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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:14 pm
by Esooa
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:13 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:51 pm
mansicks had a tonal shift after I called him out that I found interesting
he went from a tone of appeasement to antagonizing
I'd guess scum!mansnicks trying to be jokey and such in thread would continue that and not push me on page 2 just because I scum read him lightly
however I'm also a bit confused by the tonal shift regardless and will be thinking about it more

You are confused by a tonal shift of a new player that started lighthearted and got accused and voted in the first page? How is that confusing? How is that interesting? It's a very normal reaction. {vote]Esooa[/vote] You're just getting revved up, but I can see your wolfy engine growling.
mansnicks wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:09 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:06 pm
Also can you link me all the forum games you've played please?
Ohh, really? You sure?
Yeah.. would be NICE if people sent you their past games so you can READ THEM, right?
It really would, I agree.
Scum Game
Scum Game
Town Game
Town Game
3p Game
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:24 pm
So from what I gather, everyone except Alison is derpcleared, and Alison is 3p, right? Sounds like the game is mostly wrapped up then, so I'mma just go collect some pollen and make some honey.
That's mean, you're mean.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:36 pm
game is moving so fast no one will notice I'm gay
what theres gay in this game what
what's wolfy about it? Do you not understand the relevance?
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:15 pm
by falcon45ca
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:06 pm
falcon what is your mansicks read
Mansicks def knows more than he's letting on, seems more than familiar with Mafia jargon and gameplay.
Whether that makes him scum or not I haven't decided
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:16 pm
by Long Con
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:14 pmwhat's wolfy about it? Do you not understand the relevance?
His reaction was very normal and easily predictable.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:17 pm
by Long Con
Our new friend has two 'n's in their name.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:17 pm
by Esooa
by confused about it I meant I wasn't sure how to read it. Is it wolfy defensiveness? Is it a normal townie responding that way? I mention it to take note and compare to how their tone continues
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:17 pm
by Long Con
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:17 pm
by confused about it I meant I wasn't sure how to read it. Is it wolfy defensiveness? Is it a normal townie responding that way? I mention it to take note and compare to how their tone continues
Maybee.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:18 pm
by c4e5g3d5
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:13 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:02 pm
The way Alison keeps latching onto minutiae looks like a townie looking for an easy answer too soon more than actually trying to push an agenda, think it's a good look. Someone familiar with Alison tell me if this is AI.
I'm sure Alison having you as her strongest town read doesn't hurt either, m'iright?
Can you just... take a moment to write one actual read
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:18 pm
by Esooa
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:16 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:14 pmwhat's wolfy about it? Do you not understand the relevance?
His reaction was very normal and easily predictable.
disagree
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:19 pm
by Esooa
my expectation from a new player being accused, specifically with the flattering, overly joyful time mannsick had at the time, is further appeasement. "Sorry you got that impression but I'm town" kinda thing
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:23 pm
by falcon45ca
mansnicks wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:52 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:42 pm
mansnicks wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:41 pm
Free Town Points to anyone listing their last few Town and Mafia games, preferable ISO links.
I still haven't found the ISO buttons. xD
would you actually read all those?
ofc not all, but as the game goes on, I'd look up some to make decisions yes.
Without having even the slightest idea of a players metagame - reading them is just a fools attempt and is random honestly.
So you're only able to make reads based off player's meta? Is this what you're telling us?
I understand the idea that your reads w/o meta being correct may have a sense of randomness, but surely your read aren't just random?
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:23 pm
by Esooa
mansnick lol sorry
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:27 pm
by c4e5g3d5
@falcon45ca please for the love of all things good put the shade down for two seconds an actually say one fucking read
[VOTE:
falcon45ca] aubergine
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:27 pm
by falcon45ca
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:13 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:02 pm
The way Alison keeps latching onto minutiae looks like a townie looking for an easy answer too soon more than actually trying to push an agenda, think it's a good look. Someone familiar with Alison tell me if this is AI.
I'm sure Alison having you as her strongest town read doesn't hurt either, m'iright?
Can you just... take a moment to write one actual read
Rome wasn't built in a day.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:28 pm
by Esooa
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:27 pm
@falcon45ca please for the love of all things good put the shade down for two seconds an actually say one fucking read
[VOTE:
falcon45ca] aubergine
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:11 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:11 pm
for some reason people always ask what do I mean by approach
you've previously expressed stuff like not being listened to as much as you want, wondering why you're scum read so much as town, etc
is there any particular way you're trying to navigate this game to address those?
Yes, calm tf down
bump. lol
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:28 pm
by c4e5g3d5
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:27 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:13 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:02 pm
The way Alison keeps latching onto minutiae looks like a townie looking for an easy answer too soon more than actually trying to push an agenda, think it's a good look. Someone familiar with Alison tell me if this is AI.
I'm sure Alison having you as her strongest town read doesn't hurt either, m'iright?
Can you just... take a moment to write one actual read
Rome wasn't built in a day.
I get not rushing but using your time here on buckets of shade instead is just bad.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:29 pm
by c4e5g3d5
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:28 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:27 pm
@falcon45ca please for the love of all things good put the shade down for two seconds an actually say one fucking read
[VOTE:
falcon45ca] aubergine
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:11 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:11 pm
for some reason people always ask what do I mean by approach
you've previously expressed stuff like not being listened to as much as you want, wondering why you're scum read so much as town, etc
is there any particular way you're trying to navigate this game to address those?
Yes, calm tf down
bump. lol
Oops
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:29 pm
by falcon45ca
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:27 pm
@falcon45ca please for the love of all things good put the shade down for two seconds an actually say one fucking read
[VOTE:
falcon45ca] aubergine
We're like 3 hours into the game dude. I'm not sorry that I'm not throwing reads around like mad, and I find it strange you expect it so early. You seem to be almost demanding it in fact.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:32 pm
by Long Con
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:29 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:27 pm
@falcon45ca please for the love of all things good put the shade down for two seconds an actually say one fucking read
[VOTE:
falcon45ca] aubergine
We're like 3 hours into the game dude. I'm not sorry that I'm not throwing reads around like mad, and I find it strange you expect it so early. You seem to be almost demanding it in fact.
I beelieve the same.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:32 pm
by falcon45ca
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:27 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:13 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:02 pm
The way Alison keeps latching onto minutiae looks like a townie looking for an easy answer too soon more than actually trying to push an agenda, think it's a good look. Someone familiar with Alison tell me if this is AI.
I'm sure Alison having you as her strongest town read doesn't hurt either, m'iright?
Can you just... take a moment to write one actual read
Rome wasn't built in a day.
I get not rushing but using your time here on buckets of shade instead is just bad.
Buckets of shade, eh? I see you're prone to exaggeration.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:32 pm
by Esooa
why has the day start been so slow? Maybe I'm just hype to play but I feel like I would have expected more players to check in by now
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:33 pm
by Esooa
what do people think of seanzies check in?
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:34 pm
by c4e5g3d5
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:32 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:27 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:13 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:02 pm
The way Alison keeps latching onto minutiae looks like a townie looking for an easy answer too soon more than actually trying to push an agenda, think it's a good look. Someone familiar with Alison tell me if this is AI.
I'm sure Alison having you as her strongest town read doesn't hurt either, m'iright?
Can you just... take a moment to write one actual read
Rome wasn't built in a day.
I get not rushing but using your time here on buckets of shade instead is just bad.
Buckets of shade, eh? I see you're prone to exaggeration.
Your only non-shade post is your first.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:35 pm
by Long Con
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:33 pm
what do people think of seanzies check in?
Super hurtful.

Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:35 pm
by c4e5g3d5
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:33 pm
what do people think of seanzies check in?
Wait Seanzie checked in
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:39 pm
by Long Con
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:35 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:33 pm
what do people think of seanzies check in?
Wait Seanzie checked in
Yeah it was super sketchy

Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:40 pm
by falcon45ca
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:32 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:27 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:13 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:02 pm
The way Alison keeps latching onto minutiae looks like a townie looking for an easy answer too soon more than actually trying to push an agenda, think it's a good look. Someone familiar with Alison tell me if this is AI.
I'm sure Alison having you as her strongest town read doesn't hurt either, m'iright?
Can you just... take a moment to write one actual read
Rome wasn't built in a day.
I get not rushing but using your time here on buckets of shade instead is just bad.
Buckets of shade, eh? I see you're prone to exaggeration.
Your only non-shade post is your first.
Rome wasn't built in a day was a shade post? Pocket denied Esooa is a shade post? Calling you out for exaggeration is a shade post?
Is this a shade post too?
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:43 pm
by Seanzie
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:39 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:35 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:33 pm
what do people think of seanzies check in?
Wait Seanzie checked in
Yeah it was super sketchy
I see what you did there

Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:45 pm
by Esooa
have any reads seanzie?
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:46 pm
by c4e5g3d5
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:40 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:32 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:27 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:13 pm
I'm sure Alison having you as her strongest town read doesn't hurt either, m'iright?
Can you just... take a moment to write one actual read
Rome wasn't built in a day.
I get not rushing but using your time here on buckets of shade instead is just bad.
Buckets of shade, eh? I see you're prone to exaggeration.
Your only non-shade post is your first.
Rome wasn't built in a day was a shade post? Pocket denied Esooa is a shade post? Calling you out for exaggeration is a shade post?
Is this a shade post too?
No, yes, yes, no.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:48 pm
by Seanzie
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:45 pm
have any reads seanzie?
Not really. All I see is gray.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:54 pm
by falcon45ca
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:33 pm
what do people think of seanzies check in?
It's pretty null from where I'm sitting.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:57 pm
by c4e5g3d5
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:02 pm
The way Alison keeps latching onto minutiae looks like a townie looking for an easy answer too soon more than actually trying to push an agenda, think it's a good look. Someone familiar with Alison tell me if this is AI.
In case it got buried, still hoping for something on this.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:58 pm
by Long Con
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:57 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:02 pm
The way Alison keeps latching onto minutiae looks like a townie looking for an easy answer too soon more than actually trying to push an agenda, think it's a good look. Someone familiar with Alison tell me if this is AI.
In case it got buried, still hoping for something on this.
To me, that's just Alison's personality and method. I wouldn't call it AI.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:06 pm
by falcon45ca
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:58 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:57 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:02 pm
The way Alison keeps latching onto minutiae looks like a townie looking for an easy answer too soon more than actually trying to push an agenda, think it's a good look. Someone familiar with Alison tell me if this is AI.
In case it got buried, still hoping for something on this.
To me, that's just Alison's personality and method. I wouldn't call it AI.
Ditto
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:38 pm
by fingersplints
Happy to see the game has started, and that there is already lots of discussion. I just played a very quiet game, so it’s nice to see a chatty group.

It’s late for me tonight, but I’ll have a proper read of it all tomorrow.
hello juliets
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:42 pm
by Seanzie
Anyone who knows Alison better than I do, was her big 3p post anything worth reading into? I've only played one game with her (t/t) and she didn't strike me as someone who would write such a long jokepost like that.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:45 pm
by Esooa
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:42 pm
Anyone who knows Alison better than I do, was her big 3p post anything worth reading into? I've only played one game with her (t/t) and she didn't strike me as someone who would write such a long jokepost like that.
not worth reading into
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:52 pm
by Syn
alternatively: very worth reading into
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:53 pm
by Seanzie
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:52 pm
alternatively: very worth reading into
If it is very worth reading into, what do you get out of it?
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:58 pm
by falcon45ca
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:42 pm
Anyone who knows Alison better than I do, was her big 3p post anything worth reading into? I've only played one game with her (t/t) and she didn't strike me as someone who would write such a long jokepost like that.
Not worth getting into. She's making a joke off her recent Champs game victory as 3P
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:20 pm
by MartinGG99
I don't think I really see anything in this game so far.
I think the only thing I thought and agreed with is lc was towny for his vote.
I'm slightly paranoid of Alison coming in with a "joke/meme post" that only others in the GoC game would comprehend but then focuses on the newbie for this site, but other than this nothing really catches my eye.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:23 pm
by MartinGG99
Quick disclaimer here though, I *do* know Mansnicks (Or "OzyWho" on my homesite), but I really only know of him as an acquaintance when he played in one of my hosted games.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:32 pm
by MartinGG99
Why do I feel like I killed the thread or something
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:47 pm
by MartinGG99
Might as well put my recent games here for
@mansnicks and anyone else interested.
[town]
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 221&t=2044
[town]
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ripleHaven
[town]
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthre ... ling-Party
(Since the above leads to my homesite, I'll make it simple and put my ISO
link here)
[wolf]
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Game-Mafia
[wolf]
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthre ... dder-Game)
(Above also leads to my homesite.
ISO LINK HERE. Additionally, this is ancient and likely a poor representation of current possible scum meta. Aside from the other linked game, I haven't had a recent scum game where I dedicated much of myself to.)
I don't know how yall are going to find the time to read through them though.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:15 pm
by Ratrug
Bee
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:18 pm
by Seanzie
Not only did I find time to read through all these games, but I read through all the other games not listed here that you've played as well. After a careful analysis of every post you've ever made in a mafia game, cross referencing with the posts you've made in this game, I have determined that you, my friend, are a wolf. Gg, thanks for playing.
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:11 am
by ts account
is RVS over
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:30 am
by falcon45ca
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:18 pm
Not only did I find time to read through all these games, but I read through all the other games not listed here that you've played as well. After a careful analysis of every post you've ever made in a mafia game, cross referencing with the posts you've made in this game, I have determined that you, my friend, are a wolf. Gg, thanks for playing.
Oh my gawd.
I didn't know that Data played Mafia...or was not a fictional character.
This changes everything
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:42 am
by MartinGG99
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:30 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:18 pm
Not only did I find time to read through all these games, but I read through all the other games not listed here that you've played as well. After a careful analysis of every post you've ever made in a mafia game, cross referencing with the posts you've made in this game, I have determined that you, my friend, are a wolf. Gg, thanks for playing.
Oh my gawd.
I didn't know that Data played Mafia...or was not a fictional character.
This changes everything
You sure he's not just a mythical psychic-telepathically-linked king bee who used all the mindpower of the hivemind to just super bee the ultra-meta-read into existence
Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:44 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sup beople