The Syndicate

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:I would. That's not very Epi-like.

I know he would use his abilities, but I get the impression he doesn't like lie detectors. Correct me if I'm wrong.

No he doesn't like people trying to break the game, which is what happens when there are forced ld statements. He believes in a more nuanced game than that I think.

Wasn't around for the Wilgy train, as usual I was working Friday evening. Crappy result, I can understand why it went down. I'm still not totally sure he wasn't faking the insanity though, seems likely that Silverwolf was the insanity maker... and didn't use her power the night she died? I dunno. I don't think it matters much anymore.

So Wilgy was the BTSC-checker, and left us three BTSC reads and two clean reads. Epi, sig, Nero as BTSC-havers, and Lorab and Scotty as non-BTSC. (I don't see the point of avoiding mentioning it at this point, night or day the baddies already have this info) It looks as though none of the three of them have Civvie BTSC with each other -- if anyone reads their interactions this game differently, let me know and I'm all ears, but I feel like they've been more likely to lynch each other than defend each other. I think the most likely scenario is one is Civ BTSC and two are bad BTSC? Maybe. All three are definitely on the radar come tomorrow though.

I was rereading what I've read in bits and pieces on my phone since last night, and knowing the Wilgy flip, this Nero post stood out:

Nerolunar wrote:

sig wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:Wilgy gunning out reads the moment he comes under suspicion.

Yes agreed one of which is me, who is an easy person to say is mafia and not big deal when I flip civ. Wanna vote for me with him?

I suspect you, but I suspect him even more. Fine with me. This Lorab vote aint going anywhere.

DrWilgy

He votes for Wilgy after Wilgy has identified Epi, sig, and Nero as his perceived baddie team lineup:

DrWilgy wrote:ACTUALLY!! this is it:

Epi, Sig, Nero!

Boom-bassa-boom!

DrWilgy wrote:...

My confirmations have been confirmed! Epi, Sig and Nero in that yorder!

You might say he was trying to get rid of Wilgy when he realized Wilgy had some sort of info role, and that was my thought for a second or two. Then I thought "would the baddies really jump to lynch Wilgy, identifying him as an info role? Wouldn't they prefer to kill him anonymously that night?"

I just thought it looked like a *reaction* to Wilgy's bad-list when Nero voted him. Of course, his question about Civ BTSC is incriminating in a way that dwarfs what I'm talking about anyway, so as Joey says, it'a a moo point.

Wish we still had DFaraday around.

Spacedaisy wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:I would. That's not very Epi-like.

I know he would use his abilities, but I get the impression he doesn't like lie detectors. Correct me if I'm wrong.

No he doesn't like people trying to break the game, which is what happens when there are forced ld statements. He believes in a more nuanced game than that I think.

Well not to come off as a jerk but when roles are made like that, you are going ot have players who will try to abuse it.

i mena i do agree in general about what your saying but devil advocate says that there will always be players who want to abuse a meancic to their own advantage

Long Con wrote: Wish we still had DFaraday around.

I believe that's the deadline.

So today should be easy peasy.

After reading through Wilgy's ISO...

sig

RIP Daisy

Oh, can't vote yet. Will wait for the poll.

Polo wrote:Can we dead people contribute to discussion or are we only allowed to discuss matters of the otherworld?

Dead players can only post off-topic. You cannot express game-related opinions of any sort.

now im curious why daisy was killed....

Matt wrote:So today should be easy peasy.

After reading through Wilgy's ISO...

sig

RIP Daisy

Easy, huh? What makes it easy?

Spacedaisy wrote:Now, of those who are in my top green, I'm most confident about Epi and Sig being civ.

Epignosis wrote:

Matt wrote:So today should be easy peasy.

After reading through Wilgy's ISO...

sig

RIP Daisy

Easy, huh? What makes it easy?

Spacedaisy wrote:Now, of those who are in my top green, I'm most confident about Epi and Sig being civ.

your point?

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Matt wrote:So today should be easy peasy.

After reading through Wilgy's ISO...

sig

RIP Daisy

Easy, huh? What makes it easy?

Spacedaisy wrote:Now, of those who are in my top green, I'm most confident about Epi and Sig being civ.

your point?

My point is there's no way in hell I'm lynching sig, and the people pushing it now have my eye.

I don't like Matt's vote. Right now I'm thinking Nero is mafia. I think Wilgy saw that Scotty/Lorab didn't have BTSC. I also dislike the thing Nero said about civs having BTSC. It seems like a mafia member asking a civ question, or implying they were a civ. Then his weird thing with me/Wilgy.

I would like to hear more about why Matt tried to tie up the vote at the last minute.

sig wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:Scotty is silenced and can´t defend himself.

Silencing is a civ power though.

Sig can you clarify your position on this? I never fully understood.

Sorsha wrote:Well I'm here... The Mafia gods sent someone to pound on my front door so I wouldn't miss the vote.

Wilgy is bad?

Your team?

Long Con wrote:Wasn't around for the Wilgy train, as usual I was working Friday evening. Crappy result, I can understand why it went down. I'm still not totally sure he wasn't faking the insanity though, seems likely that Silverwolf was the insanity maker... and didn't use her power the night she died? I dunno. I don't think it matters much anymore.

So Wilgy was the BTSC-checker, and left us three BTSC reads and two clean reads. Epi, sig, Nero as BTSC-havers, and Lorab and Scotty as non-BTSC. (I don't see the point of avoiding mentioning it at this point, night or day the baddies already have this info) It looks as though none of the three of them have Civvie BTSC with each other -- if anyone reads their interactions this game differently, let me know and I'm all ears, but I feel like they've been more likely to lynch each other than defend each other. I think the most likely scenario is one is Civ BTSC and two are bad BTSC? Maybe. All three are definitely on the radar come tomorrow though.

I was rereading what I've read in bits and pieces on my phone since last night, and knowing the Wilgy flip, this Nero post stood out:

Nerolunar wrote:

sig wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:Wilgy gunning out reads the moment he comes under suspicion.

Yes agreed one of which is me, who is an easy person to say is mafia and not big deal when I flip civ. Wanna vote for me with him?

I suspect you, but I suspect him even more. Fine with me. This Lorab vote aint going anywhere.

DrWilgy

He votes for Wilgy after Wilgy has identified Epi, sig, and Nero as his perceived baddie team lineup:

DrWilgy wrote:ACTUALLY!! this is it:

Epi, Sig, Nero!

Boom-bassa-boom!

DrWilgy wrote:...

My confirmations have been confirmed! Epi, Sig and Nero in that yorder!

You might say he was trying to get rid of Wilgy when he realized Wilgy had some sort of info role, and that was my thought for a second or two. Then I thought "would the baddies really jump to lynch Wilgy, identifying him as an info role? Wouldn't they prefer to kill him anonymously that night?"

I just thought it looked like a *reaction* to Wilgy's bad-list when Nero voted him. Of course, his question about Civ BTSC is incriminating in a way that dwarfs what I'm talking about anyway, so as Joey says, it'a a moo point.

Wish we still had DFaraday around.

Except that Wilgy could have only checked 3 names and presented 5.

Epignosis wrote:Easy, huh? What makes it easy?

Hrm...

Day Four

DrWilgy wrote:Hmm... Sig are you bad?

DrWilgy wrote:Do we wanna lynch Sig today?

DrWilgy wrote:

sig wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Do we wanna lynch Sig today?

Nah that sounds like a bad idea, why do you want to lynch Sig? He hasn't done anything scummy yet.

GOT EM

DrWilgy wrote:Im getting baddie vibrations from Sig.

I'll vote there.

DrWilgy wrote:

sig wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Im getting baddie vibrations from Sig.

I'll vote there.

Day 4 and only vibrations? Not a very good reason to vote.

Seems like a good reason to me. >snip<

Ha, that one made me chuckle.

DrWilgy wrote:Do your best with what I've given you my friends. Analyze this day thoroughly. It'll guide you.

Elohcin wrote:

Dr. Wilgy has been lynched. He was Isobel Crawley.
It is now Night 4. You have 23 hours to send in your Night Actions.

Elohcin wrote:Isobel loves to be in-the-know. She can search someone each night to find out if they have BTSC.

.............

Easy peasy.

Matt wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Easy, huh? What makes it easy?

Hrm...

Day Four

DrWilgy wrote:Hmm... Sig are you bad?

DrWilgy wrote:Do we wanna lynch Sig today?

DrWilgy wrote:

sig wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Do we wanna lynch Sig today?

Nah that sounds like a bad idea, why do you want to lynch Sig? He hasn't done anything scummy yet.

GOT EM

DrWilgy wrote:Im getting baddie vibrations from Sig.

I'll vote there.

DrWilgy wrote:

sig wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Im getting baddie vibrations from Sig.

I'll vote there.

Day 4 and only vibrations? Not a very good reason to vote.

Seems like a good reason to me. >snip<

Ha, that one made me chuckle.

DrWilgy wrote:Do your best with what I've given you my friends. Analyze this day thoroughly. It'll guide you.

Elohcin wrote:

Dr. Wilgy has been lynched. He was Isobel Crawley.
It is now Night 4. You have 23 hours to send in your Night Actions.

Elohcin wrote:Isobel loves to be in-the-know. She can search someone each night to find out if they have BTSC.

.............

Easy peasy.

Not one shred of that convinces me.

Yeah, m'bad, I left out the parts where he actually said the order of lynching should be you first...

But I'm down with a sig train.

Get on board ya all!!

Matt wrote:Yeah, m'bad, I left out the parts where he actually said the order of lynching should be you first...

But I'm down with a sig train.

Get on board ya all!!

You'll find a bit of difficulty lynching me first, I'm afraid.

Was spacedaisy a civilian, Matt?

Epignosis wrote:

Matt wrote:Yeah, m'bad, I left out the parts where he actually said the order of lynching should be you first...

But I'm down with a sig train.

Get on board ya all!!

You'll find a bit of difficulty lynching me first, I'm afraid.

Was spacedaisy a civilian, Matt?

I'm going to guess she was. However, I think others have talked about a deflection role in this game, not to mention there's an indy who can rez peeps, correct? It would be a daring move, but theoretically, the mafia could off one of their own in the hopes that the indy rezzes that person.

But I'm going to say, yes, I believe Daisy was a civilian. Why do you ask?

I'm going with Scotty again. A bit puzzled as to why the people who agreed with me yesterday have been shifting away from him.

Matt wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Matt wrote:Yeah, m'bad, I left out the parts where he actually said the order of lynching should be you first...

But I'm down with a sig train.

Get on board ya all!!

You'll find a bit of difficulty lynching me first, I'm afraid.

Was spacedaisy a civilian, Matt?

I'm going to guess she was. However, I think others have talked about a deflection role in this game, not to mention there's an indy who can rez peeps, correct? It would be a daring move, but theoretically, the mafia could off one of their own in the hopes that the indy rezzes that person.

But I'm going to say, yes, I believe Daisy was a civilian. Why do you ask?

To determine whether your obtuseness is deliberate or unfortunate.

thellama73 wrote:I'm going with Scotty again. A bit puzzled as to why the people who agreed with me yesterday have been shifting away from him.

I think it was Day 2 when Wilgy pretty much cleared Scotty, and in later posts down the line, you can see Wilgy continue to say things like "Don't lynch Scotty!"

Derp

Linki - Looking through the roles, there are 4 possible civ roles sig could have.

Epi, do you think sig and Daisy are the two civs who have tea with their btsc? Considering Daisy's "oopsy doopsy" private message to sig and all registered users, I could see this.

But here's a theory, haven't had a good one in awhile...

Daisy's bad. She and sig were on a team. Daisy mass e-mails all registered users accidentally. Team Bad Guys FREAK OUT. "WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO????" They decide, best thing, terminate Daisy so she looks good, therefore, siggy boy looks good.

BAM.

What do you think?

Matt wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I'm going with Scotty again. A bit puzzled as to why the people who agreed with me yesterday have been shifting away from him.

I think it was Day 2 when Wilgy pretty much cleared Scotty, and in later posts down the line, you can see Wilgy continue to say things like "Don't lynch Scotty!"

Derp

Linki - Looking through the roles, there are 4 possible civ roles sig could have.

Epi, do you think sig and Daisy are the two civs who have tea with their btsc? Considering Daisy's "oopsy doopsy" private message to sig and all registered users, I could see this.

But here's a theory, haven't had a good one in awhile...

Daisy's bad. She and sig were on a team. Daisy mass e-mails all registered users accidentally. Team Bad Guys FREAK OUT. "WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO????" They decide, best thing, terminate Daisy so she looks good, therefore, siggy boy looks good.

BAM.

What do you think?

She and sig are on a team...with whom? Do they just PM each other and leave out their third member? Come on Matt.

I'm voting Nerolunar. I advise people to do likewise.

Hrm...

You could be right on that.

This is tough

Matt wrote:Hrm...

You could be right on that.

This is tough

Easy-peasy, huh?

thellama73 wrote:I'm going with Scotty again. A bit puzzled as to why the people who agreed with me yesterday have been shifting away from him.

scottys town

sig wrote:I don't like Matt's vote. Right now I'm thinking Nero is mafia. I think Wilgy saw that Scotty/Lorab didn't have BTSC. I also dislike the thing Nero said about civs having BTSC. It seems like a mafia member asking a civ question, or implying they were a civ. Then his weird thing with me/Wilgy.

^^This.

thellama73 wrote:I'm going with Scotty again. A bit puzzled as to why the people who agreed with me yesterday have been shifting away from him.

Maybe we are shifting away from you?

Epignosis wrote:I'm voting Nerolunar. I advise people to do likewise.

Agreed.

Matt wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I'm going with Scotty again. A bit puzzled as to why the people who agreed with me yesterday have been shifting away from him.

I think it was Day 2 when Wilgy pretty much cleared Scotty, and in later posts down the line, you can see Wilgy continue to say things like "Don't lynch Scotty!"

Derp

Oh right. I'm voting for Epignosis then. I think he's playing a masterful game and playing us all for fools.

Except that I can't vote for Epi today. Derp.

thellama73 wrote:

Matt wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I'm going with Scotty again. A bit puzzled as to why the people who agreed with me yesterday have been shifting away from him.

I think it was Day 2 when Wilgy pretty much cleared Scotty, and in later posts down the line, you can see Wilgy continue to say things like "Don't lynch Scotty!"

Derp

Oh right. I'm voting for Epignosis then. I think he's playing a masterful game and playing us all for fools.

Good luck with that.

Why do you think that Llama?


Matt your idea is odd, I'm mafia with Daisy since we were Pming about OT stuff? Are you mafia trying to set me up?

I'm going to look into Ika and see what I can dig up, I've got a weird gut read on him.

Why do I have two votes already.

sig wrote:Why do I have two votes already.

Relax pal. One of the people voting you is bad, and the other isn't paying attention and could be bad too.

I voted Nerolunar. I obviously can't be trusted to leave decisions close to a deadline.

Epignosis wrote:

sig wrote:Why do I have two votes already.

Relax pal. One of the people voting you is bad, and the other isn't paying attention and could be bad too.

says the person who isnt voting either person

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

sig wrote:Why do I have two votes already.

Relax pal. One of the people voting you is bad, and the other isn't paying attention and could be bad too.

says the person who isnt voting either person

Does that matter?

Epignosis wrote:

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

sig wrote:Why do I have two votes already.

Relax pal. One of the people voting you is bad, and the other isn't paying attention and could be bad too.

says the person who isnt voting either person

Does that matter?

yes, if you think we are both scum you should have no quarells moving your vote over.

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

sig wrote:Why do I have two votes already.

Relax pal. One of the people voting you is bad, and the other isn't paying attention and could be bad too.

says the person who isnt voting either person

Does that matter?

yes, if you think we are both scum you should have no quarells moving your vote over.

Nah. Let's do Nerolunar first.

Epignosis wrote:

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

sig wrote:Why do I have two votes already.

Relax pal. One of the people voting you is bad, and the other isn't paying attention and could be bad too.

says the person who isnt voting either person

Does that matter?

yes, if you think we are both scum you should have no quarells moving your vote over.

Nah. Let's do Nerolunar first.

cool so you admit to not beilvieng what you say yourself

Would you prefer I lynch you first?

Epignosis wrote:Would you prefer I lynch you first?

sure. lynch me and i can sit here and laugh at you and the rest of the towns

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Would you prefer I lynch you first?

sure. lynch me and i can sit here and laugh at you and the rest of the towns

You really sit there and laugh when people lynch you? I don't laugh when people lynch me.

Epignosis wrote:

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Would you prefer I lynch you first?

sure. lynch me and i can sit here and laugh at you and the rest of the towns

You really sit there and laugh when people lynch you? I don't laugh when people lynch me.

yup, i have been turbo lynched, policy lynched, vig shot out of poilcy, kicked out of games.

so ya, i laugh at it all, i dont give a fuck about being lynched anymore and encourage it

(silver is goingt o give me hell for this too)

Well I'm interested in lynching Mafia, not sig. So you can get on board with that, or I'm going to get on board with lynching you.