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It's been dashed upon the rocks of the OPEpignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:13 pmTell me more about this wondering.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:35 pm I wonder if the flavour isn't Rogue's Gallery vs Bat Family? Surely it wouldn't be that ez, now would it?
How often does that work out in your experience?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:59 pmThe OP explains the rand, how there are fakeclaims, and characters are in no way tied to alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:57 pmI've already theorized that the Town is Batman's Rogue Gallery and Maf are from the Bat Family....so that's where I'm going with itMade wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:56 pmWhere are you going with this?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:54 pm Essoa claims Joker, I'm Scarecrow, Made is Talia al Guhl...
You're doing busywork to look busy.
Haha, I own the entire Animated Series on DVD, and saw Mask of the Phantasm in theatresEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:12 pmMade getting told on Batman lore.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:55 pmYou're right, she's not a hero.Made wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:55 pmI see…hmmm…I’m still a baddie tho
Like I'm getting what your scumread on Esooa from that 11 v 4 post is. Like you reading it and it just pings you. Feel like if you were mafia you would've come up with a reason, or changed the reason to get it past what I was saying.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:13 pmCould you elaborate on this please?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:11 pmThe way you're explaining it I think I get what you're talking about. It does make me lean you town currently.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:09 pmIt wasn't that she was excited for an 11 v 4. I can't really explain it, which is why it was a GUT read. I'm a very intuitive-type person, and I often can tell when things are true without fully knowing why they are true (and I live figuring out why once I have a good feeling). I am often wrong, but right enough that I trust myself (to a degree) without evidence to the contrary. I'm not saying my feeling about Esooa was like, super strong, but it was there. I read that post, and it didn't sit well. If I find the words to describe it, I will.
And fearsome rocks they do be.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:14 pmIt's been dashed upon the rocks of the OPEpignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:13 pmTell me more about this wondering.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:35 pm I wonder if the flavour isn't Rogue's Gallery vs Bat Family? Surely it wouldn't be that ez, now would it?
Hey Lime, wanna shield each other? Cause you town.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:16 pmLike I'm getting what your scumread on Esooa from that 11 v 4 post is. Like you reading it and it just pings you. Feel like if you were mafia you would've come up with a reason, or changed the reason to get it past what I was saying.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:13 pmCould you elaborate on this please?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:11 pmThe way you're explaining it I think I get what you're talking about. It does make me lean you town currently.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:09 pmIt wasn't that she was excited for an 11 v 4. I can't really explain it, which is why it was a GUT read. I'm a very intuitive-type person, and I often can tell when things are true without fully knowing why they are true (and I live figuring out why once I have a good feeling). I am often wrong, but right enough that I trust myself (to a degree) without evidence to the contrary. I'm not saying my feeling about Esooa was like, super strong, but it was there. I read that post, and it didn't sit well. If I find the words to describe it, I will.
I agreeEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:17 pmHey Lime, wanna shield each other? Cause you town.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:16 pmLike I'm getting what your scumread on Esooa from that 11 v 4 post is. Like you reading it and it just pings you. Feel like if you were mafia you would've come up with a reason, or changed the reason to get it past what I was saying.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:13 pmCould you elaborate on this please?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:11 pmThe way you're explaining it I think I get what you're talking about. It does make me lean you town currently.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:09 pmIt wasn't that she was excited for an 11 v 4. I can't really explain it, which is why it was a GUT read. I'm a very intuitive-type person, and I often can tell when things are true without fully knowing why they are true (and I live figuring out why once I have a good feeling). I am often wrong, but right enough that I trust myself (to a degree) without evidence to the contrary. I'm not saying my feeling about Esooa was like, super strong, but it was there. I read that post, and it didn't sit well. If I find the words to describe it, I will.
Awwww thank you.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:17 pmHey Lime, wanna shield each other? Cause you town.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:16 pmLike I'm getting what your scumread on Esooa from that 11 v 4 post is. Like you reading it and it just pings you. Feel like if you were mafia you would've come up with a reason, or changed the reason to get it past what I was saying.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:13 pmCould you elaborate on this please?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:11 pmThe way you're explaining it I think I get what you're talking about. It does make me lean you town currently.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:09 pmIt wasn't that she was excited for an 11 v 4. I can't really explain it, which is why it was a GUT read. I'm a very intuitive-type person, and I often can tell when things are true without fully knowing why they are true (and I live figuring out why once I have a good feeling). I am often wrong, but right enough that I trust myself (to a degree) without evidence to the contrary. I'm not saying my feeling about Esooa was like, super strong, but it was there. I read that post, and it didn't sit well. If I find the words to describe it, I will.
I found the D2 one.
People have hunted for years to find out how to work out when I'm wolf.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:18 pmAwwww thank you.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:17 pmHey Lime, wanna shield each other? Cause you town.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:16 pmLike I'm getting what your scumread on Esooa from that 11 v 4 post is. Like you reading it and it just pings you. Feel like if you were mafia you would've come up with a reason, or changed the reason to get it past what I was saying.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:13 pmCould you elaborate on this please?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:11 pmThe way you're explaining it I think I get what you're talking about. It does make me lean you town currently.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:09 pmIt wasn't that she was excited for an 11 v 4. I can't really explain it, which is why it was a GUT read. I'm a very intuitive-type person, and I often can tell when things are true without fully knowing why they are true (and I live figuring out why once I have a good feeling). I am often wrong, but right enough that I trust myself (to a degree) without evidence to the contrary. I'm not saying my feeling about Esooa was like, super strong, but it was there. I read that post, and it didn't sit well. If I find the words to describe it, I will.
I don't know about you though...
Need a bigger Grayhound and you lack the cushion.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:19 pmBus me harder daddy
But they're cute?
How often does what work out? Randing characters? Well, unless if you want to get into a debate about what we mean by a "random" sample, unless you believe Nook is lying, I'd say it works out quite well.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:14 pmHow often does that work out in your experience?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:59 pmThe OP explains the rand, how there are fakeclaims, and characters are in no way tied to alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:57 pmI've already theorized that the Town is Batman's Rogue Gallery and Maf are from the Bat Family....so that's where I'm going with itMade wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:56 pmWhere are you going with this?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:54 pm Essoa claims Joker, I'm Scarecrow, Made is Talia al Guhl...
You're doing busywork to look busy.
Well, take a picture first, then Vig the dog.
Hmm. You have a fair point.
Hey, look at how Epi is shading your read.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:20 pmHow often does what work out? Randing characters? Well, unless if you want to get into a debate about what we mean by a "random" sample, unless you believe Nook is lying, I'd say it works out quite well.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:14 pmHow often does that work out in your experience?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:59 pmThe OP explains the rand, how there are fakeclaims, and characters are in no way tied to alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:57 pmI've already theorized that the Town is Batman's Rogue Gallery and Maf are from the Bat Family....so that's where I'm going with itMade wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:56 pmWhere are you going with this?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:54 pm Essoa claims Joker, I'm Scarecrow, Made is Talia al Guhl...
You're doing busywork to look busy.
If you're talking about Falcon, I believe that pressuring my scumreads also works well. There is always the chance of accidentally tunneling, but applying pressure is a great way to generate more information that I can then reform stronger reads based on.
The shooting?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:21 pmWell, take a picture first, then Vig the dog.
You take a picture so it'll last longer. Pro tip
"You're doing busywork to look busy."Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:20 pmHow often does what work out? Randing characters? Well, unless if you want to get into a debate about what we mean by a "random" sample, unless you believe Nook is lying, I'd say it works out quite well.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:14 pmHow often does that work out in your experience?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:59 pmThe OP explains the rand, how there are fakeclaims, and characters are in no way tied to alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:57 pmI've already theorized that the Town is Batman's Rogue Gallery and Maf are from the Bat Family....so that's where I'm going with itMade wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:56 pmWhere are you going with this?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:54 pm Essoa claims Joker, I'm Scarecrow, Made is Talia al Guhl...
You're doing busywork to look busy.
If you're talking about Falcon, I believe that pressuring my scumreads also works well. There is always the chance of accidentally tunneling, but applying pressure is a great way to generate more information that I can then reform stronger reads based on.
I asked a question.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:21 pmHey, look at how Epi is shading your read.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:20 pmHow often does what work out? Randing characters? Well, unless if you want to get into a debate about what we mean by a "random" sample, unless you believe Nook is lying, I'd say it works out quite well.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:14 pmHow often does that work out in your experience?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:59 pmThe OP explains the rand, how there are fakeclaims, and characters are in no way tied to alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:57 pmI've already theorized that the Town is Batman's Rogue Gallery and Maf are from the Bat Family....so that's where I'm going with itMade wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:56 pmWhere are you going with this?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:54 pm Essoa claims Joker, I'm Scarecrow, Made is Talia al Guhl...
You're doing busywork to look busy.
If you're talking about Falcon, I believe that pressuring my scumreads also works well. There is always the chance of accidentally tunneling, but applying pressure is a great way to generate more information that I can then reform stronger reads based on.
Maybe wolf?
Look. Let me ignore all evidence and pretend you're just scum.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:25 pmI asked a question.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:21 pmHey, look at how Epi is shading your read.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:20 pmHow often does what work out? Randing characters? Well, unless if you want to get into a debate about what we mean by a "random" sample, unless you believe Nook is lying, I'd say it works out quite well.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:14 pmHow often does that work out in your experience?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:59 pmThe OP explains the rand, how there are fakeclaims, and characters are in no way tied to alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:57 pmI've already theorized that the Town is Batman's Rogue Gallery and Maf are from the Bat Family....so that's where I'm going with it
You're doing busywork to look busy.
If you're talking about Falcon, I believe that pressuring my scumreads also works well. There is always the chance of accidentally tunneling, but applying pressure is a great way to generate more information that I can then reform stronger reads based on.
Maybe wolf?
That's all.
The other party either ignored the question or misinterpreted it. I await clarification.
"Shading."
Okay.
don't be a wolf
yeah he seems fairly reactive and some of his reactions were kinda scummy ngl but like i just don't think he'd put himself so out in the open so early as scum. tbh his response to ur push was kinda towny. i'm sure it didn't rlly help u out but still that's the vibes i got.
I mean, if they're doing it right, I probably don't notice. If they're doing it wrong, it can be outing. So it has a myriad of results depending on the strength of the player, the situation, the strength of the town, and some random chance.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:23 pm"You're doing busywork to look busy."Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:20 pmHow often does what work out? Randing characters? Well, unless if you want to get into a debate about what we mean by a "random" sample, unless you believe Nook is lying, I'd say it works out quite well.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:14 pmHow often does that work out in your experience?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:59 pmThe OP explains the rand, how there are fakeclaims, and characters are in no way tied to alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:57 pmI've already theorized that the Town is Batman's Rogue Gallery and Maf are from the Bat Family....so that's where I'm going with itMade wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:56 pmWhere are you going with this?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:54 pm Essoa claims Joker, I'm Scarecrow, Made is Talia al Guhl...
You're doing busywork to look busy.
If you're talking about Falcon, I believe that pressuring my scumreads also works well. There is always the chance of accidentally tunneling, but applying pressure is a great way to generate more information that I can then reform stronger reads based on.
In my book, that's an accusation. A civilian has no need to look busy. Therefore you are accusing falcon of being duplicitous.
I asked you how often does "doing busywork to look busy" work for mafia members in your experience.
Loaded question.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:33 pmI mean, if they're doing it right, I probably don't notice. If they're doing it wrong, it can be outing. So it has a myriad of results depending on the strength of the player, the situation, the strength of the town, and some random chance.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:23 pm"You're doing busywork to look busy."Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:20 pmHow often does what work out? Randing characters? Well, unless if you want to get into a debate about what we mean by a "random" sample, unless you believe Nook is lying, I'd say it works out quite well.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:14 pmHow often does that work out in your experience?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:59 pmThe OP explains the rand, how there are fakeclaims, and characters are in no way tied to alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:57 pmI've already theorized that the Town is Batman's Rogue Gallery and Maf are from the Bat Family....so that's where I'm going with it
You're doing busywork to look busy.
If you're talking about Falcon, I believe that pressuring my scumreads also works well. There is always the chance of accidentally tunneling, but applying pressure is a great way to generate more information that I can then reform stronger reads based on.
In my book, that's an accusation. A civilian has no need to look busy. Therefore you are accusing falcon of being duplicitous.
I asked you how often does "doing busywork to look busy" work for mafia members in your experience.
You haven't outwardly taken a stance on my take yet, but it seems likely that you disagree with me about Falcon. If so, I think you are maybe making two mistakes,
1.) A better question to ask than "how well does this work for wolves?" is "how often do wolves do this?" Those are very different questions, and things like "busywork" and "IIOA" didn't become buzzwords in mafia for no reason.
2.) Pressure can be applied to weak reads. Do I think Falcon doing some busywork guarantees that Falcon is a wolf? no. But can I develop my read on Falcon based on how they react to me pressuring them about their posts looking like busywork? yes. Not all accusations are meant to be the end of the conversation, many (especially early game) are meant to push the game forward in a positive way.
So, now that that is over, please take a stance. What do you think of Falcon and his busywork?
I'd still like to hear your thoughts about Falcon. Unload the question however you want, you should take a stance there.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pmLoaded question.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:33 pmI mean, if they're doing it right, I probably don't notice. If they're doing it wrong, it can be outing. So it has a myriad of results depending on the strength of the player, the situation, the strength of the town, and some random chance.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:23 pm"You're doing busywork to look busy."Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:20 pmHow often does what work out? Randing characters? Well, unless if you want to get into a debate about what we mean by a "random" sample, unless you believe Nook is lying, I'd say it works out quite well.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:14 pmHow often does that work out in your experience?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:59 pmThe OP explains the rand, how there are fakeclaims, and characters are in no way tied to alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:57 pm
I've already theorized that the Town is Batman's Rogue Gallery and Maf are from the Bat Family....so that's where I'm going with it
You're doing busywork to look busy.
If you're talking about Falcon, I believe that pressuring my scumreads also works well. There is always the chance of accidentally tunneling, but applying pressure is a great way to generate more information that I can then reform stronger reads based on.
In my book, that's an accusation. A civilian has no need to look busy. Therefore you are accusing falcon of being duplicitous.
I asked you how often does "doing busywork to look busy" work for mafia members in your experience.
You haven't outwardly taken a stance on my take yet, but it seems likely that you disagree with me about Falcon. If so, I think you are maybe making two mistakes,
1.) A better question to ask than "how well does this work for wolves?" is "how often do wolves do this?" Those are very different questions, and things like "busywork" and "IIOA" didn't become buzzwords in mafia for no reason.
2.) Pressure can be applied to weak reads. Do I think Falcon doing some busywork guarantees that Falcon is a wolf? no. But can I develop my read on Falcon based on how they react to me pressuring them about their posts looking like busywork? yes. Not all accusations are meant to be the end of the conversation, many (especially early game) are meant to push the game forward in a positive way.
So, now that that is over, please take a stance. What do you think of Falcon and his busywork?
My vote on you stands.
I'll take a stance on falcon when I feel like it.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:36 pmI'd still like to hear your thoughts about Falcon. Unload the question however you want, you should take a stance there.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pmLoaded question.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:33 pmI mean, if they're doing it right, I probably don't notice. If they're doing it wrong, it can be outing. So it has a myriad of results depending on the strength of the player, the situation, the strength of the town, and some random chance.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:23 pm"You're doing busywork to look busy."Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:20 pmHow often does what work out? Randing characters? Well, unless if you want to get into a debate about what we mean by a "random" sample, unless you believe Nook is lying, I'd say it works out quite well.
If you're talking about Falcon, I believe that pressuring my scumreads also works well. There is always the chance of accidentally tunneling, but applying pressure is a great way to generate more information that I can then reform stronger reads based on.
In my book, that's an accusation. A civilian has no need to look busy. Therefore you are accusing falcon of being duplicitous.
I asked you how often does "doing busywork to look busy" work for mafia members in your experience.
You haven't outwardly taken a stance on my take yet, but it seems likely that you disagree with me about Falcon. If so, I think you are maybe making two mistakes,
1.) A better question to ask than "how well does this work for wolves?" is "how often do wolves do this?" Those are very different questions, and things like "busywork" and "IIOA" didn't become buzzwords in mafia for no reason.
2.) Pressure can be applied to weak reads. Do I think Falcon doing some busywork guarantees that Falcon is a wolf? no. But can I develop my read on Falcon based on how they react to me pressuring them about their posts looking like busywork? yes. Not all accusations are meant to be the end of the conversation, many (especially early game) are meant to push the game forward in a positive way.
So, now that that is over, please take a stance. What do you think of Falcon and his busywork?
My vote on you stands.
Humor me, please. Can you take a look at Falcon's ISO and give me a quick read?Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:37 pmI'll take a stance on falcon when I feel like it.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:36 pmI'd still like to hear your thoughts about Falcon. Unload the question however you want, you should take a stance there.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pmLoaded question.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:33 pmI mean, if they're doing it right, I probably don't notice. If they're doing it wrong, it can be outing. So it has a myriad of results depending on the strength of the player, the situation, the strength of the town, and some random chance.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:23 pm"You're doing busywork to look busy."Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:20 pmHow often does what work out? Randing characters? Well, unless if you want to get into a debate about what we mean by a "random" sample, unless you believe Nook is lying, I'd say it works out quite well.
If you're talking about Falcon, I believe that pressuring my scumreads also works well. There is always the chance of accidentally tunneling, but applying pressure is a great way to generate more information that I can then reform stronger reads based on.
In my book, that's an accusation. A civilian has no need to look busy. Therefore you are accusing falcon of being duplicitous.
I asked you how often does "doing busywork to look busy" work for mafia members in your experience.
You haven't outwardly taken a stance on my take yet, but it seems likely that you disagree with me about Falcon. If so, I think you are maybe making two mistakes,
1.) A better question to ask than "how well does this work for wolves?" is "how often do wolves do this?" Those are very different questions, and things like "busywork" and "IIOA" didn't become buzzwords in mafia for no reason.
2.) Pressure can be applied to weak reads. Do I think Falcon doing some busywork guarantees that Falcon is a wolf? no. But can I develop my read on Falcon based on how they react to me pressuring them about their posts looking like busywork? yes. Not all accusations are meant to be the end of the conversation, many (especially early game) are meant to push the game forward in a positive way.
So, now that that is over, please take a stance. What do you think of Falcon and his busywork?
My vote on you stands.
I have a stance on you.
This is a take with zero substance. This can go either way.Made wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:31 pmThis is really aggressive as town and as scum. No clue which is more likelyLime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:30 pmYou're doing my #1 scum tell over and over. You're down bad. Can you come back from this?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:28 pm Syn suggesting sleep before we have any info over the lack of info we might gather has me somewhat concerned
