Workout Mafia [End]

[Epignosis]

I still find no reason to believe Michelle is good.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Michelle's response to me was that I was "throwing mud at the wall," which I interpret to mean I am just slinging shit to see what fits. Yet I am only voting for Michelle.

Dead Scotty pressed Michelle a good deal and I felt Scotty got lackluster responses.

Good morning!

I wanted to answer but I noticed the post from Jay and I was too tired to do anything at that moment in the day, I was already in bed, sleepy and all.

But this morning is so fresh that inspired me to move a little to warm up and do the push ups after, I kept my knees on the floor though.

Unexpected low activity, I thought I have pages to catch up after so many AFK hours but this is not the case.

I have to sleep soon though, if anyone is here let's talk about who posted.

I am feeling good about Scotty and Abigail.
Please discuss

What particularly are you feeling good about with Abigail?

I don’t have a strong reason to town read here whatsoever.

What about me makes your afternoon delightful?

No strong read but I feel that Abigail town reading me gives her towny points because why would a wolf town read the other player who received a vote in the game?

About you, I think you have a balanced view and even the fact you're questioning my take shows solving intent.

What I don't like is the overall inactivity, but maybe everyone not posting is scared by the push ups?

I wish to dissect this post in particular.

The comment about PA is convoluted and lacks clarity.

Scotty, who asked about this and was one of Michelle's good feelings, is dead.

What exactly is a "balanced view?" Why would you want a "balanced view" in Mafia?

Overall inactivity is easy to criticize because it's... overall.

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine

So what do we hope to gain with voting a no-poster?

(Please note that 10 years ago, I ONLY EVER voted for a no poster on D1 so as to hide any potential alignment indication for future games, but now I’m old and see no value in this)

Any answer/reaction from anyone.

Probably DM town because otherwise at least their partner (assuming 2 mafia team) would question me and I don't think you are mafia.

I don't understand "probably DM town."

It looks like Eod is at 4 am and I am not sure I can wake up.

[VOTE: Dr.W] aubergine

No comment on Dr.Wilgy. Just a quick vote.

Why vote Dr.Wilgy when you accused me of slinging mud?

[Epignosis]

Does anybody object to Michelle being mafia?

I've got this.

Scotty town
Michelle town
Abi town

I sheep

Tell me why I'm wrong.

[Epignosis]

Bumping these up.

Does 9v2 sound appropriate here? That’s what I’m running with. A team of 2.

I don’t have a lot of confidence in Michelle. I also don’t agree or see the same things she does regarding Princess Abigail.


Current reads in alphabetical order, as if they were people at the gym:

***********

DarlingMonroe - got a membership on a whim for New Years Resolution and just never showed up

DrWilgy‪ - comes in once a month on his friend’s guest day pass. Uses a little bit of every machine and gives a slight smile and head nod to everyone that looks in his direction. Needs to come in more to see meaningful results‬

Epignosis‪ - First one in, last one out. A real scrappy individual that utilizes the plyometric section. Secretly working on his PT certification, he isn’t afraid to call you out on bad form and also has discount codes for a dietary weight loss cocktail he brews in his own bathtub. A gymbro through and through‬

falcon45ca‪ - works the front desk. Has a witty response to everyone when they scan in. When he works out after his shift, he makes sure to loudly count his reps, and always caps his leg days with a loud and prolonged ‘LET’S GOOO’. A gym mouse in rat clothing‬

Long Con‪ - the social butterfly. No one’s actually seen him work out, but he swears he does. Genetically gifted. Will often help spot for others while prattling on about his recent forays in the dating scene, unprompted. No one actually knows his name, but he’s always there. Could secretly despise everyone’s workout routines and lack of min/maxing on weight and it wouldn’t surprise me.‬

Michelle‪ - keeps to herself and does light workouts here and there. Never uses max weight or effort. Sometimes gives other gym rats words of encouragement in passing, ‬but you can tell she doesn’t feel confident in what she’s doing. Feels like she could drop her membership any day now

Princess Abigail‪ - Comes to the gym about twice a week, mostly to use the shower and sauna. When she works out, it’s a 10-minute walk on the treadmill, occasionally talking on her phone. Is generally gregarious, but I’m beginning to wonder if she even has a membership here‬

Ruri- ‪was getting a sandwich next door to the gym and decided to pop in to get a tour before committing to joining. Was overwhelmed with the joining fee because she went in the middle of the month without a worthwhile promotion, and decided to workout at home instead. Needs to workout more‬

Sloonei‪ - doesn’t use the machines and almost exclusively uses the squat rack. Every time someone tries to use it when the coast is clear, Sloonei pops in seemingly out of nowhere and loudly announces ‘Hey, I’ve still got 2 sets’. Could be a poser, but probably knows what he’s doing.‬

sprityo - comes in about once a week, does a couple sets on the leg press machine and sits on his phone for 45 minutes. Needs to come in more.

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine

So what do we hope to gain with voting a no-poster?

(Please note that 10 years ago, I ONLY EVER voted for a no poster on D1 so as to hide any potential alignment indication for future games, but now I’m old and see no value in this)

Any answer/reaction from anyone.

Probably DM town because otherwise at least their partner (assuming 2 mafia team) would question me and I don't think you are mafia.

I admit I like that you are admitting at this point DM is town while still voting there. That’s a good look methinks.

I also like sprityo’s attempt here to stoke discussion.


If I had to make more of a lean list of the posters that have a semblance of relevant discussion, I’d have:

Townread:
Epi
Sprityo

Townlean:
Michelle
Falcon

Scumlean:
Sloonei
Long con
Abigail


Nothing:
Ruri
Wilgy
DM

[Epignosis]

Ever been at the gym alone? Creepy.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Does anybody object to Michelle being mafia?

I've got this.

Scotty town
Michelle town
Abi town

I sheep

Tell me why I'm wrong.

Cause I'm 1 for 1 wheeee

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Who did you target Night 1?

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Who did you target Night 1?

I've not targeted anyone

[Long Con]

Even though sprityo has only four posts, I still think he feels Towny.

[sprityo]

Even though sprityo has only four posts, I still think he feels Towny.

I appreciate the kind words LC but I honestly could not tell you what I’ve done to appear town-like lol

I’ve been admittedly putting this game on the backburner a little so I apologize for the lack of posts (also I saw someone say that there’s a daily post limit??? I must’ve missed that)

[sprityo]

Oh, yeah it’s right there in big letters. Sorry JJJ, I’ll be better

[sprityo]

Tomorrow I want to go over the posts Epi bumped and see Scotty’s reasonings for his town and scum leans. I feel that’s as good of place as any to start?

[Michelle]

Hello everyone!

Such a big case for me, Epi, totally wrong but I appreciate the effort.

Michelle's response to me was that I was "throwing mud at the wall," which I interpret to mean I am just slinging shit to see what fits. Yet I am only voting for Michelle.

And this is a problem, shows a narrow focus. It would be so nice to see you looking at everyone and give a read, instead you were happy to let your vote on me.

Dead Scotty pressed Michelle a good deal and I felt Scotty got lackluster responses.

If my responses were so lackluster like you say, why was Scotty leaning me town?
I think you miss the logical conclusion here, do you see what I see?

I wish to dissect this post in particular.

The comment about PA is convoluted and lacks clarity.

Scotty, who asked about this and was one of Michelle's good feelings, is dead.

What exactly is a "balanced view?" Why would you want a "balanced view" in Mafia?

Overall inactivity is easy to criticize because it's... overall.

The comment about Abigail cannot be simpler and clearer. I couldn't see how a wolf wouldn't push their counter wagon. If there's something unclear it comes from my Esl nature, but my intention was explained and you could ask for details.

Scotty was the most active player. I don't see what's the idea there. You ignore completely were Scotty's vote landed. Can I know why?

Balanced view means no jumping to conclusions which showed me towny mindset and that's the most useful to have in Mafia.

Yeah. So what?

I don't understand "probably DM town."

My idea was that an inactive player with a vote on them so much time will either receive one more vote to be bussed or someone will defend them.
Nothing from these happened. Also, no one pushed for any other wagon.
I think the conclusion is a decent one to understand if you get out of the tunnel.

No comment on Dr.Wilgy. Just a quick vote.

Why vote Dr.Wilgy when you accused me of slinging mud?

I fell asleep, and I was in a weekend short vacation so I was both busy and very tired irl.
The problem there wasn't my vote, but the fact Wilgy was also AFK and didn't claim anything before Eod and the overall thread state not being active.
It's easy to blame one player for a mischop. Where were you again?

I have to admit, the fact Scotty town read you made me think that that could be the right read, but your 'case' above makes me wonder if that's correct or we should scrutinize your intentions here

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Explain

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Who did you target Night 1?

What's with this question?
Why aren't you curious about his vote?

[Michelle]

I apologize for my lack of participation during the latter bit of Chest Day. I wasn't flaking, but was rather nursing a shoulder injury (that I have no earthly idea how I got).

I should be capable of slinging a bowling ball tomorrow, and that's all I care about.

I hate that Scotty was murdered, but I think that was an obvious kill choice.

Did you injure your both shoulders? If not, I would gladly accept half pushups in one hand instead inactivity from you...

[Michelle]

I am unsure about Epi but Falcon's vote is so bad so he deserves my vote

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

[Michelle]

Even though sprityo has only four posts, I still think he feels Towny.

What about everyone else?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Spoiler: show

@DarlingMonroe
@Epignosis
@falcon45ca
@Long Con
@Michelle
@☆Princess Abigail☆
@Ruri
@Scotty
@Sloonei
@sprityo

@Thunal33 is replacing @DarlingMonroe. Please don't discuss replacement actions other than to welcome the newcomer to the game.

[Thunal33]

Hi everyone! I’m at work now but the reads I had pre-sub in were Scotty town (rip) and Abi town, possibly Sprityo town as well.

[Michelle]

Welcome Thunal, it's a joy to see you playing!

I will be here after gym (Pilates class, not cardio, but I guess it counts as exercise )

[Michelle]

It's a little weird to not have posts so much time...

I guess I'll go to sleep and come back when I wake up

[Thunal33]

Nobody at all? I was literally going to enter with a post talking about how town has decent chances but now I'm not sure I believe that.

[Thunal33]

Anyway, if everyone gets in their night action the setup is probably townsided since it was likely balanced around people not always working out every night. So townies, get up and do those workouts!

[Thunal33]

Welcome Thunal, it's a joy to see you playing!

I will be here after gym (Pilates class, not cardio, but I guess it counts as exercise )

hi Michelle, great to see you!

[Thunal33]

To explain my Abi town read: she's unapologetically following her own solving process. The response to why her/Michelle are t/t I think is towny for her because she isn't caring about what the thread thinks and there were a few moments like that.

Also I don't think I want to vote Michelle today. I haven't gone over everything as much as I'd like to, but a good way to lose in a low activity game is to vote out the active players. If we're wrong on Michelle, we're doing wolves NK work for them. I also gut townread Michelle's reaction to seeing me playing since I think if she were wolf there would be a little bit of fear as well lol.

[Thunal33]

Why vote Dr.Wilgy when you accused me of slinging mud?

I fell asleep, and I was in a weekend short vacation so I was both busy and very tired irl.
The problem there wasn't my vote, but the fact Wilgy was also AFK and didn't claim anything before Eod and the overall thread state not being active.
It's easy to blame one player for a mischop. Where were you again?

I have to admit, the fact Scotty town read you made me think that that could be the right read, but your 'case' above makes me wonder if that's correct or we should scrutinize your intentions here
[/quote]
Okay, but why did you actually vote Wilgy and stick it there? There were other afk slots, did something stick out to you about him over me/DM or Ruri?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Spoiler: show

@Epignosis
@falcon45ca
@Long Con
@Michelle
@☆Princess Abigail☆
@Ruri
@Scotty
@Sloonei
@sprityo
@Thunal33

Before your next post, do 10 jumping jacks. If you're in a place where that won't be practical, go ahead and post and do them when you get home.

[Long Con]

Michelle is just OMGUSsing falcon instead of hunting, not a great look. But I am sympathetic to the fact that this is a low-posting game right now, so hunting isn't easy.

[Thunal33]

I still find no reason to believe Michelle is good.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Michelle's response to me was that I was "throwing mud at the wall," which I interpret to mean I am just slinging shit to see what fits. Yet I am only voting for Michelle.

Dead Scotty pressed Michelle a good deal and I felt Scotty got lackluster responses.

Good morning!

I wanted to answer but I noticed the post from Jay and I was too tired to do anything at that moment in the day, I was already in bed, sleepy and all.

But this morning is so fresh that inspired me to move a little to warm up and do the push ups after, I kept my knees on the floor though.

Unexpected low activity, I thought I have pages to catch up after so many AFK hours but this is not the case.

I have to sleep soon though, if anyone is here let's talk about who posted.

I am feeling good about Scotty and Abigail.
Please discuss

What particularly are you feeling good about with Abigail?

I don’t have a strong reason to town read here whatsoever.

What about me makes your afternoon delightful?

No strong read but I feel that Abigail town reading me gives her towny points because why would a wolf town read the other player who received a vote in the game?

About you, I think you have a balanced view and even the fact you're questioning my take shows solving intent.

What I don't like is the overall inactivity, but maybe everyone not posting is scared by the push ups?

I wish to dissect this post in particular.

The comment about PA is convoluted and lacks clarity.

Scotty, who asked about this and was one of Michelle's good feelings, is dead.

What exactly is a "balanced view?" Why would you want a "balanced view" in Mafia?

Overall inactivity is easy to criticize because it's... overall.

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine

So what do we hope to gain with voting a no-poster?

(Please note that 10 years ago, I ONLY EVER voted for a no poster on D1 so as to hide any potential alignment indication for future games, but now I’m old and see no value in this)

Any answer/reaction from anyone.

Probably DM town because otherwise at least their partner (assuming 2 mafia team) would question me and I don't think you are mafia.

I don't understand "probably DM town."

It looks like Eod is at 4 am and I am not sure I can wake up.

[VOTE: Dr.W] aubergine

No comment on Dr.Wilgy. Just a quick vote.

Why vote Dr.Wilgy when you accused me of slinging mud?

I lean Epi town on this case anyway, even though I don't think it has super strong points against Michelle. It feels more prodding and less of a gotcha than what I remember seeing from him as wolf. I can feel that there's a process and an intent to read Michelle underneath it.

[Thunal33]

Michelle is just OMGUSsing falcon instead of hunting, not a great look. But I am sympathetic to the fact that this is a low-posting game right now, so hunting isn't easy.

That was a hesitation I had on her too, that she leaned into OMGUS. Also if she's town then the Wilgy wagon is probably pure (because I townread Abi), which isn't a bad assumption but it's one I hesitate to make.

I'll probably try to get a better feel on the other players and come back to her.

[Sloonei]

Does anybody object to Michelle being mafia?

I've got this.

Scotty town
Michelle town
Abi town

I sheep

Tell me why I'm wrong.

Cause I'm 1 for 1 wheeee

How do you feel about sprityo and Thunal?

[Sloonei]

I like that Epi’s case on Michelle exists. I don’t think Mafia Epi pushes this hard for anyone in a dead game. That does not necessarily mean I agree with it. I have no strong read on Michelle one way or the other.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

His posts are lacking the usual aggressiveness that I struggle to read every game.

[Thunal33]

D1 poll in a format that I can process (votes in order):
DrWilgy (2) - Michelle, Princess Abigail
Michelle (1) - Epignosis
Sloonei (2) - Scotty, Falcon
Sprityo (1) - Sloonei
Not voting (5) - DarlingMonroe, Ruri, DrWilgy, Long Con, sprityo

I doubt the Wilgy and Sloonei wagons are both pure. I could maybe see the Wilgy one being pure if Sloonei is town, but when 6/11 people voted it's easy for mafia to choose who dies and I'd be surprised if they didn't try to influence the wagons.

[Thunal33]

Falcon

More of a PoE vote and wagonomics vote than a real scumread, but if Michelle is town this is where I'd go and rn I'm going to live in that world even though I'm not totally comfortable with it.

[Thunal33]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

My brain is stuck in making text green mode I see.

[Ruri]

Hi. I'm gonna hopefully be more active here. (Bookmarked)

[Ruri]

Anyway, if everyone gets in their night action the setup is probably townsided since it was likely balanced around people not always working out every night. So townies, get up and do those workouts!

I am already busy doing workouts just to post. Jelly arms.

[Epignosis]

Where were you again?

Crippled.

[Epignosis]

I apologize for my lack of participation during the latter bit of Chest Day. I wasn't flaking, but was rather nursing a shoulder injury (that I have no earthly idea how I got).

I should be capable of slinging a bowling ball tomorrow, and that's all I care about.

I hate that Scotty was murdered, but I think that was an obvious kill choice.

Did you injure your both shoulders? If not, I would gladly accept half pushups in one hand instead inactivity from you...

One handed pushups?

At this age?

[Epignosis]

This game is just a review of how my body is deteriorating. Thank you for that JJJ.

[Epignosis]

I still find no reason to believe Michelle is good.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Michelle's response to me was that I was "throwing mud at the wall," which I interpret to mean I am just slinging shit to see what fits. Yet I am only voting for Michelle.

Dead Scotty pressed Michelle a good deal and I felt Scotty got lackluster responses.

Good morning!

I wanted to answer but I noticed the post from Jay and I was too tired to do anything at that moment in the day, I was already in bed, sleepy and all.

But this morning is so fresh that inspired me to move a little to warm up and do the push ups after, I kept my knees on the floor though.

Unexpected low activity, I thought I have pages to catch up after so many AFK hours but this is not the case.

I have to sleep soon though, if anyone is here let's talk about who posted.

I am feeling good about Scotty and Abigail.
Please discuss

What particularly are you feeling good about with Abigail?

I don’t have a strong reason to town read here whatsoever.

What about me makes your afternoon delightful?

No strong read but I feel that Abigail town reading me gives her towny points because why would a wolf town read the other player who received a vote in the game?

About you, I think you have a balanced view and even the fact you're questioning my take shows solving intent.

What I don't like is the overall inactivity, but maybe everyone not posting is scared by the push ups?

I wish to dissect this post in particular.

The comment about PA is convoluted and lacks clarity.

Scotty, who asked about this and was one of Michelle's good feelings, is dead.

What exactly is a "balanced view?" Why would you want a "balanced view" in Mafia?

Overall inactivity is easy to criticize because it's... overall.

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine

So what do we hope to gain with voting a no-poster?

(Please note that 10 years ago, I ONLY EVER voted for a no poster on D1 so as to hide any potential alignment indication for future games, but now I’m old and see no value in this)

Any answer/reaction from anyone.

Probably DM town because otherwise at least their partner (assuming 2 mafia team) would question me and I don't think you are mafia.

I don't understand "probably DM town."

It looks like Eod is at 4 am and I am not sure I can wake up.

[VOTE: Dr.W] aubergine

No comment on Dr.Wilgy. Just a quick vote.

Why vote Dr.Wilgy when you accused me of slinging mud?

I lean Epi town on this case anyway, even though I don't think it has super strong points against Michelle. It feels more prodding and less of a gotcha than what I remember seeing from him as wolf. I can feel that there's a process and an intent to read Michelle underneath it.

Why can't that be just how I actually think and whom I actually suspect?

[Epignosis]

Falcon isn't lying that he targeted no one Night 1. The only way I'm wrong is if falcon is a killer.

Take that how you will.

[Epignosis]

(Falcon could be a goon or a killer or a non-targeting person)

[Epignosis]

If this is 12-2, and falcon is mafia, this means mafia consists of a member who abstained (i.e., no exercise performed) or has no ability beyond the kill.

This is a JOB, so everyone could have a power. I do. Scotty did.

[Long Con]

Seems like either a large assumption or a mass infodump is what that point hinges on.

[Epignosis]

Seems like either a large assumption or a mass infodump is what that point hinges on.

It's information. What are you going to do with it?

[Long Con]

Seems like either a large assumption or a mass infodump is what that point hinges on.

It's information. What are you going to do with it?

Look. Listen. Appraise.

[Epignosis]

Seems like either a large assumption or a mass infodump is what that point hinges on.

It's information. What are you going to do with it?

Look. Listen. Appraise.

Everything I do when I walk into a gym.

[Michelle]

Good morning!

If that is your read @Epignosis you are wrong and I want your other reads.

I am sorry to see you're not feeling well. Just keep moving and you will feel better.