The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:58 pm**

S~V~S wrote:They're awesome,aren't they ??

Is it to pick positions? Are they getting other benefits like you did?

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:01 pm**

It's Pretty much an indy role, with lots less FRILLS, just the super fun bits

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:04 pm**

It's so hard to not know the roles, now that I'm dead is killing me not knowing. I miss hosting, watching is so much more fun.

Whens the next hosting poll?

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:06 pm**

A long time unless we get the games in the queue moving. Arkham has stalled a bit.

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:07 pm**

S~V~S wrote:A long time unless we get the games in the queue moving. Arkham has stalled a bit.

It still needs 20 players. Where is everyone?

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:17 pm**

The Side Mission game only needs 4 more players so get that going first. If I die there, who knows

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:29 pm**

Typhoony wrote:The Side Mission game only needs 4 more players so get that going first. If I die there, who knows

three more. I'll kill you fast so you can sign up to Arkham.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:02 pm**

My torment has ended. At least I didn't let those mfers lynch me.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:55 pm**

Typhoony wrote:Epi is definitely a player that suffers from tunnelvision, but the amount he seems to be displaying here is bad even for his standard.
He usually decides to tunnel on more than one person and when he realizes that isn't working, he switches to other people whilst keeping his first target in mind. Thanks for reminding me of Epi. I'm changing my Llama vote to Epi for now.

Suffers? Did I lynch mafia or did I lynch mafia?

HamburgerBoy wrote:
Typhoony wrote:Who did you target last night HB?
EpiPen.

That's funny. I actually killed you.

S~V~S wrote:
Typhoony wrote:Linki: wow SVS, are they really that bad?
Yeah. They are

And I'm not a civilian.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:32 am**

I think Mac killed me. Shortly before I died I said Floyd played better than him in tree mafia, and it pissed him off.

Surprised no one picked up on the fact I had btsc with tranq, but thats the way it goes sometimes.

Epi and llama - looks like your roles were as ill fated as when SVS and I had them (although at least neither of you led a lynch on the other on day one like I did on SVS...)

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:33 am**

Scotty wrote:I think if Golden doesn't get lynched early in this game, he will win. Doesn't matter what team he is on. It's just a pattern I've seen.

Well, I could have night protected myself the night I died, and felt the urge like I needed to. But, when you have btsc, you use your powers for the agreed purposes of the team. Oh well.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:34 am**

S~V~S wrote:Nooooo you both are what baddies would call "a threat"

As someone who has tried to kill Scotty and has seen G-Man from the side of civvie btsc... I agree entirely.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:43 am**

MovingPictures07 wrote:Now watch me be terribly wrong about everyone.

You weren't wrong about me!

I wasn't wrong about JJJ. I bet I'm not wrong about FZ. Some people just radiate civilianness.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:43 am**

Turnip Head wrote:I love watching FZ play. I'm glad she agreed to, even if she didn't really want to

Me too. She feels at sea in the big games, but she is SO DAMN GOOD at them.

I love playing with FZ.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:45 am**

HamburgerBoy wrote:Although if golden's confidence was due to Jimmy being Park Place, then I guess there's just a bunch of protective roles in this game. I'd like to know why golden was so sold on Jimmy being good.

Because he did nothing that was the slightest bit scummy all game....

I can't understand why JJJ ever took heat, I really don't get it. In my book, noone should have been voting for him.

Obviously, the question as to why I vouched for tranq has been resolved. That one I thought would be obvious...

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:46 am**

Black Rock wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Welcome to Black Rock
My heart is broken. I might not ever recover from this.

You were playing so well BR. It was great to play with old school BR

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:47 am**

S~V~S wrote:I mean really, GOLDEN GOT CALLED OUT FOR DEFENDING YOU

Then he was revealed as a BTS CIVVIE

?????????????????????

Exactly...

I'm with SVS. Game of nubs.

They should lynch mac. If tranq had survived that, we were nking him.

Dom too. And LC.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:59 am**

Golden wrote:Epi and llama - looks like your roles were as ill fated as when SVS and I had them (although at least neither of you led a lynch on the other on day one like I did on SVS...)

Epi the night kill magnet and llama the lynch collector.

We knew we didn't have a chance.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:03 am**

Yeah it definitely appears LC has an angle here -- his turning against FZ was immediate after my death. "I'm sick of failing to lynch JJJ, let's just kill him and go after FZ instead."

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:56 am**

If they lynch FZ then this is the worst game ever.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:11 am**

Glad to know I was right about golden and JJJ!

I've been calling Dom and LC mafia for what seems like forever and I have no idea why they haven't been lynched. I also think DH is still probably mafia too.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:34 am**

MovingPictures07 wrote:I've been calling Dom and LC mafia for what seems like forever and I have no idea why they haven't been lynched. I also think DH is still probably mafia too.

If you're right then my game-long frustration will have felt justified. I tried pushing all three of those cases and instead of sticking they just made people want to lynch me.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:56 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I've been calling Dom and LC mafia for what seems like forever and I have no idea why they haven't been lynched. I also think DH is still probably mafia too.
If you're right then my game-long frustration will have felt justified. I tried pushing all three of those cases and instead of sticking they just made people want to lynch me.

If I had been playing, I would have been right there with you and Golden most of the time (from what I did read of the thread, mind you, since I haven't been keeping up constantly). As usual, I don't understand the lynches this game, and found my opinions disagreeing with the vast majority of players.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:25 pm**

The lynches this game have been so coordinated... Especially as the game has gone on. How can anyone actually suspect FZ.? Lol.

And here comes DH chiming in as well. He, Dom, and LC are so bad.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:35 pm**

I don't think Draconus is bad.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:46 pm**

Golden wrote:I think Mac killed me. Shortly before I died I said Floyd played better than him in tree mafia, and it pissed him off.

Surprised no one picked up on the fact I had btsc with tranq, but thats the way it goes sometimes.

Epi and llama - looks like your roles were as ill fated as when SVS and I had them (although at least neither of you led a lynch on the other on day one like I did on SVS...)

Well I knew Tranq had BTSC

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:48 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:Glad to know I was right about golden and JJJ!

I've been calling Dom and LC mafia for what seems like forever and I have no idea why they haven't been lynched. I also think DH is still probably mafia too.

I know why LC hasn't been lynched.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:01 pm**

Black Rock wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Glad to know I was right about golden and JJJ!

I've been calling Dom and LC mafia for what seems like forever and I have no idea why they haven't been lynched. I also think DH is still probably mafia too.
I know why LC hasn't been lynched.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:32 pm**

Well I call LC as civ.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:51 am**

Boomslang the cop, it seems.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:57 am**

Infodump. Lame.

And against the rules. Modkill!

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:59 am**

Typhoony wrote:Infodump. Lame.

And against the rules. Modkill!

Typically, infodumping and role claiming are totally OK in a closed setup like this, but yeah, it appears S~V~S and TH have specified otherwise.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:00 am**

It's definitely easier to defend against in a game like this... I hope LC (if he is actually bad) manages to wriggle his way out of it and win the game. Go LC!

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:02 am**

Typhoony wrote:It's definitely easier to defend against in a game like this... I hope LC (if he is actually bad) manages to wriggle his way out of it and win the game. Go LC!

That's precisely why, because no one even knows if a cop is even in the game, or whether there is and Boomslang is lying, etc. Situations like this would inevitably lead to a counterclaim and then the town lynching the player they don't believe is the cop.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:03 am**

Regardless of the fact that it's allowed or completely forbidden, it happened... which is unfortunate. Nonetheless, the only question that now remains in my mind:

Assuming he is the cop, does he only have a red peek on LC, or did he red peek other players as well; what about those other 4 names he just threw out as mafia as well? There's almost no possible way he red checked all 5... unless those were literally the last 5 names he sent in every Night. If he somehow did managed that, then holy shit.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:04 am**

He named Dom, juliets, LC, Mac, and Blooper as GTH mafia. Frankly, I could easily see any of those players as mafia.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:05 am**

And if I were the cop, I wouldn't want to throw out other GTH mafia information like that unless I had red peeks on them. Don't want players to misinterpret what I actually knew for sure from what I was guessing.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:06 am**

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Typhoony wrote:Infodump. Lame.

And against the rules. Modkill!
Typically, infodumping and role claiming are totally OK in a closed setup like this, but yeah, it appears S~V~S and TH have specified otherwise.

We have? We said

This game is closed set up. This allows for limited role claiming. But be careful about that, and do NOT involve other people in your claim.

So people can say they are a cop, the Easter Bunny, whoever. They can say they are any role that existed this year. Whether or not that role is in the game is up to debate. Do you guys really think TH or I would give an info role to just anyone?

Silly Spectators.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:07 am**

I think those are his opinions

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:08 am**

Also why do you think we would have a role that has "peeks"?

He is bluffing.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:09 am**

I'll just say that I have no idea what Boomslang is doing

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:10 am**

Yeah, or that

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:11 am**

S~V~S wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Typhoony wrote:Infodump. Lame.

And against the rules. Modkill!
Typically, infodumping and role claiming are totally OK in a closed setup like this, but yeah, it appears S~V~S and TH have specified otherwise.
We have? We said

This game is closed set up. This allows for limited role claiming. But be careful about that, and do NOT involve other people in your claim.
So people can say they are a cop, the Easter Bunny, whoever. They can say they are any role that existed this year. Whether or not that role is in the game is up to debate. Do you guys really think TH or I would give an info role to just anyone?

Silly Spectators.

Well, that's what I would have thought, but in the same rules post you also say:

*No role outing of others
*No info dumping~ which means no night results, no info gleaned via BTS, etc.

So it's a bit unclear what exactly constitutes as "info dumping".

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:11 am**

S~V~S wrote:Also why do you think we would have a role that has "peeks"?

He is bluffing.

So what you're telling me is that you included no role checker in this game.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:14 am**

No that is not what I am telling you. Is a "peek" the same thing as a role check? I thought it was different, like the host gave them random info. We might have a role checker of sorts. But like TH said, I have no idea what Boomslang is doing, lol.

Take that as you will.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:15 am**

Another possibility is that Boomslang has a tracker-like role card (doesn't have to be a straight up cop), thinks he saw LC killing last night (?), and is going after him as a result. And his GTH exercise is completely honest, having nothing to do with outside-the-thread information.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:16 am**

S~V~S wrote:No that is not what I am telling you. Is a "peek" the same thing as a role check? I thought it was different, like the host gave them random info. We might have a role checker of sorts. But like TH said, I have no idea what Boomslang is doing, lol.

Take that as you will.

Yeah, my bad, I didn't mean to be unclear -- peek = role check

For example, in LP-based mafia communities for years, we'd say
"The role checker role checks"
whereas other communities might say
"The cop peeks" or "The seer peeks"

Typically, the cop and seer can receive a random n0 peek, which is like a free night action, so that's probably what you're thinking of, but the peek itself just = role check; they're synonymous wording as far as I'm aware.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:17 am**

Well, I'm nonetheless intrigued as to what unfolds as a result. If this is some kind of crazy gambit by Boomslang, he has no information, but really thinks LC is mafia so he's faking info... then that's ballsy. I've tried that before and it 100% backfired in my face, because the person I was claiming was mafia was actually the cop.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:19 am**

The other possibility is that LC and Boomslang are both bad, and this is Boomslang's way to throw him under the bus, but... that seems silly, because by faking info like he is now, then he's setting forth the assumption that the mafia will have to kill him tonight. Then when they don't, it'll inevitably raise questions. That, and LC didn't have to be lynched today.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:20 am**

MovingPictures07 wrote:Another possibility is that Boomslang has a tracker-like role card (doesn't have to be a straight up cop), thinks he saw LC killing last night (?), and is going after him as a result. And his GTH exercise is completely honest, having nothing to do with outside-the-thread information.

Another possibility is that we have no clue what he is doing.

Um, and gotcha re peeks. With the colors and I have heard that in some games there is a civ peek before the game or something to that effect, I was not sure they were the same thing.

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