The Syndicate

It’s a deal, Sig.

I was planning on being coy about my reads. But impatience.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:45 pm It’s a deal, Sig.

I was planning on being coy about my reads. But impatience.

@DrWilgy wanna join the cultcore? It's like a pyramid scheme the sooner you get in the better it'll be for you.

I'm the cop lol

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:17 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:07 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:05 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!

Should you be in this budding towncore?

Nah I think they're fine watching your core from the outside, waving at you, ready to give you emotional support.

So you townread all three?

The post was mostly a meme, but at the most I have a townlean on Falcon.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 pm Guys...Gavial is pinging me again...make him stop...

Particularly by doing this.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

Choo choo

@Dyslexicon

Okay so, the one time I caught Seanzie as mafia on this site he literally did next to nothing and basically outed a "This isn't w/w" read, nearly anti-spew at rand.

Is that actually just his mafia game and him actually doing things makes him town, or is he less polarized than I think he is?

I can't tell if I worded that correctly or not but what is making Seanzie in townrange?

I've seen sean as scum but I don't remember how he behaved. Does that help?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:02 pm I've seen sean as scum but I don't remember how he behaved. Does that help?

If it helps the game I'm referring my meta to is this game:

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2201

Where he did next to nothing.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:07 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:02 pm I've seen sean as scum but I don't remember how he behaved. Does that help?

If it helps the game I'm referring my meta to is this game:

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2201

Where he did next to nothing.

The game I'm referring my meta read towards Seanzie**

The two games I do recall sean being scum in were AIM Mafia and Condiment (on Mafia Cafe), and I believe he had BTSC with civilians in each game, and spent a good amount of energy pocketing said civilians there.

I don't remember much else tho.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:09 pm The two games I do recall sean being scum in were AIM Mafia and Condiment (on Mafia Cafe), and I believe he had BTSC with civilians in each game, and spent a good amount of energy pocketing said civilians there.

I don't remember much else tho.

I'll have to look at those at a separate time, thanks.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:34 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:07 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!

The fuck is this? Why do you post like you shouldnt be in the towncore of those you townread?

I’m not planning to be very active at the start of this.

Thread is quiet and I want the game to have a good start though.

Also, think I’ll exchange my Falcon for Guillo right now.

Sean is town. I know him, this be town.
Tony is town cause I can tell.
Guillo is probably town and Sean thinks so too so that’s good. Work together \o/
Lime is town because he’s cute and also real reasons.

^I think this is a nice town core to start with.
(Dis)agreements?

I could be mistaken, but I don't think you've ever actually seen me as scum, so you're going to have to do more than "I know him" to justify your read on me.

Tell me about Tony. I don't see town!Tony right now. I don't necessarily see scum!Tony either, but I don't see town!Tony. If you do, please elaborate.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:07 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:02 pm I've seen sean as scum but I don't remember how he behaved. Does that help?

If it helps the game I'm referring my meta to is this game:

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2201

Where he did next to nothing.

Ftr, I can wolf better than that on a good day, but I've had a few pretty bad scum games due to wolf fatigue. In particular, that one you quoted was after a few scum draws in a row, and Danganropa3 on MafC I was also pretty scum fatigued because it was like my third scum game in a row, so I didn't really perform super well.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:59 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 pm Guys...Gavial is pinging me again...make him stop...

Particularly by doing this.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

Choo choo

No. No, no, no, no, no.

If you want to kill alligators you need to give reasons.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:24 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:07 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:02 pm I've seen sean as scum but I don't remember how he behaved. Does that help?

If it helps the game I'm referring my meta to is this game:

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2201

Where he did next to nothing.

Ftr, I can wolf better than that on a good day, but I've had a few pretty bad scum games due to wolf fatigue. In particular, that one you quoted was after a few scum draws in a row, and Danganropa3 on MafC I was also pretty scum fatigued because it was like my third scum game in a row, so I didn't really perform super well.

Okay that's fair since I went through the same earlier this year.

I still don't have a direct read on you so I'm just giving time.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:45 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:57 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:53 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:15 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine

Why not Mac?

Because my read on Mac is much weaker than my read on Sig.

Why are you curious about "why not Mac", rather than Linearpoint?

I feel you've put more emphasis on Mac scum world than LP

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 pm Guys...Gavial is pinging me again...make him stop...

Particularly by doing this.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

I don’t like any of these 3 posts.

3rd one less so.
3rd one is just upsetting lol.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:26 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:59 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 pm Guys...Gavial is pinging me again...make him stop...

Particularly by doing this.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

Choo choo

No. No, no, no, no, no.

If you want to kill alligators you need to give reasons.

Excuse me! An Aligator isn’t a Gavial, know you’re animalography.
I’m not PL Bucky.
Why is Marmot Sheeping it though? That’s concerning that’s it’s specifically him doing it but meh.

Still standby this read:
Falcon/Guillotine/Seanzie contains 1 Wolf and 2 Town.

What are the odds Jack is wolf 5 times in a row and wins again while staying alive? Lol.

I’m honestly never opposing to a Jack yeet like ever lol.

I’m getting bad vibes on Dizzy though.

Hmm wait Dizzy is also voting me?


Welcome to the first of my scum pile!

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:02 pm I've seen sean as scum but I don't remember how he behaved. Does that help?

AIM Mafia.

Go review that game and get back to me on it.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:09 pm The two games I do recall sean being scum in were AIM Mafia and Condiment (on Mafia Cafe), and I believe he had BTSC with civilians in each game, and spent a good amount of energy pocketing said civilians there.

I don't remember much else tho.

Yeah I called out Sean as scum but if Sean messaged me night 1 instead of Mac and said what he said I probably would have been pocketed NGL.

From the game state, Dolby Rand Town.

He has the least potential to be wolf basically is what I’m saying.
Based on Gamestate and who’s said and what’s said.

Gtg Eat now cya!

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

I feel that they're not w/w with LC tho since they asked if something helped them

low-to-mild confidence I would say Gav is town

same with falcon

not feeling anything else in my head atm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 pm Guys...Gavial is pinging me again...make him stop...

Particularly by doing this.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

was there a specific post or series of posts you could point at as pinging you

Hello fellow larpers

I'm here for a couple minutes before I pass out, what's happening?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:12 pm By tone and meta i think the following are town

Dolby
Gavial
Falcon

Mixed feelings on Seanzie

Scum

Sig
Dyslexicon

Can you give some details on the tone/meta reads you have on Dolbr, Gav & myself?


Are your scum reads also tone/meta based?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:16 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 pm Guys...Gavial is pinging me again...make him stop...

Particularly by doing this.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

was there a specific post or series of posts you could point at as pinging you

Inside the spoiler but post #1 Gavial takes Falcon's RNG team guess and says "I'm fine with all of them except for LP" which is taking a joke post seriously and literally just being "Fine" with the rest of the names being voted off.

Post #2 just yells out "I can sheep you!" towards Falcon for saying he sus's Sean. Like is he fine with sheeping Falcon because he agrees that Sean is wolfie orrrrrr...?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:36 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:16 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 pm Guys...Gavial is pinging me again...make him stop...

Particularly by doing this.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

was there a specific post or series of posts you could point at as pinging you

Spoiler: show

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:01 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:33 pm 16, 4, 18, 1, 13, 9, 7



That is my RNG POE


So Seanzie, falcon, TSP, Dolby, Nook, LP, & Jack...let's start flipping these goons

I like that but not LP.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:03 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:02 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:10 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:28 pm Also don't see why a claim swap would happen?

If one goes down the other would go down

Claimswaps can happen late game when the remaining mafia members hope to win with both people involved alive.

Granted, I do concede that it is probably not super likely to happen.

What's not super likely? That Maf use claim swaps late game, or that Maf have multiple members alive late game?


Sean is in my sus pile

I can sheep you!

Inside the spoiler but post #1 Gavial takes Falcon's RNG team guess and says "I'm fine with all of them except for LP" which is taking a joke post seriously and literally just being "Fine" with the rest of the names being voted off.

Post #2 just yells out "I can sheep you!" towards Falcon for saying he sus's Sean. Like is he fine with sheeping Falcon because he agrees that Sean is wolfie orrrrrr...?

hmmm was hopeful that we were looking at the same thing but ig not

what're your thoughts on this then @Gavial

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:25 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:12 pm By tone and meta i think the following are town

Dolby
Gavial
Falcon

Mixed feelings on Seanzie

Scum

Sig
Dyslexicon

Can you give some details on the tone/meta reads you have on Dolbr, Gav & myself?


Are your scum reads also tone/meta based?

If Sean is Wolf Me/Guillo/Falcon/Dolby is a good town core.
Maybe even add Martin as well to it.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:30 pm

If Sean is Wolf Me/Guillo/Falcon/Dolby is a good town core.
Maybe even add Martin as well to it.

And if Sean is not wolf?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:40 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:30 pm

If Sean is Wolf Me/Guillo/Falcon/Dolby is a good town core.
Maybe even add Martin as well to it.

And if Sean is not wolf?

Then it all goes to shit

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:44 pm @falcon45ca I think you should bus Gavial.

I'm going to be mindful of not taking my last game w/ Gav into this game



I will say, he does seem a lil nervous around my slot right now



Like, why am I a good towncore if Sean’s a wolf? Gav engaged my RNG POE as tho it were serious, then he'll sheep me on Sean?


While I am somewhat sus of Sean, I don't know why Gav would sheep me, especially at this stage.


I dunno, Gav seems off...a bit nervous even

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:24 pm Hello fellow larpers

I'm here for a couple minutes before I pass out, what's happening?

In a quantum universe, everything is happening

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:53 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:14 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:02 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:39 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:31 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:14 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:52 pm So I briefly considered if it might be good for us to massclaim our colors D1.

Benefits: reduces scums ability to do claimswaps, and also reduces the ability for scum to vague claim (i.e. if they are vaguely hinting at something that sounds a whole lot like your ability, and they're the same color as you, that's clearly sus).

Drawbacks: Could lead to scum being able to guess certain townies roles easier once the game goes on and a few people from own of the colors has flipped.

I didn't actually come to a conclusion on if I think we should or not though, so uhh... thoughts?

No, Im sure with all roles being known there gotta be some sort of anti-claim mechanic so hard pass.

It's an open setup, so there is no hidden anti-claim mechanic.

Either way though, I've come around to thinking it is not a good idea to claim colors.

Why not? Im green, how about you?

Derp clear denied

Fair, i could easily fake it as scum.

I think this interaction contains 1 wolf and 2 town.

Why?


Who are the 2 town, and why?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:14 pm low-to-mild confidence I would say Gav is town

same with falcon

not feeling anything else in my head atm

Pourquoi?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:02 am

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:14 pm low-to-mild confidence I would say Gav is town

same with falcon

not feeling anything else in my head atm

Pourquoi?

largely this

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:57 pm Not sure why LP be recently been called at as wolf randomly.
Last game they were town and I hard defended them.

I kinda feel like the wording and structure of this post comes from a mind that is thinking but not necessarily explicitly describing what it is thinking; its sorta beating around the bush if you will.

therefore I think this is indicative of it probably not being performative and/or unlikely to have been made by a wolf

I would think wolf posts are generally more direct with what it is because they are created by disingenuous intents

I'm well aware tho that there are wolves out there that can easily adopt a more "fluid" style with their posting or train of thought

but I'll take it for now as being in favor of gavial, especially when I feel like I haven't really seen anything that I could say on a similar level "yeah, that couldn't be made by a wolf" to anyone else's posts here so far

Falcon being town is just gut feel

sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:35 pm I"m gonna go ahead throw a vote onto gullitone for the time being. We haven't played alot, but we've played enough they should know i'm an easy D1 mislynch, gave some very weak reasoning, and did just not enough set up to throw on a vote and not move it.

You cant be mislynch if you are scum and ive only played two games with you i think, which i dont remember anything, only that you played there.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:07 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:02 pm I've seen sean as scum but I don't remember how he behaved. Does that help?

If it helps the game I'm referring my meta to is this game:

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2201

Where he did next to nothing.

Seanzie is very versatile. If you think you hot Seanzie figured out, you don’t.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:25 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:12 pm By tone and meta i think the following are town

Dolby
Gavial
Falcon

Mixed feelings on Seanzie

Scum

Sig
Dyslexicon

Can you give some details on the tone/meta reads you have on Dolbr, Gav & myself?


Are your scum reads also tone/meta based?

Dolby slanks really bad as town, he is almost inexistent in every game ge plays as town and when he posts, he submits short posts.
When he is scum, he posts walls! That is almost his scum tell, he just tries to appear townie doing busywork.

Gavial as scum acts like he is being forced to play and tries to hide behind gimmicks to avoid engaging with town. Here he is engaging and feels natural.

Falcon is very aggro as scum, ive hosted a game where you played and you were town and difference is noticeable. It’s just two games but I like Falcon here so far.


And no, dyslexicon nor sig are meta reads, they are just scummy.

Dyslexicon is playing like he is in anti-spew mode and if he randed wolf that is the best thing they can do because dizzy always gets a check on night 1, in fact, i hsvent read all the roles that exists but if there are any investigates in this game, do us all a favor and check Dyslexicon because if there is a player that is capanle of snowing us all, it’s dizzy. Don’t understimate them!

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:40 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:36 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:16 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 pm Guys...Gavial is pinging me again...make him stop...

Particularly by doing this.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

was there a specific post or series of posts you could point at as pinging you

Spoiler: show

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:01 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:33 pm 16, 4, 18, 1, 13, 9, 7



That is my RNG POE


So Seanzie, falcon, TSP, Dolby, Nook, LP, & Jack...let's start flipping these goons

I like that but not LP.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:03 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:02 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:10 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:28 pm Also don't see why a claim swap would happen?

If one goes down the other would go down

Claimswaps can happen late game when the remaining mafia members hope to win with both people involved alive.

Granted, I do concede that it is probably not super likely to happen.

What's not super likely? That Maf use claim swaps late game, or that Maf have multiple members alive late game?


Sean is in my sus pile

I can sheep you!

Inside the spoiler but post #1 Gavial takes Falcon's RNG team guess and says "I'm fine with all of them except for LP" which is taking a joke post seriously and literally just being "Fine" with the rest of the names being voted off.

Post #2 just yells out "I can sheep you!" towards Falcon for saying he sus's Sean. Like is he fine with sheeping Falcon because he agrees that Sean is wolfie orrrrrr...?

hmmm was hopeful that we were looking at the same thing but ig not

what're your thoughts on this then @Gavial

Do share. What were you looking at then?