The Syndicate

I fall asleep waiting to vote and get lynched anyway. Super.

Golden wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

Golden wrote:Have to go. Voting llama. I understand the points about lacey, but if she isn't here tomorrow I will vote for her tomorrow.

You're not making a lot of sense to me lately. Why are you voting Llama? Why are you already setting up a Lacey vote for tomorrow?

Because of those with votes llama and lacey were the only two I considered good votes, llama's vote

Looks like something is missing here. Llama's vote what? Why did you consider Llama and Lacey to be good votes?

Golden wrote:As for your second question, yeah I really have no good reason for that. I just get frustrated with and don't have much sympathy for absenteeism. But I don't know why I said it, except that in the moment I was frustrated, because I'd much sooner vote you tomorrow. Anyone I have a legitimate actual suspicion of, in fact.

Me and Epi the top lynch candidates on Day 1? Nothing changes.

I would very much like to know why greybonez felt the need to wait until 5 minutes before the deadline- after not posting since Day 0- to put Epi ahead in a 3-2 vote over llama. That seems to me like a newbie mafia move to save a friendly neighborhood Monty Navarro.

If I had to pick the 3rd teammate of llama and greybonez, I'd probably pick MM. Just on a hunch.

But I still do want to hear the thought process from greybonez. This may not implicate llama at all, since there were five of us with 1 vote at the time.

Scotty wrote:If I had to pick the 3rd teammate of llama and greybonez, I'd probably pick MM. Just on a hunch.

But I still do want to hear the thought process from greybonez. This may not implicate llama at all, since there were five of us with 1 vote at the time.

Greybonez isn't on my team. He's just a n00b. I interpret his vote as gratitude for me introducing him to the wonderful game of mafia.

Poor Epi. Should I have woken you up for the vote?

thellama73 wrote:

Scotty wrote:If I had to pick the 3rd teammate of llama and greybonez, I'd probably pick MM. Just on a hunch.

But I still do want to hear the thought process from greybonez. This may not implicate llama at all, since there were five of us with 1 vote at the time.

Greybonez isn't on my team. He's just a n00b. I interpret his vote as gratitude for me introducing him to the wonderful game of mafia.

good one

Scotty wrote:If I had to pick the 3rd teammate of llama and greybonez, I'd probably pick MM. Just on a hunch.

But I still do want to hear the thought process from greybonez. This may not implicate llama at all, since there were five of us with 1 vote at the time.

I take responsibility for my vote. I felt my ego take a small hit when Epignosis made his retort yesterday.

I'm assuming thellama73 finally found a partner in crime? :P

Scotty wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Scotty wrote:

You're one to snigger

First time playing. Did not see where the vote was standing before I voted. Was going to vote for Birdwithteeth because I don't trust that, but I'm also a Sunny fan Epignosis because I also don't trust words or names that end in "sis." I do feel bad that my first vote ended in death.

Ewww smells like a llama 2 was loosed up in here

I do not understand the suspicion on Sorsha bc she thought teeth and epi were posting about spunk (really though did we have to got there, boys?). Why is she being suspected bc those 2 were acting like two teen boys that have never touched a boob?

While I disagree that epi should have been lynched - I feel out of the two of them it should have been Teeth - I can understand it.

But Golden is most suspicious to me bc of the way he posted along with the tone of his posts.

I will elaborate when dawn arrives.

Turnip Head wrote:

Golden wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

Golden wrote:Have to go. Voting llama. I understand the points about lacey, but if she isn't here tomorrow I will vote for her tomorrow.

You're not making a lot of sense to me lately. Why are you voting Llama? Why are you already setting up a Lacey vote for tomorrow?

Because of those with votes llama and lacey were the only two I considered good votes, llama's vote

Looks like something is missing here. Llama's vote what? Why did you consider Llama and Lacey to be good votes?

Golden wrote:As for your second question, yeah I really have no good reason for that. I just get frustrated with and don't have much sympathy for absenteeism. But I don't know why I said it, except that in the moment I was frustrated, because I'd much sooner vote you tomorrow. Anyone I have a legitimate actual suspicion of, in fact.

Llama's vote pinged me.

I went through why I didn't vote others. I didn't want to spread the vote further, because it looked like only me and epi were left... I'm glad lots of others turned up in the last 20 minutes, but that was unexpected for me. I didn't want to vote active people who I had no suspicion on, especially when they are types who take suspicion early a lot.

Now, TH, you've stopped short of actually saying you suspect me, you've done all these questions which read to me like a deliberate attempt to get me to react so you can peg stuff on me, and that is exactly the kind of thing I was seeing from before that point too. Everything you've done, it feels like you've done just to obtain reactions. And even though I told you I suspected you because it felt like you were posting a lot without giving much of your own views, you have not begun to do so... you've simply tried to entrap me.

So, why don't you say who you are actually suspicious of.

I'm not trying to "entrap" you, I'm trying to understand you. And a lot of my gameplay is to gauge reactions, especially early on, I think that's par for the course for me. I'm asking questions about your gameplay because I think your gameplay is questionable.

I suspect you, and I'll make my case for Day 2.

Why did Llama's vote ping you?

Because after originally bringing up lacey as an absentee, when he voted it he said he was doing it to 'piss off roxy', and that felt like a way of pre-empting any possible suspicion he could take from roxy so he could paint it as a reaction to him saying he wanted to piss her off, to me.

And I agree its par for the course for you - for your baddie game. It reminds me of playing against you at RYM when you were bad. It doesn't remind me of Keeler, nor of Economics, in both of those cases your questions felt far more organic and just one of the things you were doing, they formed part of the context of you giving opinions, you are more well rounded in your approach.

And, I just realised daisy hasn't checked in yet... I thought she had, but I just realised it was roxy in a daisy suit. So we have two absentees.

Oh, I found daisy as well. Thats even more confusing than having a golden 2 floating around.

I think it's odd that you expected a lot of case making, or even a lot of opinions, from me on a 24-hour Day 1 where three meaningless votes had been cast up to that point. The fact that you've had a lot of strong opinions, none of which feel organic to me, is actually a big reason why I suspect you.

Turnip Head wrote:I think it's odd that you expected a lot of case making, or even a lot of opinions, from me on a 24-hour Day 1 where three meaningless votes had been cast up to that point. The fact that you've had a lot of strong opinions, none of which feel organic to me, is actually a big reason why I suspect you.

I don't expect a lot of anything. But you contributed a lot. You posted a lot. But it was meaningless. If you hadn't contributed nearly so much, then I wouldn't have found it odd how little of it was actually relevant or providing any view on anything. You never even said 'I don't have any particular pings' or anything like that... you just posted a whole lot. And I have had literally zero STRONG opinions, which is why I was wanting to bounce ideas off people towards the vote. When I have strong opinions, other peoples views are not going to influence what way I vote. That doesn't stop me from saying what I see.

Golden wrote:Because after originally bringing up lacey as an absentee, when he voted it he said he was doing it to 'piss off roxy', and that felt like a way of pre-empting any possible suspicion he could take from roxy so he could paint it as a reaction to him saying he wanted to piss her off, to me.

Do you think I didn't want to piss off Roxy?

Also, who is going to die tonight? Anyone want to guess?

thellama73 wrote:

Golden wrote:Because after originally bringing up lacey as an absentee, when he voted it he said he was doing it to 'piss off roxy', and that felt like a way of pre-empting any possible suspicion he could take from roxy so he could paint it as a reaction to him saying he wanted to piss her off, to me.

Do you think I didn't want to piss off Roxy?

Also, who is going to die tonight? Anyone want to guess?

I dunno. Who did you decide on, Llama?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:These players missed the vote.

Epignosis
lipsticklacey
Spacedaisy

at two of those.

Which two?

I missed it because I was entertaining an out of town guest. Sorry guys.

Golden wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:I think it's odd that you expected a lot of case making, or even a lot of opinions, from me on a 24-hour Day 1 where three meaningless votes had been cast up to that point. The fact that you've had a lot of strong opinions, none of which feel organic to me, is actually a big reason why I suspect you.

I don't expect a lot of anything. But you contributed a lot. You posted a lot. But it was meaningless. If you hadn't contributed nearly so much, then I wouldn't have found it odd how little of it was actually relevant or providing any view on anything. You never even said 'I don't have any particular pings' or anything like that... you just posted a whole lot. And I have had literally zero STRONG opinions, which is why I was wanting to bounce ideas off people towards the vote. When I have strong opinions, other peoples views are not going to influence what way I vote. That doesn't stop me from saying what I see.

You call it meaningless, but earlier you said it seemed like I was looking for reactions. Is looking for reactions meaningless? Is asking questions meaningless? Maybe to baddies, because they want to know what's going on inside my head.

I'll elaborate on what I meant by strong opinions when I have more time.

Scotty wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Golden wrote:Because after originally bringing up lacey as an absentee, when he voted it he said he was doing it to 'piss off roxy', and that felt like a way of pre-empting any possible suspicion he could take from roxy so he could paint it as a reaction to him saying he wanted to piss her off, to me.

Do you think I didn't want to piss off Roxy?

Also, who is going to die tonight? Anyone want to guess?

I dunno. Who did you decide on, Llama?

I don't get to choose.

DFaraday wrote:Remember, only 20 more minutes to send in PMs!

Sounds like someone hasn't sent a PM in yet.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Remember, only 20 more minutes to send in PMs!

Sounds like someone hasn't sent a PM in yet.

I believe all PMs are in now. Night post upcoming.

DFaraday wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Remember, only 20 more minutes to send in PMs!

Sounds like someone hasn't sent a PM in yet.

I believe all PMs are in now. Night post upcoming.

I'm liking this new mechanic here on the Syndicate.

Turnip Head wrote:

Golden wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:I think it's odd that you expected a lot of case making, or even a lot of opinions, from me on a 24-hour Day 1 where three meaningless votes had been cast up to that point. The fact that you've had a lot of strong opinions, none of which feel organic to me, is actually a big reason why I suspect you.

I don't expect a lot of anything. But you contributed a lot. You posted a lot. But it was meaningless. If you hadn't contributed nearly so much, then I wouldn't have found it odd how little of it was actually relevant or providing any view on anything. You never even said 'I don't have any particular pings' or anything like that... you just posted a whole lot. And I have had literally zero STRONG opinions, which is why I was wanting to bounce ideas off people towards the vote. When I have strong opinions, other peoples views are not going to influence what way I vote. That doesn't stop me from saying what I see.

You call it meaningless, but earlier you said it seemed like I was looking for reactions. Is looking for reactions meaningless? Is asking questions meaningless? Maybe to baddies, because they want to know what's going on inside my head.

I'll elaborate on what I meant by strong opinions when I have more time.

Not inherently meaningless, no, but in conjunction with nothing else of value - as I've said and will repeat - this is not consistent with what I know of civilian and indy TH but I have seen it from you when you were bad on RYM. I find it suspicious not because of what you HAVE said, but because of what you HAVEN'T said... ie its the absence of anything concrete that anyone could pin you down on.

Maybe I'll start things off with a vote for TH.

Spacedaisy wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:These players missed the vote.

Epignosis
lipsticklacey
Spacedaisy

at two of those.

Which two?

I missed it because I was entertaining an out of town guest. Sorry guys.

The two who had already posted in this game and who are pretty prompt players.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:These players missed the vote.

Epignosis
lipsticklacey
Spacedaisy

at two of those.

Which two?

I missed it because I was entertaining an out of town guest. Sorry guys.

The two who had already posted in this game and who are pretty prompt players.

I assume one was me because I posted once then...

Spacedaisy wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:These players missed the vote.

Epignosis
lipsticklacey
Spacedaisy

at two of those.

Which two?

I missed it because I was entertaining an out of town guest. Sorry guys.

The two who had already posted in this game and who are pretty prompt players.

I assume one was me because I posted once then...

Emphasis on the "pretty"

I would never expect Epignosis to vote on time.

thellama73 wrote:

Scotty wrote:If I had to pick the 3rd teammate of llama and greybonez, I'd probably pick MM. Just on a hunch.

But I still do want to hear the thought process from greybonez. This may not implicate llama at all, since there were five of us with 1 vote at the time.

Greybonez isn't on my team. He's just a n00b. I interpret his vote as gratitude for me introducing him to the wonderful game of mafia.

The only way you'd know greybonez wasn't on your team is if you're mafia right? Civs don't know who the other civs are...

Sorsha wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Scotty wrote:If I had to pick the 3rd teammate of llama and greybonez, I'd probably pick MM. Just on a hunch.

But I still do want to hear the thought process from greybonez. This may not implicate llama at all, since there were five of us with 1 vote at the time.

Greybonez isn't on my team. He's just a n00b. I interpret his vote as gratitude for me introducing him to the wonderful game of mafia.

The only way you'd know greybonez wasn't on your team is if you're mafia right? Civs don't know who the other civs are...

I don't consider the civs a "team" per se. They all have the same goal, but they rarely work well together.

Sorsha wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Scotty wrote:If I had to pick the 3rd teammate of llama and greybonez, I'd probably pick MM. Just on a hunch.

But I still do want to hear the thought process from greybonez. This may not implicate llama at all, since there were five of us with 1 vote at the time.

Greybonez isn't on my team. He's just a n00b. I interpret his vote as gratitude for me introducing him to the wonderful game of mafia.

The only way you'd know greybonez wasn't on your team is if you're mafia right? Civs don't know who the other civs are...

This is sort-of a big deal, is it not? Did we catch llama in a vulnerable state and he truly made a slip? Or is the man just joking? I am rereading llama today for sure.

Elohcin wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Scotty wrote:If I had to pick the 3rd teammate of llama and greybonez, I'd probably pick MM. Just on a hunch.

But I still do want to hear the thought process from greybonez. This may not implicate llama at all, since there were five of us with 1 vote at the time.

Greybonez isn't on my team. He's just a n00b. I interpret his vote as gratitude for me introducing him to the wonderful game of mafia.

The only way you'd know greybonez wasn't on your team is if you're mafia right? Civs don't know who the other civs are...

This is sort-of a big deal, is it not? Did we catch llama in a vulnerable state and he truly made a slip? Or is the man just joking? I am rereading llama today for sure.

What nonsense. You guys have played with me before. YOu know I use the word "team" to refer to BTSC groups. The civilians are not a true team. Come on, Eloh, get your head in the game.

But you clearly posted "My Team". And then go on to say that you do not "consider civ's a team per se"

Which is it?

And also if you have a "my team" you, yourself, say that you use team to imple btsc.
Ergo you have btsc.

I said he's not on my team, because I don't have a team. Duh.

thellama73 wrote:I said he's not on my team, because I don't have a team. Duh.

But you said "my team".

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I said he's not on my team, because I don't have a team. Duh.

But you said "my team".

I said "not" on my team. Because I don't have a team. If I say "No one is one my team" that doesn't imply that I have a team, just as if I say "greybonez is not on my team" doesn't imply that. I don't believe that everyone in this game cannot understand that, so I assume there are a couple of baddies among my accusers.

thellama73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I said he's not on my team, because I don't have a team. Duh.

But you said "my team".

I said "not" on my team. Because I don't have a team. If I say "No one is one my team" that doesn't imply that I have a team, just as if I say "greybonez is not on my team" doesn't imply that. I don't believe that everyone in this game cannot understand that, so I assume there are a couple of baddies among my accusers.

But you said "my team".

I just want to piss you off.

I do not want to play if people are doing shit just to piss each off tbh.

Roxy wrote:I do not want to play if people are doing shit just to piss each off tbh.

I was joking because llama said he wanted to piss you off.