oh snap, I'll go take a peek at what happened

[Alison]

If you're town surely you should be investigating the possibility that you're being played. You've admitted that you don't understand why others are sheeping the wagon on Jiwon. From the POV of a town Falcon, wouldn't you suspect that maybe your initial scumread on Jiwon was being used by mafia members?

I'm suspicious of Nat, and I'm null on Dr W.

ok.

Overtime Mafia just ended, kinda badly, so I'll be attending to that for a bit and I'll sleep on this stuff and come back and see.

Oh snap, I'll go take a peek at what happened

Someone pulled a SixFoot, basically.

[falcon45ca]

If you're town surely you should be investigating the possibility that you're being played. You've admitted that you don't understand why others are sheeping the wagon on Jiwon. From the POV of a town Falcon, wouldn't you suspect that maybe your initial scumread on Jiwon was being used by mafia members?

I'm suspicious of Nat, and I'm null on Dr W.

ok.

Overtime Mafia just ended, kinda badly, so I'll be attending to that for a bit and I'll sleep on this stuff and come back and see.

Oh snap, I'll go take a peek at what happened

Someone pulled a SixFoot, basically.

Jesus. Fuck that sucks

[JiwonMeganPark]

Unpopular opinion:
I knew Nanook wasn't in the game

[falcon45ca]

Unpopular opinion:
I knew Nanook wasn't in the game

That makes your ass-kissey post even scummier

[Michelle]

Unpopular opinion:
I knew Nanook wasn't in the game

Why did you post that then?

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Jiwon ] aubergine

[Michelle]

Tied wagons can bring something, probably

Eod is too quiet

[Michelle]

It is correct that is around 1 hour until Eod?

Where is everyone?

@Alison
@cat
@DrWilgy
@falcon45ca
@JiwonMeganPark
@Long Con
@Natalija

[cat]

Yo, sorry i was here around 2 hours ago but i had to leave for a bit. I'm around for the rest of the phase.

[cat]

No i change my mind. My theory is Jiwon and Natalija are buddies.
[VOTE: JiwonMeganPark] aubergine

Why?

You voting eachother felt a little random and it fits with my theory.

I disagree, i dont think Jiwon is the called shot, but im biased because i found D0 sus myself. 3 votes immediatly is obvious to begin with, and shows that atleast 2 townies thought they were being sus. It's most likely Wilgy or me as the called shot.
No self-respecting mafia runs up on their target the instant D1 starts. It's more likely Jiwon is a regular townie or mafia and the other mafia is turning a 2 vote to 3 and making it look like they are LHF. But that's a big brain play so i'm not going after it.

First of all, how do you know there's 2 townies on Jiwon? Why can't both mafia be on them?

Second, if Jiwon was legitimately scummy and was being voted by townies, wouldn't those townies give a strong case on them or provide reasoning as to why they're scum? LIke part of the reason I called Jiwon as the 8ball was because the votes that were put on them came completely out of the blue, and were unsupported by a believable progression and sometimes completely naked/unannounced.

There is little reasoning i agree, one person only provided some empty reads and voted after, another voted at the start of the phase and explained as the phase is going, and third didn't even let people know they voted at first, but theres still guaranteed 1 or more townie in there.
Not everyone is gonna provide cases, especially when reasoning is N0.

I'm one of the townies who thinks Jiwon was being sus D0.

[DrWilgy]

If this is going to go this way I'll prefer Falcon over Jiwon.

Jiwon is more likely the 8-ball.

Alison's argument for Falcon makes sense.

I'd still prefer Natalija if anyone would like to move.

[falcon45ca]

It is correct that is around 1 hour until Eod?

Where is everyone?

@Alison
@cat
@DrWilgy
@falcon45ca
@JiwonMeganPark
@Long Con
@Natalija

I'm here

[falcon45ca]

If this is going to go this way I'll prefer Falcon over Jiwon.

Jiwon is more likely the 8-ball.

Alison's argument for Falcon makes sense.

I'd still prefer Natalija if anyone would like to move.

Love you too....ya bastard

[cat]

What makes Long Con's attitude towny?


Do you expect mafia to play as if they are respecting themselves?

Relaxed reaction to pressure.
I'd hope so.

[Michelle]

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Who has infiltrated the FBI?
Poll runs till Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:24 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
cat
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
4
29%
Voters: DrWilgy, JiwonMeganPark, Alison, Long Con
JiwonMeganPark
3
21%
Voters: Michelle, cat, Natalija
Long Con
1
7%
Voters: falcon45ca
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Natalija
0
No votes
Voters: None

Vc

[Michelle]

I don't like this silence folks

[cat]

I'll move to Natalija, i still think Falcon is townier than either of them.
[VOTE: Natalija] aubergine

[DrWilgy]

If this is going to go this way I'll prefer Falcon over Jiwon.

Jiwon is more likely the 8-ball.

Alison's argument for Falcon makes sense.

I'd still prefer Natalija if anyone would like to move.

Love you too....ya bastard

Wanna yeet Natalija with me?

[falcon45ca]

If this is going to go this way I'll prefer Falcon over Jiwon.

Jiwon is more likely the 8-ball.

Alison's argument for Falcon makes sense.

I'd still prefer Natalija if anyone would like to move.

Love you too....ya bastard

Wanna yeet Natalija with me?

Sure! Real bonding moment, I like it, and Nat ain't been' towny that I can see

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Natalija] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

I don't like this silence folks

Who were you in the Simpsons game?

[falcon45ca]

That was my 1st game on Syndicate, and what with all the sock puppets, I never got to know who many of the players are

[cat]

FTR i think Natalie is LHF

I expect scum!Natalie to be more involved in the game.

Spoiler: show

I have 3 games iirc with her in my homeforum and her homeforum, and I saw her as town in those games.
If I forgot about one game is probably a mash in other site where my presence was lame and I really don't know who played it with few exceptions.

@Natalija please share reads

They seems to have left the game completely though, what are your thoughts if you assume Natalija just joined the game and these are their posts?

[JiwonMeganPark]

Unpopular opinion:
I knew Nanook wasn't in the game

Why did you post that then?

funny
imagine joining for a game to play with someone you like but they then you learn they are in different game

[Michelle]

I don't like this silence folks

Who were you in the Simpsons game?

Bart Simpson

[falcon45ca]

Unpopular opinion:
I knew Nanook wasn't in the game

Why did you post that then?

funny
imagine joining for a game to play with someone you like but they then you learn they are in different game

I've heard worse jokes, but not many

[Michelle]

FTR i think Natalie is LHF

I expect scum!Natalie to be more involved in the game.

Spoiler: show

I have 3 games iirc with her in my homeforum and her homeforum, and I saw her as town in those games.
If I forgot about one game is probably a mash in other site where my presence was lame and I really don't know who played it with few exceptions.

@Natalija please share reads

They seems to have left the game completely though, what are your thoughts if you assume Natalija just joined the game and these are their posts?

Lazyness doesn't come so often from village

[Michelle]

FTR i think Natalie is LHF

I expect scum!Natalie to be more involved in the game.

Spoiler: show

I have 3 games iirc with her in my homeforum and her homeforum, and I saw her as town in those games.
If I forgot about one game is probably a mash in other site where my presence was lame and I really don't know who played it with few exceptions.

@Natalija please share reads

They seems to have left the game completely though, what are your thoughts if you assume Natalija just joined the game and these are their posts?

Lazyness doesn't come so often from village?

I thought i put a question mark.
ebwop

[Michelle]

Wolves are relaxed i guess

[Michelle]

I would vote someone who doesn't care about the game but posted like they would

[falcon45ca]

I would vote someone who doesn't care about the game but posted like they would

Who would that be for you at this point?

[falcon45ca]

I'm wary of Alison right now

[Michelle]

I'm wary of Alison right now

Mindmeld

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

[Michelle]

I can vote Jiwon too