The Syndicate

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:59 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:53 am
Nicol Bolas wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:29 am
Made wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:53 am I’m still trying to figure the rules out. Are we supposed to tap the marmot?
Apparently there's a lot of people who can't understand the rules

I'm just going to appoint myself the official "rules understander"

Come to me for any setup questions
how do lands and energy tapping work?

Anything specific you want to know?

Lands will give a player 1 mana of the specified kind. Giving mana is a day action, and gives the player mana to use at night. The action of who gets the mana will be locked in 12 hours pre-EoD. All mana is lost at the start of each day. Mafia has an artifact which will do 4 damage to a targeted played for every mana they were given from a different player.

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:00 am**

i'm pogging up guys, now that i sort of loosely understand what's happening. this shit fucks. B)

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:01 am**

Nicol Bolas wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:59 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:53 am
Nicol Bolas wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:29 am
Made wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:53 am I’m still trying to figure the rules out. Are we supposed to tap the marmot?
Apparently there's a lot of people who can't understand the rules

I'm just going to appoint myself the official "rules understander"

Come to me for any setup questions
how do lands and energy tapping work?
Anything specific you want to know?

Lands will give a player 1 mana of the specified kind. Giving mana is a day action, and gives the player mana to use at night. The action of who gets the mana will be locked in 12 hours pre-EoD. All mana is lost at the start of each day. Mafia has an artifact which will do 4 damage to a targeted played for every mana they were given from a different player.

and the reason to send someone mana is if you have reason to believe that they need more than they can personally produce?

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:01 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:58 am OK SO

Purely hypothetically, say i have 2 lands which create the enery

what is a kicker? what does it mean when there is a gray circle with a number inside of it?

what is tapping, does tapping destroy the lands? is energy continually produced?

A kicker is an additional cost which can optionally be paid to give you an additional effect on top of the cards normal effect. The gray circle with a number inside of it indicates ANY kind of mana can be used, and the number is how much mana is required. A gray circle with a tilted square inside means SPECIFICALLY colorless mana. Tapping is basically activating; it has the same meaning of just using the ability.

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:02 am**

Also, tapping will not destroy anything, unless specified otherwise in the card text.

"and the reason to send someone mana is if you have reason to believe that they need more than they can personally produce?"

Yes, but it should not said in thread you're doing it, because of the mafia artifact.

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:04 am**

is there any reason to ever not tap a land?

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:04 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:04 am is there any reason to ever not tap a land?

No, and if you do not send in an action for you land, the land will automatically be tapped and give you it's mana.

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:05 am**

thank you for opening up my mind Nicol Bolas

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:06 am**

Nicol Bolas wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:04 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:04 am is there any reason to ever not tap a land?
No, and if you do not send in an action for you land, the land will automatically be tapped and give you it's mana.

wait it looks to me like lands are automatically untapped?

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:08 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:06 am
Nicol Bolas wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:04 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:04 am is there any reason to ever not tap a land?
No, and if you do not send in an action for you land, the land will automatically be tapped and give you it's mana.
wait it looks to me like lands are automatically untapped?

At the start of each day phase, everything is untapped. Tapping is activating land. You can use each land once a day phase, like if it were a normal ability. Untapping, then, is just terminology to say you are then able to activate the land again.

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:12 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:53 am "Each player will be assigned a planeswalker that possesses artifact(s), and three land cards.

The three lands will match the color identity of said planeswalker.

Each player begins the game with 10 life."

life and mana are separate resources, as are lands

lands have to be tapped to get mana which is something i don't totally understand

mafia has a factional kill that does 10 damage and costs mana for them. the mana cost reduces as they get yote, they can also deal 4x damage of recieved mana (which i think unfortunately counters jack's strategy?) this also costs them mana, it seems generally a bad idea to discuss how we will be sending our energies.

everything costs mana but getting mana is a point of confusion still, involves tapping lands. review this

exiling is yeeting with no role reveal. normally when yeeted, all info is revealed, planeswalker, land cards, and artifacts

mafia are also able to pay life (or 2 energy?) to either reveal the current life to all living wolves, this is the only way to find out someone's life total (it's a tutuu promis) if a player takes damage they do NOT know about it.

5 posts per day required this is not anything to do with MtG i just think it's interesting

mafia have fake claims

there is an order of operations for actions which is:
► Show Spoiler
Order of operations:

1. Stuff that are uncounterable (for example one of the Mafia Factional Artifacts I showed earlier)

2. Countermagic

3. Non damaging abilities

4. Damaging abilities (for example the Mafia Factional Kill)

-Instant effects such as those of the Lifescope happen instantly and don't get resolved the same way as standard actions.

Order of counterspell resolution in case of multiple:
A counters B. B counters A. Both get countered.
A counters B. B counters C. C counters B. A gets resolved first since it's untouched, countering B. C is left untouched.
A counters B. B counters C. C counters A. All three get countered.

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:13 am**

Are the houses above the bears head supposed to mean the post is towny?

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:13 am**

ok so the flowchart:

early day: tap that, send mana?
night: get mana, use artifacts if applicable
repeat?

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:15 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:13 am ok so the flowchart:

early day: tap that, send mana?
night: get mana, use artifacts if applicable
repeat?

early day = the first 36 hours of a 48 hour day phase

Night is correct.

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:22 am**

so for example let's pretend i am *googles* uhhhhh Sorin, Lord of Innistrad, one of the hot vampires from MtG, and i have an ability that uses uh... .fuckin.... the spooky skull energy and whatever the red one is, and a kicker that requires some additional energy

if my lands are spooky skull place and red place, i wouldn't necessarily need to interact with the trading mechanic unless i want to use the kicker

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:25 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:22 am so for example let's pretend i am *googles* uhhhhh Sorin, Lord of Innistrad, one of the hot vampires from MtG, and i have an ability that uses uh... .fuckin.... the spooky skull energy and whatever the red one is, and a kicker that requires some additional energy

if my lands are spooky skull place and red place, i wouldn't necessarily need to interact with the trading mechanic unless i want to use the kicker

Just call all colors by their color. That's their literal name

Blue
Black
White
Green
Red

Anyways, yes, you would be able to use the normal effect, but would need more mana to spend it on the additional effect of the kicker, if you wanted the kickers effect

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:26 am**

the problem with the color naming scheme is that they're denoted by symbols which have nothing to do with their colors lol

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:27 am**

ok i understand everything now

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:28 am**

or at least the sun one does

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:35 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:26 am the problem with the color naming scheme is that they're denoted by symbols which have nothing to do with their colors lol

The wacky symbols have everything to do with the colors!

Sun = Plains = White
Skull = Swamp = Black
Water Drop = Island = Blue
Fireball = Mountain = Red
Tree = Forest = Green

The above will always be true.

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:38 am**

why don't they just make the symbols be the color that they are?

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:39 am**

having black and white both be basically identical shades of gray is confusing and dishonest, i'm gonna tweet at the wizard of the coast

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:39 am**

colorless is of course, also a shade of gray

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:48 am**

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:48 am**

like why is sun plains white in the first place? just have it be yellow and be done with it. make the swamp purple.

i'm starting own my new trading card game called super magic the gathering and all that's different is the colors are corrected to be more aesthetically pleasant

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:48 am**

my company will be called "sorcerers at the beach" if anyone wants in at the ground floor

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:53 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:48 am like why is sun plains white in the first place? just have it be yellow and be done with it. make the swamp purple.

i'm starting own my new trading card game called super magic the gathering and all that's different is the colors are corrected to be more aesthetically pleasant

Yeah, this is ridiculous and confusing! How can they expect a person to understand this kooky colour razzle dazzle?

Can you believe this game is appropriate for kids ages 13+?

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:55 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:48 am my company will be called "sorcerers at the beach" if anyone wants in at the ground floor

How many floors are there going to be? Cuz I'd like a window with a view overlooking the river plz

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:56 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:48 amsup

Hey, are you town or mafia?

It'll say in your PM, double check plz

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:56 am**

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:58 am**

Great, Marmot's on ayahuasca or sumfin'

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:00 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:00 pm I mean ,Texas Holdem poker is objectively the best card game in my experience.

wolfy contradiction

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:00 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:55 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:48 am my company will be called "sorcerers at the beach" if anyone wants in at the ground floor
How many floors are there going to be? Cuz I'd like a window with a view overlooking the river plz

just the one floor and it's gonna be a basement

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:01 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:56 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:48 amsup
Hey, are you town or mafia?

It'll say in your PM, double check plz

i think 3rd party, but since you asked, i can’t let you down

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:01 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:53 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:48 am like why is sun plains white in the first place? just have it be yellow and be done with it. make the swamp purple.

i'm starting own my new trading card game called super magic the gathering and all that's different is the colors are corrected to be more aesthetically pleasant
Yeah, this is ridiculous and confusing! How can they expect a person to understand this kooky colour razzle dazzle?

Can you believe this game is appropriate for kids ages 13+?

ok really it's just the white energy and the tenuous connection to plains that's confusing but also not confusing because it doesn't matter that much

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:03 am**

hmm nevermind it would appear as if i’m a villager

shucks

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:04 am**

oh and... colorless energy works only for things that use colorless energy, or is it more of a wildcard

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:04 am**

Nicol town lean for explaining the rules in a very responsible manner. Clearly he has his GED.

Scum lean for Kylemii for adding confusion and silliness to the answers of his questions. Feels like he wants there to be a certain chaos surrounding things ATM

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:05 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:01 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:56 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:48 amsup
Hey, are you town or mafia?

It'll say in your PM, double check plz
i think 3rd party, but since you asked, i can’t let you down

This is so cheeky it's probably true

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:05 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:04 am oh and... colorless energy works only for things that use colorless energy, or is it more of a wildcard

colorless can be used for generic colorless (the number) and colorless

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:06 am**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:03 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:43 pm Fetch, shock, tap blood crypt for Thoughtseize.

Bolas revealed scum.

Jack revealed scum.

Hk town.

LC town.

Falcon town.

Guillotine for some reason mulled to 0 so no data.
exile Brainstorm, cast force of will on your thoughtseize

Exile Simian Spirit Guide, cast Red Elemental Blast on Force of Will.

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:06 am**

whyy is poison town? give me 5 reasons

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:07 am**

LIGHT BULB!

What if we assign a point system not unlike our own Life pts (10) to the lynch, and truly embrace this points driven game????

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:08 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:07 am LIGHT BULB!

What if we assign a point system not unlike our own Life pts (10) to the lynch, and truly embrace this points driven game????

what does that mean

please expand

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:08 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:06 am whyy is poison town? give me 5 reasons

I'll give ya 10.

#1, he's not, so fuck the other 9

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:08 am**

Nicol Bolas wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:52 pm Before someone naively criticizes me for considering Wilgy making a joke post be a departure from his meta of making home posts, I'll explain more. Wilgy typically opens claiming doctor, and is known for slanking and generally not giving many reads. Not giving reads is something Wilgy commonly gets flak for, something he wants to avoid if scum. Thus, the fact his joke is replaced with outing reads is notable to me

Drop a snow-covered plains. Boros Charm Bolas for 4.

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:11 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:08 am
Poison wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:06 am whyy is poison town? give me 5 reasons
I'll give ya 10.

#1, he's not, so fuck the other 9

poison is not a he. so you are incorrect. so she is town. we don't need the other 9 anymore.

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:13 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:08 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:07 am LIGHT BULB!

What if we assign a point system not unlike our own Life pts (10) to the lynch, and truly embrace this points driven game????
what does that mean

please expand

We elect a leader, obvs me since I started the town core and prolly played Magic before everyone but God.

I shall, as a benevolent dictator, assign judgement on what players present for either town or scum points: eg Marmot says Nicol is town cuz of X. I decree it to be true, and assing 1 town point to Nicol. Same for scum points. Both points are measured independently.

Player with the most scum points gets lynched. In the event of a tie, player with most town points lives.

Somebody else has to keep track of my decrees tho, cuz I'm busy.

Thoughts?

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:14 am**

can i introduce an alternative

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:14 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:11 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:08 am
Poison wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:06 am whyy is poison town? give me 5 reasons
I'll give ya 10.

#1, he's not, so fuck the other 9
poison is not a he. so you are incorrect. so she is town. we don't need the other 9 anymore.

Apologies, my mobile doesn't show the pronouns.

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