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Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:37 pm**

Long Con wrote:
reywaS wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Humorous antics are an often effective way to deflect suspicion in the early days of mafia games.
Can I assume since you responded with this 7 minutes after I voted for metalmarsh that this is directed at me? If it was directed at me, I must ask what makes it a humorous tactic? Why is it a humorous tactic as opposed to any legitimate attempt at playing the game?
I didn't read DH as specifically targeting you with that statement. You seem to me to be jumping to the defensive pretty quickly... especially since I didn't find your vote for MM particularly humourous or... antical?

Anyways, that made you my best choice for a Day One vote. *votes reywaS*

Actually, your reaction seems more fishy than his. I find that baddies like to vote early on, so they don't seem like bandwagoning. They find a small thing they can latch on to, and use it as a reason to vote. Granted, there are no really good reasons to vote on the first day, but I don't think I like the way you just jumped on him like that.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:43 pm**

I think all the early votes today are weird. On Day One, more than any other day, we need as much time as possible to pick up on subtle pings.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:50 pm**

thellama73 wrote:
Roxy wrote:I will be voting for the first person that votes for a low poster/non voter.
Even if it's me?

Especially if it you! Epi said my vote would be worth 2 if I just voted for you for usual reasons

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:52 pm**

I think the people voting for the people who voted for no reason have less reason to their vote than the people they are voting for.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:54 pm**

Turnip Head wrote:I think the people voting for the people who voted for no reason have less reason to their vote than the people they are voting for.

I don't think this is true. Why do you say that?

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:01 pm**

reywaS wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Humorous antics are an often effective way to deflect suspicion in the early days of mafia games.
Can I assume since you responded with this 7 minutes after I voted for metalmarsh that this is directed at me? If it was directed at me, I must ask what makes it a humorous tactic? Why is it a humorous tactic as opposed to any legitimate attempt at playing the game?

It was directed at both yourself and Metalmarsh. Both of you pulled early votes, with identical reasoning (even if your reasoning had slightly more merit than Metalmarsh, since I assume you voted for him not for "no reason" but rather because of his vote.)

He voted quite early and gave a terrible reason for doing so. You voted quite early and parroted his reason, I'm guessing as a joke. I found that situation funny.

I wouldn't go so far as to say either vote was a legitimate attempt at playing the game, though. If that were either of your intentions, you probably would have waited a bit to throw down a vote.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:04 pm**

Lizzy wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Humorous antics are an often effective way to deflect suspicion in the early days of mafia games.
Wut? I know | missed a lot of games, butt this would often get Llama, myself, Vmops, Matt lynched in the early stages of the game k.

I speak from personal experience when I say this:

Trust me, "humorous antics" has nothing to do with why that grouping of players is lynched frequently. At least not in games I've been a part of.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:14 pm**

thellama73 wrote:I think all the early votes today are weird. On Day One, more than any other day, we need as much time as possible to pick up on subtle pings.

That is assuming I want to lynch SVS.

Mafia tip #17: votes are not only useful for lynching players.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:15 pm**

Black Rock wrote:
reywaS wrote:and who else could he have possibly been talking about, LC? It's not like there were a lot of other posts that he could have possibly been talking about.
There was two votes in at that time for the same reasons.

I just caught up, page 2 took me to some weird places...

Right...but that doesn't exclude me from being the target of his post.

thellama73 wrote:I think all the early votes today are weird. On Day One, more than any other day, we need as much time as possible to pick up on subtle pings.

Even when votes can be changed?

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:18 pm**

Black Rock wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I think the people voting for the people who voted for no reason have less reason to their vote than the people they are voting for.
I don't think this is true. Why do you say that?

Logically speaking, you ate correct. I had zero reason for my vote, meaning that Sawyer's vote has a value of say -1, and LC is somewhere between that and negative infinity.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:20 pm**

Ebwop: are

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:22 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:
reywaS wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Humorous antics are an often effective way to deflect suspicion in the early days of mafia games.
Can I assume since you responded with this 7 minutes after I voted for metalmarsh that this is directed at me? If it was directed at me, I must ask what makes it a humorous tactic? Why is it a humorous tactic as opposed to any legitimate attempt at playing the game?
It was directed at both yourself and Metalmarsh.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:32 pm**

Are votes changeable in this game? I hate that...

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:44 pm**

Spacedaisy wrote:Are votes changeable in this game? I hate that...

They are.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:45 pm**

Spacedaisy wrote:Are votes changeable in this game? I hate that...

I also hate it. It takes away the seriousness that comes with casting a vote. Makes things much harder on the civvies, I think.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:54 pm**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I think the people voting for the people who voted for no reason have less reason to their vote than the people they are voting for.
I don't think this is true. Why do you say that?
Logically speaking, you ate correct. I had zero reason for my vote, meaning that Sawyer's vote has a value of say -1, and LC is somewhere between that and negative infinity.

Every time someone uses maths to make it "seem" like what they are saying is fact it makes me want to vote for them. idk why.
But this maths seems like you are stretching a bit.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:55 pm**

I love changeable votes as a player but as a Host they are the bane of my existence

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:00 pm**

thellama73 wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:Are votes changeable in this game? I hate that...
I also hate it. It takes away the seriousness that comes with casting a vote. Makes things much harder on the civvies, I think.

I agree with this. Also, after Who, I felt it was a hosting PITA. Votes changing at the last second made things hard to preplan. I do not envy Epi.

linki - lol Rox - The Maths hurt my brainz. trustry.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:02 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:Not bad, but certainly not useful. Non-participating players are the appendix of mafia games. Eventually that shit will burst and could do a lot of damage.

So guess what happened to me today? I was sent to the hospital with suspected appendicitis... it's not, but the nurses were awfully keen on shipping me out to surgery.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:12 pm**

zeek wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Not bad, but certainly not useful. Non-participating players are the appendix of mafia games. Eventually that shit will burst and could do a lot of damage.
So guess what happened to me today? I was sent to the hospital with suspected appendicitis... it's not, but the nurses were awfully keen on shipping me out to surgery.

Well at least it worked out in the end. Glad you're ok.

On an unrelated note:

Non-participating players are the suitcases full of money of mafia.....

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:18 pm**

reywaS wrote:I'll just be direct. I think you fabricated a reason to vote for me. The fabricated reason of being defensive. The fabricated evidence being that DH had a whole slew of other posts he could have been talking about when in fact the conversation in the thread at the time was all pretty much straightforward mafia tactics talk. I didn't see anything that I would consider any type of day 1 tomfoolery. Maybe mafia has changed during my recent absence.

DH's post was a continuation of the "straightforward mafia tactics" talk that you speak of, the way I read it. If you had never responded the way you did, I don't think anyone would have said "Weird that rey didn't respond to DH's allegations". But you got up in arms immediately about it, and I thought that was unnecessary.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:20 pm**

I don't understand that metaphor, DH.

Linki: Seriously? I got "up in arms"? So, in addition to fabricating a reason to vote for me, you are now going to use hyperbole to try to further justify your vote?

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:22 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:
zeek wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Not bad, but certainly not useful. Non-participating players are the appendix of mafia games. Eventually that shit will burst and could do a lot of damage.
So guess what happened to me today? I was sent to the hospital with suspected appendicitis... it's not, but the nurses were awfully keen on shipping me out to surgery.
Well at least it worked out in the end. Glad you're ok.

On an unrelated note:

Non-participating players are the suitcases full of money of mafia.....

I, too am glad zeek is ok but---
I totes diagree with your sentiment about non participatory players.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:23 pm**

If I got up in arms about it, LC, I would be badgering DH about the comment instead of just making the 1 post. If my up in arms-ness was just in a single post, I would think that single post would be a good deal longer than what it was. Up in arms, to me, indicates making a federal case out of it. Not almost immediately moving off of it.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:29 pm**

reywaS wrote:If I got up in arms about it, LC, I would be badgering DH about the comment instead of just making the 1 post. If my up in arms-ness was just in a single post, I would think that single post would be a good deal longer than what it was. Up in arms, to me, indicates making a federal case out of it. Not almost immediately moving off of it.

S~V~S wrote: Since everyone knows I am the person Most Likely to Start a Federal Case out of taking a vote?

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:30 pm**

reywaS wrote:I don't understand that metaphor, DH.

Linki: Seriously? I got "up in arms"? So, in addition to fabricating a reason to vote for me, you are now going to use hyperbole to try to further justify your vote?

I just read your post again. Maybe something is lost/gained in translation because it's pure text, but I think the situation called for, at most, a "Was that at me, DH?"

You put a string of three increasingly defensive questions in one paragraph.

reywaS wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Humorous antics are an often effective way to deflect suspicion in the early days of mafia games.
Can I assume since you responded with this 7 minutes after I voted for metalmarsh that this is directed at me? If it was directed at me, I must ask what makes it a humorous tactic? Why is it a humorous tactic as opposed to any legitimate attempt at playing the game?

Don't you think it reads pretty defensively?

Linkitis: That's fine, rey. I am not planning on getting up in arms about this, it's a Day One vote, not a lynch train. Also, watch those shrugs. I got accused last game of too many shrugs, and that was a non-committal baddie tactic.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:39 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:
reywaS wrote:If I got up in arms about it, LC, I would be badgering DH about the comment instead of just making the 1 post. If my up in arms-ness was just in a single post, I would think that single post would be a good deal longer than what it was. Up in arms, to me, indicates making a federal case out of it. Not almost immediately moving off of it.

S~V~S wrote: Since everyone knows I am the person Most Likely to Start a Federal Case out of taking a vote?

Why the confusion? I use a common phrase in the thread at 5 AM, and someone else uses the same phrase Luke 9 hours later so the implication is we are teammates?

Can I clear something up for you?

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:39 pm**

Is that a common phrase?

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:42 pm**

Like not Luke sorry autocorrect.

Linki, my mom said it a lot, so I thought so.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:42 pm**

S~V~S wrote:Like not Luke sorry autocorrect.

Linki, my mom said it a lot, so I thought so.

Your mom plays mafia?

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:45 pm**

Its an odd mafia phrase that I'm not sure I've seen before. Twice in one game seems funky to me.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:46 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Like not Luke sorry autocorrect.

Linki, my mom said it a lot, so I thought so.
Your mom plays mafia?

No, she did speak American English, though.

Linki, it isn't a Mafia phrase. Its just a phrase.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:48 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:Its an odd mafia phrase that I'm not sure I've seen before. Twice in one game seems funky to me.

The implication is they may have used the phrase in btsc?

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:50 pm**

I think that is his point, yeah. I don't have BTSC with Rey or with anyone else

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:50 pm**

"make a federal case" out of something is a common idiom in American English. I do not think two people using it is suspicious.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:53 pm**

Snow Dog wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Its an odd mafia phrase that I'm not sure I've seen before. Twice in one game seems funky to me.
The implication is they may have used the phrase in btsc?

IDK if DH meant to imply it per say, but I think he was hoping someone would.

And since I'm gonna say what I mean, I'll just come out and say it. I think DH didn't want to be accused of implying anything so he laid the "this is just too funky" breadcrumb hoping someone would pick it up and run.

FWIW, I don't think "making a federal case out of something" is that uncommon of a phrase. Heck MY parents said it a lot. (Usually when we were whining about something being unfair.)

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:53 pm**

Snow Dog wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Its an odd mafia phrase that I'm not sure I've seen before. Twice in one game seems funky to me.
The implication is they may have used the phrase in btsc?

I've never heard that, in or out of mafia, so two uses of the phrase pinged me a bit. My first instinct was possibly teammates, yeah. Admittedly though, seems I'm out of the loop on the lingo front so w/e.

Nothing I was gonna put a vote behind anyway

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:54 pm**

or you know. That up there.

Still never hurts to keep an eye on the crafty DH.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:55 pm**

bea wrote:or you know. That up there.

Still never hurts to keep an eye on the crafty DH.

As long as you don't go making a federal case.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:55 pm**

thellama73 wrote:"make a federal case" out of something is a common idiom in American English. I do not think two people using it is suspicious.

I'm not familiar with it. It's a term I've not seen in a mafia game I've played yet and now it appears written by two people.

But I neither believe or disbeleive the notion. I merely observe

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:00 pm**

Now I want to vote llama for using the word idiom :/

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:02 pm**

DH - fair enough - just the state supreme court then?

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:02 pm**

Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:"make a federal case" out of something is a common idiom in American English. I do not think two people using it is suspicious.
I'm not familiar with it. It's a term I've not seen in a mafia game I've played yet and now it appears written by two people.

But I neither believe or disbeleive the notion. I merely observe

Do you have Federal Courts in Wales? A Federal Case would be a bigger deal than a local case. Not sure why, maybe the feds have stiffer penalties? Its a common phrase where I grew up.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:36 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:
bea wrote:or you know. That up there.

Still never hurts to keep an eye on the crafty DH.
As long as you don't go making a federal case.

Three times in a game? Now I'm really suspicious...

But yeah, I've heard it before as well. A bit archaic, but I've heard it.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:37 pm**

Well I've succeeded in making everyone feel old.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:57 pm**

Roxy wrote:Now I want to vote llama for using the word idiom :/

You have a whole list of reasons you want to vote for me, don't you?

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:04 pm**

S~V~S wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:"make a federal case" out of something is a common idiom in American English. I do not think two people using it is suspicious.
I'm not familiar with it. It's a term I've not seen in a mafia game I've played yet and now it appears written by two people.

But I neither believe or disbeleive the notion. I merely observe
Do you have Federal Courts in Wales? A Federal Case would be a bigger deal than a local case. Not sure why, maybe the feds have stiffer penalties? Its a common phrase where I grew up.

No. But I watch a lot of American TV. Whatever, never seen it in a mafia game before.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:13 pm**

DH - you did not make me "feel" old I am old

Llama

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:18 pm**

Roxy wrote:DH - you did not make me "feel" old I am old

Llama

Girl, you coulda fooled me.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:33 pm**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I tend to ignore Llamas humor though ( ) and pay attention to his suspicions.
So we should pay attention. If you are NK'd it will probably be llama's doing?

Biggest ping so far. What are exactly are you trying to say here MM

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