Re: Bonk Mafia (Day 2)
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:00 pm
Which ones?
Which ones?
townie mind meld
Why would I be trying to appease Tony if I was scum? He's in the POE - nobody's really listening to him or sheeping his solves. Falcon is widely suspected. If I was trying to ensure Falcon is choppable, all I have to do is push on him and kill him. Yes, Tony might accuse me of being wolf because I'm misreading Falcon, but scum!Alison wouldn't care about that; in this position I'd focus on pocketing town leaders that I know well, like you and Mac rather than trying to play ball with someone else in the POE.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:56 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine
Her treatment of falcon is my current biggest doubt. She gives enough town credit to try to appease Tony's expectations for a proper meta read, and takes enough back to ensure he's still POE and choppable.
oktutuu wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:48 pmsince nobody else claimed to have received a role it was safe the assume the mafia PR giver was dead (scotty) so traps or reaction tests or stuff werent really necessary but yeah, good to know famRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:42 pmMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:16 pm I know Mac has the ovaries to pull off a fake claim and all that, but it would be a bit...useless?...to claim giving Rondo a role knowing it would be denied. It achieves little for his hypothetical scum team.
Mac is just 'shrug, probs town' until we have anything more to go off of, imo.I indeed did get a role cop option made available night 1 for night 2, I have two shots and I wanted to see who would try to swing votes in either my or Macs direction.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 6:22 pm ok so...
maybe rondo is a wolf here and reacted like this because he's got no idea how to play this game
Considering wolves are hard up would they try to use this as an option to chop myself or mac
or do they know that I am trying to trap them and not saying anything? Do you see TMI in any of these posts?
Could Mac be lying about giving the role? Unlikely since he claimed who he gave it to and what exactly he gave.![]()
what the fuckMizery wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:56 pmthat's a pointless use becauseRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:54 pm well I will find out if Mac is mafia tomorrow by using my power but considering there are no other claims for powers it means Scott was power role wolf mechs wise. so Mac is hard clear and if mac is hard clear I am soft? clear because I didnt throw him under the bus? Nah I am NAI at best
> if he is scum and you target him you might get a town result because wack
> if he is town...then he is town and you will get town.
I mean.
Yeah.
This doesn't make much sense but neither does it not make any
this person is always town imoMizery wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:06 pminb4 the team is actually legitimately rando/mac and they just did a bad fake cop claimNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:04 pmI mean you just called it a role cop lol, had to make sureRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:48 pmMac, Tutuu and I have already said, 2 shot cop, good or bad only
that's pretty much the entire reason I gave him the cop check tbhNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:08 pmI think you always die tonight tbhRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:07 pmwolves killed Dunya over role giver?
Yes
Addressing some of the concerns expressed here:RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:01 pm A lower post count than Axe with 55 if you include LM's poosts not a good sign.
Refuses to take in the whole game, NAI?Spoiler: show
Random vote not explained
Says we wont get top game as an excuse for not catching up on a sub in game?Spoiler: show
Proceeds to actually try and impact the game, actions do not match up with words here.If Alison flips scum it is likely the POE here does not contain the final wolf. hiding the wolf in not saying their name?Spoiler: show
Following this logic. LM chose to not vote because at that point there was no choice, make yourself look terrible and vote for anyone but scotty or jump on at the last second and look like a bus?Spoiler: show
Not sure if actually true, could be a way of excusing behavior.Spoiler: showSpoiler: showSpoiler: showAlison and Nanook are not on the same team?Spoiler: show
A push on Motel, TSP and Faclon all in one post.Spoiler: show
Mac has been removed from POE nothing stellar.Spoiler: showPlacing Axe within the POE when no one day one that I rate personally had axe in the POE also could be seen as a lie?Spoiler: show
Final stance on townSpoiler: show
Im not going to link them all but alison does a lot of secret and direct clearing of Dyson
if alison is wolf, Dyson is partner?
Have a read of ISO and let me know what you think
this kill literally means never let Jay win at lylo and not a single thing elseNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:13 pm I mean Dunia/dya is a weird choice for a doc dodge
someone else will be getting a role because I have only handed out one role so farTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:21 pm I’ll state the obvious: barring someone else getting a role or Dunya not claiming yesterday Mac is actually confirmed town and doubts on this are to be postponed until like day 5
rudeMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:12 pmthat's pretty much the entire reason I gave him the cop check tbhNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:08 pmI think you always die tonight tbhRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:07 pmwolves killed Dunya over role giver?
Yes
Day 1Alison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:13 pm Nobody is clearing Axe. There are people who feel better about him and people who feel worse about him, but nobody seems eager to place him in the towncore, sugesting that he is POE. This is what I meant - the debate about how townie he's been has largely centered around whether he should be upper or lower POE, but nobody has seriously suggested that he should be cleared to the best of my knowledge.
Sorry it wasn't meant to be rude, I needed to hand it out to someone that the mafia (on this site) would really not enjoy having to kill and that I was townreading.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:16 pmrudeMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:12 pmthat's pretty much the entire reason I gave him the cop check tbhNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:08 pmI think you always die tonight tbhRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:07 pmwolves killed Dunya over role giver?
Yes![]()
I fancy that neither Jay or Nanook would say he's clearly out of the POE. A day 1 POE is just a glorified reads list. Today's POE we have actual information.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:18 pmDay 1Alison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:13 pm Nobody is clearing Axe. There are people who feel better about him and people who feel worse about him, but nobody seems eager to place him in the towncore, sugesting that he is POE. This is what I meant - the debate about how townie he's been has largely centered around whether he should be upper or lower POE, but nobody has seriously suggested that he should be cleared to the best of my knowledge.
Dunya, JJJ, Nanook
all had Axe not in their POE
To say otherwise is a lie.
I don't know or care about what's going on Day 1. I'm talking about D2 and the POE being collectively hammered out here. Who here thinks Axe should be totally towncleared and taken out of the POE?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:18 pmDay 1Alison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:13 pm Nobody is clearing Axe. There are people who feel better about him and people who feel worse about him, but nobody seems eager to place him in the towncore, sugesting that he is POE. This is what I meant - the debate about how townie he's been has largely centered around whether he should be upper or lower POE, but nobody has seriously suggested that he should be cleared to the best of my knowledge.
Dunya, JJJ, Nanook
all had Axe not in their POE
To say otherwise is a lie.
Nah I appreciate it. I was acting scummy. I just always die before day 3 hahah.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:18 pmSorry it wasn't meant to be rude, I needed to hand it out to someone that the mafia (on this site) would really not enjoy having to kill and that I was townreading.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:16 pmrudeMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:12 pmthat's pretty much the entire reason I gave him the cop check tbhNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:08 pmI think you always die tonight tbhRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:07 pmwolves killed Dunya over role giver?
Yes![]()
My entire approach to this game has been trying to force the mafia to mak sub-optimal kills and leave Jay alive. I am surprised they didn't kill me but I don't really want to read into it all that much at this point.
I would go TSP first but I don't care that much because I still feel as though you are probably right. I also feel like there is probably two mafia on Dyson Sphere only, so once we flip the other one that is on there we can probably clear the rest of that wagon and then start flipping the Jay voters not named Mac instead.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:19 pm My reads haven't really changed. I continue to feel comfortable with my POE ordering and nothing has made me question my townclears. My legacy is clear, and I think it's also fairly uncontroversial: go motel first, then TSP, then nanook, then Axe/Falcon and you should win. Kill me to assuage your doubts if you must; we have space for an extra misexe if both scum are contained in those five names. Reasses at LyLo in case it's MR slipping past the cracks or something, but until then I feel that this game is going in the right direction and should be kept on rails. A mafia died D1 and left behind clear spew and clear wagonomics; we should play properly based on that. Don't let people in the POE cause chaos or try to open it up with tinfoil and shade-throwing on townie but framable slots like Mizery or MR before LyLo. Don't ever leave motel alive past D3 if you kill me.
Fine Im willing to let it go if you say soMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:19 pmI fancy that neither Jay or Nanook would say he's clearly out of the POE. A day 1 POE is just a glorified reads list. Today's POE we have actual information.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:18 pmDay 1Alison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:13 pm Nobody is clearing Axe. There are people who feel better about him and people who feel worse about him, but nobody seems eager to place him in the towncore, sugesting that he is POE. This is what I meant - the debate about how townie he's been has largely centered around whether he should be upper or lower POE, but nobody has seriously suggested that he should be cleared to the best of my knowledge.
Dunya, JJJ, Nanook
all had Axe not in their POE
To say otherwise is a lie.
Why's that make them townie? Both of them can believably switch to me EOD if they need to, and they can also stay off my wagon to avoid getting their hands dirty if they wish. (Applying more to Nanook than motel for the latter.)MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:23 pm The current wagon state is very interesting though.
Motel/Nanook not voting Alison here even though Alison is pushing Motel Room. This is a pretty decent look for Motel Room imo, and if Alison is town, also Nanook.
Tutuu voting Motel over TSP interests me slightly. @tutuu got words for this for me? Sorry if I am making you repeat yourself.
I think Motel Room if mafia is more likely to already have his vote on you unless the team is exactly you two. Motel Room isn't an obsessed thread camper that plans out things well ahead of time.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:25 pmWhy's that make them townie? Both of them can believably switch to me EOD if they need to, and they can also stay off my wagon to avoid getting their hands dirty if they wish. (Applying more to Nanook than motel for the latter.)MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:23 pm The current wagon state is very interesting though.
Motel/Nanook not voting Alison here even though Alison is pushing Motel Room. This is a pretty decent look for Motel Room imo, and if Alison is town, also Nanook.
Tutuu voting Motel over TSP interests me slightly. @tutuu got words for this for me? Sorry if I am making you repeat yourself.
hence the "unless it was ironic" so let's just say pogchamp and call it a tie
I think he is wolfier than TSP. I would be happy to vote TSP today as well.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:27 pm @Alison are you voting Motel Room simply because you think he is wolifer than TSP or is there something else to it that I missed?
Eh. I guess.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:26 pmI think Motel Room if mafia is more likely to already have his vote on you unless the team is exactly you two. Motel Room isn't an obsessed thread camper that plans out things well ahead of time.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:25 pmWhy's that make them townie? Both of them can believably switch to me EOD if they need to, and they can also stay off my wagon to avoid getting their hands dirty if they wish. (Applying more to Nanook than motel for the latter.)MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:23 pm The current wagon state is very interesting though.
Motel/Nanook not voting Alison here even though Alison is pushing Motel Room. This is a pretty decent look for Motel Room imo, and if Alison is town, also Nanook.
Tutuu voting Motel over TSP interests me slightly. @tutuu got words for this for me? Sorry if I am making you repeat yourself.
fun astrology app. Aparently I should "do" grecian urns. if anyone knows what that means in any context please let me know.
In popular slang, to "do" something means to have sex with it. So I guess you have your work cut out for you.Mizery wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:32 pmfun astrology app. Aparently I should "do" grecian urns. if anyone knows what that means in any context please let me know.
oh noAlison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:33 pmIn popular slang, to "do" something means to have sex with it. So I guess you have your work cut out for you.Mizery wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:32 pmfun astrology app. Aparently I should "do" grecian urns. if anyone knows what that means in any context please let me know.
I didn't think of this, but I would expect an occam's razor player to have deduced that.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:26 pmI think Motel Room if mafia is more likely to already have his vote on you unless the team is exactly you two. Motel Room isn't an obsessed thread camper that plans out things well ahead of time.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:25 pmWhy's that make them townie? Both of them can believably switch to me EOD if they need to, and they can also stay off my wagon to avoid getting their hands dirty if they wish. (Applying more to Nanook than motel for the latter.)MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:23 pm The current wagon state is very interesting though.
Motel/Nanook not voting Alison here even though Alison is pushing Motel Room. This is a pretty decent look for Motel Room imo, and if Alison is town, also Nanook.
Tutuu voting Motel over TSP interests me slightly. @tutuu got words for this for me? Sorry if I am making you repeat yourself.
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:08 am nook is playing the game. I guess.
Oh oh, also I’m not voting JJJ on D1. if he IS town, then he’s better left in than out. I see nook is voting there but dunno why
OH and if we can start looking at voting sequencing, which is what I feel more comfortable at, falcon has been sitting at the forefront of the trains all day. I feel like mafia was fine with this wagon. Seems too easy..
c'mon now ppl what are we actually doing here? This is the most obvious teammate spew I've ever seen?Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:31 amYep, I agreed with tutuu with my Poe at the time being lomo/dyson/falcon.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:13 amMy interpretation, and I'd imagine dunya's given her commentary, is that it was sarcasm (and I found that sarcasm suspicious). So you're saying then that you were then and remain now on board with voting out low posters. Correct? Just for the sake of total clarity.
As of now-
I’d still be down with dyson, because that slot is either super newby wolf or just an awkward town. If I had my fritters, they’d be the lynch today but that looks unlikely.
Falcon is not even most sus to me right now, hence me switching to dunya, but I can still see it.
hmMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:58 pmScotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:08 am nook is playing the game. I guess.
Oh oh, also I’m not voting JJJ on D1. if he IS town, then he’s better left in than out. I see nook is voting there but dunno why
OH and if we can start looking at voting sequencing, which is what I feel more comfortable at, falcon has been sitting at the forefront of the trains all day. I feel like mafia was fine with this wagon. Seems too easy..c'mon now ppl what are we actually doing here? This is the most obvious teammate spew I've ever seen?Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:31 amYep, I agreed with tutuu with my Poe at the time being lomo/dyson/falcon.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:13 amMy interpretation, and I'd imagine dunya's given her commentary, is that it was sarcasm (and I found that sarcasm suspicious). So you're saying then that you were then and remain now on board with voting out low posters. Correct? Just for the sake of total clarity.
As of now-
I’d still be down with dyson, because that slot is either super newby wolf or just an awkward town. If I had my fritters, they’d be the lynch today but that looks unlikely.
Falcon is not even most sus to me right now, hence me switching to dunya, but I can still see it.
wtf are you doing?