The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:31 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:32 am This is a question for @Kate and @jack shepherd and @Dennis :

If you were mafia partners with one of your family, would you sacrifice each other, and if so, who would willingly take the bullet first?

I am not one of these people, but I do have an opinion.

I think if Kate were on a team with one of her sons, she would try to help him in thread via the chat room, but if he got called out, she would bus him. I don't see her making cases on either of them, regardless of her alignment. But I could be wrong there. Especially if Kate is civ. She might know best the difference between an awkward nub mistake, and a "Shit, I shouldn't have said that", baddie slip.

I thought the "ha ha" circling between Kate and Dennis on Zero was what I would expect and was NAI for me. I have no idea what Jack or Dennis would do.

Having read back, the thing that sticks out most for me is walking into a thread where someone has two votes; one for a reasonable reason (that I am not sure I see as AI, but I don't know Seanzie; perhaps him saying what he did is a baddie thing), and one because "Imma sheep Scotty".

So I'm dropping a first vote on Golden. That seems a flippant reason to start a train. Not a fan. [VOTE: Golden] aubergine

This is pretty much my pattern on work days, a flurry when I get up (sorry for back to back posts, but it's gonna happen daily) then I may or may not be around depending on how work goes until 6ish eastern.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:22 am Jesus Christ golden is 39, and mata is 69 due to previous conversations

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:43 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:15 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:08 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:03 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:40 am Looking over the role specifics and this is pretty powerful:

You are the Town Cop. Each night, you may alignment check one other player. You may roleclaim and infodump only once during the game. When you infodump, you may reveal the alignment of no more than two other players. Once you infodump, you will become vanilla for the remainder of the game. You must infodump before the mafia is down to their last living player or you will not be allowed to reveal their alignment if you know it.

Because no one else can claim or into dump, this role is functionally an innocent child with extra ability to clear x people.

Which makes it the role mafia will yearn to seek out and find most. If that role can survive into D3, claiming might be most efficient to town health should we miseliminate today. Even if we do find mafia today, it might be most benefit to infodunp D3 anyway. I feel like D4 is pressing the luck.

What does everyone else think the best play is with the cop?

If you had to pick only one, are you asking this more to generate reads or get genuine answers to the question?

Well I’d start with answers and go from there.

I genuinely wouldn’t mind other people’s opinions on the matter tho so I’m not just confbiasing my own ego

I think the most optimal approach probably depends on the player. I think it’s natural for players like you or me to make the call to infodump on day 3. Some other players might feel they could take more of a risk on waiting, and I suspect us talking about it is unlikely to move the needle of the cop if that’s their style.

I mean the cop will do what the cop will do. And like a commercial for Arby’s telling me that they ‘have the meats’, I’m at least aware of it even if I don’t like Arby’s and don’t feel like going there

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:59 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:17 am I refuse to vote for anyone under the age of 30 today unless Seanzie is under the age of 30 because I might sheep scotty.

Remind me again why the ageism?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:45 am [VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:51 pm Although I would point out that I voted Seanzie because he is 33 more than to sheep scotty.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:59 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:57 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:45 am [VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Why?

Because something is rotten in the state of Denmark

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:56 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:59 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:17 am I refuse to vote for anyone under the age of 30 today unless Seanzie is under the age of 30 because I might sheep scotty.

Remind me again why the ageism?

I’m being nice to the newbies. Lucy just gets a bonus pass.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:05 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:15 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:08 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:03 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:40 am Looking over the role specifics and this is pretty powerful:

You are the Town Cop. Each night, you may alignment check one other player. You may roleclaim and infodump only once during the game. When you infodump, you may reveal the alignment of no more than two other players. Once you infodump, you will become vanilla for the remainder of the game. You must infodump before the mafia is down to their last living player or you will not be allowed to reveal their alignment if you know it.

Because no one else can claim or into dump, this role is functionally an innocent child with extra ability to clear x people.

Which makes it the role mafia will yearn to seek out and find most. If that role can survive into D3, claiming might be most efficient to town health should we miseliminate today. Even if we do find mafia today, it might be most benefit to infodunp D3 anyway. I feel like D4 is pressing the luck.

What does everyone else think the best play is with the cop?

If you had to pick only one, are you asking this more to generate reads or get genuine answers to the question?

Well I’d start with answers and go from there.

I genuinely wouldn’t mind other people’s opinions on the matter tho so I’m not just confbiasing my own ego

I think the most optimal approach probably depends on the player. I think it’s natural for players like you or me to make the call to infodump on day 3. Some other players might feel they could take more of a risk on waiting, and I suspect us talking about it is unlikely to move the needle of the cop if that’s their style.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:16 am Or, to put it another way, if the cop is wilgy he’ll probably solve the whole game and leave all the necessary clues.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:17 am I refuse to vote for anyone under the age of 30 today unless Seanzie is under the age of 30 because I might sheep scotty.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 5:09 am I can finally start developing my new meta of phoning it in.

Ima sheep some people this game and not apologise for it.

They're leaving a backdoor open for themselves on sheeping players/votes/reads, what have you...but clearly will engage aspects of the game where they feel comfortable.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:56 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:51 pm Although I would point out that I voted Seanzie because he is 33 more than to sheep scotty.

Is this just an arbitrary D1 shtick or do you just not trust experience?

Because while I would expect an older person to be both a lawyer and have money, I think younger people are perfectly capable if not more likely to wield guns

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:48 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:31 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:32 am This is a question for @Kate and @jack shepherd and @Dennis :

If you were mafia partners with one of your family, would you sacrifice each other, and if so, who would willingly take the bullet first?

I am not one of these people, but I do have an opinion.

I think if Kate were on a team with one of her sons, she would try to help him in thread via the chat room, but if he got called out, she would bus him. I don't see her making cases on either of them, regardless of her alignment. But I could be wrong there. Especially if Kate is civ. She might know best the difference between an awkward nub mistake, and a "Shit, I shouldn't have said that", baddie slip.

I thought the "ha ha" circling between Kate and Dennis on Zero was what I would expect and was NAI for me. I have no idea what Jack or Dennis would do.

Having read back, the thing that sticks out most for me is walking into a thread where someone has two votes; one for a reasonable reason (that I am not sure I see as AI, but I don't know Seanzie; perhaps him saying what he did is a baddie thing), and one because "Imma sheep Scotty".

So I'm dropping a first vote on Golden. That seems a flippant reason to start a train. Not a fan. [VOTE: Golden] aubergine

This is pretty much my pattern on work days, a flurry when I get up (sorry for back to back posts, but it's gonna happen daily) then I may or may not be around depending on how work goes until 6ish eastern.

SVS is town

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:58 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:56 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:59 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:17 am I refuse to vote for anyone under the age of 30 today unless Seanzie is under the age of 30 because I might sheep scotty.

Remind me again why the ageism?

I’m being nice to the newbies. Lucy just gets a bonus pass.

lol fair

I also don’t have a desire to elim someone I’ve never played with on D1. When does this pass expire for you?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:00 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:48 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:31 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:32 am This is a question for @Kate and @jack shepherd and @Dennis :

If you were mafia partners with one of your family, would you sacrifice each other, and if so, who would willingly take the bullet first?

I am not one of these people, but I do have an opinion.

I think if Kate were on a team with one of her sons, she would try to help him in thread via the chat room, but if he got called out, she would bus him. I don't see her making cases on either of them, regardless of her alignment. But I could be wrong there. Especially if Kate is civ. She might know best the difference between an awkward nub mistake, and a "Shit, I shouldn't have said that", baddie slip.

I thought the "ha ha" circling between Kate and Dennis on Zero was what I would expect and was NAI for me. I have no idea what Jack or Dennis would do.

Having read back, the thing that sticks out most for me is walking into a thread where someone has two votes; one for a reasonable reason (that I am not sure I see as AI, but I don't know Seanzie; perhaps him saying what he did is a baddie thing), and one because "Imma sheep Scotty".

So I'm dropping a first vote on Golden. That seems a flippant reason to start a train. Not a fan. [VOTE: Golden] aubergine

This is pretty much my pattern on work days, a flurry when I get up (sorry for back to back posts, but it's gonna happen daily) then I may or may not be around depending on how work goes until 6ish eastern.

SVS is town

because?

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:07 pm time wise I'm a noobie, irl and mafia, however everyone I know says I play both like a vet

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:25 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:07 pm time wise I'm a noobie, irl and mafia, however everyone I know says I play both like a vet

You have 2124 post I draw the noobie line at 2000.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:44 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:25 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:07 pm time wise I'm a noobie, irl and mafia, however everyone I know says I play both like a vet

You have 2124 post I draw the noobie line at 2000.

where do you draw the line at irl maturity

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:55 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:44 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:25 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:07 pm time wise I'm a noobie, irl and mafia, however everyone I know says I play both like a vet

You have 2124 post I draw the noobie line at 2000.

where do you draw the line at irl maturity

I use the gillick competency test.

(I’m a lawyer in child protection and gillick competency is how we assess whether a child is mature enough to make their own decisions so this is technically accurate.)

Or, if you want a more serious answer, I definitely don’t draw that line based on age, but if I did it would have to be somewhere older than me.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:00 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:55 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:44 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:25 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:07 pm time wise I'm a noobie, irl and mafia, however everyone I know says I play both like a vet

You have 2124 post I draw the noobie line at 2000.

where do you draw the line at irl maturity

I use the gillick competency test.

(I’m a lawyer in child protection and gillick competency is how we assess whether a child is mature enough to make their own decisions so this is technically accurate.)

Or, if you want a more serious answer, I definitely don’t draw that line based on age, but if I did it would have to be somewhere older than me.

do you think having studied arguments and rhetoric for your entire adult life has made you better at mafia? I noticed you just had a sick win in game 1 as mafia

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:13 pm @Kate i see you lurking what do you think of svs.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:31 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:32 am This is a question for @Kate and @jack shepherd and @Dennis :

If you were mafia partners with one of your family, would you sacrifice each other, and if so, who would willingly take the bullet first?

I am not one of these people, but I do have an opinion.

I think if Kate were on a team with one of her sons, she would try to help him in thread via the chat room, but if he got called out, she would bus him. I don't see her making cases on either of them, regardless of her alignment. But I could be wrong there. Especially if Kate is civ. She might know best the difference between an awkward nub mistake, and a "Shit, I shouldn't have said that", baddie slip.

I thought the "ha ha" circling between Kate and Dennis on Zero was what I would expect and was NAI for me. I have no idea what Jack or Dennis would do.

Having read back, the thing that sticks out most for me is walking into a thread where someone has two votes; one for a reasonable reason (that I am not sure I see as AI, but I don't know Seanzie; perhaps him saying what he did is a baddie thing), and one because "Imma sheep Scotty".

So I'm dropping a first vote on Golden. That seems a flippant reason to start a train. Not a fan. [VOTE: Golden] aubergine

This is pretty much my pattern on work days, a flurry when I get up (sorry for back to back posts, but it's gonna happen daily) then I may or may not be around depending on how work goes until 6ish eastern.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:29 pm Also, just so you two know, and I don't want to mention the game in the house.. there is no editing posts. If you make a mistake, you have to use another post to explain that.

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:33 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:29 pm Also, just so you two know, and I don't want to mention the game in the house.. there is no editing posts. If you make a mistake, you have to use another post to explain that.

Didn't it say that in the rules? I remember reading that somewhere.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:27 pm Speaking of participating, I'd like to hear some thoughts from @jack shepherd

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:35 pm dennis, how well do you know your mom and brother

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:37 pm kate, why did you make them signup?

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:37 pm kate, why did you make them signup?

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:39 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:37 pm kate, why did you make them signup?

family bonding, seemed fun, wanted to kick their ass, etc?

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:40 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:37 pm kate, why did you make them signup?

I didn't make them. Dennis wanted to play, we had to talk jack into it. Many years ago my other son Andrew used to play and liked writing games. I think they could both be great at this game and it's a lot better than playing arc for 9000 hours.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:35 pm dennis, how well do you know your mom and brother

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:41 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:40 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:37 pm kate, why did you make them signup?

I didn't make them. Dennis wanted to play, we had to talk jack into it. Many years ago my other son Andrew used to play and liked writing games. I think they could both be great at this game and it's a lot better than playing arc for 9000 hours.

I gave up on ark years ago, don't slander my name like this.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:37 pm kate, why did you make them signup?

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:44 pm are you guys a sporty family that goes on hikes and whatnot, or are you not that. when was the last family dinner and what frequency do you have them at, does your mom drink?