The Syndicate

Fredwood wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Fredwood wrote:Long Con's narrative just makes no sense to me in general. From what I've seen him as scum, I guess I wouldn't be surprised if he deflected his own teammates pressure of who they think is opposite Don, only to resume pressure later. It also wouldn't surprise me if he was a Reaper, knew Vega was a safe claim and then tried to pin Epi in a different way.

What about my "narrative" doesn't make sense to you?

The narrative that you are Cerberus.

So do you want to make sense of the Long Con is Cerberus narrative for me?

Actually, it's funny. I started out in Mafia on the now-defunct Lostpedia Forums. My original name there was Cerberus, but I got banned and came back as Long Con.

Long Con wrote:Actually, it's funny. I started out in Mafia on the now-defunct Lostpedia Forums. My original name there was Cerberus, but I got banned and came back as Long Con.

That is actually pretty hilarious. I now see that the long con is that you were secretly someone they banned. Did that ever get revealed?

gfishfunk wrote:

Long Con wrote:Actually, it's funny. I started out in Mafia on the now-defunct Lostpedia Forums. My original name there was Cerberus, but I got banned and came back as Long Con.

That is actually pretty hilarious. I now see that the long con is that you were secretly someone they banned. Did that ever get revealed?

That is exactly the Long Con of it. I even made up a fake name (James Dealer) and signed up under his email and Photobucket account. It's still my main Photobucket to this day. By the time it was revealed, I was too integrated into the community to consider re-banning for some old grudgey shit.

Night 2 is over.

It is Day 3. You have 48 hours to lynch someone. A proper write up will come as soon as we're able.

Write up

Silver Lantern wrote:Taking the liberty of paraphrasing

Jack: "Silver isn't hunting, ergo he's scum silver."

I openly admit that I have not led and I have not been hunting at all.

But you know what stops Town Silver from hunting Jack? Constantly being on the defensive from your BS accusations. You know that you know how to push my buttons like nobody's business and you know that by pushing on me, you will keep me tied up from participating with the town.

That right there is reason #1 why you're scum.

So the number one reason I'm scum is because you decided to Phone in the game?

I'm alives. Why all rllama peopke die??

Hi jack. U svum??

Dyslexicon wrote:Hi jack. U svum??

Are you trying to hijack the thread?

Also RIP, sweet Dom. I always love when you're around because then we don't need Llama OR Epignosis.

RIP Dom.

Long Con wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:

Long Con wrote:Actually, it's funny. I started out in Mafia on the now-defunct Lostpedia Forums. My original name there was Cerberus, but I got banned and came back as Long Con.

That is actually pretty hilarious. I now see that the long con is that you were secretly someone they banned. Did that ever get revealed?

That is exactly the Long Con of it. I even made up a fake name (James Dealer) and signed up under his email and Photobucket account. It's still my main Photobucket to this day. By the time it was revealed, I was too integrated into the community to consider re-banning for some old grudgey shit.

Hahaha, I knew you'd make the "Long Con is Cerberus" joke/connection eventually.
Also, I always wondered about the "jdealer" name. Funny.

Damn, all you folks be havin' lives on Friday night.

I thought that recent Nifty analysis looked very good. I recall thinking earlier "Nifty is totally not on X team" for some reason, but that recap was very coherent and straightforward.

Fred. You're wrong.

I'm not scum of any flavor. You're completely off base.

I thought I had a way to temporarily re-power you. I was wrong. Less able to prove my civness now.

I could try to counter each of your arguments, but my gut tells me it won't matter. I don't have anything really useful, other than my gut says silver, adam and TSP are shady.

Well the good news is I don't tunnel and the other good news is that no one else seems to give a fuck.

The bad news is I don't like the avoidance of the suspicion, If I were an asshole who was known to tunnel I would understand not wanting to respond...otherwise

Anyway, sorry to see Garrus go, do we learn anything from his death?

Does it seem odd that Cerberus hit Dom to anyone else but me?

Fredwood wrote:Anyway, sorry to see Garrus go, do we learn anything from his death?

Does it seem odd that Cerberus hit Dom to anyone else but me?

The obvious target would be Epignosis, but maybe they just assume he'll get lynched.

Or maybe they tried to kill Epi, and failed, and the Dom kill was a one-shot.

Fredwood's analysis was one of the best I've ever seen.

He doesn't usually do those?

Bravo.

CAP (in his ass)

Long Con wrote:

Fredwood wrote:Anyway, sorry to see Garrus go, do we learn anything from his death?

Does it seem odd that Cerberus hit Dom to anyone else but me?

The obvious target would be Epignosis, but maybe they just assume he'll get lynched.

Or maybe they tried to kill Epi, and failed, and the Dom kill was a one-shot.

Why am I the obvious target?

Fredwood wrote:Anyway, sorry to see Garrus go, do we learn anything from his death?

Does it seem odd that Cerberus hit Dom to anyone else but me?

The first thing that pops into my head is Jack. While just about everyone is suspicious of him, no one really got under his skin except Dom. I can see 2 scenarios.

1) Jack had his Cerberus pals hit Dom. This is not a particularly likely scenario, but it's possible.
2) Cerberus hit Dom hoping to push the above theory today hoping that the lynch of JoH sticks.

Either way Dom is dangerous to scum and I'm sure that's why they hit him.

A most unfortunate death.

Mr. Nifty:

Why did you vote for me instead of Gfishfunk when he was your second most suspected person and then you voted Gfishfunk after I, your most suspected person, voted for him?

CaptainNifty wrote:Fred. You're wrong.

I'm not scum of any flavor. You're completely off base.

I thought I had a way to temporarily re-power you. I was wrong. Less able to prove my civness now.

I could try to counter each of your arguments, but my gut tells me it won't matter. I don't have anything really useful, other than my gut says silver, adam and TSP are shady.

No. No bullshit. I don't care about your gut.

How were you going to re-power Fred?

CaptainNifty wrote:

Fredwood wrote:Anyway, sorry to see Garrus go, do we learn anything from his death?

Does it seem odd that Cerberus hit Dom to anyone else but me?

The first thing that pops into my head is Jack. While just about everyone is suspicious of him, no one really got under his skin except Dom. I can see 2 scenarios.

1) Jack had his Cerberus pals hit Dom. This is not a particularly likely scenario, but it's possible.
2) Cerberus hit Dom hoping to push the above theory today hoping that the lynch of JoH sticks.

Either way Dom is dangerous to scum and I'm sure that's why they hit him.

How does mafia know Dom is dangerous?

You are bad.

Honestly, Realms people, I think the over-reliance on role checks and role reveals and role this and role that is telling on you.

Epignosis wrote:Fredwood's analysis was one of the best I've ever seen.

I know, right? Succinct.

Epignosis wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Fredwood wrote:Anyway, sorry to see Garrus go, do we learn anything from his death?

Does it seem odd that Cerberus hit Dom to anyone else but me?

The obvious target would be Epignosis, but maybe they just assume he'll get lynched.

Or maybe they tried to kill Epi, and failed, and the Dom kill was a one-shot.

Why am I the obvious target?

Because your role claim makes you Anything-But-Cerberus-Aligned. If they don't assume you'll get lynched, then ya gots ta go for a Cerberus win, being a Hostile Indy, and someone who neither the Reapers or a Civ vig would elect to kill. Assuming you wisely play both sides as I have laid out multiple times.

Epignosis wrote:Honestly, Realms people, I think the over-reliance on role checks and role reveals and role this and role that is telling on you.

How do you mean?

Epignosis wrote:Mr. Nifty:

Why did you vote for me instead of Gfishfunk when he was your second most suspected person and then you voted Gfishfunk after I, your most suspected person, voted for him?

CaptainNifty wrote:Fred. You're wrong.

I'm not scum of any flavor. You're completely off base.

I thought I had a way to temporarily re-power you. I was wrong. Less able to prove my civness now.

I could try to counter each of your arguments, but my gut tells me it won't matter. I don't have anything really useful, other than my gut says silver, adam and TSP are shady.

No. No bullshit. I don't care about your gut.

How were you going to re-power Fred?

CaptainNifty wrote:

Fredwood wrote:Anyway, sorry to see Garrus go, do we learn anything from his death?

Does it seem odd that Cerberus hit Dom to anyone else but me?

The first thing that pops into my head is Jack. While just about everyone is suspicious of him, no one really got under his skin except Dom. I can see 2 scenarios.

1) Jack had his Cerberus pals hit Dom. This is not a particularly likely scenario, but it's possible.
2) Cerberus hit Dom hoping to push the above theory today hoping that the lynch of JoH sticks.

Either way Dom is dangerous to scum and I'm sure that's why they hit him.

How does mafia know Dom is dangerous?

You are bad.

They know Dom is dangerous because he is obviously a good player. Kinda like cbob was dangerous. In addition Dom is especially dangerous to Jack's faction.

No, I'm not bad. But you are an asshole.

Epignosis wrote:Honestly, Realms people, I think the over-reliance on role checks and role reveals and role this and role that is telling on you.

You're the only one who has brought anything like this up this phase. Furthermore, this very criticism has been brought by Realms people in this thread. I would say, while the Realms may rely to heavily on role reveals and info dumps, the Syndicate people (you especially) seem to reject it out of hand.

I'm going to bed, so I'm done with this conversation for a few hours, but you won't have to worry about some of us Realms people being back. After this game, I'm not likely to come back to the Syndicate. While most people have been welcoming, and we've had some playstyle friction, your open hostility and outright rudeness to the people from my site is just offensive. Frankly, it's one of the reasons I hoped you were lynched yesterday, just because my enjoyment of the game would increase with you gone. Instead I voted for game scum instead of you.

One more thing. Until there is a better target vote Jack
See I'm still voting for scum instead of the asshole neutral

CaptainNifty wrote:

Fredwood wrote:Anyway, sorry to see Garrus go, do we learn anything from his death?

Does it seem odd that Cerberus hit Dom to anyone else but me?

The first thing that pops into my head is Jack. While just about everyone is suspicious of him, no one really got under his skin except Dom. I can see 2 scenarios.

1) Jack had his Cerberus pals hit Dom. This is not a particularly likely scenario, but it's possible.
2) Cerberus hit Dom hoping to push the above theory today hoping that the lynch of JoH sticks.

Either way Dom is dangerous to scum and I'm sure that's why they hit him.

Pretty sure going down this road is literally the definition of WiFOM

Well Jack can't kill Dom because it would draw attention to himself, so clearly it must Cerberus trying to frame him.
Well Jack knows that a kill on Dom will look like someone trying to frame him, so it's just the move Jack would do if he was scum
Well Jack can't kill Dom because we all know it would be a smart ploy to kill the obvious to provide cover cus we'll all be wise to it.
Well Jack comes from Australia and as we all know Australia is full of criminals so clearly Jack had to have killed Dom
Well Jack can't have killed Dom because clearly he studies, and he knows that Man is mortal so clearly we can't lynch him
Well Jack had to have killed Dom because knows that we know that knows that he knows...WHAT IN THE WORLD CAN THAT BE?

When all along Jack had slowly built up an immunity to Iacane all along just in case he was ever caught in a battle of wits with a Sicilian.

If we lynch Jack, the Dom kill isn't likely to be a determining factor for me, Dom's death could mean anything in regards to Jack. Much like Silver and the fauxgressiveness condundrum he currently finds himself in.

Is there any other reason to kill Dom if it wasn't to frame Jack, maybe an ISO is in order, but I don't recall Dom having a lot of interaction outside of Jack? If I'm mafia I think the play is to just stay away from that situation entirely Dom is one of the main reasons for Jack's heat, and even part of the cost/benefit value of lynching Jack. Removing one of his biggest detractors devalues the town's benefit for lynching him.

Outside of him being a strong player I mean.

If he is a strong player, he wasn't leading the town, removing a leader, mainly the Doctor means that Dom's voice is louder and a Jack lynch is more likely.

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Honestly, Realms people, I think the over-reliance on role checks and role reveals and role this and role that is telling on you.

How do you mean?

I think he means we rely more on mechanics as opposed to analysis because of how the meta developed. This was brought up in Phenom as well, but with half of us being represented here, how we get to the mechanical can be jarring, especially in the early game. I think our mechanical aptitude shouldn't be discounted though, without doing the math, and presenting a non-independently confirmed biased factual argument, but our town win rate is just as high as here I'd imagine.

To use Phenom as another example, the first few days were rather hectic with all the reads and counter reads and analysis of seemingly every thing anyone said, it felt akin to watching squirrel herders. However, after Night 2 or 3, the game played out and progressed pretty much like every other game on the Realms would.

Now you take the Realms approach of reliance on early random pressure, info dumps, and often no lynch during day pahses, and where the refusal to capitulate to random pressure with an info dump is often viewed as scum behavior and introduce it into an environment enmasse where it's not a proven method of playing, stuff happens. To me it was the most interesting thing about this game was seeing how the two meshed on a large scale. It's a shame how it's playing out for some with the feeling that the other side is attacking the way the otherside does things, especially once we get to the good part of the game mid-late game, the play is relatively similar and I've enjoyed playing at both places.

The case on Nifty looks pretty strong. I think I'm most likely to vote for either him or Adam. Or Jack, Fred's right about the endless wifom/frame-up question wrt Dom and I could see it either way.

Long Con wrote:

Fredwood wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Fredwood wrote:Long Con's narrative just makes no sense to me in general. From what I've seen him as scum, I guess I wouldn't be surprised if he deflected his own teammates pressure of who they think is opposite Don, only to resume pressure later. It also wouldn't surprise me if he was a Reaper, knew Vega was a safe claim and then tried to pin Epi in a different way.

What about my "narrative" doesn't make sense to you?

The narrative that you are Cerberus.

So do you want to make sense of the Long Con is Cerberus narrative for me?

Actually, it's funny. I started out in Mafia on the now-defunct Lostpedia Forums. My original name there was Cerberus, but I got banned and came back as Long Con.

I miss these times.
And being alive.

Epignosis wrote:Honestly, Realms people, I think the over-reliance on role checks and role reveals and role this and role that is telling on you.

I could say the reverse about Syndicate folks. "So-and-so is exhibiting strong town behavior because of X, Y, and Z." All of that is subjective post analysis. I thought gfish was town because he was selling out pretty hard to get you lynched. That is fairly typical "town" behavior from him. It turned out to not be typical behavior from him.

The bottom line is there are many different ways to play. The chips fall where they may but saying one playstyle is inherently better than the other comes across as folly.

It sucks about Dom but again, one kill. To me, that says there is an info-based lead out there that is worth exploring.

CaptainNifty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Mr. Nifty:

Why did you vote for me instead of Gfishfunk when he was your second most suspected person and then you voted Gfishfunk after I, your most suspected person, voted for him?

CaptainNifty wrote:Fred. You're wrong.

I'm not scum of any flavor. You're completely off base.

I thought I had a way to temporarily re-power you. I was wrong. Less able to prove my civness now.

I could try to counter each of your arguments, but my gut tells me it won't matter. I don't have anything really useful, other than my gut says silver, adam and TSP are shady.

No. No bullshit. I don't care about your gut.

How were you going to re-power Fred?

CaptainNifty wrote:

Fredwood wrote:Anyway, sorry to see Garrus go, do we learn anything from his death?

Does it seem odd that Cerberus hit Dom to anyone else but me?

The first thing that pops into my head is Jack. While just about everyone is suspicious of him, no one really got under his skin except Dom. I can see 2 scenarios.

1) Jack had his Cerberus pals hit Dom. This is not a particularly likely scenario, but it's possible.
2) Cerberus hit Dom hoping to push the above theory today hoping that the lynch of JoH sticks.

Either way Dom is dangerous to scum and I'm sure that's why they hit him.

How does mafia know Dom is dangerous?

You are bad.

They know Dom is dangerous because he is obviously a good player. Kinda like cbob was dangerous. In addition Dom is especially dangerous to Jack's faction.

No, I'm not bad. But you are an asshole.

Epignosis wrote:Honestly, Realms people, I think the over-reliance on role checks and role reveals and role this and role that is telling on you.

You're the only one who has brought anything like this up this phase. Furthermore, this very criticism has been brought by Realms people in this thread. I would say, while the Realms may rely to heavily on role reveals and info dumps, the Syndicate people (you especially) seem to reject it out of hand.

I'm going to bed, so I'm done with this conversation for a few hours, but you won't have to worry about some of us Realms people being back. After this game, I'm not likely to come back to the Syndicate. While most people have been welcoming, and we've had some playstyle friction, your open hostility and outright rudeness to the people from my site is just offensive. Frankly, it's one of the reasons I hoped you were lynched yesterday, just because my enjoyment of the game would increase with you gone. Instead I voted for game scum instead of you.

First, I never called anyone an "asshole," like you have to me twice now.

Second, I can mock the civilians all I want. It's my role. "Do you feel the fears swell inside that filthy bag of meat? What is like to be afraid? Why do you cling to such a pathetic existence? If you could only feel a spark of my glory. I despise my creations, for they have forced me to rely on a speck such as you." See?

Third, you claim you wanted me out because your enjoyment would increase with me gone. Yet you voted for me second before I had even begun to respond to gfishfunk's bullshit role block case against me. So what did I do or say before your vote that made you want me gone? When I said I didn't give a shit about your puny pressure votes, I wasn't being rude or joking or criticizing how anybody plays- I meant it. I was being truthful. "Filthy meatsacks!" Like I said, I knew what I was doing all along.

Fourth, my comment about relying on role claims and the like was not an insult, but rather an accusation and a playful acknowledgement of irony: When I was accused of being bad, I predicted there and then that role claiming would not advance the civilians due to all the available roles left to claim (and I of course knew I had a fake one to claim anyway, so I extrapolated that mafia would have fake ones as well). gfishfunk made this hostile advancement on me by first lying about a role block (golly, that sure isn't a very nice thing to do- lying about a role block to get a person lynched and removed from the game! But he's not an asshole...) and then led you and others from your site to get me lynched. The massive irony was that a role claim did result in a mafia lynch, but it was because the fake claim used was inconsistent to the civilian optimal use of that role. I wonder, therefore, who else may be caught in this or a similar trap. Again, irony, not insult.

Finally, I don't disrespect you Realms folk at all. On the contrary. For example: Lying about a role block in an open setup to get me lynched on Day 2? I normally keep this sort of commentary to myself until after everything is done, but I don't mind saying it now: I love those brass balls. I have immense respect for gfishfunk's ploy. It was conniving and risky and all that I admire about evilness. It simply didn't pan out, and that happens. Even without ever seeing him play as a civilian, I can already see that he is a skilled and enthusiastic civilian when he is one.

Nothing anyone says in the context of Mafia should be taken as a reflection of that person. In our last foray, I caught S~V~S as mafia, and she got pissy at me to the extent that I believed she was good and that was enough to secure her team's win. On the surface, that stings, but do I think she's a bad person for it? Not at all. She used what worked to accomplish what needed to be accomplished. She tricked me. That's all fair game. This is a game of emotional and logical manipulation.

So I accept any assessment that I am being arrogant or aggressive. But I am not an asshole.

Immortal_Raven wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Honestly, Realms people, I think the over-reliance on role checks and role reveals and role this and role that is telling on you.

I could say the reverse about Syndicate folks. "So-and-so is exhibiting strong town behavior because of X, Y, and Z." All of that is subjective post analysis. I thought gfish was town because he was selling out pretty hard to get you lynched. That is fairly typical "town" behavior from him. It turned out to not be typical behavior from him.

The bottom line is there are many different ways to play. The chips fall where they may but saying one playstyle is inherently better than the other comes across as folly.

It sucks about Dom but again, one kill. To me, that says there is an info-based lead out there that is worth exploring.

See above.

Also, there was only one kill because there was only supposed to be one kill:

REAPERS (3 roles)
They kill on Nights 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12 (and so on with even-numbered nights)

CERBERUS (3 roles)
They kill on Nights 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 9, 11, 13 (and so on with odd-numbered nights)

This was a Cerberus kill.

I don't want to sound like some hippy, but I am enjoying the positives of playstyle-meshing. This whole Epignosis-is-he-really-Geth?-thing never would have been possible without the claiming pressure. And yes, I still think he got nervous, despite the fact that he can never admit such a thing. I think he's unfamiliar with claiming-pressure, so he made a sly hint-claim as a going-halfway kind of thing.

From Epi's perspective, only some people were supposed to pick up on the claim. Syndicate-style hinting, where you drop little tidbits that you hope the Civs pick up on, and will defend you with a wink and nod in your direction... like, "I feel smart, I picked up your hint that others missed, you can count on me, Civ-brother, to keep it under wraps and defend you in the thread."

That's why he didn't just say "I am James Vega, get off my back." If he was actually executing some convoluted plan based on the lack of a kill on Night 1, then there's no reason for subtlety. Subtlety hinders the "plan", because the "plan" relies on people understanding that he is claiming James Vega, and the baddies that he presumes targeted him calling him out on the discrepancy.

And let's not forget that this plan also hinged on him publicly claiming an Indy-that-can-turn-bad role. That's one of the main flaws here. It's a deal-breaker. Being revealed as The Geth is not good for his survival, no matter how he tries to convince you he's not a Reaper.

Day 3, no Reapers dead. What are the chances, Wilgy, that he'll choose Reapers now? Maybe he'll wait, and we'll lynch a Reaper today, and he'll tuck tail and join the Alliance? What if we don't lynch a Reaper today?

DrWilgy wrote:This means Epi - Didn't use the full allotted time to see which side was winning...

Even by Wilgy's standards, Epi is a Reaper. And Wilgy is Epi's number one fan.

"(and I of course knew I had a fake one to claim anyway, so I extrapolated that mafia would have fake ones as well)"... Sure, you extrapolated it. Orrrr... you know it because you are it. Good thing you made it clear to us HOW you think Mafia has safe-claim roles to use, or we might have thought YOU are Mafia!

@LC, I'd say that it's 50/50

I'd think Epi would want to win with civs, as that is somewhat standard.

If we lynch a civ today he may choose otherwise.

Regardless he doesn't count for win condition and he has to hunt Cerberus regardless of faction. I see no reason to vote for Epi unless his vote could swing it for the reapers.

Epi doesn't even know who the reapers are inherently, so

Also good morning. I'm hungover and busy today so idk how active I can be. I'd like to hit a Reaper today if possible.

JoH, why do you think Cerberus killed Dom?

DrWilgy wrote:I'd think Epi would want to win with civs, as that is somewhat standard.

If we lynch a civ today he may choose otherwise.

Ok...

Epignosis wrote:Right now my projections currently predict the civilians getting positively hosed.

This is a guy who is going to choose to win with the Civs? He says this after only two Civilians are dead.

Long Con wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:I'd think Epi would want to win with civs, as that is somewhat standard.

If we lynch a civ today he may choose otherwise.

Ok...

Epignosis wrote:Right now my projections currently predict the civilians getting positively hosed.

This is a guy who is going to choose to win with the Civs? He says this after only two Civilians are dead.

You think Epi will just choose the easiest option? You also think he's saying these things for his own health?

DrWilgy wrote:

Long Con wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:I'd think Epi would want to win with civs, as that is somewhat standard.

If we lynch a civ today he may choose otherwise.

Ok...

Epignosis wrote:Right now my projections currently predict the civilians getting positively hosed.

This is a guy who is going to choose to win with the Civs? He says this after only two Civilians are dead.

You think Epi will just choose the easiest option?

I think Epi will choose the smartest option. I'd choose the Reapers.

You also think he's saying these things for his own health?

"For his own health", eh?

The way I read that expression is meaning "for no real reason at all", because obviously stuff said in Mafia has no real effect on a person's health. Correct me if I'm wrong.

So no, I don't think he said that for no reason at all, he said that to manipulate people into doing what he wants. EVEN IF he's pure of heart and only has an Alliance win on his mind, he's still saying that to manipulate people into doing what he wants. Surely you understand that.

@DrWilgy with Dom being killed and also pushing to kill JoH earlier, how do you think this reflects back at JoH?

sprityo wrote:@DrWilgy with Dom being killed and also pushing to kill JoH earlier, how do you think this reflects back at JoH?

Possibly, why do you ask?

DrWilgy wrote:

sprityo wrote:@DrWilgy with Dom being killed and also pushing to kill JoH earlier, how do you think this reflects back at JoH?

Hmm... I misread this, I thought you said "do you think."

Not "how"

Indifference really. Dom was supatown.

What do you think on the Matter Sprit?

DrWilgy wrote:What do you think on the Matter Sprit?

I see it as a WIFOM sitation where either Cerberus killed Dom to reflect bad on JoH so we lynch JoH who is still an enigma, or JoH is Cerberus and wants us to believe as such.

Or maybe a third option and I'm speaking in hypotheticals again.

sprityo wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:What do you think on the Matter Sprit?

I see it as a WIFOM sitation where either Cerberus killed Dom to reflect bad on JoH so we lynch JoH who is still an enigma, or JoH is Cerberus and wants us to believe as such.

Or maybe a third option and I'm speaking in hypotheticals again.

So what do you gain from your question?

Quiet day today.I think Jack or Nifty will be lynched today. Fredwood's "My First ISO" case on Nifty makes me more likely to lean that way.

Of course, if anyone reasonable wants to vote Epi, that's cool too. I'm just going to rest my vote there in case someone was on vacation and doesn't get that I think he needs to go.

Apologies for the continued shit activity. It's been busy as fuck lately. I've hardly had time for anything.

I'll catch up in full sometime today I'm sure; I should have time.

I like that case on Nifty. He does look like he could be teamed with Gfish.
Won't have much time to play this evening, unfortunately it seems I have a social life. I should be free tomorrow though.

CaptainNifty wrote:They know Dom is dangerous because he is obviously a good player. Kinda like cbob was dangerous. In addition Dom is especially dangerous to Jack's faction.

And you know Jack is in a faction how? This reads like you're Cerb that has a cop check on Jack or something to that effect.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Apologies for the continued shit activity. It's been busy as fuck lately. I've hardly had time for anything.

I'll catch up in full sometime today I'm sure; I should have time.

Miss you MP. I chose you as my Civ on Day 1.

DrWilgy wrote:Ok, so I'm thinking we send LC to kill Bob while I'll role block MP.

Hey!

Why didn't anyone comment on this? Wilgy tried to fakeslip and get me in trouble and no one even blinked an eye.